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Two Steps From Hell - Heart of Courage (Remix) [Osu|Taiko]

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Tiger Jackie
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 17. mája 2013 at 15:25:25

Artist: Two Steps From Hell
Title: Heart of Courage (Remix)
BPM: 128
Filesize: 11224kb
Play Time: 03:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Brave (4,81 stars, 302 notes)
  2. FantasyMania (4,95 stars, 202 notes)
  3. Firing Heart (4,86 stars, 79 notes)
Download: Two Steps From Hell - Heart of Courage (Remix)
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Finally continued
cheesiest
Seriously.

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16:13 hornex: Hey
16:13 cheesiest: hi
16:13 hornex: I improved mah map :3
16:13 hornex: Want to test it?
16:13 cheesiest: yeah, sure
16:14 hornex: Its very hard tho
16:14 *hornex is listening to Two Steps From Hell - Heart of Courage ( Remix )
16:14 hornex: Tell me when you downloaded it
16:14 *cheesiest is playing Two Steps From Hell - Heart of Courage ( Remix ) [God]
16:15 hornex: Okay :3
16:15 hornex: Use nofail
16:15 hornex: XD
16:16 hornex: Nice
16:16 hornex: :D
16:17 cheesiest: The jumps don't make sense.
16:17 hornex: They do
16:17 hornex: Perfectly symetrical
16:17 hornex: But I will make them smaller
16:17 cheesiest: they don't lol
16:18 hornex: They do
16:18 hornex: xD
16:18 hornex: Use autopilot
16:18 hornex: And you will see
16:18 cheesiest: The jumps don't make sense.
16:18 cheesiest: Not note placement.
16:18 hornex: Idk what do you mean then
16:18 hornex: Other said it was fine
16:20 cheesiest: Just because others said it was fine doesn't really mean it's fine.
16:20 hornex: But everyones opinion is different
16:20 cheesiest: Okay, so, here.
16:20 cheesiest: Let me quick IRC mod.
16:20 hornex: Wait
16:20 hornex: If White Wolf said its fine
16:20 hornex: It means it isnt
16:20 hornex: D:
16:22 cheesiest: "Heart of Courage (Remix)", not "Heart of Courage ( Remix )"
16:22 cheesiest: Diff name doesn't really make sense.
16:22 hornex: It does
16:22 hornex: But you didnt see the movie
16:22 hornex: So you dont know
16:22 hornex: But sure il change the name
16:23 cheesiest: Take away YouTube from your source.
16:23 cheesiest: Doesn't belong there.
16:23 cheesiest: Doesn't belong anywhere./
16:23 hornex: Why?
16:24 hornex: I got the song from youtube
16:24 hornex: DOwnloaded it from there
16:24 cheesiest: It doesn't.
16:24 hornex: But why?
16:24 cheesiest: 01:36:643 (4)- doesn't play symmetrically to 01:36:174 (3)
16:25 hornex: Yes it does
16:25 cheesiest: It's just generally what the Source info isn't used for.
16:25 hornex: I mean
16:25 hornex: It doesnt
16:25 hornex: But it does
16:25 hornex: xD
16:25 cheesiest: It looks symettrical, but doesn't play like so.
16:25 cheesiest: Reverse it with Ctrl + G
16:25 cheesiest: Perhaps you can put the name of the movie in your Source
16:26 hornex: Fixed
16:26 cheesiest: 01:33:829 (7)- new combo here
16:26 cheesiest: 01:20:699 (7)- new combo here
16:26 cheesiest: 01:39:925 (1)- remove new combo
16:27 cheesiest: 01:39:456 (6)- add new combo
16:27 cheesiest: 01:41:332 (4)- add new combo
16:27 cheesiest: 01:49:539 (5)- new combo
16:27 cheesiest: 01:52:587 (8)- new combo
16:27 cheesiest: 01:54:697 (5)- new combo
16:27 cheesiest: 01:55:635 (1)- remove new combo
16:27 cheesiest: 01:55:635 (1)- new combo
16:28 cheesiest: 01:59:758 Object isn't snapped!
16:29 cheesiest: Pretty much everything in the snapping spot of AiMod
16:29 cheesiest: since you can't have unsnapped notes
16:29 hornex: If I cant have unsapped notes then it cantbe a jump map can it
16:29 hornex: I fixed some stuff
16:29 cheesiest: Unsnapped means its not snapped on the timeline
16:29 hornex: But decided to leave some be
16:29 cheesiest: Not on the grid.
16:30 cheesiest: your BPM is off by a it
16:30 cheesiest: a bit*
16:31 cheesiest: 128 BPM
16:32 cheesiest: The beginning seems a bit too easy for the rest of your map, despite the jumps really not making sense.
16:33 cheesiest: 01:52:805 (1,2,3,4)-
16:33 cheesiest: these feel weird
16:33 hornex: But they are fine
16:33 cheesiest: They're fine.
16:34 cheesiest: Just feel a bit weird.
16:34 hornex: And the bpm is perfect
16:34 cheesiest: Consider changing it.
16:34 hornex: I used a BPM scanner
16:34 cheesiest: The BPM is 128, not 127.95.
16:34 hornex: Made by Sony
16:34 cheesiest: And?
16:34 cheesiest: They could still be wrong.
16:34 hornex: Ive set the bpm according to it
16:34 cheesiest: 128 BPM fits better.
16:34 hornex: No it cant
16:34 hornex: If its sony
16:34 hornex: Then it works
16:35 cheesiest: Have fun not getting your map ranked then.
16:35 hornex: You are the only one complaining about it so much
16:35 cheesiest: If you're seriously not gonna change it then you're not going to get it ranked.
16:35 hornex: Forseen, whitewolf, Daiya, and much more
16:35 hornex: HAve said its good
16:36 cheesiest: The timing is still wrong.
16:36 cheesiest: http://puu.sh/1MVYq From the wiki under Ranking Criteria Rules.
16:37 hornex: Nop ive retimed it multiple times and made sure the timing is perfect on the end and on the beggining too
16:37 hornex: Nop
16:37 hornex: Not clicking it
16:37 cheesiest: Well. Hmm.
16:37 hornex: You are the only outof 20 proffesional players which complains
16:37 cheesiest: Just because they play good doesn't mean they know much about mapping.
16:38 cheesiest: But seriously.
16:38 cheesiest: The BPM is 128.00.
16:39 hornex: Daiya made multiple maps
16:39 hornex: That got ranked
16:39 hornex: So did TicClick
16:39 cheesiest: Umm.
16:39 cheesiest: They weren't badly timed.
16:39 hornex: They rated its good
16:39 cheesiest: honrex.
16:39 cheesiest: Really.
16:40 hornex: TicClick is a famous mapper and he said its fine so thats my final verdict
16:42 cheesiest: Anyways.
16:42 cheesiest: Offset should be 75,116.
16:42 hornex: No
16:42 hornex: I tested it with offset 75,116
16:42 hornex: And
16:43 hornex: Near the end
16:43 hornex: The notes were badly off
16:43 cheesiest: 75,098
16:43 hornex: They were BADLY off
16:43 hornex: So even that wont work
16:43 hornex: The current offset is good
16:43 cheesiest: I guess it's fine.
16:43 hornex: I checked it in 1/16 snap divisor setting with a full zoom-in
16:43 cheesiest: Online offset would fix it.
16:44 cheesiest: You're supposed to check with 25% speed
16:44 cheesiest: not the timeline
16:44 cheesiest: lol
16:44 hornex: Well
16:44 hornex: Yes timeline
16:44 hornex: Since there I can both bear
16:44 hornex: And see
16:44 hornex: Where it begins
16:44 cheesiest: ok fine
16:44 cheesiest: BPM is still 128.
16:44 hornex: I just checked
16:45 hornex: 1/16 snap divisor 25% and maximum zoomin
16:45 hornex: The offset is perfectly setted
16:45 hornex: Fine I will try out the 128 bpm so I can prove you wrong
16:46 cheesiest: Perhaps 75,094 offset.
16:47 hornex: No
16:47 cheesiest: Put 25% speed
16:47 hornex: The notes were badly off the music by the end
16:47 cheesiest: Go to timing at the top.
16:47 hornex: No
16:47 hornex: And again no
16:47 hornex: I already tried
16:47 hornex: It
16:47 hornex: WAs
16:47 hornex: WRONG
16:48 hornex: I play the piano violin and bass, my father is a singer and a musican too
16:48 hornex: My mother used to sing
16:48 hornex: I have a perfect talent to hear tiny errors in music
16:48 hornex: + I use some expensive sound-tight headphones with multiple features
16:48 cheesiest: Did they sing off-beat as well?
16:49 hornex: No
16:49 hornex: Youa re off-beat
16:49 cheesiest: so
16:49 hornex: And changine the songs bpm by 0,05 doesnt make mch diffrence you know
16:49 cheesiest: did you put at least 128 BPM?
16:49 hornex: Even the wrolds expert wouldnt hear the difference
16:50 cheesiest: you are fucking stupid lol
16:50 cheesiest: I can't believe how fucking moronic you are.
16:50 hornex: I am not moronic
16:50 cheesiest: Right.
16:50 cheesiest: You're not.
16:50 cheesiest: You're beyond moronic.
16:50 hornex: But I hate those who dont even hear how wrong they are int he music
16:50 hornex: I made multiple remixed songs so I do hear the differences
16:50 cheesiest: Don't hate yourself kiddo.
16:50 hornex: But you apparently
16:50 hornex: Dont
16:50 cheesiest: You've got others to do that.
16:50 hornex: Yeah sure
16:51 hornex: but you dont even have the others
16:51 hornex: Since I atleast have friends
16:51 cheesiest: omg oh no you said i have no friends
16:51 cheesiest: brb crying
16:51 hornex: Take your time
16:52 cheesiest: Oh well. Hope you realize that you not being able to take constructive criticism is not going to help you.
16:53 hornex: Well
16:53 hornex: I took criticism from 2 proffesional mappers
16:53 hornex: I fixed the problems
16:53 hornex: But I wont take stupid criticism
16:53 hornex: From a moron who doesnt even hear that if the offset is 79,116 it sounds completly wrong in the further part
16:53 cheesiest: I corrected that.
16:54 cheesiest: I said it was around 75,090~75,100
16:54 hornex: And who thinks that by changing 127,95 bpm to 128 will make any difference
16:54 cheesiest: It does.
16:54 cheesiest: It really does.
16:54 cheesiest: Let me get some professionals on your case to help you with your mapping.
16:54 hornex: Well by one minute the bpm change by 0,05
16:54 hornex: The bpm lasts 3 minutes
16:55 hornex: Wow 0,15 difference
16:55 hornex: No
16:55 hornex: I wont accept anyone
16:55 hornex: Anyone else than TicClick and Daiya
16:55 hornex: And im sure you know TicClick
16:55 cheesiest: Yes, I know TicClick
16:55 hornex: And you sure do know his popula rmaps
16:55 cheesiest: Mhmm.
16:55 hornex: Well
16:55 cheesiest: What advice did he give you thoughZ?
16:55 hornex: He saw my map
16:55 cheesiest: though*
16:56 hornex: His advices were to change combos in some parts
16:56 hornex: And that one note in the middle isnt correctly timed
16:56 hornex: And that the strams isnt snapped properly
16:56 hornex: But I already knew that
16:56 hornex: And thats it
16:56 cheesiest: You still need to snap the streams properly.
16:58 hornex: You dont have to tell me that since I knew that already
16:58 hornex: And I doubt you ever made any popular map
16:59 cheesiest: still 128 bpm and around 75,090~75,100 offset. :3
16:59 hornex: So I shouldnt really take any advices from you at all
16:59 cheesiest: no i haven't lol
16:59 cheesiest: LOL
16:59 hornex: And the only advices that were kinda good you gave me were form Ai Mod
16:59 hornex: from*
16:59 cheesiest: Because you've barely mapped this at all.
16:59 hornex: Because its not finished
17:00 cheesiest: Which is why I don't have enough advice to give.
17:00 hornex: And even tho you did give advice it was crap
17:00 hornex: Il now play my 2 favourite beatmaps
17:01 cheesiest: #modhelp
[Luanny]
couldn't laugh more.
Haikizoku_old
Good day sir,
I'm here to let you know 3, yes three, things.
1. BPM = 128
2. Offset = 75.098 (Give or take 0.002)
3. Dear god... That entire chat was horrible.
In all honesty, I don't even know why I'm typing this, cause I'll probably get called an idiot and you'd get mad.
But whatever.

That will be all.
Have a nice day.

PS : This did bring attention to your map, I guess.
dkun
souce isn't youtube.
youtube is never used as a source.
no space between the (R and x) in (Remix), either.

no kds please.

take it from someone who has ranked maps and has "popular" maps.
cirno-_old
I was listening to cheesiest talk about it so I had to check it out. I'd remap a lot of it. First off, the intro is real easy compared to the jumps after that. And the jumps are too much and unnecessary. It feels gimmicky.

01:58:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - This stream is all messed up. Lots of it isn't snapped (CTRL+SHIFT+A to check). Also make it curve nicer.

Now there are some times that jumps like above might be good, (still though in moderation). For example:
02:00:090 - This is a spot you should starts some jumps. The music really starts up and you can probably get away with using a higher DS.

Let me know when you finish it o.o Cheesiest has gotten on my case on one of my maps before, and for good reason. He knows what he is talking about.

Also I don't think you need a release date in your post. It's not like your map will be ranked on that day or anything and your going to be constantly updating it from mods till it's finally ranked. :P

On another side note, I don't think this song is a good choice if you want to create a very hard map like you're trying to.
Mismagius
I came back just to say your map is bad and your attitude should be fixed, or else you will never get respected for your map.
Ayu
brb posting in a shitfest
Topic Starter
Tiger Jackie

cirno- wrote:

I was listening to cheesiest talk about it so I had to check it out. I'd remap a lot of it. First off, the intro is real easy compared to the jumps after that. And the jumps are too much and unnecessary. It feels gimmicky.

01:58:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - This stream is all messed up. Lots of it isn't snapped (CTRL+SHIFT+A to check). Also make it curve nicer.

Now there are some times that jumps like above might be good, (still though in moderation). For example:
02:00:090 - This is a spot you should starts some jumps. The music really starts up and you can probably get away with using a higher DS.

Let me know when you finish it o.o Cheesiest has gotten on my case on one of my maps before, and for good reason. He knows what he is talking about.

Also I don't think you need a release date in your post. It's not like your map will be ranked on that day or anything and your going to be constantly updating it from mods till it's finally ranked. :P

On another side note, I don't think this song is a good choice if you want to create a very hard map like you're trying to.

Thank you for your fair rating and advices ^^ Yes I know the stream is pretty off, but I already knew that and I will fix it right away.
Unlike cheesiest and his idiocy to tell it to his friends so they could post a hating comment to my map here ^^
And seriously, I tried the setting the offset .. the notes by the end were seriously fuc** up with that offset.. And the current bpm is
279,95.. If I set it to 280 the difference is 0,05 and the whole beatmap will have 3 minutes, so the overall diffrence is 0.15 which is nearly unnoticable
and can be easily ignored...

But thank you :)
Topic Starter
Tiger Jackie

Blue Dragon wrote:

I came back just to say your map is bad and your attitude should be fixed, or else you will never get respected for your map.
Yes I know many errors of my map, but cheesiest pissed me off immensely since his adivces were totally stupid.
Most of that he advised me was from AiMod and the offset and bpm advice was wrong and didnt work...
[Luanny]
nvm
I could laugh more.
cheesiest

[Luanny] wrote:

nvm
I could laugh more.
moar

Ayu

hornex wrote:

If I set it to 280 the difference is 0,05 and the whole beatmap will have 3 minutes, so the overall diffrence is 0.15 which is nearly unnoticable
and can be easily ignored...

hornex wrote:

If I set it to 280 the difference is 0,05 and the whole beatmap will have 3 minutes, so the overall diffrence is 0.15 which is nearly unnoticable
and can be easily ignored...

hornex wrote:

If I set it to 280 the difference is 0,05 and the whole beatmap will have 3 minutes, so the overall diffrence is 0.15 which is nearly unnoticable
and can be easily ignored...


hornex wrote:

But thank you :)
cheesiest
Topic Starter
Tiger Jackie

Haikizoku wrote:

Good day sir,
I'm here to let you know 3, yes three, things.
1. BPM = 128
2. Offset = 75.098 (Give or take 0.002)
3. Dear god... That entire chat was horrible.
In all honesty, I don't even know why I'm typing this, cause I'll probably get called an idiot and you'd get mad.
But whatever.

That will be all.
Have a nice day.

PS : This did bring attention to your map, I guess.
No I wont call you an idiot but I am dissapointed you fell for him... If you tried the offset and bpm then went forth in the song near the end you could see the notes didnt at all match the song and would need full remapping.. Yes the chat was horrible, I am a very friendly guy but when someone
starts giving stupid ideas and begins to act like a dic* in my eyes then I get really pissed an annoyed, I am very sorry for my behaviour and I understand you all, but oyu should understand me too
dkun
Have you taken a glance at the official beatmap guidelines and rules?

Do you know it's rude to ignore modders?

Have you noticed these people are trying to help you?
Jenny
gj dude, gj


hornex wrote:

If I set it to 280 the difference is 0,05 and the whole beatmap will have 3 minutes, so the overall diffrence is 0.15 which is nearly unnoticable
and can be easily ignored...
2007 YOLO STYLE
Topic Starter
Tiger Jackie

cheesiest wrote:

Might get even popular because of it :)
Topic Starter
Tiger Jackie

Jenny wrote:

gj dude, gj
Thank you ^^
If that was sarcastic you probably got sent the chat by cheesiest
just because he is attempting to make everyone hate me but thats okay...

I respect kids with dreams like him
cirno-_old

hornex wrote:

cirno- wrote:

I was listening to cheesiest talk about it so I had to check it out. I'd remap a lot of it. First off, the intro is real easy compared to the jumps after that. And the jumps are too much and unnecessary. It feels gimmicky.

01:58:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - This stream is all messed up. Lots of it isn't snapped (CTRL+SHIFT+A to check). Also make it curve nicer.

Now there are some times that jumps like above might be good, (still though in moderation). For example:
02:00:090 - This is a spot you should starts some jumps. The music really starts up and you can probably get away with using a higher DS.

Let me know when you finish it o.o Cheesiest has gotten on my case on one of my maps before, and for good reason. He knows what he is talking about.

Also I don't think you need a release date in your post. It's not like your map will be ranked on that day or anything and your going to be constantly updating it from mods till it's finally ranked. :P

On another side note, I don't think this song is a good choice if you want to create a very hard map like you're trying to.

Thank you for your fair rating and advices ^^ Yes I know the stream is pretty off, but I already knew that and I will fix it right away.
Unlike cheesiest and his idiocy to tell it to his friends so they could post a hating comment to my map here ^^
And seriously, I tried the setting the offset .. the notes by the end were seriously fuc** up with that offset.. And the current bpm is
279,95.. If I set it to 280 the difference is 0,05 and the whole beatmap will have 3 minutes, so the overall diffrence is 0.15 which is nearly unnoticable
and can be easily ignored...

But thank you :)
Those streams I posted would be better if they were 1/8 reverse sliders. Just sayin.
Your timing is still a bit off, and it needs to be perfect in order for it to be considered at all. Post it in #modreqs asking for a timing check, or post here:
t/13795

Timing can be tricky, especially for us new mappers :oops:
[Luanny]
>Getting popular because of stupid jumps
way to go.
edit: you could avoid all this shit by changing the damn timing
everything would be ok after that.
Ayu
>saying Jenny is a kid with dreams
Topic Starter
Tiger Jackie

dkun wrote:

Have you taken a glance at the official beatmap guidelines and rules?

Do you know it's rude to ignore modders?

Have you noticed these people are trying to help you?
I appriciate help of good modders, bot bad modders
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