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t+pazolite feat. Rizna - Distorted Lovesong [Osu|Taiko]
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Makyu wrote:
RLC wrote:
best mod post 2013
Hi, Makar summoned me.
Enourmous length combined with high density suggests HP-1, just to get it somewhat passable.
I really had problems reading it because of high BPM, it might be just me since I also can't really read anything + HR, but maybe use 1,3SV.
01:21:047 - this part seems really random to me, it feels very unintuitive because of the stop-and-go in both music and map, some suggestions to make it easier:
01:22:797 (134) - Big don, generally players tend to read pauses better if there's a big note just before.
01:24:297 (141,142) - This played weird because it doesn't follow your previous rhythm. Drag (141) 1/2 ealier and use a kat for (142) to match your previous pattern.
01:26:297 (155) - I think a big kat would fit nicely here.
01:27:672 (164,165,166,167,168) - dkdkd would represent the music better.
02:21:047 - this sudden drop in volume is irritating, if you want it so low, please reduce it step-by-step in the kdddkdddkdddk pattern before (Like -5% every note or something like that).
03:18:297 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90) - This is too hard, you already got high density and high BPM, no need to add finger-breaking streams.
04:07:047 - Why is here a break in Kiai?
04:59:047 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - As above, this is just murder. If you want to keep that many notes in the stream, use something much less complex.
05:19:047 - This part with bigs and triplets inbetween is really unpleasent to play. To keep the rising tension but also make it less painful to play, remove these three notes: 05:20:922 (20), 05:22:922 (40) and 05:24:922 (60).
05:26:172 - The gimmick-speedup is unnecessary, especially because it's already scrolling really fast.
05:33:047 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74) - As above.
05:44:047 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - ^
05:52:047 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - ^
06:51:422 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - ^
Taikocalypse DX
Enourmous length combined with high density suggests HP-1, just to get it somewhat passable.
I really had problems reading it because of high BPM, it might be just me since I also can't really read anything + HR, but maybe use 1,3SV.
01:21:047 - this part seems really random to me, it feels very unintuitive because of the stop-and-go in both music and map, some suggestions to make it easier:
01:22:797 (134) - Big don, generally players tend to read pauses better if there's a big note just before.
01:24:297 (141,142) - This played weird because it doesn't follow your previous rhythm. Drag (141) 1/2 ealier and use a kat for (142) to match your previous pattern.
01:26:297 (155) - I think a big kat would fit nicely here.
01:27:672 (164,165,166,167,168) - dkdkd would represent the music better.
02:21:047 - this sudden drop in volume is irritating, if you want it so low, please reduce it step-by-step in the kdddkdddkdddk pattern before (Like -5% every note or something like that).
03:18:297 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90) - This is too hard, you already got high density and high BPM, no need to add finger-breaking streams.
04:07:047 - Why is here a break in Kiai?
04:59:047 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - As above, this is just murder. If you want to keep that many notes in the stream, use something much less complex.
05:19:047 - This part with bigs and triplets inbetween is really unpleasent to play. To keep the rising tension but also make it less painful to play, remove these three notes: 05:20:922 (20), 05:22:922 (40) and 05:24:922 (60).
05:26:172 - The gimmick-speedup is unnecessary, especially because it's already scrolling really fast.
05:33:047 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74) - As above.
05:44:047 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - ^
05:52:047 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - ^
06:51:422 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - ^
[Love]
01:28:172 - i really feel like there should be a note here
01:35:047 (2) - NC here might be nice
02:07:422 (1) - this spinner dosen't go to any sound at all
02:47:797 (6) - no normal hitsound?
04:15:172 (1,1,1) - i really don't like how this triple spinner plays
05:07:547 (4) - NC
06:07:422 (3) - 06:07:422 (3) - whats with the normal whistles, is it intentional
06:51:047 (1) - slider end whistle dosen't sound very good
07:04:547 (3,4) - overall, 1/8 sliders sound the best here
This is really good, i hope you get this approved!
01:28:172 - i really feel like there should be a note here
01:35:047 (2) - NC here might be nice
02:07:422 (1) - this spinner dosen't go to any sound at all
02:47:797 (6) - no normal hitsound?
04:15:172 (1,1,1) - i really don't like how this triple spinner plays
05:07:547 (4) - NC
06:07:422 (3) - 06:07:422 (3) - whats with the normal whistles, is it intentional
06:51:047 (1) - slider end whistle dosen't sound very good
07:04:547 (3,4) - overall, 1/8 sliders sound the best here
This is really good, i hope you get this approved!
I absolutely love this map.
so i spent 30 minutes scratching my head trying to find stuff that felt weird, or sounded weird, or looked weird.
[Love]
04:49:047 (1,2,3) - spinners felt weird starting on red.
04:16:797 - End the first one here
04:17:047 - Start the second one here
04:18:797 - End second one here (or here 04:18:859 - ?)
04:19:047 - And of course start the third one here.
Nazi shit because I can't find anything else
04:32:547 (3,4,1) - nazi blanket
04:49:047 (1,2,3) - ^
idk
[Love]
04:49:047 (1,2,3) - spinners felt weird starting on red.
04:16:797 - End the first one here
04:17:047 - Start the second one here
04:18:797 - End second one here (or here 04:18:859 - ?)
04:19:047 - And of course start the third one here.
Nazi shit because I can't find anything else
04:32:547 (3,4,1) - nazi blanket
04:49:047 (1,2,3) - ^
idk
No changes will be applied to the taiko.
You have missed the entire point of it supposed to be difficult. The parts you even mention are not hard. This is supposed to be "the hard of the hard". Look at the standard map. It is similar to this.
The break in kiai where it slows down is something you have to play to feel. You can not just comment on it from editor. It has its purpose.
Sorry if you're mad at me for not wanting to change anything. The only thing i'd consider is the shit like X xxx X xxx X since I agree it's difficult, but according to some, that is one of their favorite types of things to play. I'd like to leave it in if only for fitting so well.
The speed-up gimmick is something special to me. I used it in the old Distorted Lovesong I mapped a long time ago and it was the coolest part to me (of course way faster, like going up to 10k bpm), so it only makes sense to keep it.
Thank you for the mod, you do deserve kudosu, even though I won't change anything.
You have missed the entire point of it supposed to be difficult. The parts you even mention are not hard. This is supposed to be "the hard of the hard". Look at the standard map. It is similar to this.
The break in kiai where it slows down is something you have to play to feel. You can not just comment on it from editor. It has its purpose.
Sorry if you're mad at me for not wanting to change anything. The only thing i'd consider is the shit like X xxx X xxx X since I agree it's difficult, but according to some, that is one of their favorite types of things to play. I'd like to leave it in if only for fitting so well.
The speed-up gimmick is something special to me. I used it in the old Distorted Lovesong I mapped a long time ago and it was the coolest part to me (of course way faster, like going up to 10k bpm), so it only makes sense to keep it.
Thank you for the mod, you do deserve kudosu, even though I won't change anything.
Topic Starter
ktgster wrote:
[Love]
01:28:172 - i really feel like there should be a note here the beat stops suddenly, hence the gap
01:35:047 (2) - NC here might be nice i guess that helps tell that it's the start of a measure
02:07:422 (1) - this spinner dosen't go to any sound at all fade effect in music
02:47:797 (6) - no normal hitsound? good catch
04:15:172 (1,1,1) - i really don't like how this triple spinner plays sux 4 u hue hue hue hue i think i'll keep it >_>
05:07:547 (4) - NC eh, not necessary imo
06:07:422 (3) - 06:07:422 (3) - whats with the normal whistles, is it intentional yea
06:51:047 (1) - slider end whistle dosen't sound very good i want the slider body whistle... but i guess the end is a little too sharp? reduced volume of end
07:04:547 (3,4) - overall, 1/8 sliders sound the best here i want a slowing effect
This is really good, i hope you get this approved! i do too /runs
thanks :3Lach wrote:
so i spent 30 minutes scratching my head trying to find stuff that felt weird, or sounded weird, or looked weird.
[Love]
04:49:047 (1,2,3) - spinners felt weird starting on red. failed copypaste huehue
04:16:797 - End the first one here
04:17:047 - Start the second one here
04:18:797 - End second one here (or here 04:18:859 - ?)
04:19:047 - And of course start the third one here.
sounds worse, but i guess it looks better? changed hitsounding of spinners appropriately... dunno
Nazi shit because I can't find anything else
04:32:547 (3,4,1) - nazi blanket fixed
04:49:047 (1,2,3) - ^ fixed a little... it's more important to me that 04:49:047 (1,3) - these ends are perfectly stacked
idk
Why should I be mad? Was all just suggestions and if you have your reasons to keep stuff, keep it. I played the Diff and those streams pointed out were some I didn't manage to get or I barely got them, more luck than knowledge, I just prefer maps to still be somewhat enjoyable without my fingers hurting.Backfire wrote:
No changes will be applied to the taiko.
You have missed the entire point of it supposed to be difficult. The parts you even mention are not hard. This is supposed to be "the hard of the hard". Look at the standard map. It is similar to this.
The break in kiai where it slows down is something you have to play to feel. You can not just comment on it from editor. It has its purpose.
Sorry if you're mad at me for not wanting to change anything. The only thing i'd consider is the shit like X xxx X xxx X since I agree it's difficult, but according to some, that is one of their favorite types of things to play. I'd like to leave it in if only for fitting so well.
The speed-up gimmick is something special to me. I used it in the old Distorted Lovesong I mapped a long time ago and it was the coolest part to me (of course way faster, like going up to 10k bpm), so it only makes sense to keep it.
Thank you for the mod, you do deserve kudosu, even though I won't change anything.
Seriously koka. 1.3 SV. grow up a bit, HR is supposed to be a difficulty increase, not a reference for SV.
I didn't tink you got me right. I said that it was hard to read for me on the regular 1,4SV, because I suck at playing HR (probably), your statement has nothing to do with what I wanted to say._Gezo_ wrote:
Seriously koka. 1.3 SV. grow up a bit, HR is supposed to be a difficulty increase, not a reference for SV.
Anyhow, Backfire already declined that, so why do you need to still comment on it? Should I go over your mods and yell at you for talking stupid stuff aswell?
Don't play HR if you don't think you'll make it brah, if you can't make it, don't suggest SV changes (unless the BPM is very high, 260+ and bam you better not leave 1.4)
(also I lacked sleep when I said that, I was like szldkfha + sick = rage so well take distance sometimes orz)
(also I lacked sleep when I said that, I was like szldkfha + sick = rage so well take distance sometimes orz)
Sorry for telling you to mod this at 4:00 am XD_Gezo_ wrote:
(also I lacked sleep when I said that, I was like szldkfha + sick = rage so well take distance sometimes orz)
Did a recheck via IRC. Changed a timing point in the taiko (for readability), unstacked a few notes for flow, and a minor adjustment to density for the section at 05:11:047
Okay let's try this again:
Bubbled #1
IRC Log
21:18 *Makar is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/245124 t+pazolite - Distorted Lovesong [Taikocalypse DX]]
21:18 RLC: hi
21:18 Makar: 04:23:047 - move this timing point to 04:22:297 (seems like mistake)
21:19 Makar: 1/2 finishes on that slow down is too bunched up and weird derp
21:19 RLC: ok
21:23 Makar: yay done with taiko finally
21:23 Makar: time to look at standard
21:24 RLC: yay
21:36 Makar: 05:05:047 (1,2,3,4) -
21:36 Makar: these pauses
21:36 Makar: are really annoying
21:36 Makar: :c
21:36 Makar: kinda breaks the flow imo... maybe unstack the circles?
21:36 RLC: hm
21:37 RLC: 01:33:047 (1,2,3,4,5) - i did the same thing here
21:37 RLC: it seemed to play fine from what i could tell
21:37 RLC: i'll try unstacking
21:37 RLC: the ones you mentioned
21:37 RLC: and see how it plays
21:37 RLC: sec
21:38 Makar: the ones at 01:33:047 (1,2,3,4,5) -
21:38 Makar: it is a bit different because there is very little mouse movement in the first palce in this section
21:38 Makar: 01:31:547 (1,2,3,4) - these repeat sliders basically serve as a place for the player to rest their mouse
21:38 RLC: true
21:38 Makar: and 1:33 isn't much different
21:39 Makar: while at the one I pointed out there is constant mouse movment blahblah
21:40 RLC: alright; i unstacked 'em
21:41 Makar: 05:20:047 (1,2,3) - this triple just doesn't feel right to me (really unfitting in the music)
21:42 Makar: same with the one at 05:22:047 (1,2,3) -
21:42 Makar: I really like what you did before these though (using long sliders)
21:42 Makar: but if you want to avoid repeatativeness maybe at least make it 1/2 isntead of 1/4?
21:43 RLC: yeah, i wanted the density to increase there
21:43 RLC: but i suppose the triples starting on white ticks are kinda weird
21:43 RLC: ok i'll make it 1/2
21:45 Makar: kk update
21:45 RLC: sec
21:46 RLC: i'm trying to figure out how to change the placement so that it still flows
21:46 Makar: kk
21:49 RLC: kk updated
21:49 RLC: WAIT
21:49 RLC: NO
21:49 Makar: k
21:49 RLC: don't do anything yet
21:49 RLC: i just realized
21:50 RLC: that by changing the 1/4 to 1/2 i disturbed my very very important 777 circles / 777 sliders balance LOL
21:50 RLC: brb
21:50 Makar: loooooooooool
21:50 Makar: ok
21:52 Makar: it would be perfect if you had 7 spinners
21:52 Makar: but idk how that would work
21:52 Makar:
21:52 RLC: i did have 7 spinners at one point, but then i realized that there was a spinner i really should add
21:52 RLC: so i did
21:52 Makar: ah
21:53 RLC: ok, updated
21:54 Makar: in taiko
21:55 Makar: 04:07:047 - kiai flash isnt rankable so remove this point
21:55 RLC: should i just
21:55 RLC: change that point to kiai also
21:55 RLC: because there's a slowdown
21:55 RLC: there
21:55 Makar: oh right yeah
21:56 RLC: ok
21:56 RLC: should i update
21:56 Makar: yes
21:56 Makar: dats all
21:18 RLC: hi
21:18 Makar: 04:23:047 - move this timing point to 04:22:297 (seems like mistake)
21:19 Makar: 1/2 finishes on that slow down is too bunched up and weird derp
21:19 RLC: ok
21:23 Makar: yay done with taiko finally
21:23 Makar: time to look at standard
21:24 RLC: yay
21:36 Makar: 05:05:047 (1,2,3,4) -
21:36 Makar: these pauses
21:36 Makar: are really annoying
21:36 Makar: :c
21:36 Makar: kinda breaks the flow imo... maybe unstack the circles?
21:36 RLC: hm
21:37 RLC: 01:33:047 (1,2,3,4,5) - i did the same thing here
21:37 RLC: it seemed to play fine from what i could tell
21:37 RLC: i'll try unstacking
21:37 RLC: the ones you mentioned
21:37 RLC: and see how it plays
21:37 RLC: sec
21:38 Makar: the ones at 01:33:047 (1,2,3,4,5) -
21:38 Makar: it is a bit different because there is very little mouse movement in the first palce in this section
21:38 Makar: 01:31:547 (1,2,3,4) - these repeat sliders basically serve as a place for the player to rest their mouse
21:38 RLC: true
21:38 Makar: and 1:33 isn't much different
21:39 Makar: while at the one I pointed out there is constant mouse movment blahblah
21:40 RLC: alright; i unstacked 'em
21:41 Makar: 05:20:047 (1,2,3) - this triple just doesn't feel right to me (really unfitting in the music)
21:42 Makar: same with the one at 05:22:047 (1,2,3) -
21:42 Makar: I really like what you did before these though (using long sliders)
21:42 Makar: but if you want to avoid repeatativeness maybe at least make it 1/2 isntead of 1/4?
21:43 RLC: yeah, i wanted the density to increase there
21:43 RLC: but i suppose the triples starting on white ticks are kinda weird
21:43 RLC: ok i'll make it 1/2
21:45 Makar: kk update
21:45 RLC: sec
21:46 RLC: i'm trying to figure out how to change the placement so that it still flows
21:46 Makar: kk
21:49 RLC: kk updated
21:49 RLC: WAIT
21:49 RLC: NO
21:49 Makar: k
21:49 RLC: don't do anything yet
21:49 RLC: i just realized
21:50 RLC: that by changing the 1/4 to 1/2 i disturbed my very very important 777 circles / 777 sliders balance LOL
21:50 RLC: brb
21:50 Makar: loooooooooool
21:50 Makar: ok
21:52 Makar: it would be perfect if you had 7 spinners
21:52 Makar: but idk how that would work
21:52 Makar:
21:52 RLC: i did have 7 spinners at one point, but then i realized that there was a spinner i really should add
21:52 RLC: so i did
21:52 Makar: ah
21:53 RLC: ok, updated
21:54 Makar: in taiko
21:55 Makar: 04:07:047 - kiai flash isnt rankable so remove this point
21:55 RLC: should i just
21:55 RLC: change that point to kiai also
21:55 RLC: because there's a slowdown
21:55 RLC: there
21:55 Makar: oh right yeah
21:56 RLC: ok
21:56 RLC: should i update
21:56 Makar: yes
21:56 Makar: dats all
Okay let's try this again:
Bubbled #1
Topic Starter
thanks~
no actually the post towards koka was at 8am after lacking sleep in class, see the hellkazukisinx wrote:
Sorry for telling you to mod this at 4:00 am XD_Gezo_ wrote:
(also I lacked sleep when I said that, I was like szldkfha + sick = rage so well take distance sometimes orz)
the mod was done at my own discretion in vacation
04:47:047 - The rhythm in this part is totally off.
04:47:380 (3) - This slider should start at 04:47:390 - 1/8.
04:47:630 (4) - This slider should start at 04:47:640 - and end at 04:47:734 - 1/8.
Why? Because the music consists here of three triples. Each of them is "white-yellow-blue" (as you did with first slider), the distance between them is 1/4.
Additionally, there is no sounds at the start of this slider: 04:48:630 (4) -
The guitar (or what that is) starts at completely different ticks. The things I can hear:
Also 04:52:713 (3) - 04:53:047 (1,2) - these should be redone too.
First object on the screenshot is 04:52:422 -
Edit: started to checking more,
04:59:630 (4,5) - Delete these notes and add a note at 04:59:672 - . Your rhythm is again wrong here.
04:47:380 (3) - This slider should start at 04:47:390 - 1/8.
04:47:630 (4) - This slider should start at 04:47:640 - and end at 04:47:734 - 1/8.
Why? Because the music consists here of three triples. Each of them is "white-yellow-blue" (as you did with first slider), the distance between them is 1/4.
Additionally, there is no sounds at the start of this slider: 04:48:630 (4) -
The guitar (or what that is) starts at completely different ticks. The things I can hear:
Also 04:52:713 (3) - 04:53:047 (1,2) - these should be redone too.
First object on the screenshot is 04:52:422 -
Edit: started to checking more,
04:59:630 (4,5) - Delete these notes and add a note at 04:59:672 - . Your rhythm is again wrong here.
Topic Starter
all fixed
Rebubbled!
Side note incase people complain:
AIMod says there is an image in the song folder that is not used, but in the storyboard script there is an animation line which starts at name_0000, which means it uses name_00000, name_00001, name_00002, etc. so this is a bug in AIMod
Side note incase people complain:
AIMod says there is an image in the song folder that is not used, but in the storyboard script there is an animation line which starts at name_0000, which means it uses name_00000, name_00001, name_00002, etc. so this is a bug in AIMod
was going to wait until this was at bubble #2 but lo and behold, something caught my eye. all the extra timing sections near the start are un-needed. all the timing sections you need are the following:
01:27:047 - 7/4 time signature
01:31:547 - this one is most likely 3/4 (heavy beat lands on 01:33:047)
01:33:047 - 4/4
i know the first one is definitely correct, but the other two are debatable. it'd be nice if someone could see if i'm correct or improve my timing if it is incorrect. have to pop this for now and will do a full mod later and then it'll get bubble #2 probably and everything will be fine. sorry ;(
01:27:047 - 7/4 time signature
01:31:547 - this one is most likely 3/4 (heavy beat lands on 01:33:047)
01:33:047 - 4/4
i know the first one is definitely correct, but the other two are debatable. it'd be nice if someone could see if i'm correct or improve my timing if it is incorrect. have to pop this for now and will do a full mod later and then it'll get bubble #2 probably and everything will be fine. sorry ;(
why can't everybody just agree on a timing already qq
wtb timing and music theory experts
wtb timing and music theory experts
yes, except it starts at 01:21:047 - (did you copy the wrong time?)Jacob wrote:
01:27:047 - 7/4 time signature
Put the 4/4 at 01:34:047 instead. 01:33:047 (1,2,3,4,5) is structured exactly the same as the previous section (which is set to 3/4) so there's no reason it should be changing there.Jacob wrote:
01:31:547 - this one is most likely 3/4 (heavy beat lands on 01:33:047)
01:33:047 - 4/4
so basically:
01:21:047 - 7/4
01:31:547 - 3/4
01:34:047 - 4/4
Topic Starter
This is the reason for the additional uninherited timing sections--at least in the taiko. I changed the standard diff too, for the sake of consistency.tetsutaro wrote:
01:21:047 ~ 01:31:547 - To me there is a sudden decrease in density of bar lines with you using 7/4. I would suggest implementing alternating 4/4 and 3/4 stanzas (Making it like bar line --> 4 beats --> bar line --> 3 beats --> bar line --> 4 beats...).
Similar structures to deal with abnormal bar length has been seen in authentic maps such as Soul Calibur III New Legend and GERMINATION.
Not sure how to proceed. Are different redlines allowed in taiko and standard? Or should I keep both as is... or change both back to the original 7/4 design (as in Jacob and Lyby's posts)?
halp plz ;; eye'm confuzd
change both back to 7/4
Topic Starter
>_>
done.
done.
How many unbubbles.
How many unbubbles.
How many unbubbles.
[Taikocalypse DX]
06:34:843 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2) - please delete this section. it's awkward to play and the timing for this section (or lack therof) is incorrect. each circle practically needs its own individual timing section to be spot on.
[Love]
02:48:047 (1,1,1) - in my opinion, this anti-jump is really difficulty to sightread and play properly due to the very fast ongoing pace of the map at that point in the song. a good solution would be to place a slider at 02:48:047 that repeats at 02:48:297. it would also be neat to place the reverse of the slider on the end of (1) in the next combo, like this ((7) is the repeat slider, you just can't see the repeat).
06:48:422 (1) - you should never ever map to a vocal part that isn't actually part of the main beat. this isn't timed correctly either (or does it even have a correct timing)? yeah, you should probably remove this.
this should be good for bubble #2 since the uninherited timing section changes didn't require the resnapping of any notes.
06:34:843 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2) - please delete this section. it's awkward to play and the timing for this section (or lack therof) is incorrect. each circle practically needs its own individual timing section to be spot on.
[Love]
02:48:047 (1,1,1) - in my opinion, this anti-jump is really difficulty to sightread and play properly due to the very fast ongoing pace of the map at that point in the song. a good solution would be to place a slider at 02:48:047 that repeats at 02:48:297. it would also be neat to place the reverse of the slider on the end of (1) in the next combo, like this ((7) is the repeat slider, you just can't see the repeat).
06:48:422 (1) - you should never ever map to a vocal part that isn't actually part of the main beat. this isn't timed correctly either (or does it even have a correct timing)? yeah, you should probably remove this.
this should be good for bubble #2 since the uninherited timing section changes didn't require the resnapping of any notes.
hahaha no.
Topic Starter
thank you!Jacob wrote:
[Taikocalypse DX]
06:34:843 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2) - please delete this section. it's awkward to play and the timing for this section (or lack therof) is incorrect. each circle practically needs its own individual timing section to be spot on. this was discussed extensively with some other BATs--the timing is accurate down to 1/16 (thank you charles), and the low OD makes this relatively easy to get 300s on. Most testers have not had problems with this section at all. also, removing it just makes that break REALLY long and boring--in the standard diff, there's at least an SB to keep the player/viewer's interest, but the taiko would just have a long minute of nothingness ;;
[Love]
02:48:047 (1,1,1) - in my opinion, this anti-jump is really difficulty to sightread and play properly due to the very fast ongoing pace of the map at that point in the song. a good solution would be to place a slider at 02:48:047 that repeats at 02:48:297. it would also be neat to place the reverse of the slider on the end of (1) in the next combo, like this ((7) is the repeat slider, you just can't see the repeat). the problem with sliders is that they give more "connected" flow and I wanted disconnected flow there. The weird 1/4 effect in the background fades away at 02:48:047 - and suddenly comes back at 02:48:547 - , so I wanted to emphasize that. Anyway, I spread out the notes across the screen. (surprisingly enough, no one i watched test the map misread the antijumps--even on first play--but I suppose they are a bit too risky.)
06:48:422 (1) - you should never ever map to a vocal part that isn't actually part of the main beat. this isn't timed correctly either (or does it even have a correct timing)? yeah, you should probably remove this. yeah this is pretty weird--removed.
this should be good for bubble #2 since the uninherited timing section changes didn't require the resnapping of any notes.
Hello.Makar wrote:
music theory experts
This is a fair way to aid Taiko gameplay since 7/4 measures are really long. In theory, 7/4 measures are simply made up of a combination of 2/4, 3/4, and 4/4 groupings, and this song happens to use a 4/4 to 3/4 as a 7/4 measure. Both would be considered fine if you consider Taiko playability, and this is one of the cases where I would allow a red line inconsistency across all diffs.RLC wrote:
This is the reason for the additional uninherited timing sections--at least in the taiko. I changed the standard diff too, for the sake of consistency.
01:33:047 - 4/4 should go here instead of 01:34:047 - . For the reason Lybydose provided above, what that's trying to accomplish is making the time signature fit the map, when it should be the other way around. It is very clear that 01:33:047 - is a single 4/4 measure and not a 3/4 measure with an extra beat.Lybydose wrote:
01:33:047 (1,2,3,4,5) is structured exactly the same as the previous section [...]
Would also include a 4/4 at 01:35:047 - for the sake of restarting stanza count. Good practice, even though you can only dream of playing this at 1.5x rate.
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fixed 4/4 switch as stated by those
didn't change taiko back to 4/4 and 3/4 combination though, since the inconsistency between diffs seems to be too controversial, w/e.
didn't add extra 4/4 line because as far as I can tell, that wouldn't really do anything, osu!-wise? correct me if i'm wrong.
didn't change taiko back to 4/4 and 3/4 combination though, since the inconsistency between diffs seems to be too controversial, w/e.
didn't add extra 4/4 line because as far as I can tell, that wouldn't really do anything, osu!-wise? correct me if i'm wrong.
I so want to give a flame to this map ;w;
butyouguysareconfusingmewiththetiming
butyouguysareconfusingmewiththetiming
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the previous posts were all dealing with the time signature changes; as it is right now, all of the time signatures are correctGabe wrote:
I so want to give a flame to this map ;w;
butyouguysareconfusingmewiththetiming
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calm down, gabe and I are working on it ok
81047,250,4,1,1,60,1,0 - make it 7/4
82047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
82797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
83797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
84547,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
85547,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
86297,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
87297,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
88047,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
89047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
89797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0 - remove those
90797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0 - move to 91547
do the same as taiko
82047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
82797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
83797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
84547,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
85547,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
86297,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
87297,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
88047,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
89047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
89797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0 - remove those
90797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0 - move to 91547
do the same as taiko
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pretty sure timing has already been changed?