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Topic Starter
Tari
double post >< sorry
LunarSakuya
hey

General
- Change the Creator of the map to "Tari"
- In tags, change tari to "taris"

Normal
01:28:185 (1,4) - it'd be cool if you can stack these perfectly

Sinful Stars
00:36:781 (3) - try bringing this up to avoid overlaps at the tail http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/716253
00:41:332 (3,1) - Reverse this rhythm http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/716254, you can stack the new (3) on (4)
01:14:365 (2,3,4) - Equalize spacing within this combo http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/716255 didn't see a reason not to

Really nice! :)
feel free to call me back
UnitedWeSin
Sakuya

LunarSakuya wrote:

hey
Sinful Stars
00:36:781 (3) - try bringing this up to avoid overlaps at the tail http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/716253
I'm sorry I prefer the way it is because I feel that flow is as smooth as possible this way. It's not the best placement, but at least this way we don't come into the 3 at too sharp of an angle.

00:41:332 (3,1) - Reverse this rhythm http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/716254, you can stack the new (3) on (4)
I'd like to stick with my original intentions and keep the rhythm the way it is here. Not really following the vocals here, moreso the drum transition I think. I could go around changing things all over this map, but because my mapping style is completely different now, I feel it's best to leave as much the same as possible.

01:14:365 (2,3,4) - Equalize spacing within this combo http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/716255 didn't see a reason not to
I feel that the jump out of linear spacing into the 4 fits really nice with the vocals as they start again. I'm sorry I'd rather stick to original intentions there. I changed the slider 4 though.

Thank you for modding! C:

http://puu.sh/2Fjni.osu
Topic Starter
Tari
Yup, since many people say that, I add my new username to Map Creator and put my old username to tags, now it should be fine.

The stack in the normal diff is fixed now, and I added a Finish to Easy in end of this slider : 00:23:129 (2) - . A finish was also added in Hard at the end of this slider : 00:19:421 (4) - because it felt missing to me. Nothing else was changed

All diffs are now updated!
LunarSakuya
gl
UnitedWeSin
oo Gratz Tari! <3
Cobra
Go Tari! :D
Niva
Hi Tari, actually I wanted to rank this but Sinful Stars diff is missing a video orz:

SPOILER


Video,0,"video.avi"

(also I don't think the clap on Hard's 00:59:534 (2) isn't necessary because a clap - if you want to add one - should be on 00:59:871 instead xD)

Umm, sorry but I have to pop it for now >_<

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EDIT : All good now~ (I'm only sending this to rebubble state due to that unrankable missing video issue btw, however it's a good map and I feel it'll be ranked very soon by other BAT :3)

Good luck in the future Tari (:

Rebubbled ~
Topic Starter
Tari
Oh my.... I am going hurt you UWS.


Fixed it now!

and removed the clap as well.
UnitedWeSin
;_;
Nyquill
Tari
18:53 Nyquill: Hello, are you busy right now?
18:53 Tari: oh
18:54 Tari: yeah , I need to go soon, I won't be back till 1 hour :<
18:54 Nyquill: alright then, poke me when you're back
18:54 Nyquill: I'm about ready to rank your map, just need to touch up on some minor things
18:56 Tari: you'll be here still when I'm back correct?
18:56 Nyquill: most likely
18:56 Nyquill: unless a meteor falls on me
18:56 Tari: 2012 never happened
18:56 Tari: so your safe
18:56 Tari: lol
18:56 Nyquill: probably
18:56 Nyquill: or at least I hope
20:04 Tari: mkay
20:04 Tari: 1 sec
20:05 Tari: okqy
20:05 Tari: okay*
20:05 Nyquill: okay
20:06 Nyquill: one second
20:07 Nyquill: I changed when your title appears to the first break, is that okay?
20:08 Tari: yeah ~
20:08 Tari: You should also change the color of the text in the break too
20:08 Nyquill: I did
20:09 Tari: oh
20:09 Tari: Can you I see?
20:09 Nyquill: yes
20:09 Tari: Can I see*
20:09 Tari: bleh
20:09 *Nyquill is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/210164 nao - Kirihirake! Gracie*Star (Short Ver.) [Sinful Stars]]
20:09 Nyquill: wait, do you want a different colour?
20:10 Nyquill: you can see the new colour by playing the map
20:10 Tari: I trust you can come up with a nice color o3o
20:10 Nyquill: well its just fitting
20:10 Nyquill: for the video right now
20:10 Nyquill: haha
20:11 Tari: well
20:11 Nyquill: if you want different colours I can change that
20:11 Nyquill: I just changed it to something general until I could contact you
20:11 Tari: as long as it doesn't blend in too much with the video I'm fine with any color
20:12 Nyquill: it stands out perfectly fine with both bg and video
20:12 Nyquill: okay, a couple of things
20:12 Tari: yup its fine with me
20:14 Nyquill: open up hard
20:15 Nyquill: 00:16:051 (1) - This is the only time in the entire map where you used this 1/1 stack, I'd strongly suggest just spacing this out normally
20:16 Nyquill: because as it is its very inconsistent, and isn't even teaching the player any sort of pattern that might be useful for the rest of the map
20:16 Tari: I can do that , but its pretty readable
20:16 Nyquill: Well, its just for the sake of consistency
20:16 Nyquill: not really readability
20:16 Nyquill: anyone can read 1/1 stacks, but is it always fun to?
20:17 Nyquill: for the record I love 1/1 stacks, its just that if you're going to only ever use it once in a map it loses any sort of meaning it might carry
20:17 Nyquill: might as well not have it
20:17 Tari: ahh , It will require me to change the whole combo
20:20 Nyquill: http://puu.sh/2H9CY.jpg perhaps something like this? preserves distance snap and keeps the original slider in place
20:21 Nyquill: I mean the (1) slider
20:21 Tari: oh no
20:21 Nyquill: so it leads into the next combo without having to change the next combo
20:21 Tari: I did something different
20:21 Nyquill: whatever works for you
20:21 Tari: I like circle mouse movement
20:21 Nyquill: I do too
20:22 Nyquill: good practice to use in hards as well
20:22 Nyquill: keeps things easy
20:24 Tari: I have one more thing to ask you in hard
20:24 Nyquill: go ahead
20:25 Tari: In hard, I'm not so sure about this slider 01:23:972 (4) -
20:25 Tari: I feel it misses so many beats xD
20:26 Nyquill: ah
20:26 Nyquill: you mean the hitsounds
20:26 Tari: yeah
20:26 Tari: but it follows vocals fine
20:26 Nyquill: I honestly think thats perfectly fine
20:26 Nyquill: no one's going to go after you for a missing hitsound
20:27 Nyquill: maybe I would have once upon a time haha
20:27 Tari: yeah , I wanted to do tick rate 2
20:27 Tari: but
20:27 Tari: it would be much too extreme , at least for the insane diff
20:27 Nyquill: well
20:28 Nyquill: damn puush is down
20:29 Nyquill: oh wait no its just laggy
20:29 Nyquill: a nice compromise would be to remove a repeat and do something like http://puu.sh/2H9TY.jpg
20:29 Nyquill: but yeah a rhythm like that would keep your hitsounds
20:29 Nyquill: and follow the vocals at the same time
20:29 Tari: well , usually when I map
20:30 Tari: hitsounds fit everytime
20:30 Nyquill: yup
20:30 Tari: I don't intend to make hitsounds fit rhythm
20:30 Tari: I just map it and then do hitsounds
20:30 Nyquill: honestly I've never done that in my life haha
20:30 Nyquill: but I think I'm the odd one out rather than you
20:31 Tari: oh yeah , please double check the changes I made lol
20:31 Tari: just in case I missed something
20:31 Nyquill: Of course I will
20:31 Nyquill: its what I'm supposed to do
20:31 Nyquill: haha
20:32 Nyquill: (or I get backlash for it orz)
20:33 Tari: and
20:33 Tari: this slider too 01:13:523 (5) -
20:33 Tari: It follows vocals really well
20:33 Tari: but misses clap in-between slider
20:33 Nyquill: yeah
20:34 Nyquill: do you want to change it?
20:34 Tari: yeah
20:34 Tari: if its fine to change it
20:34 Nyquill: then I think the rhythm of the combo you just linked should be http://puu.sh/2Ha4r.txt
20:35 Nyquill: to follow the vocals while keeping hitsounds
20:35 Nyquill: crap
20:35 Nyquill: bad puush
20:35 Nyquill: http://puu.sh/2Ha5l.txt
20:35 Nyquill: ...
20:35 Nyquill: http://puu.sh/2Ha6b.jpg
20:35 Nyquill: I like how broken puush is right now
20:36 Tari: I did it like this
20:36 Tari: http://puu.sh/2Ha6U.jpg
20:36 Tari: I want note 6 to hit the vocal point
20:36 Nyquill: well 1/2 spam works too
20:36 Tari: well
20:36 Tari: I think thats the best fix , unless I change the previous notes
20:37 Nyquill: alright
20:37 Tari: oh yeah I need that puush link for this slider : 01:23:972 (4) -
20:38 Tari: whatever you came up with
20:38 Nyquill: For that slider
20:38 Nyquill: you can remove the repeat and add a note and another 1/1
20:38 Nyquill: http://puu.sh/2Haav.jpg
20:38 Nyquill: disregard the pattern, just look at the timeline
20:41 Nyquill: also, you didn't change that 1/1 stack yet
20:41 Tari: didn't update
20:41 Nyquill: oh
20:41 Nyquill: osu told me there was an update
20:41 *Nyquill slaps osu
20:42 Tari: still trying to make it work
20:42 Tari: I might need to change the whole pattern in this combo 01:23:129 (1) -
20:42 Tari: LOL
20:43 Nyquill: thats the thing about completely distance snapping hards
20:43 Nyquill: rofl
20:43 Tari: ORZ
20:47 Tari: k
20:47 Tari: hopefully this works
20:47 Tari: here some images
20:47 Tari: http://puu.sh/2HasV.jpg
20:47 Tari: http://puu.sh/2Hatj.jpg
20:48 Nyquill: that works
20:49 Tari: oh and
20:49 Tari: 01:17:062 (5) -
20:49 Tari: Clap should be there?
20:49 Tari: honestly there was no sound
20:49 Nyquill: yes
20:49 Tari: but just curious what you think
20:49 Nyquill: I think there is a clap there
20:49 Nyquill: I hear the snare there
20:49 Nyquill: the percussion track has a snare there
20:50 Nyquill: also, any particular reason why 01:17:399 (6) - can't be snapped?
20:50 Nyquill: http://puu.sh/2Hazf.jpg
20:51 Tari: oh yeah
20:51 Tari: all notes should be snapped
20:51 Tari: but
20:51 Tari: there that taiko error
20:51 Tari: where snap leads to missing taiko tick
20:51 Tari: whatevers its called
20:51 Tari: unless its that idk
20:52 Nyquill: I mean distance snapped
20:52 Tari: but snapped anyway
20:52 Tari: oh
20:52 Tari: sorry , I didn't quite understand
20:52 Nyquill: haha
20:53 Nyquill: 01:26:332 (2) - also I think you meant to bump it up one grid to get this stacked
20:53 Nyquill: /nazi
20:53 Nyquill: /shame
20:53 Tari: its fine actually
20:53 Tari: 1.02x spacing for both
20:54 Tari: Prev and Next
20:54 Tari: if I move it up the prev will be 1.01
20:54 Nyquill: are you talking about 01:17:062 (5,6) - 1.02x spacing?
20:55 Nyquill: because I see 1.13
20:55 Nyquill: oh you meant the other one
20:55 Tari: http://puu.sh/2HaI6.jpg
20:55 Tari: ?
20:55 Tari: o.O
20:55 Nyquill: I'm talking about the previous
20:55 Nyquill: 01:17:062 (5,6) -
20:55 Nyquill: but anyways, .01 isn't going to madde
20:55 Nyquill: matter*
20:56 Nyquill: then again, 1 grid isn't either
20:56 Tari: what , I am confused
20:56 Nyquill: confused about?
20:56 Tari: you linked me to 01:26:332 (2) -
20:56 Tari: and said that was spacing issue
20:56 Tari: then change items o.o
20:56 Nyquill: no, I didn't say that was a spacing issue
20:57 Nyquill: its just not stacked
20:57 Nyquill: not stacked with 01:25:152 (6) -
20:57 Nyquill: but it doesn't matter
20:57 Tari: oh
20:58 Nyquill: anyways
20:58 Nyquill: are you done with all the changes in hard?
20:59 Tari: yeah
20:59 Nyquill: just one completely opinionated suggestion in insane then
20:59 Tari: wait let me update just in case lol
20:59 Nyquill: alright
21:01 Tari: k
21:01 Tari: ready
21:01 Nyquill: so the last note in insane, 01:35:770 (1) - I feel that the placement of this should be made more snappy as opposed to just repeating the same back and forth movement to finish off
21:01 Nyquill: so the last note in insane, 01:35:770 (1) - I feel that the placement of this should be made more snappy as opposed to just repeating the same back and forth movement to finish off
21:01 Nyquill: one sec let me show you what I mean
21:02 Nyquill: http://puu.sh/2HaVJ.jpg
21:02 Nyquill: completely my opinion, because it feels cool if you finish off with a very snappy jump
21:02 Tari: uh
21:03 Nyquill: because at the end of the map, your cursor is still going to be moving from the last note because of the snap
21:03 Nyquill: so it feels awesome d(o_o)b
21:03 Nyquill: just my opinion haha
21:03 Nyquill: anyways, if you don't want to do that its up to you
21:04 Tari: I don't know that cursor movement is suppose to be reflective
21:04 Tari: like in hard
21:04 Tari: but I'd like to keep it
21:04 Nyquill: osu is a very organic game, promoting freedom of movement to keep the game interesting
21:05 Nyquill: but if thats how you feel, then I wont stop you
21:05 Nyquill: its just my opinioni
21:05 Nyquill: opinion*
21:05 Tari: and UWS isn't on right now
21:05 Tari: :<
21:05 Nyquill: sadly
21:06 Nyquill: I half feel like UWS would agree
21:06 Nyquill: but maybe not
21:07 Tari: hmm
21:07 Tari: give me one sec to think about this
21:07 Nyquill: do you know when UWS would get on?
21:07 Tari: uh
21:07 Tari: not really
21:08 Tari: she's not online in-game ,
21:10 Nyquill: do you want to wait for her opinion?
21:10 Tari: I don't know
21:10 Nyquill: haha its okay
21:10 Tari: cause
21:10 Tari: this map would of been ranked , but there was missing video in her diff
21:10 Tari: so yeah
21:11 Tari: its kinda both of us to blame for that
21:11 Nyquill: well thats on the ranking side
21:11 Nyquill: but theres always things to be done to improve the map
21:11 Nyquill: if you really don't want to wait anymore, then I'll rank it right here right now
21:12 Tari: hmm
21:12 Tari: I've decided
21:12 Tari: to keep it
21:12 Nyquill: your call~
21:13 Tari: WAIT
21:13 Nyquill: hahaha
21:13 Nyquill: really if you don't want to wait anymore then its fine, its just a map
21:13 Nyquill: you're sure to get many more ranked
21:13 Nyquill: but if you really want to make your map the best it can be
21:13 Nyquill: who knows? maybe UWS wouldn't even agree with me
21:14 Nyquill: and this would be a waste of time
21:14 Tari: well
21:14 Tari: says she's online in site
21:15 Tari: so give me one sec lol
21:15 Nyquill: alright
21:15 Tari: I like to take in everyone consideration
21:17 Tari: honestly , do you strongly agree that should be changed
21:18 Nyquill: Well
21:18 Nyquill: I think it makes the ending very memorable
21:18 Nyquill: but its not necessary
21:18 Nyquill: if she gets on though, I would also like to ask her to change some stacks as a favor to HDHR players orz
21:18 Nyquill: haha
21:20 Tari: yeah , It would have been much better if UWS was on
21:21 Nyquill: her map is actually extrmely fun on HDHR
21:21 Nyquill: and many HDHR players will appreciate it greatly
21:21 Nyquill: trust me when I say that the most prevalent scores on this diff will be HDHR scores
21:24 Tari: now
21:24 Tari: you can check to UWS
21:24 Tari: talk to UWS*
21:24 Tari: I need to relog , don't mind me
UWS
21:24 Nyquill: hello!
21:24 UnitedWeSin: hi :3
21:24 *Nyquill is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/210164 nao - Kirihirake! Gracie*Star (Short Ver.) [Sinful Stars]]
21:25 Nyquill: you have a very cool diffuculty here
21:25 Nyquill: I just want to pop one or two very quick suggestions
21:25 UnitedWeSin: oh, thank you :D
21:26 UnitedWeSin: i mapped this so long ago ><
21:26 Nyquill: I think the last note 01:35:770 (1) would be much more memorable if you made it more snappy than it is now, something similar to http://puu.sh/2HaVJ.jpg
21:26 UnitedWeSin: lol
21:26 Nyquill: 01:35:770 (1) -
21:26 Nyquill: yeah I can tell
21:26 Nyquill: its still a very cool map
21:27 Nyquill: and really fun on HDHR
21:28 Nyquill: 01:26:669 (2,4) - secondly, I would personally suggest unstacking these as a favor to HR players since reading 1/2 stacks on hr are quite honestly the most diffuclt thing about it, but its up to you since its a design choice
21:28 Nyquill: 01:26:669 (2,4) - secondly, I would personally suggest unstacking these as a favor to HR players since reading 1/2 stacks on hr are quite honestly the most diffuclt thing about it, but its up to you since its a design choice
21:29 Nyquill: thats it!
21:29 UnitedWeSin: ha
21:31 UnitedWeSin: hmm
21:36 UnitedWeSin: for the first suggestion, i sort of prefer the jump downwards
21:36 UnitedWeSin: instead of to the right
21:36 Nyquill: alright
21:37 Nyquill: I simply felt that the change in directioin forced the player to jump that note very fast, leaving a more significant impression as the map ends
21:37 Nyquill: but thats just my opinion
21:38 Nyquill: direction* I can't type tonight for my life
21:43 UnitedWeSin: :D
21:43 UnitedWeSin: I guess I can unstack
21:43 UnitedWeSin: no sure though wanna test?
21:43 Nyquill: sure
21:43 Nyquill: push the update?
21:43 UnitedWeSin: yea sec
21:44 UnitedWeSin: http://puu.sh/2Hcf7.osu
21:44 Nyquill: puush is down for me wat
21:44 Nyquill: rofl
21:44 UnitedWeSin: :D originally those were unstacked
21:44 UnitedWeSin: a mod suggested them to be stacked
21:44 UnitedWeSin: idk
21:44 UnitedWeSin: maybe I have old version lemme check
21:45 Nyquill: its okay
21:45 Nyquill: I got it
21:47 Nyquill: beautiful
21:47 UnitedWeSin: =w=
Topic Starter
Tari
After much discussion , map went through some changes (specifically Hard and Sinful Stars diff)

Removed (Short Ver.) from title also.

Updated!
Nyquill
We went ahead and changed the title to remove the short ver. But since that wasn't an unrankable issue and only a guideline, I am free to rank this.

And.

I will.

~

Excellent, EXCELLENT insane by UWS, as well as an amazing set to go with it. Good job to you both! Congratulations on your first rank tari!
NewRulerNA
gratz!!
UnitedWeSin
Tari sugoi! :3
Gratz!!
Lanturn
About time the best nao song outside of fripSide/DG got ranked. I've been addicted to this song ever since I heard it a year ago, and this mapset is wonderful. Grats Tari, and another amazing job UWS!

This map has earned one of my rare favorites. :)
Sonnyc
Gratz Tari~~~~~
jonathanlfj
gg Tari for first rank
and UWS amazing as always~
gratz for the rank!
creampuff
congratz~~
Topic Starter
Tari
Thanks everyone~
ychao
Gratz on first rank, Tari!

About time, I would say~
Broccoly
very very congratulation lol
LunarSakuya
Congrats!!

I was sure I mentioned the video...
KuroSaber
Awesome Song... Thanks for making it
Shigoto
good map with HR / HD :)
Virgo
Nice map
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