mostJarrod wrote:
This could work... But I dunno about totally removing hitbursts...
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lol it's first on google but ok.
heres the website: http://www.chromatiqa.org/?page_id=207
it's a flash game
heres the website: http://www.chromatiqa.org/?page_id=207
it's a flash game
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Maybe the late/early hitbursts would work... and perhaps they could be colour coded or something like the hitbursts are?
also then pro's could still have 300's hidden because well, that's a perfect hit lol
also then pro's could still have 300's hidden because well, that's a perfect hit lol
Like a green 100 for early and a red 100 for late or the other way around. I think thats the least distracting way lol. But all in all i think showing this during game is distracting too much that its worsening your timing if keep paying attention to that (about the ms over circle <--)
This is really cool imo, I'd definitely like to see something like this.Hanyuu wrote:
Hm the game notedrop has such a thing in the result screen. Are you thinking about something like this?
Also, I actually really like this idea of colour-ramped hitbursts. Like, the colour of a hitburst can be subtly tinted depending on how your timing was (with 1 ms precision of course). It should be subtle so that hitbursts still look the proper colour when you hit them, yet during streams, you can notice if it's getting too... well.. I dunno, red, or green or something. Like, usually if you're gradually falling out of rhythm, this would show up as gradually increasing amounts of early/lateness, and therefore, with this feature, will result in gradually reddening hitbursts (or greenifying...).
.........Yeah!
Something like that would be great.Coloring all hitbursts this way would change the gameplay too much, my idea is to color only 100s and 50s to let you know when you're too late or too early. Yes, in a perfect world, every circle is mapped on an actual sound so you can compare timing. We don't live in that world.
EDIT: Star~
EDIT: Star~
If this ever gets into osu!mania Next to the Judgement Could be a + or a - (Plus or Minus) Just like the game Called "In The Groove"
This has been what I imagined last month. I wish that this is available.Aqo wrote:
I'd rather if hitbursts were removed altogether and instead of hitburst sprites, every time you click on an object, a simple text number would pop up right above it (in the same fashion as a hitburst, except it's just a text overlay) with the ms amount you hit off timing.
In other words seeing a lot of -1 ~ -72 values would tell you you're hitting too early, seeing 1~72 values means you're hitting too late, etc.
Those texts would be simply white text with a black 1px border (or "shadow", whatever you call it, basically an effect for the letters to stand out over bright background) and every time a new number appears the previous one would fade to black slightly more to make only the latest appearing number very clear to read for the case for fast streams.
This is a little different from OP's suggestion but, I believe, it accomplishes what he wanted in the best way.
This would be useful even with 300's. For example,Jarrod wrote:
Maybe the late/early hitbursts would work... and perhaps they could be colour coded or something like the hitbursts are?
also then pro's could still have 300's hidden because well, that's a perfect hit lol
1) If you are in the middle of a stream and you see the offset is increasing/decreasing, you can know you aren't following the bpm properly and you can adjust before you get a 100.
2) If you are playing low OD, you can know how "perfect" you are hitting the circles, thus you would improve you accuracy faster without needing to increase the OD.
bump for support. I think the idea of adding a slight green/red hue, with a more intensive hue the more inaccurate you are would be really neat. Perhaps add a new skinning element like accuracy-overlay or something to accommodate for such a feature where the hue would only be applied to the accuracy overlay?
This would affect the gameplay so no. Being able to notice if you are going too fast or too slow is skill itself.
ThisWishy wrote:
This would affect the gameplay so no. Being able to notice if you are going too fast or too slow is skill itself.
Of course it would help beginners but... i don't think this is right thing to implement.
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This would affect the gameplay so no. Being able to notice if you are going too fast or too slow is skill itself.Hit numbers already effect the gameplay in such a way too though and can be used as a scale of accuracy to determine whether you're hitting too slow or too fast. OP's idea just combines both ways fast/slow.
I think it would be better if it were an effect on hit.
Like, if you're hitting notes too early, a slight glow appears towards the bottom of the note you just hit but if you hit too late it appears towards the top and if you're hitting them on time the glow dissipates.
It could use multiple frames to glow around the whole border of the circle (so it would animate as you progress through a stream) in order to show varying of delay on hits.
Example of glow at the most earliest time you hit a note:
http://puu.sh/2NHaA.png (#4)
(It'd obviously be an additional skin element as my example is a bit blinding)
Could even just make it a simple additional border which uses a mask but I think a glow looks prettier. >-<
That would be a help, that would somehow change the gameplay, no support, as simple as that, being able to tell if you are late or early is skill.
I agree, that it would chance the gameplay, but that doesnt mean it shouldnt exist.
I would think of it more like a mod, as it is already been said, that it would make sense to make it toggleble.
Lets call it training mode, where you get more information and make it (with the mod) unrankable / or give it a 0.9 multiplier
maybe it is even a good addition to a possibly revamped easy mode..
i can imagine of other features for that mode.. like pressing a key to replay from 5 seconds b4 last miss (to replay a certain difficult pattern)
I would think of it more like a mod, as it is already been said, that it would make sense to make it toggleble.
Lets call it training mode, where you get more information and make it (with the mod) unrankable / or give it a 0.9 multiplier
maybe it is even a good addition to a possibly revamped easy mode..
toggles make peppy mad >:O
I think the whole "well you can listen to the hitsounds and compare that to the music" argument holds some truth but it falls a bit short. First of all, not to be rude, but osu falls miles short when it comes to syncing compared to other rhythm games; I doubt most people take into account drifting bpm's and most maps tend to over-quantize notes to the nearest 16th "snap." Not to mention that like 95% of maps labeled [hard] or higher are, by definition, over mapped since they contain hitsounds that don't necesarily go to anything in the music.
Also, adding such a feature wouldn't change what's required to play the map itself. Physically speaking, it doesn't make the map any easier to play. Also, everyone would be entitled to use such a feature so it wouldn't be unfair.
There is some validity to the position against this feature though. So if this can't get implemented for "during gameplay" use, I think this would be useful for viewing replays so you could go back and see what you were doing wrong.
Also, adding such a feature wouldn't change what's required to play the map itself. Physically speaking, it doesn't make the map any easier to play. Also, everyone would be entitled to use such a feature so it wouldn't be unfair.
There is some validity to the position against this feature though. So if this can't get implemented for "during gameplay" use, I think this would be useful for viewing replays so you could go back and see what you were doing wrong.
I think this feature is a nice idea, however it should be restricted to Replay and Spectator Mode only.
bingoOinari-sama wrote:
I think this feature is a nice idea, however it should be restricted to Replay and Spectator Mode only.
Cobra wrote:
bingoOinari-sama wrote:
I think this feature is a nice idea, however it should be restricted to Replay and Spectator Mode only.
Oinari-sama wrote:
I think this feature is a nice idea, however it should be restricted to Replay and Spectator Mode only.
yes i like this idea
but replay and spectator only ^
but replay and spectator only ^
This would be nice as an editor thing so ppl can get a general idea (for timing most likely) way faster than looking to the left and thinking about what the numbers actually mean during testplay
Otherwise it may turn into something that switches musical ear requirement with reading those numbersOinari-sama wrote:
I think this feature is a nice idea, however it should be restricted to Replay and Spectator Mode only.
This can be considered as added, right? This is now available as "Score Meter: Hit Error" in test build.
eh what really?! Damn you're tempting me to download the test build...Winshley wrote:
This can be considered as added, right? This is now available as "Score Meter: Hit Error" in test build.
I would wait for this feature to be published in the public release before marking this as added, but yeah, it is.
It reminds me that one like used in tap tap games
so please consider it
so please consider it
I wonder how am I gonna see that meter while focusing on the circles/sliders to be hit/stream/jumps.
To me, the arrow is still obvious enough even if it's far from the circles because it always move for each time you hit.ishimaru94 wrote:
I wonder how am I gonna see that meter while focusing on the circles/sliders to be hit/stream/jumps.
Looks nice hoho... this will be handy for confirming custom offsets on each map.
Well, at least for me, it will be the same way that I have learned to quick glance at my accuracy, combo, and the progress pieishimaru94 wrote:
I wonder how am I gonna see that meter while focusing on the circles/sliders to be hit/stream/jumps.