I'd just like to point out things like k k d, d k d, should not be avoided because "beginners" can't play them. We are not beginners, we do not know this, we can't speak for a huge playerbase of newbies, nor can a handful of testplayers. BPM does not matter, if the player isn't comfortable with that BPM they will not play the map, and just because the song is a certain BPM, that does not mean you can exclude patterns, map to how the song goes, not to what the BPM is. This doesn't mean you need to make the map bland and noneducational for learning the game.
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I talked to MMzz, so no worries. We came to a consensus.
aabc271 checked the Oni and he said it is fine, so I will make the last checks? Sorry for letting you waiting.
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Kantan]
01:23:893 (1,2,3) - all d? So it fits better to the previous one: 01:18:840 (1,2,3) -
01:53:893 (1,1) - k d? So you follow the kat rythm.
02:23:104 (11) - Instead of a slider, it might better to continue having notes.
02:26:735 (2) - Move to 02:26:893 ? Sometimes it isn't possible to avoid another spacing. So that would be fine.
I'm fine with the Kantan now.
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Futsuu]
{
00:54:683 (11,18) - both k
00:57:367 - add a d here
00:58:630 - ^
} What do you think about this? I think in this way the patterns would be a bit smoother.
01:03:525 (6,10,15,17) - Suggesting kat on these notes, so you have a little more variation.
01:12:210 (3) - kat?
Hey, Futsuu was pretty nice.
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Muzukashii]
02:16:315 (1,2,1,1,1) - Maybe d d k k d is better? d d k d k dosen't fit so well with the previous d d k k d.
Good Muzukashii. Decent mapped.
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Oni]
01:27:289 (1) - Consider having here a kat. plays a bit easier and fits maybe better to the song?
02:28:473 - Ah, this comes kinda out of the sudden. Fine with the music, but maybe it would be good to delete notes 02:29:026 (5) - , 02:29:657 (5) - .
Or you use this pattern:
Well, Kantan was the diff. which was -in my opinion- problematic before. The other diffs are fine as the other people said before.
Just here and there some suggestions from me.
Since you waited because of me for a rebubble, I will ask MMzz to check it one more time. Also I will ask another BAT to help.
Sorry for late response.
aabc271 checked the Oni and he said it is fine, so I will make the last checks? Sorry for letting you waiting.
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01:23:893 (1,2,3) - all d? So it fits better to the previous one: 01:18:840 (1,2,3) -
01:53:893 (1,1) - k d? So you follow the kat rythm.
02:23:104 (11) - Instead of a slider, it might better to continue having notes.
02:26:735 (2) - Move to 02:26:893 ? Sometimes it isn't possible to avoid another spacing. So that would be fine.
I'm fine with the Kantan now.
[
{
00:54:683 (11,18) - both k
00:57:367 - add a d here
00:58:630 - ^
} What do you think about this? I think in this way the patterns would be a bit smoother.
01:03:525 (6,10,15,17) - Suggesting kat on these notes, so you have a little more variation.
01:12:210 (3) - kat?
Hey, Futsuu was pretty nice.
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02:16:315 (1,2,1,1,1) - Maybe d d k k d is better? d d k d k dosen't fit so well with the previous d d k k d.
Good Muzukashii. Decent mapped.
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01:27:289 (1) - Consider having here a kat. plays a bit easier and fits maybe better to the song?
02:28:473 - Ah, this comes kinda out of the sudden. Fine with the music, but maybe it would be good to delete notes 02:29:026 (5) - , 02:29:657 (5) - .
Or you use this pattern:
Well, Kantan was the diff. which was -in my opinion- problematic before. The other diffs are fine as the other people said before.
Just here and there some suggestions from me.
Since you waited because of me for a rebubble, I will ask MMzz to check it one more time. Also I will ask another BAT to help.
Sorry for late response.
Topic Starter
thanks again~OnosakiHito wrote:
I talked to MMzz, so no worries. We came to a consensus.
aabc271 checked the Oni and he said it is fine, so I will make the last checks? Sorry for letting you waiting.
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01:23:893 (1,2,3) - all d? So it fits better to the previous one: 01:18:840 (1,2,3) - k
01:53:893 (1,1) - k d? So you follow the kat rythm. k
02:23:104 (11) - Instead of a slider, it might better to continue having notes.k
02:26:735 (2) - Move to 02:26:893 ? Sometimes it isn't possible to avoid another spacing. So that would be fine. no, considering I change pattern to fit circle that replace slider in 02:23:104 (11)
I'm fine with the Kantan now.
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{
00:54:683 (11,18) - both k
00:57:367 - add a d here
00:58:630 - ^
} What do you think about this? I think in this way the patterns would be a bit smoother. prefer current pattern, let's say this is introduction part for 1/2 notes
01:03:525 (6,10,15,17) - Suggesting kat on these notes, so you have a little more variation. here's ok, but kat used at (14,16,18
01:12:210 (3) - kat? not really like it...
Hey, Futsuu was pretty nice.
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02:16:315 (1,2,1,1,1) - Maybe d d k k d is better? d d k d k dosen't fit so well with the previous d d k k d. following guitar here, imo still good
Good Muzukashii. Decent mapped.
[
01:27:289 (1) - Consider having here a kat. plays a bit easier and fits maybe better to the song? k
02:28:473 - Ah, this comes kinda out of the sudden. Fine with the music, but maybe it would be good to delete notes 02:29:026 (5) - , 02:29:657 (5) - .
Or you use this pattern: do something else
Well, Kantan was the diff. which was -in my opinion- problematic before. The other diffs are fine as the other people said before.
Just here and there some suggestions from me.
Since you waited because of me for a rebubble, I will ask MMzz to check it one more time. Also I will ask another BAT to help.
Sorry for late response.
I was the one who popped the bubble, so I guess it is time to do something about it.
I will check the map later once again. Having a confirmation from your side would be good.
I will check the map later once again. Having a confirmation from your side would be good.
I will do ultimate checks to be sure everything goes fine.
[General]
- Any reason why you have different audio volum?
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Oni and the other three difficulties at 00:08:104. (use AIMod)
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Muzukashiii and Kantan at 00:01:315. (use AIMod)
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Muzukashiii and Futsuu at 00:01:315. (use AIMod)
[ Kantan]
[ Futsuu]
[ Muzukashii]
[ Oni]
I'm fine with the Oni.
The spread is a bit high between the diffs, but that's rather due to the songs lenght.
As Gezo said, he will check it as well. If possible find one more modder, to be sure everything is fine, and we are ready to go for a bubble.
- Any reason why you have different audio volum?
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Oni and the other three difficulties at 00:08:104. (use AIMod)
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Muzukashiii and Kantan at 00:01:315. (use AIMod)
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Muzukashiii and Futsuu at 00:01:315. (use AIMod)
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SPOILER
Notes
00:08:735 (7,1) - Try the constalation below, because a single don dosen't fit so well here. Slider might be more preferable instead of a spinner.
01:09:998 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Normaly I would say this might be due to different spacings confusing, but if we would change the pattern it would be even mroe confusing since it dosen't follow the beat good enough. So we will keep it like that.
01:26:735 (5) - Slider start at 01:27:051
01:32:735 (1) - Instead of a spinner just use the notes I suggets below(d d D), because you didn't used one in the other diffs as well.
02:14:104~02:22:314 - I suggest following pattern for a better consistency which is easier to follow by beginners:
02:23:104 (17) - Questionable, but can be kept because of the song.
02:27:051 (3,4) - k d ?
02:41:261 (3) - You could expand the slider up to 02:42:840 and delete the note at this timeline.
03:14:735 (3) - Move this note to 03:15:051 and delete note 03:15:682 (1) - because, this can be confusing for beginners.
00:08:735 (7,1) - Try the constalation below, because a single don dosen't fit so well here. Slider might be more preferable instead of a spinner.
01:09:998 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Normaly I would say this might be due to different spacings confusing, but if we would change the pattern it would be even mroe confusing since it dosen't follow the beat good enough. So we will keep it like that.
01:26:735 (5) - Slider start at 01:27:051
01:32:735 (1) - Instead of a spinner just use the notes I suggets below(d d D), because you didn't used one in the other diffs as well.
02:14:104~02:22:314 - I suggest following pattern for a better consistency which is easier to follow by beginners:
02:23:104 (17) - Questionable, but can be kept because of the song.
02:27:051 (3,4) - k d ?
02:41:261 (3) - You could expand the slider up to 02:42:840 and delete the note at this timeline.
03:14:735 (3) - Move this note to 03:15:051 and delete note 03:15:682 (1) - because, this can be confusing for beginners.
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SPOILER
Notes
00:41:104 (5) - Delete this note? Current pattern might be too much.
00:45:841 (1) - Maybe this as d, because 00:42:841 (1,1) - emphasizes the vocal already good, so the don can emphasize the deep vocal.
02:14:104~02:17:893 - How about the constlation below, you can apply it from 02:18:525 up to spinner as well.
00:41:104 (5) - Delete this note? Current pattern might be too much.
00:45:841 (1) - Maybe this as d, because 00:42:841 (1,1) - emphasizes the vocal already good, so the don can emphasize the deep vocal.
02:14:104~02:17:893 - How about the constlation below, you can apply it from 02:18:525 up to spinner as well.
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SPOILER
Notes
02:42:052 (1) - Better to expand the slider up to 02:42:998, so it shows the end of current section.
03:14:104 (1) - make this to a finisher or remove the previous one.
03:16:473 (3) - delete this note because in this way it sounds better and the finisher stands alone.
02:42:052 (1) - Better to expand the slider up to 02:42:998, so it shows the end of current section.
03:14:104 (1) - make this to a finisher or remove the previous one.
03:16:473 (3) - delete this note because in this way it sounds better and the finisher stands alone.
[
I'm fine with the Oni.
The spread is a bit high between the diffs, but that's rather due to the songs lenght.
As Gezo said, he will check it as well. If possible find one more modder, to be sure everything is fine, and we are ready to go for a bubble.
Topic Starter
didn't update this while waiting for mod, so... thrown to graveyard
k, thanks again~OnosakiHito wrote:
[General]
- Any reason why you have different audio volum? current volume is too loud on some section (especially on only piano & vocal section), so I lower its volume,, it isn't like I use it everywhere
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Oni and the other three difficulties at 00:08:104. (use AIMod) fixed
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Muzukashiii and Kantan at 00:01:315. (use AIMod) fixed
- Uninherited timing points conflict between Muzukashiii and Futsuu at 00:01:315. (use AIMod) fixed
[SPOILERNotes
00:08:735 (7,1) - Try the constalation below, because a single don dosen't fit so well here. Slider might be more preferable instead of a spinner. k
01:09:998 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Normaly I would say this might be due to different spacings confusing, but if we would change the pattern it would be even mroe confusing since it dosen't follow the beat good enough. So we will keep it like that.
01:26:735 (5) - Slider start at 01:27:051 k
01:32:735 (1) - Instead of a spinner just use the notes I suggets below(d d D), because you didn't used one in the other diffs as well. use d d k, not really like finisher there
02:14:104~02:22:314 - I suggest following pattern for a better consistency which is easier to follow by beginners: k
02:23:104 (17) - Questionable, but can be kept because of the song.
02:27:051 (3,4) - k d ? k
02:41:261 (3) - You could expand the slider up to 02:42:840 and delete the note at this timeline. k
03:14:735 (3) - Move this note to 03:15:051 and delete note 03:15:682 (1) - because, this can be confusing for beginners. k
[SPOILERNotes
00:41:104 (5) - Delete this note? Current pattern might be too much. k
00:45:841 (1) - Maybe this as d, because 00:42:841 (1,1) - emphasizes the vocal already good, so the don can emphasize the deep vocal. due to consistency I'll keep it like that. it still sounds good too
02:14:104~02:17:893 - How about the constlation below, you can apply it from 02:18:525 up to spinner as well. k, use it
[SPOILERNotes
02:42:052 (1) - Better to expand the slider up to 02:42:998, so it shows the end of current section. k
03:14:104 (1) - make this to a finisher or remove the previous one. no, there isn't finish sound and drum pattern already different with previous one
03:16:473 (3) - delete this note because in this way it sounds better and the finisher stands alone. k
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I'm fine with the Oni.
The spread is a bit high between the diffs, but that's rather due to the songs lenght.
As Gezo said, he will check it as well. If possible find one more modder, to be sure everything is fine, and we are ready to go for a bubble.
Rechecking and soon. SOUNNE SHIKYU.
[Oni]
00:27:841 (1,1) - Any reason why d and k are swapped here ? Only here the drum snare isn't mapped to a k in the whole section.
Only thing that caught my attention. All the rest is also fine.
[Muzukashii]
00:23:420 (1) - I don't know I can listen to it 50 times it will still sound odd to me due to its placement within the whole pattern (dk k dddk) :I
00:28:473 (1) - same here
01:27:683 (8) - D instead ? It's a simple crash/kick here.
[Futsuu]
00:16:946 - 00:21:999 (3) - was found quite empty
You've mapped on upbeats and remarked a k pattern on beat 2 every 2 bars, then you switched to beat 8 every 2 bars.
01:15:526 (1) - Make this a K ? The note sounds about the same as 01:15:052 (7) -.
01:51:999 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - sounds off compared to the other kiai and the rest of the pattern, you might want to change this one
02:10:631 (3,1) - D K ? same as above.
02:56:104 (5,1) - @^
[Kantan]
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>CONTINUE
NEW GAME
OPTIONS
[Oni]
00:27:841 (1,1) - Any reason why d and k are swapped here ? Only here the drum snare isn't mapped to a k in the whole section.
Only thing that caught my attention. All the rest is also fine.
[Muzukashii]
00:23:420 (1) - I don't know I can listen to it 50 times it will still sound odd to me due to its placement within the whole pattern (dk k dddk) :I
00:28:473 (1) - same here
01:27:683 (8) - D instead ? It's a simple crash/kick here.
[Futsuu]
00:16:946 - 00:21:999 (3) - was found quite empty
You've mapped on upbeats and remarked a k pattern on beat 2 every 2 bars, then you switched to beat 8 every 2 bars.
01:15:526 (1) - Make this a K ? The note sounds about the same as 01:15:052 (7) -.
01:51:999 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - sounds off compared to the other kiai and the rest of the pattern, you might want to change this one
02:10:631 (3,1) - D K ? same as above.
02:56:104 (5,1) - @^
[Kantan]
~
>CONTINUE
NEW GAME
OPTIONS
Topic Starter
thanks for mod ;w; soon~_Gezo_ wrote:
Rechecking and soon. SOUNNE SHIKYU.
[Oni]
00:27:841 (1,1) - Any reason why d and k are swapped here ? Only here the drum snare isn't mapped to a k in the whole section. fix'd
Only thing that caught my attention. All the rest is also fine.
[Muzukashii]
00:23:420 (1) - I don't know I can listen to it 50 times it will still sound odd to me due to its placement within the whole pattern (dk k dddk) :I change note after this to k, it should be better now~
00:28:473 (1) - same here ^
01:27:683 (8) - D instead ? It's a simple crash/kick here. k
[Futsuu]
00:16:946 - 00:21:999 (3) - was found quite empty try to fill with some notes and found it weird, so leave it like that
You've mapped on upbeats and remarked a k pattern on beat 2 every 2 bars, then you switched to beat 8 every 2 bars.
01:15:526 (1) - Make this a K ? The note sounds about the same as 01:15:052 (7) -. k
01:51:999 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - sounds off compared to the other kiai and the rest of the pattern, you might want to change this one fix'd
02:10:631 (3,1) - D K ? same as above. k
02:56:104 (5,1) - @^ k
[Kantan]
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>CONTINUE
NEW GAME
OPTIONS
Last recheck. Don't need to kd it, I got enough here. lol
Also thank you Gezo for your help.
[ Kantan]
02:43:314 - This one uneven pattern(d d d) worries me the whole time already, and I was thinking about how this can be solved. Now I got the idea for this:
In this way you can provide the same spacings instead of having different one which would make the job of playing the kiai easier for beginner. Also it sounds actually nice.
[ Muzukashii]
00:40:947 (1) - move to 00:40:788 because of the vocal. Plays and sounds better.
01:36:999 (12,1) - move to 01:36:840 because ^
[ Oni]
02:03:210 (5) - kat would be better, for consistency in this pattern.
02:07:314 - kkddddd ? At least this part should start with a kat as the previous patterns did.
PM me after you are done with this.
Also thank you Gezo for your help.
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02:43:314 - This one uneven pattern(d d d) worries me the whole time already, and I was thinking about how this can be solved. Now I got the idea for this:
In this way you can provide the same spacings instead of having different one which would make the job of playing the kiai easier for beginner. Also it sounds actually nice.
[
00:40:947 (1) - move to 00:40:788 because of the vocal. Plays and sounds better.
01:36:999 (12,1) - move to 01:36:840 because ^
[
02:03:210 (5) - kat would be better, for consistency in this pattern.
02:07:314 - kkddddd ? At least this part should start with a kat as the previous patterns did.
PM me after you are done with this.
Topic Starter
fix all except 02:07:314 on oni, not really like it also kkk sounds better to follow drum sound
Okay, I think the map should be ready for the re-bubble, so here you go: Have my first bubble 
'sup
[Kantan]
00:52:630 (1,2,3,1,1) - Let's fix this. it should be actually placed like this: http://puu.sh/3XIMA.jpg (first kat is on 00:52:630 -)
00:55:156 (2,3,4,5,6) - same here, where the pattern starts at 00:55:156 -
01:02:735 (1,2,3,1,1) - ^ 01:02:735
01:47:735 - apply the same for this kiai, so it is consistent
01:57:840 (3,1,1,1,1,2) - I have no idea why this is different from the other parts of the kiais
02:44:104 (1,1,1) - eeeeh, snap on red tick (towards the upcoming dons)
Should be all. Call me back when fixed.
[Kantan]
00:52:630 (1,2,3,1,1) - Let's fix this. it should be actually placed like this: http://puu.sh/3XIMA.jpg (first kat is on 00:52:630 -)
00:55:156 (2,3,4,5,6) - same here, where the pattern starts at 00:55:156 -
01:02:735 (1,2,3,1,1) - ^ 01:02:735
01:47:735 - apply the same for this kiai, so it is consistent
01:57:840 (3,1,1,1,1,2) - I have no idea why this is different from the other parts of the kiais
02:44:104 (1,1,1) - eeeeh, snap on red tick (towards the upcoming dons)
Should be all. Call me back when fixed.
Topic Starter
only fix 01:57:840 (3,1,1,1,1,2) to make consistency with rest of kiai.
for kiai I follow drum (which is placed on white tick), not vocal
thanks for mod~ also I fix unsnapped notes on muzu and oni dem 15th post again
for kiai I follow drum (which is placed on white tick), not vocal
thanks for mod~ also I fix unsnapped notes on muzu and oni dem 15th post again
Well. Please do not change stuff on other diffs that hasn't been pointed up without logging all changes in detail, else you make the BAT shoot themselves when rechecking, when you give vague comments like "I DID CHANGE A FEW THINGS, BUT WHAT I CHANGED IS KEPT A SECRET!"
It took me ages to figure out what you changed (you placed new combos, what)
Since I disapprove the way the Kantan is mapped, I can only rebubble this.
@nextBAT: please check the pattern in the kiai of the "Kantan". (00:52:630 (1,2,3,1,1) -), if you can agree with this.
My service is done here. Good luck.
It took me ages to figure out what you changed (you placed new combos, what)
Since I disapprove the way the Kantan is mapped, I can only rebubble this.
@nextBAT: please check the pattern in the kiai of the "Kantan". (00:52:630 (1,2,3,1,1) -), if you can agree with this.
My service is done here. Good luck.
It is not a bad pattern I think! xDLoctav wrote:
@nextBAT: please check the pattern in the kiai of the "Kantan". (00:52:630 (1,2,3,1,1) -), if you can agree with this.
Yo
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- 00:47:261 (2) - D is overpower in my opinion , a small d is enough! xD
- 01:17:577 (1) - D ?
- 01:42:840 (2) - Same as 00:47:261 (2) - It is really overpower ;w;
- 02:03:209 (1) - End at 02:04:946 - sounds better
- 02:33:209 (1) - D!
- 02:35:735 (1) - Same as above!
- 02:48:682 (1) - End at 02:50:419 - ~
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- 00:21:525 - Add a circle?
- 00:47:261 (2) - d is better!
- 01:45:840 (1,1) - Switch there two objects please , means change two d D to D d, They will fit the background music well!!
- 02:57:998 (1) - I prefer d than k
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- 01:22:630 (1) - d
- 01:42:840 (2) - Yes , d please
Really nothing to say >< Nice Taiko map~
Call me back ~
Topic Starter
not much change, thanks for mod~bossandy wrote:
It is not a bad pattern I think! xDLoctav wrote:
@nextBAT: please check the pattern in the kiai of the "Kantan". (00:52:630 (1,2,3,1,1) -), if you can agree with this.
Yo
[Kantan]
- 00:47:261 (2) - D is overpower in my opinion , a small d is enough! xD imo it's okay
- 01:17:577 (1) - D ? for pattern wise it's pretty weird
- 01:42:840 (2) - Same as 00:47:261 (2) - It is really overpower ;w; same
- 02:03:209 (1) - End at 02:04:946 - sounds better no, feel lost something
- 02:33:209 (1) - D! ok
- 02:35:735 (1) - Same as above! ok
- 02:48:682 (1) - End at 02:50:419 - ~ same as 02:03:209 (1)
[Muzukashii]
- 00:21:525 - Add a circle? no, following lyric
- 00:47:261 (2) - d is better! D is ok
- 01:45:840 (1,1) - Switch there two objects please , means change two d D to D d, They will fit the background music well!! ok
- 02:57:998 (1) - I prefer d than k still use k, fit for keyboard sound
[Oni]
- 01:22:630 (1) - d yes, I use d every big white tick on this pattern, but for this one is kinda weird as guitar sound goes higher here
- 01:42:840 (2) - Yes , d please it's ok
Really nothing to say >< Nice Taiko map~
Call me back ~
Yes , Nice map
This map should to go!
Ranked!
This map should to go!
Ranked!
finally!!!!gratz~ \=w=/
grats
naaaano <3 congratz
sadly... I don't play Taiko ;_;
sadly... I don't play Taiko ;_;
gratz!
lol..
lol..
strums guit aR THE GAME HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN IMA HAJIMARI NO EYES
grats
grats
Cuz we need bigger image. HaHa.
Congratz on your map :3
weee
grats~
grats~
I've been waiting for this map ranked, and finally!!!
Congrats!!!
Congrats!!!
The first map I bubbled got ranked. Nice.
Congratulation, you waited long enough.
Congratulation, you waited long enough.
aw yay grats c:
how not to map kantan
it's just terrible
it's just terrible