this actually kind of belongs in general discussion because the topic has diverged from being lol ot shit to being somewhat interesting.. i just don't want it to get shit up by POST WHAT YOU HAD FOR DINNER LAST NIGHT pubbies
I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. Firstly, it seems the your last two lines contradict each other. Are you using the tale as a bad example of how friendship should work? Either way, it seems you two are no longer friends since you now refuse to talk to him. There's nothing wrong with a Christian talking to an Atheist. Religion does not define a person.Apex wrote:
There were two friends who were very close.(Imagine Apex and ME9981 as those two friends.)One spends his free time in markets and cities to learn, while the other one spends his freetime in his room reading and thinking to learn. Once when they were reading together, there were a festival, and the floats passed where they were reading. The former went to see what was going on, but before he could, the latter cut the straw mat(kind of function likes a sofa, but lighter and cheaper) they sat in to half, and said :"We are people of diferrent interests, therefore, we shouldn't be friends anymore." Therefore, different people with great different interests or thoughts should be friends.
I'm impressed. We're not moving a thread to GD because OT actually provides better discussion.Ephemeral wrote:
this actually kind of belongs in general discussion because the topic has diverged from being lol ot shit to being somewhat interesting.. i just don't want it to get shit up by POST WHAT YOU HAD FOR DINNER LAST NIGHT pubbies
Pretty much what I thought while reading all those comments...lolMr Color wrote:
Hey, Apex.
Stop speaking.
that in itself is a leap of faith. Eph never said OT provides better discussion. He said that, in GenD, the thread would get drowned out, suffocated, forgotten because of all the pointless threads in that board.Mr Color wrote:
I'm impressed. We're not moving a thread to GD because OT actually provides better discussion.
Kinda makes you think doesn't it
So basically what you're saying isBrian OA wrote:
my religion = your religion and words
That's not how a discussion works. We don't want a pile of cards, we want a deck.tyrael6192 wrote:
I'm not seeking to dispute the opinion of anyone else here, i just wanted to throw my cards on the table.
The thing is,we can't possibly form a deck from this pile of cards...or should I say this mess...Wojjan wrote:
That's not how a discussion works. We don't want a pile of cards, we want a deck.tyrael6192 wrote:
I'm not seeking to dispute the opinion of anyone else here, i just wanted to throw my cards on the table.
A single religion would be impossible, given how almost every one is based on some form of divine intervention, such as Christ's birth, death, and resurrection, or some prophet squatting in a cave and communicating with an angel (this would cross out Haruhi and Kira, since their origins are of a different nature). Most of these religions might have similar moral and ethical codes, but they would still disagree on whether there is a heaven at all, on what happens to your soul or whether you even have one, etc. You can't compromise two religions where one says evil is an equal force to good and another that says evil has no power in the face of good. Zoroastrianism and Christianity wouldn't mix in that case.Hoverlegs wrote:
So basically what you're saying isBrian OA wrote:
my religion = your religion and words
Jesus = Allah = Haruhi = Kira Yamato
If every religion is just as valid as the next, only a single religion should exist and we'll all go to heaven. Of course it's better that way but we just can't have nice things, can we?
Why do you pledge to put faith in a certain religion instead of an other certain religion? Even if other religions might have questionable amount of truths in them, everything that came from your Bible, Quran or whatever should never be doubted or questioned, since that predicament could be deemed as blasphemy. Their ideals are probably not far from each other and they probably share the same goal, but the way they execute their actions to achieve it are different. And that matters a lot. Comparing religions is okay, but if you start doubting your own, you better think long and hard about what you're going to do next. If you truly have faith in your religion, you should think of it as the greatest, and any thoughts of believing in an other religion should be thrown away. Otherwise just join the one you think is greater or quit religion and rely on SCIENCEAND YET WE ALL DOUBT. Even Mother Theresa doubted, for Pete's sake. Even Christ doubted when he was suffering the greatest pain any man could bear. Yet we all remember them as saints or the alleged Son of God. Faith wavers and makes you doubt a lot assuming you're not shutting the rest of the world out.
Well cripe, if you don't know why, then you might as well not say it at all. If they have a reason to contend for it, it has to be profitable in some way, be it through money or power. But if you're just going to throw an ambiguous, unclear example and then say "we can't discuss it because we'd go in circles (as if we don't do that with every topic under the sun)" then don't mention it at all; you're not proving any points with that and providing no grounds to argue with either.Aurani wrote:
so many words
the only thing I want to add is that religion is basically a mere tool that certain people who rule the world use to control the masses with relative ease.It's in the nature of a creature to hate or fear somebody or something just because it can't understand it,and since most of Earth's population consists of intellectually crippled people,you can only expect religion to be used to control them in more ways than just the economic one.A completely baseless statement. To clarify, the tool to control the masses isn't religion, it's comfort and media. That's the whole point in Brave New World, if you've ever read it. Secondly, you're not being clear; how is being afraid of the unknown and being intellectually crippled somehow relate to being controlled by religion? Thirdly, you're implying that the majority of the population is intellectually crippled--somehow making them subject to being religious. As if ignorance means religion. Yet there are exorbitant amounts of religious intellectuals, famous or not, around the globe, throughout history, and in every book.
Brian OA wrote:
Even Christ doubted when he was suffering the greatest pain any man could bear
Just checked,I think that will be well worth my time.Brian OA wrote:
1) Look up Strunken White. It's short and will help immeasurably.
They don't?As far as I know there was more than 1 occasion where Popes/various other people changed something related with religion to make people "bow" to their will,for the sake of their personal profit(or power,which is related to profit-like you mentioned 2 posts before).I'm not saying that everything is wrong,I'm against organisations and not against the core-believing in something divine.Brian OA wrote:
2) Religions don't deceive; you're implying it's a big lie. Unless we're talking about Scientology.
Are you trying to oppress my religious beliefs? *pulls out a gun*Brian OA wrote:
3) Stahp
you would have to then make the counterargument that everyone else has to tone down the heterosexuality in their posts. You just called that girl "kawaii uguu cute =3="? KILL YOURSELFHoverlegs wrote:
and since homophobia is mentioned in this thread, I don't mind gay people but I have to admit that I think Clawsmash is way too open about his sexuality in his posts, and he should tone his gayness down alot little
Wojjan you of all people should know that OT doesn't work like thatWojjan wrote:
That's not how a discussion works. We don't want a pile of cards, we want a deck.tyrael6192 wrote:
I'm not seeking to dispute the opinion of anyone else here, i just wanted to throw my cards on the table.
you can just go back into that box you came from if you're going to be like that misterPokebis wrote:
I'm really glad that this place devolved into Reddit.
lol, I was just asking for a post dissection with that weak argument. Nah, I totally agree with most of your points; if I were to impose my atheistic beliefs unto others it would be hypocritical of me, because I hate Christians (singling them out, because they're notorious for this but to other religions as well) that have that "holier than thou" mindset.Ephemeral wrote:
good-ass points
The way I see it, they can be holier than thou. I'm fine with being smarter than thoumathexpert9981 wrote:
I hate Christians (singling them out, because they're notorious for this but to other religions as well) that have that "holier than thou" mindset.
nail, meet hammer.Brian OA wrote:
Any Christian that'd be honest with themselves can't adopt that mindset without being hypocrites. Basically what Matthew 7:1 says: "You shall not judge, lest you be judged." Because some people deem it more important to call others out for their sins without dealing with their own problems first.
It started nice tho...but then it just went in a completely wrong direction,which is to be expected of such a delicate topic.Kanye West wrote:
This thread isn't even popcorn-worthy