1. Insane (4.65 stars, 720 notes)
2. Millhiore's Hard (2.93 stars, 461 notes)
3. Normal (1.81 stars, 270 notes)

CXu wrote:

Filesize: 6666kb

Kei wrote:

Uhmmmmm.. I got a bit confused at some parts such as the slowdown at the second kiai iirc and specially at the end of the song. Idk why exactly, i felt the spacing a bit too much, since you were using less spacing for streams and then all of a sudden that spaced stream. Spaced stream? Do you mean the square at the end? Also, I'm not sure what you mean about slowdown at the second kiai.

*Hmmm.. I suggest you to use 03:17:878 (8) at 00:19:293 (1) and then use 00:19:293 (1) at (8)'s location. In conclusion my suggestion is to swap them. They would fit much more with the music like that. When i played the diff it felt weird and i noticed this detail. 03:17:878 (8) wiggle doesnt fit with the vocals, nor does the simple curved slider fit the guitar sound at 00:19:293 (1). The best option is to swap them imo, try it. I moved the wiggly slider to the start, but the circly slider doesn't really fit the silent bit. I put another one there instead.

Ah something else, I highly recommend you to try another better shape for 02:24:953 (5). It looks ugly to be honest and the shape doesn't fit with the music imo. Tried something different

*The inconsistency of repeats in 1/2 sliders confused me a bit. You used different amount of repeats for 1/2 sliders and sometimes i wasn't sure of how much repeats would a 1/2 slider have, if 4 repeats like some previous sliders or suddenly 1 (<- that is obviously an example :>). Some of your 1/2 sliders made boring some parts, for example at 00:43:349 (2). Too many repeats for a calm part imo, it was boring for me to wait for the slider to end. Most of the sliders now have 3 repeats (if not, you should be able to tell)

*You made some overlapped patterns like at 01:24:387 (5,6,7). These look and play bad imo. Try to make a better looking pattern with them and improve the flow. Perhaps try this for this pattern http://puu.sh/2rkzE or something like that. Something more spread out and more comfortable to play. :3 Killed off the overlaps, I like the pattern though so I didn't change it much

*I remember this note from the testplay 00:31:179 (4). It felt weird positioned like that. I suggest you to move it a tad down, over here if possible, i think it flows better like that http://puu.sh/2rkDI. Done, it was this way but I changed it because Silynn, blame him >>

*I felt some streams very unnecesary, like at 03:29:481 (1,2,3,4). 03:29:623 (2,4) aren't that necessary imo. I don't hear any important beat at their ubication. This is a Hard diff, not a insane. You don't need streamy patterns like this if they aren't even necessary. 02:25:944 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) this one is a bit too much too imo, leave this kind of streams for the insane diff. I suggest you this rhythm instead, it's more easy and better for a insane imo http://puu.sh/2rkPE (or try something similar you would like to make instead of the current rhythm ) No change (well, I removed a single note in a stream because it felt bad) Normally I'd agree with you, but the actual Insane on this map has much harder patterns than that, so I think they're fine.

Uhhh i think i didn't forgot anything important. The thread has 4 posts only so it's obvious this needs mods to improve it has potential, the hitsounds are good but some patterns can be better~ Yeah thanks for playing at all, you're one of the first!

Replay file: http://puu.sh/2rkYf

Leorda wrote:

[Millhiore's Hard]
* Add "MillhioreF" into tags for consistency on each diff Not sure how I missed that, fixed

00:51:840 (6) - Add clap? done
01:13:491 (2,3) - Move 1 grid left for make it parallel (nazi) done
01:16:887 (2) - Move 1 grid down to make spacing looks equal (nazi) Adjusted it slightly
01:50:991 (5) - New combo? Sure, why not
02:07:972 (1,2) - Swap new combo? Not sure what you mean, no change
02:23:538 (2) - Add clap at head slider? done
02:40:236 (3) - 1/4 repeating slider isn't fit to the song, IMO Tried something different
03:55:944 (4) - Unsnapped object Whoops, fixed an sv problem and forgot to change this slider x.x all better now


That's all I got orz

• • Set the same audio lead-in in all diffs.

• • This is a Normal so why HP and OD 2? Increase them a little. (try HP 4, AR 5 and OD4)
  • 00:19:151 (1) - Start this spinner 1/2 later.
  • 00:36:274 (1) - I don't like this slider, try to make a simple ~.
  
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  • 03:05:425 (4,1) - I know that this is a Normal but this is also the easier diff so avoid 1/2 patterns like this one, try this:
  
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  • 03:24:953 (4) - Uh, is this a 5? lol, try this:
  
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• • HP 6 and AR 7 to make these settings balanced with the other 2.
  • 00:18:161 (5) - Add a clap on both start and end.
  • 00:30:472 (3) - End this slider 1/2 earlier.
  • 00:31:321 (5) - End this slider 1/2 earlier and add a repeat.
  • 00:35:142 (2,3) - Add some claps/whistles, right now these sliders are "empty".
  • 00:36:132 (x) - Add a circle.
  • 00:41:934 (7) - Remove 1 repeat and move this slider 1/1 later, then add a circle at 00:41:934.
  • 00:46:604 (x) - Add a circle.
  • 01:06:000 (break) - Why this break? Remove it and map this little part.
  • 02:03:444 (5) - Don't overlap these sliders, they're ugly to see.
  • 02:09:104 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try this pattern:
  
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  • 02:16:000 (break) - Same as 01:06:000.
  • 03:02:585 (x) - Add a circle.
  • 03:17:878 (8) - End this slider 1/1 later.

• • 00:18:161 (1,2,3,4) - Why these sliders end on a blue tick? End them 1/4 earlier or try this:
  
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  • 00:54:387 (1) - Same thing here, end this slider 1/4 earlier.
  • 01:26:651 (1,1,1,1) - Why? I really don't like this pattern, keep following the drums.
  • 01:36:557 (1,2,3) - End these sliders 1/2 earlier, seriously why these patterns? The end don't follow anything.
  • 02:36:840 (1,1,1,1) - Same as 01:26:651.
  • 02:45:047 (3) - End this slider 1/4 earlier.
  • 02:46:745 (1,2,3) - ^

xxheroxx wrote:

Mod Infos:

• Suggestion.
• You should fix this.
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General

• • Set the same audio lead-in in all diffs. - Ops.

Normal

• • This is a Normal so why HP and OD 2? Increase them a little. (try HP 4, AR 5 and OD4) - Hahaha, this was originally an [Easy], but I changed a few stuff and renamed it normal when I moved this diff here, but forgot to fix diff settings Done!
  • 00:19:151 (1) - Start this spinner 1/2 later. - Oh yeah, ok.
  • 00:36:274 (1) - I don't like this slider, try to make a simple ~. - Sure.
  
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  • 03:05:425 (4,1) - I know that this is a Normal but this is also the easier diff so avoid 1/2 patterns like this one, try this: - Okay, done.
  
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  • 03:24:953 (4) - Uh, is this a 5? lol, try this: - I honestly have no idea what it is. Changed.
  
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Insane

• • 00:18:161 (1,2,3,4) - Why these sliders end on a blue tick? End them 1/4 earlier or try this: - I'm trying to follow the guitar here, and to me, it sounds like one continuous sound going from (1) all the way to (2) where the guitar is played again, and then the sound goes all the way to (3) and so forth. Of course, I can't place a sliderend beneath another sliderhead, so this is the closest I can emulate an effect of having to hold all the way till the next note without feeling too weird.
  
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  • 00:54:387 (1) - Same thing here, end this slider 1/4 earlier. - Same as above, the next sliders follow the drums, but this slider uses the guitar to kind of carry over from one part of the song to another.
  • 01:26:651 (1,1,1,1) - Why? I really don't like this pattern, keep following the drums. - It's more a personal preference thing and that it was something I wanted to try to do. I think it fits well enough as it follows how the vocals go faster in this section. Of course, I'm wlling to change this if it happens to be, well, very bad, but from the earlier mods I got on this, it didn't seem to cause too much of a problem, so I'd like to keep it for now.
  • 01:36:557 (1,2,3) - End these sliders 1/2 earlier, seriously why these patterns? The end don't follow anything. - Well yeah the ends don't follow anything, which is why they're silenced. Again it's to give the effect of having to hold down the note all the way till the next time you have to hit it. The vocals actually don't stop at 1/2's, and they're following the vocals.
  • 02:36:840 (1,1,1,1) - Same as 01:26:651. - Same response.
  • 02:45:047 (3) - End this slider 1/4 earlier. - I agree with this one. Changed (as well as 01:34:859 (8) -
  • 02:46:745 (1,2,3) - ^ - Same as before

Insane is really nice but maybe it's a bit too hard compared to Millhiore's Hard, meh. - Haha, maybe. I'll talk with Millhi about it

xxheroxx wrote:

Millhiore's Hard

• • HP 6 and AR 7 to make these settings balanced with the other 2. Done (I prefer AR8 but 7 seems fine too, and maybe a bit friendlier to less-experienced players?)
  • 00:18:161 (5) - Add a clap on both start and end. Done
  • 00:30:472 (3) - End this slider 1/2 earlier. This sounds pretty nice, sure
  • 00:31:321 (5) - End this slider 1/2 earlier and add a repeat. Not so sure about this one, but changed it for now, let's see what other people think.
  • 00:35:142 (2,3) - Add some claps/whistles, right now these sliders are "empty". Whoops, these were a last-second addition and I forgot to hitsound them orz
  • 00:36:132 (x) - Add a circle. Sure
  • 00:41:934 (7) - Remove 1 repeat and move this slider 1/1 later, then add a circle at 00:41:934. Thanks, that part always felt a little off to me but I couldn't fix it satisfactorily!
  • 00:46:604 (x) - Add a circle. Sounds great, but feels odd to play... added, though.
  • 01:06:000 (break) - Why this break? Remove it and map this little part. This is hard to map IMO, but I tried something
  • 02:03:444 (5) - Don't overlap these sliders, they're ugly to see. Good point, fixed
  • 02:09:104 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try this pattern:
  
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  Completely redid that part
  • 02:16:000 (break) - Same as 01:06:000. Same comment too!
  • 03:02:585 (x) - Add a circle. Done (you meant 03:01:585 (x), right?)
  • 03:17:878 (8) - End this slider 1/1 later. I'm on the fence about this one, might as well change it though

Insane is really nice but maybe it's a bit too hard compared to Millhiore's Hard, meh. Yeah I thought so too, my Hard is maybe a bit easier than most Hards because of the BPM. An intermediate difficulty would be a bit excessive though, so I'm not sure what to do here.

apaffy wrote:

Millhiore's Hard

*This diff plays a lot better with AR8 imo, especially with all the doubles and singles under sliders you're doing. Yay, I was looking for a reason to put it back \:D/
*Why are you using beat snap of 1/2? 1/4 would fit perfectly here. It's particularly odd because CXu went with 1/4. The difficulty isn't hard enough to warrant any 212BPM streams.

00:11:368 (2,3,4) - Shouldn't this start on the proceeding red tick? The way it is right now the 3 is hitting the beat and it plays awkwardly. Sounds fine to me. If anything I might remove the (4), but I feel it plays better with it.
00:41:793 (6,7) - What is this double doing? The 6 hits a drum kick but the 7 is on complete silence. There's nothing in vocals there to suggest it needs an accent either. I don't know what I was thinking, (7) is gone now
00:43:066 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2) - Seems like you're going back and forth between mapping the beat and the vocals here, and it just feels weird. Ehh, I like it there, it plays much better than any mapping I can think of to one or the other.
00:52:123 (1,2,3) - Personally, I would make these sliders, or follow the beat here. I don't know what these notes are doing. Two is on complete silence vocals aside, so if you're going to try and follow the vocals sliders would work a lot better here. I don't agree that the notes are bad, but I made some cool sliders that play better so hey.
01:07:123 (5) - I would yank this note and just extend the previous slider. Plays kind of weird to me. No thank you, I see where you're coming from but it feels wrong IMO.
01:08:538 (3) - Slider velocity speeds up here and it jolted & surprised me a little bit. I don't think 1.20x is really necessary but it's playable enough. Ehh, you're kinda right, but I really don't wanna remap the whole kiai ._. It's pretty playable, so I think it's fine.
01:09:104 (4,5,6) - There's the weird off beat vocal emphasis again. I'd replace with sliders or follow the beat here, but it's really awkward to slow down to hit those here. You could maybe try spacing them more too. That might work as well. Spacing is cool
01:29:198 (1,2,3) - Flow is kind of bad here. It's fine as is
01:50:991 (1,2,3,4) - I don't understand what's going on here. You've got half a tick of silence in between 1 & 2 where there's clearly vocals going through 1 - 3. Maybe replace with one slider? Or something like this (I just threw it in there, improve the spacing)? Changed the spacing and added a repeat, happy?
02:09:104 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I don't really like this pattern (sorry xxheroxx D:), it feels choppy going from a couple sliders to all of a sudden ten singles in a row practically. I didn't either, so now it is not what it was
02:28:208 - There's a vocal note here. I don't understand what parts you're mapping sometimes. You leave off some emphasis from the vocal track when you shouldn't D: Wow, this one is entirely my mistake. Boy, is my face red.
02:41:651 - It would match the vocals better if you ended this slider right here. I guess so, changed it up
02:45:330 (1) - This spinner is so short (just barely over one second) I would just replace with a slider here. My slider is now neat
03:09:104 (1) - Another short spinner. I would just leave it silent and hit the emphasis at 03:10:236 - with a single or something. Nah, I like this one a lot
03:38:538 (1) - Another short spinner.Honestly I would just remove all these one second spinners and replace them with something else like a slider or two. Kind of like what you did at 03:43:066 (1) - which could have been a spinner, but instead you made a really nice slider there. I've gotten better at nice sliders now, so why the hell not \‌:‌‌‌D/
03:47:736 (1,1,1) - This is just weird. I would make it one spinner rather then breaking it up with a single note (or don't use a spinner at all). I don't really want a megaspinner, but that is just strange, I agree. I extended the first spinner to where the note was and replaced the second with a break.

that was all I really saw that I would do differently; i tried, feel free to ignore any or all of them

yurunneram wrote:

Hard

00:41:934 (7) - Delete It's mapped to the drum in the background
00:49:859 (1,3) - Take away a repeat for each Your suggestion doesn't work well, but I didn't like the pattern anyway so I remapped it (inb4 bad)
00:54:529 (2) - Delete It plays more fluidly with this note here, but on closer listening it's not really mapped to anything... eeeeeh I'll get rid of it.
01:18:585 (7) - I think the jumps a bit too crazy but oh well You don't have to slide all the way. Besides, it's a bit easy for a modern Hard as is
01:21:557 (6) - Change to a slider ...but it is a slider?
01:27:642 (5) - Same as 01:18:585 (7) Same as 01:18:585 (7)
02:06:840 (1,2) - Sounds weird Remapped for the 4th time. Man, this part (at least it has cool blanketing now)
02:23:821 (3,4,5,6) - Make a nicer shape with the circles Okay!

I loved hard. :3 Good job Thanks a bunch~

yurunneram wrote:

Normal

00:18:727 (4,5) - Comb into a slider? - Fine imo.
02:40:802 (1) - You can hardly tell there's a bend in this slider. Change it - What? xD

Loli Cjj wrote:

You're right, CXu. You're right about that confusing part. - Heh, well, they were easier to read when the slidertick actually showed up together with the slider, instead of later. Still probably hard to read, yeah. I kind of like them overall though, so I'm a bit reluctant to change them for now.

=Normal=
1. 00:36:274 (1) - Hey hey, this shape is weird. - Tried to smooth it out a bit
2. 01:21:557 (4) - Well . . . since we have a new way to create a symmetric curve. . . why don't you use that? - I did map this before that existed Fixed.
3. 01:35:142 (3) - orz what is this shape, at least make it better D: http://puu.sh/2YH5Q.jpg like this - Fixed a bit. Probably not 100% symmetrical, but that should be fine.
4. 01:59:198 (1,2,3) - The shape is cute, I like how it came up to be a straight line. However, I don't like how the (1) direction a bit forced to (2). I changed (1) start point and I think it looks better. http://puu.sh/2YHaA.jpgIt - Agreed, rotated it up a bit.
5. 02:36:840 (1) - When creating a S-shape slider, at least try to make it with red point. That way, you can create symmetric slider easier. It's also nicer. http://puu.sh/2YHlv.jpg - Fairly sure I never intended these sliders to be symmetrical, but I'll touch it up a bit.
6. 03:01:179 (1) - The second curve is short but it has high curve (idk how to say it duh). This is, imo, bad. Creating same length for both section isn't that bad. Also, I expect that 03:02:595 (2) - is following (1)'s second curve lol. Here's what I've done. http://puu.sh/2YHoQ.jpg - Smoothed out the 2nd curve a bit. I want the curves to be different in length. (2) is following the 2nd curve fairly well imo.
7. 03:30:047 (1) - red dot 1grid tiny up? - Sure
8. 03:32:594 (1,2,3) - How about this? Better flow imo. http://puu.sh/2YHRb.jpg - Made the 2 parts more even, but your suggestion would break spacing, and I wanna avoid that.
9. 03:35:707 (3) - Straight seems to plain. Add a catmull-like flow, maybe? http://puu.sh/2YHUf.jpg - Why not

Lol a lot of nazi mod - Haha, nah, they were helpfull really!

=Insane=
1. 01:38:963 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'm not sure people will recognize this pattern that fast. - Speccing people playing, I haven't really noticed people having any problem with this pattern, so I think it's probably all right.
2. 02:23:113 (8,1) - Spacing too big and bad placement for (8) if you want to put (1) there. At least put it where it can create a circle-like flow when combined with later notes. - Heh, I've always played this part fine when I play the map myself, but yeah the jump might be a bit big here. I've changed it so that (8) creates a curve towards (1) now. Hopefully better.
3. 02:26:510 (2) - When I test it again, I don't recognize this. Maybe stacking it under slider is bad, but I think it's okay. I'm not sure, though. - Well, I do agree it's probably one of the harder notes to read, but I don't think it's too hard for the overall difficulty of this map, so I'll be keeping it for now. If more people complain I might change this though.
4. 02:33:444 (1,2,3,4,5) - Imperfect star-shape. It is? xD
5. 03:08:821 (4,5) - With default hitsound, maybe it would be better if (4) applied with normal-hitnormal and (5) with soft-hitclap. The same thing goes with 03:08:255 (2) - but make sure you put it on the right timing. Volume 60% so the clap is more audible. - Tried, but I prefer the current hitsounds tbh.

Remember that most of my mod is suggestion.
Good luck