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daniwellP - Kotobatoraborato

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Azure
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Azure
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年5月12日 at 下午 07:41:02

Artist: daniwellP
Title: Kotobatoraborato
Source: vocaloid
Tags: neko cute Nyan cat
BPM: 144
Filesize: 3636kb
Play Time: 01:43
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.26 stars, 96 notes)
  2. Hard (4.78 stars, 252 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 305 notes)
  4. Normal (3.94 stars, 131 notes)
Download: daniwellP - Kotobatoraborato
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「コトバトラボラト」
　　 唄：daniwellP feat. 初音ミク

Easy - me
Normal - me
Hard - me
Insane - me
Lyrics SB - me
Last edited by Azure , edited 11 times in total.
Nemis
847 posts
Joined May 2012
Nemis
[General]
You need a Normal, Hard is really harder than Easy...
You should change the source from "vocaloid" to "Vocaloid" I think.
You should add Nico Nico Douga in the tags MAYBE.

[Easy]
00:07:265 (1) - Move it 3 squares up and 1 to right in the grid
00:29:348 (3) - Make it adherent with 00:31:431 (4) -
00:38:931 (2) - Move it 1 square up and 1 to left in the grid
00:44:348 (2) - Make it adherent with 00:43:515 (4) -
00:50:598 (1) - New combo
00:53:098 (1) - Remove new combo
00:53:931 (2) - New combo
01:12:265 (4) - Move it 2 squares down and 2 to right
01:13:931 (6) - Make it adherent with 01:12:265 (4) - if you did this ^ change
01:28:723 (10) - This isn't easy
01:39:348 (4) - New combo
01:40:598 (1) - Remvoe new combo
01:42:265 (3) - New combo

[Hard]
HP 5, AR 6. You should change a lot of beats in sliders, this diff has got too many singletaps!
00:17:265 (5) - New combo
00:17:890 (1) - Remove new combo
00:19:140 (5) - You should put a note here... so change 00:18:931 (5,6) - if you can
00:30:598 (3) - Make it more adherent with 00:30:181 (2) -
00:32:056 (1,2,3,4,5) - Insanity lol
00:35:806 (4) - You should put a note here... so change 00:35:806 (4,5) - if you can
00:48:514 (5,6,1,2) - I don't like these beats that much... you shouldn't stack 00:48:514 (5,6) -
00:52:265 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Insanity
00:55:181 (3) - You should map it like the claps (so one beat and a triple)
01:04:556 (9,10,1,2,3) - Insanity and I don't like it
01:06:223 (5,6,7,8,1,2) - This pattern is insane too... the movement is okay but a singletap + a stream (this triple 01:07:056 (1,2,3) - ) is insane. You could make a slider with 01:06:431 (6,7) -
01:09:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Insanity
01:36:848 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:41:431 (1,2,3,4) - Sincerly I don't like this SV change so much

[Insane]
00:12:056 (1,2,3) - This isn't so good, if you play it maybe you can't see it ('cause 00:11:015 (5,6,7) - is overlayed)
00:24:764 (3,4) - Why triples?
00:37:993 (2,3) - Distance it more from 00:37:264 (1) -
00:38:723 (4,5,6) - Here a stack isn't bad
00:43:931 (1) - I don't like this so much
00:47:265 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You should make the sliders adherent with the notes
00:49:973 (4,5,6) - This seems a triple
00:53:931 (1,2,3) - This is okay
00:55:181 (4,5,6,7,8) - You should map it like the claps (so one beat and a triple)
01:04:973 (6,7,8) - This seems a triple
01:25:181 (7,8) - CTRL+G please...
01:25:181 (7,8) - This seems a triple
01:38:931 (1) - I don't like this so much
01:41:431 (7,8,1) - Sincerly I don't like this SV change so much #2
01:43:098 (3) - 2 squares down and 1 to right in the grid
01:43:514 (4,5,6,7,8) - You should map it like the claps (so one beat and a triple)
sunshy_old
141 posts
Joined July 2012
sunshy_old
图做的很好..看不出什么o.o

全部nazi

[Easy]
· 没开DS做吗?一般EZ和NM都要求开DS做的o.o 嘛这样应该也行
· 一般cb一组不超过3、4个 所以类似00:17:265 (4) - 、01:05:598 (5) - 、01:05:598 (5) - 这种地方最好nc一下
· 01:28:723 (9,10) - 别加梗了

[Hard]
· AR-1?
· 00:40:598 (1,2,3,4,5) - 其实我觉得这种曲调重复的地方摆个对称应该不错..
· 00:54:973 (2) - 删
· 00:55:181 (2) - 这么下音效的话1note+2折滑条是不是好一些o.o
· 01:20:390 (3,4) - 感觉短滑条并没有普通5连效果好呐

[Insane]
· 00:55:181 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这么下音效有点迷惑性
· 01:43:514 (4,5,6,7,8) - ↑

瞎了Azure又要rank神图
1st shoot GL\o.o baka
indyinyou
887 posts
Joined June 2009
indyinyou
hi

[easy]

00:39:348 : try this silder retrun at 00:39:765 end 00:40:181

[Insane]

01:14:140 : add whistle
01:14:556 : ^
01:14:973 : ^
01:24:140 : ^
01:24:556 : ^
01:24:973 : ^

they're just suggestions

nice map&song xD star
Azure
771 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Azure
Thanks guys
I fixed some of them :D
popner
osu! Alumni
2,407 posts
Joined March 2011
popner
irc modded

chat log
11:32 popner: hi
11:32 popner: irc mod ok?
11:32 Azure: hello
11:33 Azure: 我?
11:33 popner: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/205497 daniwellP - Kotobatoraborato [Insane]]
11:33 Azure: ok 0.0
11:34 popner: 先说。。这个I你有没有remap的打算？
11:34 Azure: 如果需要的話..
11:35 popner: 因为全程基本是用比较小的space摆的
11:35 popner: 而这个歌却是比较轻飘飘的感觉
11:35 Azure: 嗯
11:36 popner: 所以感觉排版比较挤
11:36 popner: 你可以看看我做的那个daniwellP的
11:36 popner: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/193532 daniwellP - Metamoru]
11:37 popner: 虽然不算什么好图，不过我觉得打得时候有比较飘的感觉
11:37 Azure: 不同的境界啊 (掩面
11:38 popner: 然后这个图
11:38 popner: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/148125 Hatsune Miku - Schrodinger's Kitten]
11:38 Azure: 排列的關係嗎
11:39 popner: 一个是ds有点偏小，另一个是没有什么跳
11:39 Azure: 嗯
11:39 popner: 然后整个排版就变成挤在中间了，你ctrl+a看看
11:40 Azure: 哦!!
11:40 popner: 薛定谔小猫那张图，我个人认为比较神的一点是，他用的滑条很简单却给人一种猫的感觉
11:41 popner: 有点像猫爪在抓
11:41 popner: 另外排版比较松散
11:41 Azure: 嗯
11:41 popner: 当然不是说你现在这样不行
11:42 Azure: 只是沒有那個味道
11:42 popner: 我觉得有点不够把歌曲完全表现出来
11:42 popner: 嗯
11:42 Azure: 可是我不知道哪裡能跳..
11:44 popner: 可以考虑用1.3x的ds，如果你想re的话
11:45 popner: 跳可以在滑条结束后放
11:46 popner: 00:14:764 (3,4) - 比如这里
11:46 Azure: 唔
11:46 popner: 两个滑条实际上节奏是全note的一半了
11:46 popner: 所以放个跳来弥补节奏的变疏
11:47 Azure: 嗯
11:47 popner: 00:22:264 (5,6,7) -
11:47 popner: 中间的那个note前后都可以跳
11:48 popner: 因为折返滑条也是相当疏的节奏
11:48 Azure: 嗯
11:49 popner: 总之把滑条当成开始点的note，然后比较空的地方用跳来弥补
11:50 popner: 这样整体的flow就能变好
11:50 Azure: 嗯
11:52 popner: 排版的话，尽量把一些note摆到靠边的位置，这样移动的范围就比较开阔
11:52 popner: 按wcx的说法就是图看起来比较大气
11:52 Azure: 哦~
11:52 popner: 包括四个角也是
11:53 Azure: remap的話可以只動排列嗎....
11:53 popner: 嗯
11:53 popner: 我觉得节奏没什么问题
11:54 Azure: 好
11:54 popner: 00:55:181 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这里，只有三连摆五连有些生硬
11:55 popner: 节奏和排列也要配合音效
11:55 Azure: 嗯
11:56 popner: 01:18:931 (1) - 这样的slider是unrankable的
11:56 Azure: 好..
11:56 popner: 比较难判断方向
11:56 Azure: 哦
11:56 Azure: 心拍數0822的有箭頭
11:57 Azure: 我一直不懂那個箭頭是指甚麼
11:58 popner: 不明白
11:58 Azure: is listening to Hatsune Miku Append - Heart Rate 0822
11:58 Azure: 我記得有個愛心
11:59 Azure: 04:09:033
11:59 Azure: 哦不是愛心..
11:59 popner: 嗯
11:59 popner: 这样的slider现在是unrankable的
11:59 Azure: 嗯
12:01 popner: 摆开还有一个好处是可以避免overlap
12:02 popner: 00:41:431 (3,6) - 这两个
12:02 popner: 00:42:889 (7,9) - 这里
12:02 Azure: 壓到?
12:02 popner: 嗯
12:03 popner: 这样排版就不干净了
12:03 popner: 稍等接个电话
12:03 Azure: 嗯
12:04 popner: back
12:04 popner: 要想排版干净的话，第一步就是避免overlap
12:04 Azure: 嗯
12:05 popner: 第二步是控制note间的距离
12:05 Azure: 嗯
12:05 popner: 比如两个不接着的note，也按照ds来摆
12:06 Azure: 01:42:265 (1,2,3) 這個嗎...?
12:06 popner: 嗯
12:06 popner: 就是这种
12:07 Azure: 知道了
12:07 popner: 如果不stack，就按ds，这样排版就干净
12:07 Azure: 好
12:07 popner: 也能给人一种图比较精致的感觉
12:08 Azure: 嗯
12:10 popner: Hard看了下，也是没什么问题，但同样比较挤
12:10 Azure: 嗯
12:12 popner: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/597605
12:12 popner: 这是我某张图ctrl+a以后的
12:12 popner: 区别很明显
12:12 Azure: 嗯
12:15 Azure: 可是如果要跳的話 要跳到哪裡去啊
12:15 popner: 跳的方向要你自己把握啊
12:16 popner: 一个是要和后面的排列接上
12:16 popner: 另一个是要打起来不别扭
12:16 popner: 00:15:181 (4) -
12:16 popner: 比如这个可以
12:18 popner: orz传不上去
12:19 Azure: 0_0
12:19 popner: 00:15:181 (4) - 把这个移到64,56附近
12:20 Azure: 好遠!!
12:20 popner: I难度里算小跳了。。
12:21 Azure: ...orz
12:21 popner: 实际上因为滑条判定松，一点也不难
12:22 Azure: 就像友少next那張嗎?
12:22 Azure: 感覺很遠可是打起來很舒服
12:23 popner: 嗯
12:26 popner: 好了基本就是这样了
12:26 Azure: 嗯
L_P
1,370 posts
Joined July 2011
L_P
General:歌曲没剪好还是怎样 最后面的时候就这样断了

嗨~

[insane]
00:34:973 (2) - 变速，NC
01:23:306 (2) - ^
01:27:681 (6) - ^
01:28:306 (7) - ^
额...还有蛮多需要NC的这里不多话
00:39:556 (7) - 感觉这个删了慢速slider会更有feel~
00:40:702 - 加个什么吧
00:55:181 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这里有点不明白，为什么一定要5连而不要就像音效一样地下？打起来怪怪的
01:31:639 (4,5,6) - 这边会觉得和01:31:014 (3) - 放在一起效果更好
01:40:598 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这一段排列蛮难看的，可以试试看01:40:598 (5,7,9,11) - 同一弧度，01:40:806 (6,8,10,12) - 同弧度
01:42:264 (1) - 这个可以重叠在01:41:848 (11) - 位子上，01:42:681 (2) - 在01:41:431 (9) - 上这样子?
01:43:514 (4,5,6,7,8) - 同00:55:181 (4,5,6,7,8) -

[hard]
00:11:431 (4) - 尾巴被hit burst遮到 unrankable http://puu.sh/1XLbj
01:08:098 (5) - ^
01:11:431 (3) - ^
由于这diff间距过小 note size又大，在很多仍旧使用default skin 的嫩玩家眼中combo burst遮挡称之为灾难不为过，强烈建议做skin
其实觉得hard有点多余 Insane又不难normal也不见得太容易，造成hard只好使用那么大的note size和奇葩的AR.
以后见到这种状况大概不必做hard吧

曲子很可爱哦~ 加油
Azure
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Azure
all fixed
Thank you guys;)
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