yurunneram wrote:

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Okay~ Lets go! >w<

General
Good thing that you did a story board. But if you can try making it move a bit and start at diff locations for the starting part or ppl will want to skip it. And nice colours~ I'm considering about it

Normal
00:44:871 (3) - Why don't you make it like 00:41:061 (5) (like in terms of how long it lasts and when it repeats) cuz rhythm wise it'll sound pretty good It wouldnt be suitable for the vocal or music.
01:10:585 (3) - make it like 01:08:680 (3) (again for da rhythm) As above, no change
02:00:585 (1,2,3) - Make it in a straight line maybe? If so the ①circle would be too far from centre...and may change many placings of following notes.. so no change

It was mapped very well. I thank you for not letting this be crap ^^

Omoi
00:44:395 (6) - Flip it vertically? seems unnecessary and current placing better

Not much. I enjoyed playing this one a lot Great job! Good luck for the mod!

You have been modded out by Yurun Neram

Frans Niko wrote:

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from my queue

General
Looks good

Normal
uhm
01:04:871 - New Combo for suggestion seems unnecessary
01:53:442 - can't get the rythme with 1/4 please change the slider fixed
02:13:918 - New combo (but same colour with the next note) to follow the vocal so no change

Omoi~
01:04:971 - New Combo (but same colour with the next note) seems unnecessary

omg all looks good

don't kudosu if this mod not help

KaNe[YYK]YoMe wrote:

稍微再提一点想法。

Normal

1. 00:46:776 （2）往上移动一格 没必要
2. 01:22:014 （2）听起来有点奇怪。是不是跟后面的slider交换一下，再改一下位置？ 原来的也无不妥，改后也没多大差别……所以没动
3. 02:07:728（2）向上移动一格
4. 02:09:156 （4）往上移动到（132，120）一到两格？保持距离一致 这边几个重新调整了下

Omoi

1. 副歌部分同样的排列whistle的位置加的很随意。是故意这样的吗？ 嘛……说随意的确有点，当初的想法主要是1/4的节奏要加，然后一些比较重的vocal会跟着加一点。
2. 00:49:395 和01:57:966 用1/2速度的长slide代替spin感觉更贴切一点？ 看起来没什么必要

KaNe[YYK]YoMe wrote:

另外normal里面单点的距离在1.01- 0.98之间浮动。不过应该算不上什么大问题吧？

qkenan wrote:

KaNe[YYK]YoMe wrote:

稍微再提一点想法。

Omoi

1. 副歌部分同样的排列whistle的位置加的很随意。是故意这样的吗？ 嘛……说随意的确有点，当初的想法主要是1/4的节奏要加，然后一些比较重的vocal会跟着加一点。
2. 00:49:395 和01:57:966 用1/2速度的长slide代替spin感觉更贴切一点？ 看起来没什么必要

- t e n n y a - wrote:

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Same song www

Anyway I'll do m4m at your queue c:

[General]

1. There's a lot unused transparency at your Lyrics picture and it's unrankable, please crop them u.u

[Normal]

1. 00:31:061 (1,2)- : I do suggest to make this slider straightly curved. like move last (1) slider point 2 grid up and last (2) slider point 2 grid up would nice. fixed
2. 00:36:776 (1)- : Too fast for Normal diff >u<. at least there's 1 beat range between a spinner with new note on Normal diff :O I suggest to shorten the Spinner or Remove the Circle at here seems not so difficult ? kept for now
3. 00:57:252 (1)- : add finish on slider head? fixed
4. 01:29:156 (3)- : add finish on slider tail? unnecessary
5. 02:00:585 (1)- : Same as 00:36:776- as above
6. 02:05:823 (1)- : rather than Whistle, I suggest to add Finish here fixed
7. 02:15:347 (2)- : add finish on slider head? fixed
8. 02:22:966 (3)- : ^ fixed
9. 02:28:680 (2)- : ^ fixed
10. 02:38:204 (5)- : ^ fixed

[Omoi]

1. 00:41:061 (3)- : Whistle on slider reverse, remove clap at there >< not fit imo when I changed the ryhthm I just forgot the hit sound ><
2. 01:35:109 (4)- : add finish on slider tail? fixed

That's all I can find, good luck! Nice song and map c:

mercury2004 wrote:

mod

M4M

Color Guide
Red : Change it please
Purple : Highly recommended
Orange : Suggestion

General
In the lyric SB part. Crop the unused transparency part.
Strange that i could see this bookmark flap out. fixed

Normal
00:22:966 (1) - sounds better if you mute this note
00:28:204 (3) - missing head whistle? fixed
00:41:061 (5) - form perfect triangle? like this?[/color] fixed

SPOILER

00:59:156 (1,2,3,4) - change it to the otherside? In newbie eye they would see 300s instead of hit notes changed the placings of a few notes
01:06:299 (4) - finish/whistle tail?
01:18:680 - add note? unnecessary, no change
01:29:156 (3) - finish tail? ^
02:18:204 (2,3,4) - form perfect triangle? fixed
02:28:680 (2) - add finish/whistle?
02:38:204 (5) - add finish/whistle?[/color] these two done


Omoi
00:22:966 (1) - delete NC here and NC here 00:23:442 (2) - ?
00:28:204 (5) - This note kinda against the flow reverse it not so bad
00:32:490 (1,2,3) - jump kinda too big for slow pace song reduce to 1.8x
00:54:871 (1) - NC? fixed
01:06:537 (5,6,1) - move it closer to 01:07:252 (2) - ?[/color] fixed
01:18:085 (6,1) - a little bit confusing removed
02:20:823 (7) - move it to x204 y 328?
02:21:776 (3,4,5) - reverse this selection?[/color] no change
02:30:585 (6,7,1,2) - a bit confusing this ryhthm sounds better, kept for now
02:40:109 (1) - NC here? and del NC here? 02:40:823 (1) - fixed
Kudo or no kudo your choice.

Zhengster wrote:

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M4M
newbie modder alert !

[Normal]

00:48:100 - Add note to fit the vocals?
00:49:633 - Vocals start at 00:49:395, so move the slider there and end at the original time
01:01:061 - Vocals start at 01:00:823, so move the slider there and end at the original time
01:11:537 (4) - have the slider repeat twice
01:57:966 - Vocals start at 01:57:966, so move the slider there and end at the original time
02:14:395 (1) - have the slider repeat twice
02:24:871 (2) - ^
Sorry but considering that it's Normal so all rejected due to difficulty
All these are suggestions ><

Zero__wind wrote:

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你好，我来干嘛的 你好，我来干嘛的

General
02:42:014 (1) - 建议30%音量normal finish 减低了音量，不过还是soft finish适合一些

Normal
HP+1
00:30:109 (4) - 弄得这么行为艺术还不包一下 http://puu.sh/2dt4F fixed
00:56:299 (3,1,2) - 没包好吧 感觉差不多……
00:59:156 (1) - 弄到正下方吧 这样可以保持和00:57:252 (1,2) - 相同的结构 你只需要把后面的1234一起逆时针转一点角度然后挪一挪就好 感觉差不多……
01:15:823 (3) - （151,209）【E和N里面最好不要违背DS+-0.03 fixed
01:17:014 (2) - （202,332） fixed
01:31:537 (1,2) - 倾向于拽着它俩一起挪到（396,328） fixed
01:44:871 (1) - 音量30%吧 +5%
01:53:442 (2,3,4) - j加whistle？【(4)的头】:arrow: fixed
02:15:347 (2) - 闹哪样 fixed
02:23:918 (1) - 包前一个滑条的跟随圈吧 还有就是和后面的那个note隔得略远了一点点 没动
02:26:776 (4) - spacing 好好好
02:35:347 (1) - ^ 好好好

Hard
00:57:966 (3) - http://puu.sh/2dtj1 上去了一点
00:58:918 (5) - 无理大间距 感觉没什么，整体右边移了一点
01:04:395 (4,5) - CTRL+G fixed
01:27:728 (1,2,3,4,1) - 等距 fixed
01:32:490 (4,5,6) - 这样半迁半就的真的好看么0.0 建议这样 http://puu.sh/2dtsZ no no no
01:47:609 (2) - 拉开点儿包跟随圈吧 就算不拉远弧度也要差不多是那么回事儿啊 no no no
01:51:418 (2) - ^ no no no
02:05:347 (3) - 加whistle fixed
02:22:014 (4,5) - CTRL+G 虽然我自己觉得不是很顺……但是你是第二个提了我就改掉吧
02:25:823 (3,4,5) - 随便弄了个形状转角度还不如都包跟随圈 个人感觉 我就喜欢这样w
02:42:014 (1) - 咋不先note再spinner了 当然 这个随意

差不多这样，嗯

Zweib wrote:

加油喔www
star

对modder的建议也不必给太高的采纳率、因为有些mod也许可能比较敷衍wwww。mod带来的提升毕竟有限，主要还是本身的质量要有——比如音效是否有下错，图形是否摆歪了一小格，blanket有没做整齐。所谓怎样摆好看些、换什么节奏更好些其实都无关紧要，不要听太多建议把原来挺好的图改得面目全非。现在看hard感觉很好(移动路径、spacing对我胃口233)，normal感觉就差一些（这还是要以好看为主）。修改pattern的时候注意下整体感和前后consistency

以上只是想起以前做图和mod时候的一点感想，没有针对www

1. 00:23:918 (3,1) - 大面積遮蓋。。不好看。

1. 01:18:323 (1) - 。。。。這個真坑。。試試在01:18:204 - 放個1/4slider。。。現在這樣有點。orz
   
   1. 或者01:17:728 - 這裡放一個note。。。然後把這個位置的slider往後移1/2。。。orz
2. 00:23:442 (1) - 試試放的稍微平一點。。。0。0好看>_>。。你後面的擺的都蠻平的。。。

Athena Tennos wrote:

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[N]

1. 00:23:918 (3,1) - 大面積遮蓋。。不好看。:arrow: 我觉得还成

[OMI]

1. 01:18:323 (1) - 。。。。這個真坑。。試試在01:18:204 - 放個1/4slider。。。現在這樣有點。orz
   
   1. 或者01:17:728 - 這裡放一個note。。。然後把這個位置的slider往後移1/2。。。orz 现在这样最贴合vocal，而且只不过是有个提前的1/4而已，不能算啥很难的梗吧？so no change
2. 00:23:442 (1) - 試試放的稍微平一點。。。0。0好看>_>。。你後面的擺的都蠻平的。。。fixed

感覺可以再去做一個I。。。更有趣點=w=~
我意已决，专著Hard不动摇_(:з」∠)_
☆~

qkenan wrote:

Athena Tennos wrote:

感覺可以再去做一個I。。。更有趣點=w=~
我意已决，专著Hard不动摇_(:з」∠)_

1. Fine.

• OD+1
  
  01:18:918 (3,4,5,6) - 咱感觉这样打起来感觉不错
  
  
  02:20:585 (6,7,1) - flow不好，建议7往上挪

Rotte wrote:

哦，对了，还有一点，现在至少要一个spread，也就是说必须要3个diff才可以，
ENH或者NHI

Rotte wrote:

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现在的人做图水平真的好高啊，哭哭

From PM

[General]

Timing

Offset 必须向前退，在17252下红线 fixed


[Normal]

1. Fine.

[Omoi]

• OD+1
  
  01:18:918 (3,4,5,6) - 咱感觉这样打起来感觉不错 方向按着建议，然后形状做了个五角星
  
  
  02:20:585 (6,7,1) - flow不好，建议7往上挪 fixed

图不错啊
咱渣渣，啥都看不出来
SB*1 mapset*1

Normal:

Omoi:

1. 节奏不错,排版可以再花点心思
2. 感觉spinner加太多了
3. 00:49:395 (6) - whistle加在slider开头
4. 00:57:252 (1) - 开头finish
5. 01:04:871 (6) - 这里跟歌词没NC我懂，可是后面为什么又变回按小节NC了……我觉得有必要统一一下。
6. 01:05:228 (x) - 加note然后重排吧，我感觉你后面也有跟vocal加没道理这里不加吧
7. 01:10:347 (6,7,8) - 听起来非常别扭，感觉删了7然后把6延长到7的位置比较好点，就跟01:09:395 (3,4) 一样
8. 01:33:204 (6,7,8) - 虽然这么放也问题不大……可是这样显得有点乱. 建议删了7，然后6改成3/4 slider,原来结束的地方放个note
9. 01:48:680 (1,2) - 建议都改成3/4,vocal毕竟并没有在1/2的地方结束，没必要切断vocal，或者直接改成1/1
10. 01:52:490 (4) - ^
11. 02:31:180 (1) - 前移1/4
12. 02:42:133 (1) - 结尾加finish

1. 对于一个慢歌来说我觉得Normal星数略高了，其原因是节奏上个别地方的处理不当
2. 00:38:680 (2) 00:40:942 (5) - 比如这些完全可以不用3/4折返。其实后面也没用，这一段里面也就这里用了。建议改成3/2或者1/1
3. 01:07:490 (1,2,3) - 再比如这里，且不说3/4的问题，前面明明还跟着鼓呢这里突然就进vocal了，然后这边又变回了鼓。
4. 01:15:823 (3,4,1,2,3) - 而且塞这么满想不星数高都难
   
   其实对于一个normal来说，跟鼓也好跟vocal也好，最要会做的是概括性地下节奏。跟vocal不是死板的跟着每个歌词，跟鼓也不只是单纯下1/1。当然不管如何，最重要的是不乱，有整体感。

goodbye wrote:

SPOILER

Request from The Lazy Queue@がんばらない

[General]
其实我觉得前奏可以把BG搞个从暗到亮的渐变。 I'm working on it..
歌词放正中间有点无趣

[Hard]

1. 节奏不错,排版可以再花点心思
2. 感觉spinner加太多了 没太在意
3. 00:49:395 (6) - whistle加在slider开头 这里的vocal是比较平缓的，前面用的whistle突出的是顿促，所以没改
4. 00:57:252 (1) - 开头finish 改了
5. 01:04:871 (6) - 这里跟歌词没NC我懂，可是后面为什么又变回按小节NC了……我觉得有必要统一一下。 改了
6. 01:05:228 (x) - 加note然后重排吧，我感觉你后面也有跟vocal加没道理这里不加吧 改了
7. 01:10:347 (6,7,8) - 听起来非常别扭，感觉删了7然后把6延长到7的位置比较好点，就跟01:09:395 (3,4) 一样 重做了节奏
8. 01:33:204 (6,7,8) - 虽然这么放也问题不大……可是这样显得有点乱. 建议删了7，然后6改成3/4 slider,原来结束的地方放个note 我觉得这样挺干净的，也不算太靠近上面，左右虽然有一点贴着，打起来其实4的burst离着挺远的，没动
9. 01:48:680 (1,2) - 建议都改成3/4,vocal毕竟并没有在1/2的地方结束，没必要切断vocal，或者直接改成1/1 相较于前面，这里的歌词比较平顺，不需要特意弄成1/4做成紧凑的感觉
10. 01:52:490 (4) - ^ 同上
11. 02:31:180 (1) - 前移1/4 前一个slider已经是两个1/4接过来的，尾巴也接两个1/4我觉得不妥，而且目前这样的节奏感觉不错，没改
12. 02:42:133 (1) - 结尾加finish 改了

[Normal]

1. 对于一个慢歌来说我觉得Normal星数略高了，其原因是节奏上个别地方的处理不当
2. 00:38:680 (2) 00:40:942 (5) - 比如这些完全可以不用3/4折返。其实后面也没用，这一段里面也就这里用了。建议改成3/2或者1/1 听着很带感所以没改
3. 01:07:490 (1,2,3) - 再比如这里，且不说3/4的问题，前面明明还跟着鼓呢这里突然就进vocal了，然后这边又变回了鼓。 跟鼓会很无聊所以变成了vocal，感觉还行
4. 01:15:823 (3,4,1,2,3) - 而且塞这么满想不星数高都难 稍微化简了节奏
   
   其实对于一个normal来说，跟鼓也好跟vocal也好，最要会做的是概括性地下节奏。跟vocal不是死板的跟着每个歌词，跟鼓也不只是单纯下1/1。当然不管如何，最重要的是不乱，有整体感。 嗯，我会注意的

Mintice wrote:

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Hi I'm from M4M!
Unrankable
Strong suggestion
Normal suggestion

Normal
00:27:252 (1) - Overlaps with slider starts from 00:25:823 (2) thats too far..
01:09:871 (1) - Hard to read and may lead to slider-start-miss if played by beginners. added NC
01:22:013 (2,3) - Placement doesn't seem that good anything wrong with blanket ?
01:47:251 (1,2) - 1/4 interval in Normal difficulty? they are all sliders, and in such easy rhythm it's not big problem
01:51:061 (1,2) - ^
01:54:871 (1,2) - ^

Normal
00:34:394 (6,1) - Interval problem between circle and spinner. Consider making it as 1/2. that's fine 'cuz it's hard

Generally, this beatmap is very well mapped! Keep going!

Pokie wrote:

:? 原本想照顧下新人(?)給個full modding的…但點進Normal後發現糟點太多了, 有點吐不過來

首先Normal的難度方面, 這首歌BPM126, 最低難度的星數卻在3.21…這個其實不太恰當
原因e姐也提到了, 節奏下的比較沒有規律, 很隨意的在跟鼓與跟vocal之間切換。這種下節奏的方式加上大spacing和低AR…很容易導致新人誤讀然後miss的。
這首歌的節奏並不複雜, 其實可以嘗試一下做的更簡單的!

至於Hard, 整體方面還是有點overmap…盡管追求節奏緊密不是一件壞事, 但很多地方下簡單一點反而比較適合歌曲。
kiai段之中多餘的三連數不完的多, 而且whistle狂扔的效果其實也不太好…下次可以稍微多考慮一下節奏+音效與歌曲的契合度。
另外排版方面確實有待改進, 目前的排版有種搬到高结果BPM的圖都能套用的感覺, 也就是不太適合慢歌。可以多注意一下排列的flow感, 不過這個用文字有點難表達出來…就是像繞圈圈那樣的感覺, 要做的打起來順手而並不單調。

於是加油嘍!

Pokie wrote:

為難做難是做圖一大禁忌, 要做難圖可以選擇找一些節奏緊湊的歌。如果是真心喜歡這首歌曲才做的, 那為何不嘗試找出一個最適合這首歌的做法呢 ? 當然這並不代表我在否認你的想法, 只是希望下次做圖時能多注意一下這些地方。

Frostmourne wrote:

Frostmourne's mod

hi hi~
from The Lazy Queue@がんばらない

General
wondering why you include "play-skip.png" to the map? since you haven't done full skin so I suggest you remove it when there wasnt fade-in at the start I added it to let the player not to skip too early, but in criteria/wiki play-skip is not required to be made in any set. Kept for now until someone points this unrankable

Normal
00:38:680 (1) - this comes after spinner too fast, beginner cannot act to hit correctly with this gap
I suggest you remove this note, just 00:39:632 (1) - is enough removed
also move 00:39:632 (1) - to x:120 y:144 and 00:40:109 (2) - to x:80 y:268 to avoid overlapping with 00:42:014 (1) - , it looks hard to play for the beginner fixed

SPOILER

00:39:632 (1) - clap , you might forget it ahh...fixed
00:40:109 (2) - clap tail fixed
00:53:918 (1) - again, this comes after spinner too soon , fix this by this solution would be nice , also don't forget to add a clap at the tail fixed

SPOILER

00:57:251 (4) - New combo for consistency in this diff and add clap at the tail of slider as well fixed
01:04:394 (1) - clap head (1st point and 3rd point) to not let it blank fixed
01:06:299 (3) - whistle fit well with the tail as you can hear in the song yeah, it's nice
01:10:585 (2) - clap tail of this slider
01:12:013 (3) - clap
01:15:347 (2) - clap tail all fixed
01:26:776 (4) - as I can see your new combo usage, I suggest you add New combo here to fit the vocal better (as you use by following the vocal mainly)
01:27:728 (1) - remove this new combo as well ^
01:28:680 (6) - add new combo
01:30:109 (1) - remove new combo here done
01:47:252 (1,2) - better set the solution for this again with the note after the spinner coming too fast
like this by starting the slider 01:47:490 and ending at 01:47:966 sorry but I cant hear how this fits with music, considering the consistence of this period I decide to make no change

SPOILER

01:49:633 (1) - remove new combo , it's unnecessary because you didn't add new combo like this point 01:53:442 (2) - fixed
01:56:776 (1) - remove new combo as well fixed
02:00:585 (1) - remove this note , too fast after spinner fixed
02:04:871 (1) - this new combo is unnessary too, you should remove it imo this vocal is a little special so I added NC. Kept for now
02:12:966 (3) - clap head
02:13:918 (4) - add new combo here and remove new combo at 02:14:395 (1) -
02:21:061 (3) - finish head slider and add clap at the tail of its
02:28:680 (2) - clap tail
02:36:299 (2) - finish only first point of the slider(1st point) and clap at the tail(2nd point)
02:38:204 (4) - new combo here all done

Omoi
00:23:442 (1) - clap head
00:53:442 (1) - I feel this note really empty, use finish instead of whistle would be nice
00:57:728 (2) - move this down 5 grid (to x:304 y:104) so that the stack will be completely proper with 00:57:014 (3) - and looks clean
00:58:442 (4) - clap tail all fixed
00:59:156 (1,2,3) - this anti-jump is confusing because the spacing you used looks totally like something like this 00:55:347 (3,4,5) -
it has different rhythm but the spacing is almost the same
what I want you to fix is new combo 00:59:632 (2) - and new combo 01:00:109 (3) - as well
because the new combo color will indicate that the spacing is changed better than nothing added NC
01:04:871 (1) - clap the last point (01:05:347) fixed
01:10:109 (5) - move to x:456 y:256 so that the spacing will be perfect and not confusing (1.53x between the previous note and next note) considering this, I changed the placings of following notes for better flow
01:20:109 (1) - move to x:364 y:262 to stack completely with 01:19:871 (7,8) - fixed
01:27:252 (4,5) - ctrl+g these notes, the current doesn't play well in my opinion , the jump from 4 is too short and 4 to 5 is too large which is not balance in my opinion, fix clap sound after doing this too I intend to make the pattern like two triangles, so even the jumps around 3/4/5 may seem not balanced it could be played well
01:28:204 (8) - add clap fixed
01:31:061 (4,5) - ctrl+g this because the jump from 01:31:299 (5) - after you already did ctrl+g it, the large jump will fit with the music accordingly (like a higher volume with larger jump) fix clap sound after doing this too yeah, fixed
01:55:228 (2) - move up 1 grid to fit the spacing with 01:55:823 (3,4,1) - (as you see, (2) is a bit unbalance when you compare its spacing with them)
also after moving (2) , move 01:54:871 (1) to the point around this too because the rhythm is not 1/2 normal fixed

SPOILER

02:02:014 (1) - finish the head (1st point) and clap the last point(3rd point) only fixed
02:04:871 (1,2,3) - this spacing is totally error, I suggest you move 02:05:347 (2) - on this note 02:04:871 (1) - and move 02:05:585 (3) - to x:352 y:160 to make it play better (with the balance jump) nice idea, fixed

SPOILER

02:09:752 (1) - clap this spinner as well fixed
02:12:966 (4) - clap fixed
02:23:323 (8,1) - this spacing is too short when you compare this with other spacings you have done in this map
I would do like this if I were you, this is my personal feeling though, feel free to ignore but it helps play better to me well not big problem for me, considering the following pattern is a triplet short spacing may be easier for player to focus on the next notes. Anyway I adjusted the placings

SPOILER

02:31:061 (7) - clap fixed

Good enough for the first map , Omoi diff is a bit overmapping but those points are on where the music actually sound, although they don't sound obviously but they still look ok to me and for your first map.

Find more mods (about 2-3 mods with constructive,useful and reasonable mods) and I will bubble this