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HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-02-25T06:00:25+00:00

About the starting,I like it that way sorry :c.. but the circle is deleted~!
I will update everything when the mapper is done fixing it~
EDIT: UPDATED, seems like pieguy is afk from the game,so I fix it a bit but won't change how he map.

pieguyn

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Joined May 2009

pieguyn 2013-03-04T09:54:13+00:00

MerryGate wrote:
[pieguy's Confession]
If you had used sampleset, your work was able to reduce lol @_@
00:43:935 (2) - finish to start sure
00:45:233 (1) - ^ ^
01:18:962 - I think this break is too long. mapped like in the other diffs
01:47:186 (4) - NC? I just put a NC every 8 beats ._.// so leave it like this for now

thanks for mod~~

Stefan wrote:
[pieguy]
00:14:097 (1,2) - Try to move them a bit away from each other. They are touching themselves. it seems they're not o-o
00:58:206 (1) - Move the white Sliderpoint at 160;228. Better curve. ok
02:01:132 (1,2) - It sounds very weird imo. I suggest to replace (1) for a Slider until 02:01:781, remove (2) and adding a Circle at 02:02:105. I don't want to keep using the same rhythm, so I did something different here.. I think it sounds fine enough
02:21:240 (4) - I find that a simple Circle is totally enough. I think it gives a better feeling here, plus it fits the song better

thanks for mod

osu file format v12

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TitleUnicode:告白予行練習
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ArtistUnicode:HoneyWorks
Creator:HeatKai
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Tags:Megpoid Gumi Kagamine Len Vocaloid pieguy1372 alacat ychao kokuhaku yokou renshu ChorusP
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HeatKai

osu! Alumni

2,801 posts

Joined April 2010

Topic Starter

HeatKai 2013-03-04T14:44:24+00:00

done updated~!

WVS

547 posts

Joined May 2012

WVS 2013-03-13T19:11:38+00:00

~♥~

pieguy:
actually, this diff could use more hitsounds to remove some boring parts like alacat's but it's all up to you.
1. 01:17:908 - put the break time at 01:18:962 - would be better (drag it into the 3/4 timing)
2. 01:29:664 (2) - sampleset Drum + Finish?
3. 02:11:511 - end Kiai then start Kiai again at 02:11:835 - ?
4. 02:27:078 (1) - what's the point of finish in here o.o .. doesn't really make sense.. try remove it then add whistle on 02:27:403 (2) - ?
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alacat:
1. 00:15:395 - S:C2 here + clap?
2. 01:08:584 - end Kiai then start Kiai again at 01:08:908 - ?
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ychao:
cool
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heatkai:
instead of using claps in some parts, how about using the N:C1 Clap?
1. 00:11:016 (1) - sampleset soft? sounds too harsh
2. 00:11:179 (2) - sampleset soft + finish at slider's head sounds better
3. 00:30:962 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - patterns like these are hard to follow and it's too mainstream (?) try this YEAH.
4. 01:02:746 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these whistles makes my ears bleed- remove it. after you remove them, try to add some inherited points then increase the volume of the streams per beat, something like this
5. 01:31:853 (2,3,4) - noo why sliders ;_; circles are much better
6. 01:49:457 (5,6,7) - something like this works better actually (but it's up to you to change it or not.)
7. 02:05:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same like #4
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Didn't helps: No KD.
Kinda helps but nah: No KD.
Helps: KD.

HeatKai

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Topic Starter

HeatKai 2013-03-13T19:15:23+00:00

~♥~
/me runs

I'll update tommorow,right now on laptop
EDIT: DONE WAITING FOR OTHERS~

Pokie

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Pokie 2013-03-16T08:48:10+00:00

Request from Forum PM

As your request, and I'm here. I've checked all difficulties roughly for twice, actually they are pretty fine and almost ready for ranking in my view - except yours. I'd inform you in the first word: As I've mapped the same song in some days ago, my opinions would be kinda tough and different of yours. Feel free to ignore them if you feel bad.

　My Confession

First of all, the overall spacing is kind of awful in a serious level. It's pointless for not to follow the spacing when it supposed to be, for example:
00:01:611 (2,3) - 0.50x > 0.24x, the spacing is exactly halfed. Apparently it could be spaced in 0.5x or even more, like this:
SPOILER
00:30:800 (11,1) - 1.00x>3.02x, we need to think before doing action. Lets think about the problem here, does it -really- fit such a huge jump? Here's a no for myself, I'd like to start (1) from the current position of (6), like this:
SPOILER
01:05:989 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - 1/4 slider+1/4 streams, the flow is like a racing car in full speed - and suddenly, 01:06:800 (1) - is placed with 0.5x....what? Even stacking with 01:06:476 (9) - would make it way more better
　
2nd point, the patterns are disregarding "a flow" completely. Indeed they're mostly placed as a blanket pattern but without flow, the pattern lost it's meaning.
00:58:206 - 02:01:132 - Not to mention how bad it plays...I'm disappointed.
　
3rd point, I can't really understand your thinking about rhythm. Once it was tightly paced like 2~3 beats, and you added "short breaks" (1/1) in the same combo.
00:08:422 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - (1,2,3,4) is based on vocal, and you started to follow hit-hats when vocal is still going on (5,6,7).
00:14:260 (4) - Totally placed on a wrong beat, it should be started from 1/2 beats earlier.
00:41:341 (5,6,7) - Hey, I heard only 1/2 from music D:
01:17:016 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Similar to above, 1/4 only appears from 01:17:179 - to 01:17:341 - .
01:58:213 (1,2,3,4,5) - You've followed 1/4 drums correctly on these combos, but actually there are 1/4 hit-hats at 01:59:511 - as well.
02:10:700 (3,4,5) - Again, these 1/4s are needless.
　
4th, and the last point, hitsoundings.
　

　
I'd better leave some directions for you here instead of taking your time to check all over the map:
1. Not to abuse finishs.
2. Drum sets could be used on a suitable place, but not randomly.

That's all I wanted to tell. IIRC you've asked for plenty test play before started to get moddings, idk if I act like a bad ass by complaining your map isn't good enough or what...
But to be honest, HeatKai. You've 9 ranked maps already, I'd say you're an experienced mapper. But I can't believe such map is made by some one who's supposed to know mapping tech well.
Please, map something meaningful and makes sense! That would be more appreciate by learning how to map better!

Good luck

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-03-16T09:59:12+00:00

Thanks Pokie! It's not that I'm not agree with you but I do fix most of it and I discuss something with Niva too.

Discussion with Niva

17:05 HeatKai: omg is it really that bad T_T
17:06 HeatKai: Niva would mind try my beatmap again?
17:07 Niva: umm, Confession Rehearsal?
17:07 HeatKai: yes
17:07 Niva: sure~ give me some moment
17:07 HeatKai: I wonder does Pokie says is true?
17:08 Niva: o.o? it's gone from my map list
17:08 Niva: let me re-dl again >_<
17:08 HeatKai: and are you agree with the Pokie's mod,because Pokie point out everything like the whole diff is bad :o
17:08 *HeatKai is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/213170 HoneyWorks - Confession Rehearsal]
17:11 Niva: yep, still downloading xD
17:11 Niva: oh
17:11 *Niva is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/220918 HoneyWorks - Confession Rehearsal]
17:11 Niva: My / ychao's?
17:11 HeatKai: My
17:13 Niva: orz Pomuta PM'd me orz :D
17:13 HeatKai: lol
17:17 HeatKai: I wanted to know whether do you agree on everything what Pokie's post or what =w=''
17:17 Niva: umm, ychao = hard?
17:17 HeatKai: yeah should be
17:19 Niva: yep, spacing is unexpected on some places... ._.
17:19 Niva: not really sure about hitsounding though
17:20 HeatKai: the spacing I can see that and it can be fix easily but the others like,2nd 3rd 4th point of Pokie's post
17:22 Niva: that (8) is off-screen in HR orz :D
17:22 Niva: ok, let me see the post once more though
17:24 Niva: about the second point
17:24 Niva: it's more into 'unbalanced' imo
17:25 Niva: 1.0x -> 1.5x, I think 1.2 should fit more...
17:25 HeatKai: but most of player that testplay likes 1.5 tho.
17:26 Niva: 02:10:700 (3,4,5) - orz I agree with this one ofc :D
17:26 HeatKai: oh ya that one i agree too
17:26 HeatKai: really feels awkward xD
17:26 Niva: xD
17:26 HeatKai: how bout the others? 
17:27 Niva: finishes are quite random, yep
17:28 Niva: for example you put finish here 02:13:457 (6) - 
17:28 Niva: but no finish here 02:16:700 (1) - 
17:28 Niva: although there's cymbal also...
17:28 HeatKai: oh I didn't notice that
17:29 HeatKai: so..now random finishes,the random 1/4,spacing.and? what would you want me to fix
17:29 Niva: but idk, when I testplay I didn't get really distracted by it~
17:29 Niva: spacing mostly ._.
17:29 HeatKai: would you mind help me point it out?
17:30 HeatKai: i don't really have problem because i'm the mapper lol
17:30 Niva: umm, okay
17:30 Niva: the spacing I don't expect while playing is
17:30 Niva: that circles Pokie screenshoted
17:31 Niva: 00:30:800 (11,1) - 
17:31 Niva: 00:43:449 (4) - 
17:32 Niva: 01:06:962 (2) - (because (9,1) and (1,2) is equally spaced but with different time)
17:33 Niva: 02:10:700 (3,4,5) - this pattern 
17:33 Niva: and 02:35:348 (5,6) - 
17:33 HeatKai: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/656294 changed it to this
17:34 HeatKai: i wonder if you remember or not,02:35:511 (6) - this slider you're the one who ask to ctrl+r in irc xD
17:34 Niva: o.o?
17:34 Niva: a... is it really me ._.
17:34 HeatKai: yes
17:34 Niva: btw yep, that pattern would work~
17:34 Niva: >_<
17:34 HeatKai: HAHA
17:35 HeatKai: You're not being honest
17:35 Niva: umm, I forget, really ._.
17:35 HeatKai: but the ending is fine imho xD so i won't change it either
17:35 Niva: :D
17:35 HeatKai: so is that all? :3
17:36 HeatKai: 00:30:800 (11,1) - I will fix this,many people do mention about this
17:36 Niva: the parts where I got trouble while playing, yep
17:38 HeatKai: ok fixing it now
17:38 Niva: (:
17:38 HeatKai: is that all ? or should i fix more from pokie's mod? maybe you can point which one that you're agree?
17:38 Niva: umm, 'random finishes' are just try to hear the song's cymbals more carefully actually~
17:39 HeatKai: ok! I'll fix that after the circle so is this fine?http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/656299
17:39 Niva: about the rhythm Pokie mentioned, I personally think your current rhythm is usable
17:40 Niva: but it's up to you whether to fix Pokie's or not :D
17:40 Niva: umm, definitely better now~
17:40 HeatKai: newer version http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/656300
17:40 Niva: yep~
17:42 Niva: umm, as I mentioned earlier, in my opinion the flow kinda breaks because of the 1.0x -> 1.5x xD
17:42 Niva: just my opinion though...
17:43 HeatKai: i didn't change that because people have fun playing that part :I everytime i ask about that part,they say it was fine
17:43 HeatKai: maybe after i fix some more pokie's mod i'm going to ask for some more testplay
17:55 Niva: umm, did you PM'ed something while I'm disconnected? >_<
17:55 HeatKai: I dc'ed too well yeah
17:55 HeatKai: i didn't change that because people have fun playing that part :I everytime i ask about that part,they say it was fine
17:56 Niva: oh, not my side's problem though
17:56 HeatKai: after i fix some more pokie's mod then i'm going to ask for some more testplay maybe?
17:56 Niva: anyway feel free to save and use this chatlog if you needed it HeatKai :D
17:56 Niva: okay~

I'm going to get some comment or suggestions about the places that doesn't feel right first. :3

Last edited by HeatKai 2013-03-16T12:15:24+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Pokie

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Pokie 2013-03-16T10:31:52+00:00

I've read the chat log, and some feedback here

:

I should apologize if my words were hurting you, since it's not a sight view as a MAT who should spread out bubbles, but as a mapper who make maps as well. It's always a benefit for improving yourself to be better and mature on everything, I'm glad to see that you're fine to accept these.

And...yea :< In my opinion, test plays doesn't help much if your map includes some serious issues. I'd recommend to get some specific moddings properly, which would be way more helpful! And I'm welcome for assisting as well, feel free to poke me in IRC if you've any questions. >_</

KRZY

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KRZY 2013-03-16T10:48:37+00:00

IRC modded, used both osu!client and mIRC for PMs so the logs are a bit weird

SPOILER

06:05 HeatKai: hi KRZY

06:05 HeatKai: I wonder would you mind testplay my beatmap?
06:05 KRZY: i wouldnt mind
06:05 KRZY: link?
06:05 *HeatKai is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/220918 HoneyWorks - Confession Rehearsal]
06:05 HeatKai: the diff is "My confession" thanks

06:06 HeatKai: I want some comment because Pokie says something about my diff :p
06:06 KRZY: is this gumi?
06:06 HeatKai: yes
06:09 KRZY: yeah i can see a couple of places where it didn't play right
06:09 KRZY: sec
06:10 KRZY: u want this in IRC or in a modpost?
06:11 HeatKai: Irc
06:11 KRZY: k
06:13 KRZY: 00:09:233 (5,6,7) - Stack notes under these so that it looks like this, and see how that sounds/plays http://puu.sh/2izT7
06:13 KRZY: 00:16:692 (1) - NC
06:14 HeatKai: so I should just stack it?
06:14 KRZY: ya that'd be fine
06:14 HeatKai: ok
06:14 KRZY: the kiai is mapped to the drums right
06:15 HeatKai: most of it yes,and some based on the voice too
06:17 KRZY: Alright so this is just going to be a suggestion
06:17 KRZY: and by that I mean a weaker suggestion
06:17 HeatKai: oh ok suggestions are good
06:17 HeatKai: xD
06:18 KRZY: I think, with the speedup in kiai, it might be better to follow the vocals mainly and follow the drums only at fill-ins
06:18 KRZY: so um
06:18 KRZY: the next screenshot will start with 00:58:206 (1) -
06:19 KRZY: http://puu.sh/2izYh http://puu.sh/2izYq http://puu.sh/2izYF http://puu.sh/2izYO
06:19 KRZY: don't worry about placement for a sec
06:19 KRZY: and see how that sounds to you
06:19 HeatKai: ok let me try first
06:19 KRZY: ok
06:20 HeatKai: it ends at?
06:20 KRZY: 01:06:476 (16) -
06:24 HeatKai: it do sounds good,but i'm more to the drums I guess.i don't feels comfortable with this one :/ sorry
06:24 KRZY: yeah it's totally fine
06:24 KRZY: it's how i would have done it i guess lol
06:25 HeatKai: oh xD
06:25 KRZY: k continuing
06:25 HeatKai: well because I'm basically sticked to Taiko mapping lol
06:25 KRZY: i see lol
06:25 HeatKai: xD
06:25 HeatKai: I'm more to instrument
06:25 HeatKai: x3
06:25 KRZY: 01:08:584 (1,2) - maybe stack this? This didn't play very well
06:25 KRZY: same goes to second kiai
06:25 HeatKai: oh the anti jump?
06:25 KRZY: it'd be consistent with 01:13:449 (1,2) - too if you stack
06:26 HeatKai: anti spacing*
06:26 KRZY: yeah
06:26 KRZY: the antijump that led into the kiai was good
06:26 KRZY: but that one felt awkward
06:26 HeatKai: ermm this would be more fun,but ok xD
06:27 KRZY: 01:17:016 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - personally i think this would play better without the slider http://puu.sh/2iA5U
06:27 KRZY: but up to you
06:27 KRZY: 01:38:421 (5) - you can make this have consistent spacing by um
06:28 KRZY: moving it to 178, 84
06:28 KRZY: 176,84
06:28 KRZY: or somewhere around there
06:28 KRZY: cuz right now it looks a bit warped? idk if that's the right word http://puu.sh/2iA7z
06:28 HeatKai: yeah done
06:29 HeatKai: fix both of that ^
06:33 HeatKai: so i should add a circle perhaps?
06:36 HeatKai: lol forgot to read that oops wrong link
06:36 KRZY: lol
06:36 HeatKai: so i should delete that first 2 circles
06:36 HeatKai: then make it as repeat?
06:37 KRZY: i made it as a repeat since all three beats have bass drums on it
06:37 KRZY: but it's up to you
06:39 HeatKai: fixed
06:39 KRZY: great
06:39 KRZY: my last suggestion is to remove 02:20:348 (5)
06:39 KRZY: since compared to 02:20:916 (7,8,9), where the pattern clearly follows the drums,
06:39 KRZY: what
06:39 KRZY: well the link still works
06:39 KRZY: anyway
06:40 KRZY: in contrast, 02:20:348 (5) does not have a beat on it
06:40 HeatKai: deleted
06:40 KRZY: right that's all from me
06:41 KRZY: good luck with the mapset
06:41 HeatKai: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/656352 can't be map beautifully,3 things and the spacing is far xD
06:41 HeatKai: well thank you! post this irc in the forum :3! wanna kudosu!
06:41 KRZY: alright
06:41 KRZY: also
06:41 KRZY: lemme try that spacing sec
06:44 HeatKai: ok
06:45 HeatKai: Why are you so pro D: I'm not creative
06:45 HeatKai: I'm art-blind
06:45 HeatKai: lol
06:46 KRZY: you bet i am too lol but i guess mapping more helps

the code for a certain part of the map

139,88,118862,1,0,0:0:0:0:
139,88,119024,2,0,P|144:112|171:129,2,47.5
136,324,119511,1,0,0:0:0:0:

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-03-16T10:52:49+00:00

nice suggestions ;w; I love it thanks KRZY!

Pokie wrote:
I've read the chat log, and some feedback here :

I should apologize if my words were hurting you, since it's not a sight view as a MAT who should spread out bubbles, but as a mapper who make maps as well. It's always a benefit for improving yourself to be better and mature on everything, I'm glad to see that you're fine to accept these.

And...yea :< In my opinion, test plays doesn't help much if your map includes some serious issues. I'd recommend to get some specific moddings properly, which would be way more helpful! And I'm welcome for assisting as well, feel free to poke me in IRC if you've any questions. >_</

don't worry! I'll ask someone who can testplay and gives suggestions xD
it's ok I'm good :3/ Pokie moe~

Crimmi

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Crimmi 2013-03-18T23:04:09+00:00

Modding, CrimmiStyle!

Red, Gotta fix.
Blue, Suggestion
Personal Opinion

General

"kokuhaku yokou renshu ChorusP" is missing in the tags in "[ychao's Confession]".

pieguy's Confession

Good, clean difficulty.

alacat's Confession

02:21:889 (x) - Maybe add a note here so it ends properly?

My Confession

AR -1
NOTE: Why i'm saying this is because you have 185 BPM, 1.90 SV & on top of that, you got 1.50x slider speed at the Kiai which makes it more difficult to play with your current AR. I tried it with AR 8, and it's as equally as good, but try it first before responding.

00:15:070 (7) - Stack this under (1).
01:42:970 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix this pattern like this: http://puu.sh/2k7go

ychao's Confession

The Kiai times aren't in sync with the other difficulties:

The 3 previous difficulties have these Kiai times:

Kiai #1: 00:58:206 - 01:17:665
Kiai #2: 02:01:132 - 02:21:889

This is the current Kiai setting:

Kiai #1: 00:58:206 - 01:08:584
Kiai #2: 02:01:123 - 02:11:502

There are also some green points you need to snap:

SPOILER

01:44:258 - snap to 01:44:267
01:45:556 - snap to 01:45:565
01:55:934 - snap to 01:55:943
01:58:366 - snap to 01:58:375
01:59:826 - snap to 01:59:835
02:01:123 - snap to 02:01:132
02:10:691 - snap to 02:10:700
02:11:015 - snap to 02:11:024
02:11:502 - snap to 02:11:511
02:21:880 - snap to 02:21:889
02:26:096 - snap to 02:26:105
02:32:258 - snap to 02:32:267
02:34:853 - snap to 02:34:862
02:36:475 - snap to 02:36:484

That's it I guess, I hope this mod is useful to you! (sorry if it's a bit small)

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-03-19T12:12:37+00:00

i fix the second mod on my diff and the tags on ychao's diff.
NOTE: ychao update your diff first,then fix the diff.

Leorda

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Leorda 2013-03-20T11:31:58+00:00

Yo

[General]
* Your diff name makes players confuse because they don't know which is harder/easier diff. Consider to change diff name into difficulty name (e.g. "pieguy's Easy", "Hard")

[pieguy's Confession]
00:49:773 (3) - Move to X;136 and Y:180 for better flow (nazi)
00:51:719 (2,1) - Can you add an object between this object? I feels empty for this space
00:56:908 (3) - Normal-sampleset here is not fit, use soft-sample
01:55:943 (1,1) - Same suggestion as 00:51:719 (2,1)

[alacat's Confession]
00:23:179 (4) - Replace this slider into 2 slider, since you snap the object every white tick, like 00:20:584 (3,4)
00:54:962 (4) - Make a same slider as 00:54:314 (3)? (nazi)
01:29:664 (2) - Add clap at repeating slider
01:31:610 (3) - ^
01:35:827 (4) - Add clap at head slider

[My Confession]
00:06:152 - Add note here since your previous pattern is following guitar
00:15:070 (6) - Move 3 grid right for stacking (1)? (nazi)
00:51:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing of (1,2,3) is not equal with (4,5,6). Is this intentional?
00:57:881 (7) - Remove 1 repeating slider, so the players will easily get 300 in next object
01:02:746 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Whistle here doesn't fit
02:05:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
02:21:889 (1) - Silence this spinner at end?

[ychao's Confession]
* AR +1?

01:09:233 (2) - New combo here, since previous slider is a 0,5x slider
02:01:132 - Unsnapped kiai times (nazi)
02:11:511 - ^

Good luck

alacat

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alacat 2013-03-23T16:05:33+00:00

Thanks :>
http://puu.sh/2mx7q

pieguyn

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pieguyn 2013-03-25T07:19:33+00:00

WVS wrote:
pieguy:
actually, this diff could use more hitsounds to remove some boring parts like alacat's but it's all up to you. not sure exactly what's wrong, maybe point out a specific example so I can check it?
1. 01:17:908 - put the break time at 01:18:962 - would be better (drag it into the 3/4 timing) oh, I thought I did that >< done
2. 01:29:664 (2) - sampleset Drum + Finish? I'm not very comfortable with drum sampleset at all so I'll just leave it ._.
3. 02:11:511 - end Kiai then start Kiai again at 02:11:835 - ? oh I think it should be fine, the other diffs don't do this so I'd like to keep it consistent @_@
4. 02:27:078 (1) - what's the point of finish in here o.o .. doesn't really make sense.. try remove it then add whistle on 02:27:403 (2) - ? removed finish, but didn't add whistle to keep with pattern

thanks for mod

Leorda wrote:
[pieguy's Confession]
00:49:773 (3) - Move to X;136 and Y:180 for better flow (nazi) ok
00:51:719 (2,1) - Can you add an object between this object? I feels empty for this space ok :3
00:56:908 (3) - Normal-sampleset here is not fit, use soft-sample imo normal hitsound creates more of a "stop" feeling here, so keep it for now
01:55:943 (1,1) - Same suggestion as 00:51:719 (2,1) done :3

thanks for mod~ =w=

SPOILER

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HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-04-01T08:14:38+00:00

all updated waiting for ychao's diff.
edit:ychao is a lazy panda.

ychao

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ychao 2013-04-07T10:17:44+00:00

Here it is. Sorry for the delay

Thanks for the mod, Crimmi and Leorda. Remapped for the most part for better flow; Kiai times are synchronised and those unsnapped timing points resnapped.

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HeatKai 2013-04-07T14:49:49+00:00

at last! updated XD

Andrea

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Andrea 2013-04-07T19:46:14+00:00

~pieguy's Confession~

00:56:908 (3,1) - I'd try to avoid stacking these two objects together, it might be confusing to read for beginners at first sight.
00:58:206 (1) - Add a finish at the begin of this slider to emphasize with the strong beat of the song.
01:55:943 (1,1) - Try to place these two objects on the same place, to follow your previous pattern.
02:01:132 (1) - Add a finish on this circle to emphasize with the strong beat of the song.
02:27:078 (1) - It would be better if you don't center this circle after spinner due to the previous hitburst, try to place it here instead.
SPOILER

~alacat's Confession~

00:56:908 (3,4) - I don't like these two circles stacked together, make them like this instead.
SPOILER
01:38:421 (1) - Remove this new combo from here, it's not necessary to have it.
01:59:835 (3,4) - I don't like these two circles stacked together, make them like I said above.
02:36:808 (1,2) - Inconsistent spacing, please make sure to fix it with using distance snap properly.

~My Confession~

00:23:827 (5) - New combo due to the jump and spacing change.
00:36:638 (4,5) - I'd prefer if you keep the same spacing on the whole pattern, this small jump feels too random to me.
00:46:530 (5) - New combo due to the new stanza and music change.
00:51:719 (1,2,3) - Wrong spacing, please make sure to fix this with distance snap correctly.
00:56:908 (5) - New combo due to the new stanza and spacing change.
01:32:907 (1) - Add a clap at the begin and end of this slider, it feels like you're missing it.
02:11:511 (1,2) - This pattern might be confusing to read at first sight, I think it would be better if you stack these two objects together, like you did on the other kiai time.

~ychao's Confession~

Increase HP Drain and OD by at least 1 or 2 ticks, it's way too low for this kind of difficulty right now.
01:08:584 (1) - Even though there's a new combo here, this anti-jump plays really bad, move this slider somewhere else please.
01:51:403 (4) - This slider is touching the HP Bar, try to move it down a bit please.
02:21:889 (1) - Add a whistle at the end of this spinner to emphasize with the guitar on the music.

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HeatKai 2013-04-07T19:54:41+00:00

Andrea wrote:
~My Confession~
02:11:511 (1,2) - This pattern might be confusing to read at first sight, I think it would be better if you stack these two objects together, like you did on the other kiai time.

Everything fixed except this

!
waiting for others.

ychao

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ychao 2013-04-08T14:53:52+00:00

Andrea wrote:
~ychao's Confession~
Increase HP Drain and OD by at least 1 or 2 ticks, it's way too low for this kind of difficulty right now.
01:08:584 (1) - Even though there's a new combo here, this anti-jump plays really bad, move this slider somewhere else please.
01:51:403 (4) - This slider is touching the HP Bar, try to move it down a bit please.
02:21:889 (1) - Add a whistle at the end of this spinner to emphasize with the guitar on the music.

Thanks for the mod, Andrea. Effected all your suggestions.

Latest update.

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HeatKai 2013-04-08T23:18:23+00:00

waiting for alacat and pieguy now :3

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alacat 2013-04-10T15:14:56+00:00

Thanks andrea ~ :3

http://puu.sh/2xtLu

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HeatKai 2013-04-14T05:57:54+00:00

waiting for pieguy now

pieguyn

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pieguyn 2013-04-15T02:34:17+00:00

Andrea wrote:
~pieguy's Confession~
00:56:908 (3,1) - I'd try to avoid stacking these two objects together, it might be confusing to read for beginners at first sight. I think it's fine, there's a lot of time until the next note + the new hitburst makes it a lot easier to see. also, I'm not sure how I can change it without breaking my pattern @_@
00:58:206 (1) - Add a finish at the begin of this slider to emphasize with the strong beat of the song. yep
01:55:943 (1,1) - Try to place these two objects on the same place, to follow your previous pattern. done~~
02:01:132 (1) - Add a finish on this circle to emphasize with the strong beat of the song. yep
02:27:078 (1) - It would be better if you don't center this circle after spinner due to the previous hitburst, try to place it here instead. ok =w=
SPOILER

thanks for mod

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HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-04-15T06:12:34+00:00

updated!!!

JYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

horatio

Leorda

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Leorda 2013-04-23T10:31:14+00:00

Whazzup

[General]
* Your diff name makes the players are hard to understand which one is easiest/harder diff. Consider to change your diff name into the difficulty name (e.g. "pieguy's Normal")

[pieguy's Confession]
01:10:206 (3) - Since normal-hitnormal is hit every 3 white tick, the normal-hitnormal should on at repeating slider, instead tail slider

[My Confession]
00:18:638 (1,2) - Swap new combo for changing pattern?
01:02:827 (2,3,4,5) - These whistle are just noisy, you have to change it
02:05:754 (2,3,4) - ^
02:26:916 - Add note here for following the guitar sound?

[ychao's Confession]
01:51:889 (5) - Spacing error
02:21:078 (6,7,8,9,10) - For better pattern, make a pattern like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/718112

Once you done, forum PM me

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-04-23T12:11:07+00:00

why does people call it as noise? I was following a loud beat there it sounds like whistle too. :I I won't change that .I love it tbh. :I sorry Leo other's fix!

ychao

493 posts

Joined August 2010

ychao 2013-04-23T13:40:00+00:00

Leorda wrote:
[ychao's Confession]
01:51:889 (5) - Spacing error
02:21:078 (6,7,8,9,10) - For better pattern, make a pattern like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/718112

Amended the first's spacing and rearranged the second bit. Tweaked some hit-sounding as well. Thanks, Leorda.

Latest.

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-04-23T14:26:21+00:00

I won't change the diff name i think

ychao

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ychao 2013-04-23T14:39:36+00:00

HK, if you are not planning on changing the diff names perhaps you can list the corresponding difficulty level for each gd in the op? Maybe this can ease those concerns.

Of course, this will not change anything in-game, but then one can roughly judge the difficulty by the order (which follows the star rating) anyway. Just my 2¢.

I sure hope my gd is not the one causing this issue.

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-04-23T14:45:54+00:00

Nope and okay I'll post it at creator's word for now.

pieguyn

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Joined May 2009

pieguyn 2013-04-25T01:27:55+00:00

Leorda wrote:
[pieguy's Confession]
01:10:206 (3) - Since normal-hitnormal is hit every 3 white tick, the normal-hitnormal should on at repeating slider, instead tail slider fixed

thanks for mod

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-04-25T04:23:05+00:00

updated.

Umi

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Joined November 2012

Umi 2013-05-10T23:41:23+00:00

hi hi o/

ussless post. just to say that i really like this map and i want her ranked >3<

That's all take this (>'-')>

go go ranked !

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-05-11T06:35:27+00:00

aww thank you

I'll try my best :3

NoHitter

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NoHitter 2013-05-18T09:20:27+00:00

[General]
- Set the title to its real romanized form -> Kokuhaku Yoko Renshu then add Confession Rehearsal to the tags
- 00:17:016 () - Add a red timing section here for the metronome.
- 00:27:070 () - Also add a red timing section here.

[pieguy's Easy]
- 00:09:881 (1,2) - Spacing here is a bit lower. Increase spacing.
- 00:15:395 (3) - I would suggest making this into a curve slider. As it is, it looks not so good IMO. Like this.
- 00:19:028 () - Map this part? You already got a break in the middle of the song.
- 00:47:827 (1) - Position this here for better circular flow?
- 00:51:719 (3) - Make this more symmetric?
- 01:15:070 (3,1) - Align (1) so the previous slider points to it? Like this?
- 01:56:430 () - Add break here.
- 02:05:673 (4) - Move this up a bit so it follows the previous slider. Like this.
- 02:13:457 (4,5) - Form a perfect triangle with these?

[alacat's Normal]
- 00:13:773 (1,2) - The arrangement looks odd. I suggest changing it to something like this?
- 01:15:070 (3) - Blanket this properly with previous slider? Like this?
- 01:40:367 () - Just map from here. No need for a break here.

[ychao's Hard]
- Very good difficulty. Flow is nice.
- I recommend using Tick Rate 2 because of the slowdown. Makes it easier to read the slowdown.
- - 00:19:028 () - Map this part? You already got a break in the middle of the song.
- 01:43:943 (6,7,8) - Kind of confusing for a Hard. Please remove (7), or at the very least don't stack (6) and (7).
- 02:11:511 (1,2,3) - Similar to above.

[Insane]
- For the chorus, 1.5x is too fast in my opinion. 1.2 or 1.3 is fair enough if you want a speed up.
- I recommend using Tick Rate 2 because of the slowdown. Makes it easier to read the slowdown.
- 00:01:125 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - These play awkwardly. Not that they don't follow the music, but they still play oddly. Make them sliders maybe?
- 00:09:719 () - Add a note here. You should follow the vocals here IMO.
- 00:10:368 () - Same as above.
- 00:27:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Using plain 1/1 is boring here IMO. Add some 1/2? http://puu.sh/2VNPc.jpg
- 00:29:665 (1,2,3) - Follow the vocals here? http://puu.sh/2VNNy.jpg
- 00:49:449 (6) - This is not properly in the center.
- 01:04:043 (3) - This is covered by the hitbursts of the previous stream.I recommend against it.
- 01:28:691 -> 01:37:772 - The 0.5x here doesn't fit the song, and makes the sliders look weird and compressed.
- 01:40:367 () - Just map from here. No need for a break here.

HeatKai

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HeatKai 2013-05-18T10:38:20+00:00

NoHitter wrote:
[General]
- Set the title to its real romanized form -> Kokuhaku Yoko Renshu then add Confession Rehearsal to the tags
- 00:17:016 () - Add a red timing section here for the metronome.
- 00:27:070 () - Also add a red timing section here. I don't really think this two timing is necessary I will talk to you irc.

[Insane]
- For the chorus, 1.5x is too fast in my opinion. 1.2 or 1.3 is fair enough if you want a speed up. but I like 1.5 ;_;
- I recommend using Tick Rate 2 because of the slowdown. Makes it easier to read the slowdown.
- 00:01:125 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - These play awkwardly. Not that they don't follow the music, but they still play oddly. Make them sliders maybe? I can't think of a better way.
- 00:09:719 () - Add a note here. You should follow the vocals here IMO.
- 00:10:368 () - Same as above.
- 00:27:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Using plain 1/1 is boring here IMO. Add some 1/2? http://puu.sh/2VNPc.jpg
- 00:29:665 (1,2,3) - Follow the vocals here? http://puu.sh/2VNNy.jpg
- 00:49:449 (6) - This is not properly in the center.
- 01:04:043 (3) - This is covered by the hitbursts of the previous stream.I recommend against it.
- 01:28:691 -> 01:37:772 - The 0.5x here doesn't fit the song, and makes the sliders look weird and compressed. this part sounds lower then the other part and i want to keep this calm and slow
- 01:40:367 () - Just map from here. No need for a break here.want to give a break and waiting for the loud instruments come back

Thank you! :3 we still can talk in irc after this.

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mintong89 2013-05-18T11:08:21+00:00

hi NoHitter and HeatKai

Title Name should be " Kokuhaku Yokou Renshuu " but not " Kokuhaku Yoko Renshu "

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HeatKai 2013-05-18T11:57:42+00:00

oh yep double ' u ' @@'' fixed

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