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Robeats Diffs compared to Mania SR

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RayRaivern
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RayRaivern
What star rating would a Difficulty 30 map in Robeats be in mania?
Also what star rating would you consider a difficulty 25 map to be?

I know Mania star rating is crap but just give me a general idea about how difficult a Difficulty 30 and 25 map is in Robeats.
Lights
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Joined December 2016
Lights
Are there any charts that exist in both games to draw a point of reference from?
Zelzatter Zero
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Joined October 2016
Zelzatter Zero
As a person who already looked at some 30 difficulties in Robeats, I'd say it's around 5-6*
Full Tablet
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Joined September 2011
Full Tablet
My estimation of how the charts would be rated in osu!mania (after playing them in Robeats)

Dragon Force - Fury of the Storm (Majin Music Cover) (Hard), which is rated 32, would be rated around 4.5* in osu!mania

Nomico - Bad Apple (Camellia's Bad PSY!! Remix) (Hard), rated 34, would be overrated to be around 5.25* (despite actually being easier than the Dragon Force chart).

Nomico - Bad Apple (Camellia's Bad PSY!! Remix) (Normal), rated 19, would be rated to be around 3.5*

Team Grimoire - croiX (Hard), rated 27, would be rated around 3.75*

Gekidan Hitotose - A-E-I-U-E-O (Hard), rated 25, would be rated around 4.0*

DJ Totoriott - Chronoxia (Hard), rated 25, would be rated around 3.5*

xi - FREDOM DiVE, rated 26, would be severely underrated in osu!mania due to being only singlestreams (around 3.25*)

Max Coveri - Running in the 90's (STEINKRAFT Remix) (Hard), rated 24, would be rated around 3.5*

Apollo'FIXEDSTAR'program ft. Ritsuka - SolarOrbit, rated 25, would be rated around 4.0*

Apollo'FIXEDSTAR'program ft. Ritsuka - SolarOrbit (Hard), rated 31, would be rated around 4.75*

Qrispy Joybox - licca (Hard), rated 22, would be severely overrated to be around 3.75* (because of the jumpstreams)

Demonicity - Miami Hotline Vol.3 (Hard), rated 24, would be considerably underrated to be around 2.75*

Chroma - Dark Sheep, rated 24, would be overrated to around 4.25*.
RayRaivern
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Joined January 2020
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RayRaivern

Full Tablet wrote:

My estimation of how the charts would be rated in osu!mania (after playing them in Robeats)

Dragon Force - Fury of the Storm (Majin Music Cover) (Hard), which is rated 32, would be rated around 4.5* in osu!mania

Nomico - Bad Apple (Camellia's Bad PSY!! Remix) (Hard), rated 34, would be overrated to be around 5.25* (despite actually being easier than the Dragon Force chart).

Nomico - Bad Apple (Camellia's Bad PSY!! Remix) (Normal), rated 19, would be rated to be around 3.5*

Team Grimoire - croiX (Hard), rated 27, would be rated around 3.75*

Gekidan Hitotose - A-E-I-U-E-O (Hard), rated 25, would be rated around 4.0*

DJ Totoriott - Chronoxia (Hard), rated 25, would be rated around 3.5*

xi - FREDOM DiVE, rated 26, would be severely underrated in osu!mania due to being only singlestreams (around 3.25*)

Max Coveri - Running in the 90's (STEINKRAFT Remix) (Hard), rated 24, would be rated around 3.5*

Apollo'FIXEDSTAR'program ft. Ritsuka - SolarOrbit, rated 25, would be rated around 4.0*

Apollo'FIXEDSTAR'program ft. Ritsuka - SolarOrbit (Hard), rated 31, would be rated around 4.75*

Qrispy Joybox - licca (Hard), rated 22, would be severely overrated to be around 3.75* (because of the jumpstreams)

Demonicity - Miami Hotline Vol.3 (Hard), rated 24, would be considerably underrated to be around 2.75*

Chroma - Dark Sheep, rated 24, would be overrated to around 4.25*.
Oh my god, Thank you very much, I was looking for something like this.

Would you consider Dragon force to be correctly starred or understarred? Also is it harder than Aiae SC or Empress MX(or SC if it is harder than MX)?
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Lights
683 posts
Joined December 2016
Lights

RayRaivern wrote:

Full Tablet wrote:

My estimation of how the charts would be rated in osu!mania (after playing them in Robeats)

Dragon Force - Fury of the Storm (Majin Music Cover) (Hard), which is rated 32, would be rated around 4.5* in osu!mania

Nomico - Bad Apple (Camellia's Bad PSY!! Remix) (Hard), rated 34, would be overrated to be around 5.25* (despite actually being easier than the Dragon Force chart).

Nomico - Bad Apple (Camellia's Bad PSY!! Remix) (Normal), rated 19, would be rated to be around 3.5*

Team Grimoire - croiX (Hard), rated 27, would be rated around 3.75*

Gekidan Hitotose - A-E-I-U-E-O (Hard), rated 25, would be rated around 4.0*

DJ Totoriott - Chronoxia (Hard), rated 25, would be rated around 3.5*

xi - FREDOM DiVE, rated 26, would be severely underrated in osu!mania due to being only singlestreams (around 3.25*)

Max Coveri - Running in the 90's (STEINKRAFT Remix) (Hard), rated 24, would be rated around 3.5*

Apollo'FIXEDSTAR'program ft. Ritsuka - SolarOrbit, rated 25, would be rated around 4.0*

Apollo'FIXEDSTAR'program ft. Ritsuka - SolarOrbit (Hard), rated 31, would be rated around 4.75*

Qrispy Joybox - licca (Hard), rated 22, would be severely overrated to be around 3.75* (because of the jumpstreams)

Demonicity - Miami Hotline Vol.3 (Hard), rated 24, would be considerably underrated to be around 2.75*

Chroma - Dark Sheep, rated 24, would be overrated to around 4.25*.
Oh my god, Thank you very much, I was looking for something like this.

Would you consider Dragon force to be correctly starred or understarred? Also is it harder than Aiae SC or Empress MX(or SC if it is harder than MX)?
none of the songs on his list are harder than empress SC
Full Tablet
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Joined September 2011
Full Tablet

RayRaivern wrote:

Would you consider Dragon force to be correctly starred or understarred? Also is it harder than Aiae SC or Empress MX(or SC if it is harder than MX)?
I don't know if it would be underrated in the Robeats scale, it is the hardest song I played out of all of them, so Bad Apple is overrated or Fury of the Storm is underrated.

I estimate Fury of the Storm would be heavily underrated in osu!mania (though it's not easy to judge, since maps that are based on anchored single jacks are rare in osu!mania). I estimate it would be rated around 4.5* but I would rate it around 5.5* (maybe I am overestimating it, since the map goes against the meta of osu!mania and stepmania, so I don't have much experience with those patterns in general). I estimate Bad Apple would be overrated (it would be rated around 5.25*, but I would rate it about 5.0*)

AiAe [SC] is a little bit overrated in osu!mania (it is rated 4.60* and I would rate it around 4.5*). Empress [MX] is underrated (it is rated 3.92*, but I would rate it around 4.25*). Empress [SC] is extremely underrated (it is rated 4.18*, but I would rate it around 5.25*)

So:
Empress [MX] < AiAe [SC] < Bad Apple [Hard] < Empress [SC] < Fury of the Storm [Hard]
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[LS]PositoniX
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[LS]PositoniX
i feel like im qualified to answer this question since i played both games.

short answer: i'd say a difficulty 24 would be high 3* to low 4*, while difficulty 30 would be high 4* to low 5*. there are certain charts that deviate from this generalization but i'll just use this as a point of reference.

why this is inaccurate: not only is mania's star rating inaccurate, but robeats's rating is also very inaccurate due to how terrible the quality of most charts are. certain songs like angelic jelly hard have borderline unplayable patterns mixed in with totally playable patterns making them difficulty 31, while bad apple hard, which follows a similar principle, is difficulty 34.

some robeats charts for reference:
beatmapsets/817362#mania/1714192
beatmapsets/1003698#mania/2101477
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/999660#mania/2094517

there is no pattern or even anything vaguely resemblant of a pattern between robeats ratings and osu sr
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