23:42 lolcubes: i would say this is 140bpm jonathan
23:44 lolcubes: rock based music almost never goes double digit
23:44 lolcubes: especially not below 90 :p
23:44 jonathanlfj: well i got the bpm through the bass snares during kiai
23:44 jonathanlfj: and yeah confirmed by those
23:44 jonathanlfj: kinda
23:44 lolcubes: the drum patterns suggest 140 if you ask me
23:44 lolcubes: but w/e
23:44 jonathanlfj: ><
23:44 jonathanlfj: i dunno man too much things happening with bpm
23:44 Xakyrie: yeah ikr
23:44 lolcubes: there is a lot of confusion and different interpretation
23:44 lolcubes: but unless you have the correct source
23:44 lolcubes: it can be either
23:45 lolcubes: i am positive it's 140 though
23:45 lolcubes: but hey those says it''s not so it's my word against his
23:45 lolcubes: we're both proficient in this area
23:45 lolcubes: which makes it a stalemate
23:45 jonathanlfj: lol
23:45 jonathanlfj: inb4 someone says 280 bpm
23:45 Xakyrie: LOL
23:45 jonathanlfj: i can ask chin to confirm though
23:46 Xakyrie: is he on?
23:46 Xakyrie: oh he is
23:46 Xakyrie: sec
23:46 jonathanlfj: dunno let me skype
23:46 those: hi
23:46 Xakyrie: k
23:46 jonathanlfj: lol
23:46 Xakyrie: nvm jonathan
23:46 those: who's here
23:46 Xakyrie: lol
23:46 jonathanlfj: here u are
23:46 Xakyrie: besides everyone who spoke, cubes
23:46 *Xakyrie is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/224016 Hanazawa Kana - Yuki ni Saku Hana (TV Size)]
23:59 Xakyrie: since we all discussed 70bpm but cubes said it's probably 140
00:00 Xakyrie: just want to confirm it =~=
00:00 lolcubes: it's really hard to know without the original arrange as i said
00:00 lolcubes: both can work
00:00 lolcubes: i would lean towards 140 because of the instruments used and the rhythm pattern as a whole
00:00 lolcubes: it's rare that such patterns go below 90 bpm
00:01 those: It gets really obvious in the chorus that it's 70bpm
00:01 lolcubes: these are live drums
00:01 lolcubes: i mean, supposed to be lilve drums
00:02 lolcubes: i do agree that it can also be 70
00:02 lolcubes: but i would lean towards 140 because of the rhythm pattern as a whole as i said
00:02 lolcubes: if you listen to it, you would see it repeats every measure with 70
00:02 lolcubes: which is uncommon
00:03 lolcubes: because all rhythm patterns are split into 2 measures
00:03 lolcubes: in such music
00:03 lolcubes: but yeah
00:03 lolcubes: unless we get the original sheet
00:03 lolcubes: both are right so w/e
00:03 Xakyrie: hm
00:03 Xakyrie: I see 0.0
00:04 jonathanlfj: im lost but i guess concensus has reached...?
00:04 Xakyrie: LOL
00:04 lolcubes: i already told you, both can work
00:04 Xakyrie: it's technically both right
00:04 jonathanlfj: great then
00:05 lolcubes: i still stand by my opinion of 140 and why though
00:05 lolcubes: :p
00:05 Xakyrie: makes sense
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00:08 lolcubes: yeah i would lean towards 140, but what i did see is that you used 1,2x SV
00:08 lolcubes: with weird offset
00:08 lolcubes: just one red lines with a flat SV value of what you have x1.2 should be best imo
00:09 lolcubes: what you have is technically wrong cause you can avoid it
00:09 lolcubes: delete the green line before the 2nd red, delete the first red, set SV to 1.2x of what you have currently, make all 1.2x into 1.0 and 1.4 into
00:20 lolcubes: you have a red line @neg offset
00:20 jonathanlfj: yes
00:20 lolcubes: just move it forward
00:21 lolcubes: so it's not neg
00:21 jonathanlfj: ahh ok
00:21 jonathanlfj: thats what i was asking
00:21 jonathanlfj: kk going to change that
00:35 lolcubes: 00:02:822 - you dont need this green section, remove it
00:35 lolcubes: looks good otherwise