oukaitou - Princess

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JauiPlaY
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年2月27日 at 13:29:28

Artist: oukaitou
Title: Princess
Tags: Dulcet Series summer special collection good machine oil
BPM: 146
Filesize: 6894kb
Play Time: 03:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Despair (4.31 stars, 346 notes)
  2. Doubt (3.04 stars, 253 notes)
  3. Fear (4.98 stars, 588 notes)


Download: oukaitou - Princess
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Mapping with doubt, despair and fear.
Shit.

25th map.
DarkProjector
下载试试= =~
-Baby Strawberry-
嗨咯~!

你这背景都哪找来的!快给我也发几张~!

[Hard]
谁家hard这么难。。。ar8还那么跳!明明就是insane。。。那我就按照insane mod咯
00:37:603 (5) - 这个我听起来感觉音有点碎。。。所以说我建议删掉这个然后在00:37:706加个圈
01:46:952 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 你觉得这个怎么样?
02:29:692 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 我觉得应该是先大圈再小圈感觉好点
02:58:870 (2,3) - 这里好坑啊。。。。
03:28:870 (1,2) - 调换过来吧。。。这样也太坑了

[Normal]
00:42:843 (1) - 这个放到这里吧
01:12:432 (1) - 好吧。。。
01:58:870 (2) - 再次好吧。。。
02:36:678 (3) - ctrl+G
03:05:035 (3) - 我会觉得弯点好看
03:17:363 (1) - 第三次好吧。。。
03:55:172 (1) - 这个放到这里吧? 然后后面呢,我觉得吧就一条线下来就挺好的
tutuhaha
好听的歌
然后看到那个shit
然后我就想抽你了

[Normal]
Ar-1,现在太快了我说真的O_O...
00:54:761 (X) - 这边加个note还是比较带感的
00:58:048 (X) - ^
01:04:624 (X) - ^
01:43:048 (X) - 这边这样搞
02:10:994 (4) - 加个whistle在中间

[Hard]
00:37:500 (4,5) - 这个换一下位置节奏就对了
00:37:911 (1) - 这里可以加clap
01:08:733 (6,7) - 这块节奏没那么急促
01:19:007 (1) - 去掉whistle
01:19:829 (3) - 然后把whistle放到这里
01:43:254 (3) - whistle搞掉

嘛考虑加个静音轨道?
然后建议加个diff在hard和normal之间?
phaZ
[Normal]

01:12:432 (1) - i dont like it D:
01:17:980 - missing a beat. i suggest to place the slider here and make him to repeat
01:27:226 (4) - i really think these sliders would not fit to the song
01:58:870 (2) - ^
02:02:158 (2) - move the first slider-waypoint to 64;156. [url=02:02:158 (2) -]looks[/url] much better to me
03:17:363 (1) -
03:20:651 (1) - make the the cure more smooth and it would be fine
03:52:295 (2) and 03:53:939 (2) - meh :c
[Hard]

its a very hard Hard and since the first kiai-time it really is an Insane. rename
hp-drain -1. its too hard fo a hard and also it doesnt fits to the song
00:29:281 (7,8,1) - looks good but plays really weird because there isnt any rhythm like this in the music
00:29:487 - and instead a beat is missing here >.<
00:32:569 (7,8,1) - same
00:36:884 (2,3,4,5) - ^
00:38:733 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^
00:42:432 (7,8,1) - ^. i swear im not the only one who think so. you need a change there :\
00:45:515 (7,8) - it should be sth like this http://puu.sh/1I9dY to make the beats hit the music (add whistle on slider begin and on circle)
00:46:131 (1) - if you did ^ add whistle at start
01:02:158 (6,7,1) - doesnt fit here
01:02:569 (1,2) - thats a pretty big and also random jump to me. i suggest to move 01:02:158 (6,7,1) a bit to the left (and maybe a bit down too) and mirror (1) (dont forget the hitsounds!)
01:08:733 (6,7) - make them to one slider is better
01:15:309 (6,7) - ^
01:18:185 (3,4,5) - ? why O:
01:25:172 (6,7) - remove (1) and move the slider on the white tick http://puu.sh/1I9Bg?
01:30:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - dafuq?
01:38:322 (6,7,8,1) - make a triplet and a single
01:39:144 (2,3) - add nc on (2) and remove on (3). thats better to read
01:40:788 (2,3) - ^
01:42:432 (2,3) - ^
01:43:254 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - the song is just nice, polite, kind and quiet. such a highlight moment doesnt fit
01:43:665 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - if you remove the whistles it doesnt it doesnt sound like a epic moment (and then in the music never was one)
02:48:391 (4,1) and 02:49:213 (4,1) and 02:50:035 (4,1) - dat jumps are so random and impossible...rly
03:07:089 (6) - ctrl+g

nice map though^^
SamiPale
Hi there. From my mod queue.

Unrankable stuff中的意见是很有可能要修改的,如果你的map是要ranked的话。
Map designing部分、Rhythm/Placing部分和Hitsounds部分的意见是我的个人见解,如果你觉得不好可以随时忽略。

[Normal]
  1. Unrankable stuff
    1. None.
  2. Map designing
    1. 参照Hard部分
  3. Rhythm/Placing

    • 节奏上不科学的空拍略多,碍于星数还是不说了..
    1. 00:47:158 (2) - 这种排版给人一种不是1/1节奏,很容易打快的感觉,建议分开
    2. 00:47:774 (3,4) - 换成3/2折返?
    3. 01:10:788 (4) - 这个slider的形状略单调...可以考虑加几个支点复杂一点
  4. Hitsounds
    1. 前面的whistle显得略单调..00:52:706之前的whistle可以再多点,每小节加一个也可以
    2. 01:21:884 (4) - 移除whistle?后面的3/2slider也同理适当移除,因为下一小节第一拍也有whistle听起来有点重复
    3. 01:53:117 (4) - clap?
    4. 02:07:911 (4) and 02:11:199 (4) - clap换成whistle?
    5. 02:30:514 (2) - 头加finish,尾部finish换成clap?
    6. 03:06:678 (5) - 移除其中一个hitsound?合起来不太好听
    7. 03:16:131 (5) - 移除whistle?
    8. 03:19:829 (4) - 同03:06:678 (5)
    9. 03:37:089 (1) - 降低音量。如果之前的spinner没换位置也一样最好降低音量


[Hard]
  1. Unrankable stuff
    1. None.
  2. Map designing
    1. 02:11:610 (1) - 这里的spinner感觉有点强硬,可以考虑在02:08:322开始做一些引向高潮的节奏/DS比较高的排列,02:11:610换成note,之后是break,然后在02:21:473建一个spinner持续到02:24:350,我觉得这样会好一点
  3. Rhythm/Placing
    1. 00:35:857 (8) - 这里感觉跟平时一样slider移后到蓝线上,原地加个circle比较好,spacing可以不用变
    2. 01:16:747 (4,5,6) - 换个角度摆同DS的三角形会更好?这个地方音乐应该是往高处进行的
    3. 01:19:624 (2,3,4,5,6) - 换种漂亮点的摆法?
    4. 01:30:514 (1,2,3,4,5) - (1)变成1/2 slider,之后的移后一个1/16拍,5连换成4连,这样的节奏比较不突兀
    5. 01:42:021 (1,2,3) - 这里也略有弧度地摆一下?
    6. 02:08:322 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 如果Map designing那里不改,这里还是觉得作为高潮的地方这么摆不合适,个人认为还是摆得大气点好
    7. 02:29:692 (1) - 这里的前后无论节奏衔接还是排版都略生硬?感觉全局对称太难用好了
    8. 02:49:418 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这里的纯1/2节奏略单调,就算是02:50:548加个note也会好很多
    9. 03:17:363 to 03:23:733 - 这里也一样,同上在同样的小节位置加note之类的形成3连也会听起来顺耳很多
    10. 03:39:555 (4) - 按照前面这里这个(4)应该是跟(1,2,3)是同一条弧线比较好?
  4. Hitsounds
    1. 00:28:665 (6) - whistle?
    2. 00:31:952 (6) - 同上,(8)的头尾也可以加whistle
    3. 00:35:651 (7) - whistle从slider尾换到slider头上
    4. 00:38:322 (1) - 也许可以加个whistle
    5. 00:39:144 (6) - whistle
    6. 00:41:815 (6) - 同00:28:665 (6)
    7. 00:49:213 (1) - whistle?
    8. 00:51:473 (6) - whistle?
    9. 00:54:761 (4) - whistle?
    10. 00:58:048 (4) - 同上
    11. 01:01:336 (4) - 同上
    12. 01:04:213 (4,5,6,7) - oxxoxoxx?(x代表whistle
    13. 01:07:911 (4) - 同00:54:761 (4)
    14. 01:11:199 (4) - 同上
    15. 01:14:487 (4) - 同上
    16. 01:15:411 (7) - 头尾可以加whistle
    17. 01:17:158 (6) - whistle?
    18. 01:17:774 (2) - whistle?
    19. 01:48:391 (8) - whistle?
    20. 01:54:966 (8) - 同上
    21. 01:55:994 (1) - 这里的whistle移动到01:55:583,然后(2)加whistle?
    22. 02:25:994 (3) - finish?
    23. 02:28:459 (2) - 这里给我的感觉clap比较好?同时02:29:281加finish?
    24. 02:30:514 (1) - finish?
    25. 02:36:678 (6) - 移除finish?
    26. 02:43:254 (6) - whistle?
    27. 02:46:541 (6) - 同上
    28. 02:49:829 (3) - 同上
    29. 02:53:117 (3) - 同上
    30. 02:56:404 (1) - 同上
    31. 如果spinner没换位置还是同Normal末尾降低音量


都25张图了 :?
Rotte
不是很喜欢啊......
yanlu
Hi~ :) mod from my Mod Queue

那張圖我真的不認識是誰lol
不過因為是好歌~所以還是來mod>_<

如果我的建議不好請原諒.
[Hard]
00:29:281 (7,8)- 換成一個slider 00:29:281- 到 00:29:589- ?
00:37:192 (3,4,5)- (4)跟3和5的間距小一點><?
00:41:815 (6)- note+slider比較fit o.o
00:48:596 (7,8,9,10)- 有點檔...不過還好>< 00:49:007 (9)- 的位子要不要排到 x440 y256
(這樣就符合後面的00:51:884 (7,8,9,10)- 做平行四邊形~)
^(如果有改~00:47:774 (5)- 也要稍微改一下:3)
00:54:966 (5)- 因為00:53:322- 有空拍..所以建議00:54:966- 也空一拍
00:56:610- 這裡看是要加note還是後面空拍><?
01:05:446 (7,8,1)- =A=這...
01:16:747 (4,5,6)- 不好讀..真的
01:18:596 (4)- 間距也許縮小一點><
01:19:829 (3,5)- 換個地方放? 讓01:19:624 (2,3,4,5,6)- 做正方形~
01:21:268 (8)- 在彎一點比較好看><
01:30:514 (1,2,3,4)- 怪怪的...
01:32:774 (2,3)- 跟4的三角形距離可以再大一點點~跟01:32:158 (1)- 碰到或沒檔好了~
01:50:857 (1,2,3,1,2)- 有點擠...也許是因為一開始的三角形距離不夠開xD"
02:00:720 (4,1)- 嗯...有點跳
02:09:966 (1,2,3,4)- 比前面的間距大點?
02:25:788 (3,3,3)- 可以放別的位置別擋住嗎Orz
02:48:391 (4,1)- 也(更)有點跳""
02:49:213 (4,1)- ^
02:50:035 (4,1)- ^
02:52:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6)- 也許這裡的變化比較適合大到小"跳>近")w
02:58:870 (2)- 太檔><
03:00:514 (2)- ^
03:05:446 (4)- 轉向?
03:06:268 (2,3,4,5)- 嗯...
03:19:007 (1,2,1)- 都轉向 :3
03:22:295 (1,2,1)- ^
03:24:555 (4,5)- (5)突然沒稍微跟03:23:939 (1)- 擋住有點難讀懂>_<
03:24:761 (5)- 或許這裡nc
03:26:404 (5)- ^
03:28:048 (5)- ^
03:32:158 (1,2,3)- ..跳得太突然了"
03:55:172 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)- 都到最後了能不能別這麼難...
神mapper!我只能mod出這些>_<

good luck ></
Athena Tennos
麻烦的格式就不写啦~

[Normal]
  1. 01:12:432 (1) - 平滑的slider中突然出现一个这种扭曲的slider有点不舒服~
  2. 01:33:802 (4) - ^


[Hard]
  1. 03:30:617 - 降音量~?25%?~
  2. 03:43:665 - 20%?~
  3. 03:50:240 - 15%。。。。。。。


唔。。我来凑SP好了。。。~
<~
Pokie

 General

  1. N, I 這種mapset似乎是unrankable的, 最好找人確認一下
  2. 不是找了Milkshake做gd嗎…不要告訴我Normal就是她做的

 Normal

  1. Agree with AR-1
    00:50:446 (2,3) - Circle stacking under slider's end is unrankable issue for easiest difficulty, please unstack and fix the pattern.
    01:17:363 (3,4,5) - I don't prefer for stacking these together, as you have another 1/2 stack 01:18:802 (6,1) - , It'll be messed up for newbies.
    01:38:733 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I doubt on such idea could be used in Normal :roll:
    02:10:788 - Consider to add a note here, as the clap sounds strong here.
    02:26:404 (1,1,1) - These new combos are kinda confusing, simply rearrange them like this:

    02:40:788 (5) - No stacks ;w;
    02:46:131 (3) - ^
    02:52:706 (4,5) - ^
    03:20:651 (1) - ^
    03:45:308 (1,1,1) - Same as 02:26:404

 Hard

  1. 光看個Normal我已經睏死了, 保險起見N我寫了英文
  2. 其實mod的話我在QQ已經做過的了, 我是不知道你有沒看見就是…於是暫時跳掉這難度, 你需要的話我再貼一次當時的內容
Scorpiour
Hi there~~mod from queue~~

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions


[General]
  1. Your mp3 is 320kbps, so change it to 192kbps and don't forget to do timing again
  2. No tags?
  3. Recommend a silent sliderslide also since the song is quiet.


[Normal]
  1. 00:40:583 - add a slider here to instread of 00:40:994 (2) - maybe better? also 00:43:870 -
  2. 01:40:377 (1) - extend to 3/2 length?
  3. 01:51:062 (4) - make it curved? the song here is soft as aways..
  4. 02:06:062 (2) - move to prev white tick and extend to 1/1?
  5. 02:07:706 (4) - ^, these place are not suitable for shorten slider to alternate beat imo
  6. 02:09:350 (2) - ^
  7. 02:10:994 (4) - ^, move forward then add a repeat
  8. 02:28:459 (2) - depends on your hitsound, clap here is better than finish, i'd like to put finish at 02:29:281 (3) - but not here
  9. 03:50:240 - suggest to reduce volumn from here to end graduately


[Hard]
  1. 00:37:192 (3,4,5) - the beat here is heard mess...remove whistle here first, and then combine 00:37:192 (3,4) - ?
  2. TBH, i didn't very agree with your usage of whistles before 00:52:706 -
  3. 01:05:857 (1) - confused slider overlap
  4. 01:20:035 (4,5,6,7) - bad flow i suppose.. try this placement?
  5. 01:26:404 (3) - ctrl+g and move head left a bit like this?
  6. 01:30:514 (1,2,3,4) - whistle here are heard weird
  7. 02:44:074 (4) - Unsnapped circle
  8. 03:07:089 (6) - ctrl+g?
  9. 03:32:569 (3) - move to 180:280 for better flow~


that's all, give me a call when you're ready.

顺便一提,Hard的难度我认为已经超出一个正常的Hard应有的难度了,虽然不是完全不能放过但是diff spread确实感觉有些不好。另外非黑色的地方如果不改要给我有说服力的理由。
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Ahh finally finished...to read the modding posts and edit such a long map is really a big work. It's so painful for such a lazy guy like me to go with...
And I know it was not easy for you guys to mod this map, too! Some modding are really useful to me! Great thanks for you! :D

Map updated~
@Scorpiour: I'll reply your modding on-line.
Kiiwa
yo. bg name made me lol

Despair
OD+1. Rhythm is too simple to need such a low OD, right?
01:19:921 (3,4,5) - Inconsistent spacing and awkward slider paths to follow, use spacing 0.43X to fix (5) spacing. Also, maybe rotate (5) and place like:
01:39:853 (4,4,4) - Nicer rhythm to move these all to the next 1/2, right?
02:27:729 (3,2) - Having both as these as custom sound feel awkward. Maybe remove one?
02:40:469 - Remove whistle.
03:28:346 (4,1) - Transition between these two sliders doesn't feel right.

Fear
00:38:620 (2,3,4,5,6) - You can make hitsounds here like 01:18:277 (3,4,5) -
01:16:429 (2,3,4,5,6) - Can be arranged better.
01:19:716 (2,6) - Stack (2) on (6) so it doesn't have such a random overlap maybe~ (and also you don't need to stack (7) too... It seems unnecessary)
01:44:373 (4) - New combo? Splitting it into grounds of three looks cool~
01:53:209 (4,1) - Good location, but so easy to mistake for a 1/4. Maybe CTRL+G 01:53:620 (1,2) - and 01:54:031 (3,4) - or something to make less confusing. Looks like:
02:40:469 (7) - New combo.
02:47:044 (7) - New combo.
03:10:058 (5) - New combo.

88
Nichiyouki


Hi, JauiPlaY

My mod from your request in my modding queue

Red = Unrankable
Blue = You should consider
Black = My suggestion

General

  1. Fine

Doubt

  1. 03:06:06 (3) - I prefer to make this slider curve more than.
  2. 02:52:798 (3,4,5) - Slider begin of (4) shouldn't stack with slider end previously because it may cause confusion between (3,4) and (4,5).

Despair

  1. 00:26:497 (1) - Rotate anticlockwise about 9 ~ 11 degrees then move (2) to x:428 y:336. It will look better.
  2. 01:04:716 (4,5) - I feel that spacing bettween these is too far. I think you may reduce spacing about 1.6x be better imo.
  3. 01:30:401 (3) - The rhythm of this note is weird for me. May move it at 01:30:195 instead may be more suitable, and if you're fix it, remove whistle on slider end of 01:29:579 (2), too.

Fear

  1. 01:29:373 (2,3) - You can use Ctrl+G on (2) to turn to the contrary with (1), and turn slider tail of (3) move to the left to turn to the contrary with (4) as well.
  2. 02:32:661 (5) - These are better if you rotate this anticlockwise about 30 degrees. Then move to x:16 y:156 to make similar with 02:33:894 (3,4,5).

Comment: All diffs are look good for me. Especially, in Doubt diff. I really prefer for your mapping.

That's all that I can find them, and hope that my mod will be useful for you. (Sorry for I mod delay, too)

Good luck~
Gundam
Hi 这是我挑了半天的鱼骨头
I think this map is so good that it should be ranked asap.
[General]
没个TAG什么的吗/w\

[Despair]
00:48:688 (5) - 和00:49:921 (1) 的末端对齐怎么样o.o
01:52:387 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉之前样不太好看 这样可以么0 0然后把5的起点和3对齐
02:44:990 (1,2,3,4) - 同上_(:з」∠)_

[Fear]
01:38:723 (8) - del? 这样后面节奏一样0 0
02:37:695 (6) - 这样改一下?
02:41:907 (1,2,3,4) - 这样0 0?
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Thanks for modding! Your suggestions are really suitable to me to improve this map! :D

And @Scorpiour:

Scorpiour wrote:

[General]
  1. Your mp3 is 320kbps, so change it to 192kbps and don't forget to do timing againk
  2. No tags?这个真没有
  3. Recommend a silent sliderslide also since the song is quiet.k


[Normal]
  1. 00:40:583 - add a slider here to instread of 00:40:994 (2) - maybe better? also 00:43:870 -
    一上来就这样感觉有点难
  2. 01:40:377 (1) - extend to 3/2 length?那样节奏对新人就不好掌握了
  3. 01:51:062 (4) - make it curved? the song here is soft as aways..k
  4. 02:06:062 (2) - move to prev white tick and extend to 1/1?
  5. 02:07:706 (4) - ^, these place are not suitable for shorten slider to alternate beat imo
  6. 02:09:350 (2) - ^
  7. 02:10:994 (4) - ^, move forward then add a repeat这几个都是为了增加一点节奏多样性 不然玩着玩着睡着了
  8. 02:28:459 (2) - depends on your hitsound, clap here is better than finish, i'd like to put finish at 02:29:281 (3) - but not here故意的 最高难度也是这个下法
  9. 03:50:240 - suggest to reduce volumn from here to end graduately其实没必要 因为音乐本身音量其实并没有减少 加一根绿线配合一下足够了


[Hard]
  1. 00:37:192 (3,4,5) - the beat here is heard mess...remove whistle here first, and then combine 00:37:192 (3,4) - ?故意的 为了节奏的多样性
  2. TBH, i didn't very agree with your usage of whistles before 00:52:706 -
  3. 01:05:857 (1) - confused slider overlap完全不会unrankable啊...不过你这么一说我修了修slider的形状 现在stack得更加完美了lol
  4. 01:20:035 (4,5,6,7) - bad flow i suppose.. try this placement?k
  5. 01:26:404 (3) - ctrl+g and move head left a bit like this?故意的
  6. 01:30:514 (1,2,3,4) - whistle here are heard weird改了节奏
  7. 02:44:074 (4) - Unsnapped circlek
  8. 03:07:089 (6) - ctrl+g?k
  9. 03:32:569 (3) - move to 180:280 for better flow~感觉现在这样 flow不差多少 美观不止一点
Scorpiour
recheck:

[General]
  1. remove good machine oil from tags, i don't think it makes any sense....


[Fear]
  1. 01:55:264 (1) - ctrl+g to this slider? since your prev notes are jump for each two, i think a ctrl+g for jump may make better flow:>


[Despair]
  1. 00:47:661 - add a note here or make a 1/2 slider for consistent beat?


no kds
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
good machine oil

The other two have been fixed.
Scorpiour
bubbled~~~

Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Finally finally finally. Thanks a lot.
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