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Mianki

Trash Boat wrote:

mathexpert, would u recommend me to watch K-ON!? because i'm kinda bored and can't decide with which anime i should re-introduce myself
PM mathexpert or t/145250
Ceph23
I thought I've already told you to watch that manly show.
Birdy
Late to the party, but I've used 2nnt since 2005 May (8 years old [was first stylized as 2 nnt, but I realized it looked dumb and most of the sites didn't allow spaces]) and it took me long enough to start using Static Noise Bird (mid-2012) / Equinox Songbird (mid-2013). Waiting for mid-2014~

Related confession because this post is way off-topic (in Off-Topic):
I still visit Neopets every summer (the first site where I used 2nnt as it is) :oops:
thelewa
been using thelewa for 10 years I think
yeahhhhh
Kanye West
i didnt even know what the internet was when i was 8
SaigonAlice
i find cave/other random shmup game fans who are too cool for touhou hipster elitists really distasteful
Mianki
I don't think I never really got the whole Touhou thing. Played 2 Touhou games and the songs were pretty cool but they started to get repetitive imo.
Liiraye

SaigonAlice wrote:

i find cave/other random shmup game fans who are too cool for touhou hipster elitists really distasteful

So basically you mean that unless I find touhou super cool and awesome I'm a distasteful hipster fag?

I think the same way about prejudice people like you then \:v/


edit: hmmm... I'm not sick enough to stay home today but I don't wanna work either wiiie I'm a good liar.
AlucPanda

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Related confession because this post is way off-topic (in Off-Topic):
I still visit Neopets every summer (the first site where I used 2nnt as it is) :oops:
Heh it seems we all have our childhood passions. I still visit Maplestory every summer and religiously track the development of Maplestory 2 :3
Rorona

AlucPanda wrote:

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Related confession because this post is way off-topic (in Off-Topic):
I still visit Neopets every summer (the first site where I used 2nnt as it is) :oops:
Heh it seems we all have our childhood passions. I still visit Maplestory every summer and religiously track the development of Maplestory 2 :3
I go back to Maplestory for making new characters every time there is one, like I'm going to make a beast tamer when it comes out. And then I quit in 2 weeks again.

Maplestory goes way back for me though, like I played before there was a cash shop.
AlucPanda

Rorona wrote:

AlucPanda wrote:

Maplestory goes way back for me though, like I played before there was a cash shop.
Ah yes, the good old days where we rolled for hours for that perfect 4/4 stat, considered Crimson Balrog to be the strongest monster ever, and stalked Tiger/Suuushi while hoarding their loot with Dark Sight hoho. MS always brings out the nostalgia in me <3
SaigonAlice

Liiraye wrote:

SaigonAlice wrote:

i find cave/other random shmup game fans who are too cool for touhou hipster elitists really distasteful

So basically you mean that unless I find touhou super cool and awesome I'm a distasteful hipster fag?

I think the same way about prejudice people like you then \:v/


edit: hmmm... I'm not sick enough to stay home today but I don't wanna work either wiiie I'm a good liar.
i knew i'd hurt someones feelings when i made that post, sorry about that.
Edit, but you're right, I am prejudiced. Im prejudiced against Chinese for the 1000 year invasion of Vietnam and the sino-Vietnamese war. Im prejudiced against the French for the 100 year occupation. Im prejudiced against Cambodians for Pol Pot. Im prejudiced against Americans for intiating war with Vietnam and the chemicals they left, creating birth defects. Im prejudiced against against Koreans for the rape of Vietnamese women during the war and mail order brides. Im prejudiced against Japanese for whale hunting and colonisation of Vietnam. Im prejudiced against Germans for their Nazi history. Im prejudiced against Nordics for Ive seen a number them involved in White supremacy. Im prejudiced against atheists for a few of them have been harassing people for having a religion. The list is endless and when I think about, its hypocritical because the Vietnamese and Catholics have done pretty horrible things too. Yet I still befriend these people, whether real life or online. Why? Because I feel the benefits of emotional support and purely just having another buddy to talk to outweighs my grudges. Im human and sad to say not perfect, I happen to be extremely good at something shared by many of us, being stupidly Judgemental. Unfortunately clinging to these prejudices is something i do too. We need more open minded people like you, Liiraye. Sorry, I really wanted to confess this to let out some "steam".
GladiOol
so you admit being a cunt.
Tanzklaue
everyone has prejudices, but that doesn't mean that they are good. you should work on reducing your prejudices, especially those that stem from relatively old conflicts (where most, if any, of the people who could be held responsible are dead already).
Jarby
I'm prejudiced against asteroids for wiping out dinosaurs
Zeraph
i like japanese people even if their grandparents raped my country ^____^
Cyclohexane
Hey, you don't see me complain about germany
vipto

Mr Color wrote:

Hey, you don't see me complain about germany
Huh...
Tanzklaue

Mr Color wrote:

Hey, you don't see me complain about germany
i know that i made an racist comment against french people somewhere as an answer to you.

you added me as a friend.

10/10 would racist again.
Sethlied

Mr Color wrote:

Hey, you don't see me complain about germany
German > French
do you want a croissant
Mango

Sethlied wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

Hey, you don't see me complain about germany
German > French
do you want a croissant
CAAAAN YOU FEEEEL THE LOOOOVE TONIGHTTTTTT
SaigonAlice

GladiOol wrote:

so you admit being a cunt.
yes

Tanzklaue wrote:

everyone has prejudices, but that doesn't mean that they are good. you should work on reducing your prejudices, especially those that stem from relatively old conflicts (where most, if any, of the people who could be held responsible are dead already).
i see. thank you.
Bweh
I don't know anything about this open-mind nonsense. That falls short whenever you're prompted by others to take up extremist, prejudiced, or illogical ideas you can't accept. Clearly, there is a point where you have to draw a line, even when your stance is complete neutrality.

Anyway, when you judge people, the best thing you can do is to do it fairly. Do it on a case-by-case basis, because people exist as individuals and not as groups. They can't help—as individuals—the standard or image others might make for them. Exceptions exist. People born now don't necessarily agree with what their country believed fifty or a thousand years ago. The public image is not necessarily the truth.

You ought to realize it yourself since you said you try to befriend people despite the prejudices in your mind. At least, for that much, I don't think of you as a bad person.

Then yet again, I never took you seriously because of the god bless thing in the first place but w/e.



inb4 do not judge lest you be judged
SaigonAlice

Brian OA wrote:

I don't know anything about this open-mind nonsense. That falls short whenever you're prompted by others to take up extremist, prejudiced, or illogical ideas you can't accept. Clearly, there is a point where you have to draw a line, even when your stance is complete neutrality.

Anyway, when you judge people, the best thing you can do is to do it fairly. Do it on a case-by-case basis, because people exist as individuals and not as groups. They can't help—as individuals—the standard or image others might make for them. Exceptions exist. People born now don't necessarily agree with what their country believed fifty or a thousand years ago. The public image is not necessarily the truth.

You ought to realize it yourself since you said you try to befriend people despite the prejudices in your mind. At least, for that much, I don't think of you as a bad person.

Then yet again, I never took you seriously because of the god bless thing in the first place but w/e.



inb4 do not judge lest you be judged
hmm okay i see your point and will try to apply it. god bless and thank you.
the funny thing is that i found my prejudices exclusively from the internet, reading articles and such.

one time i had a lao friend online, we were cool. as you might know it was on a highly nationalistic asian forum, the kind where they talk about pale skin beauty and the like. there was a forum fight between the lao and the viets, then he started talking bad about the vietnamese. i felt betrayed because i thought he knew better, but now i realized how much of a hyporcrite i am.
Bweh
Sometimes I wonder what committing a heinous crime would be like. Stuff along the lines of rape, serial murder, necrophilia, terrorism, etc. Can't see myself doing it or even having the motivation/sexual inclinations for it, but it's an experience no standard man would ever go through. I at least want to talk someone that has done any of the above.

On another note, I don't seem to have any motivation to finish that CYOA thread.
Sethlied

Brian OA wrote:

Sometimes I wonder what committing a heinous crime would be like. Stuff along the lines of rape, serial murder, necrophilia, terrorism, etc. Can't see myself doing it or even having the motivation/sexual inclinations for it, but it's an experience no standard man would ever go through. I at least want to talk someone that has done any of the above.

On another note, I don't seem to have any motivation to finish that CYOA thread.
>rape
>serial murder
those aren't even close to each other
SaigonAlice

Brian OA wrote:

Sometimes I wonder what committing a heinous crime would be like. Stuff along the lines of rape, serial murder, necrophilia, terrorism, etc. Can't see myself doing it or even having the motivation/sexual inclinations for it, but it's an experience no standard man would ever go through. I at least want to talk someone that has done any of the above.
wow, thats strange, i have those thoughts too. i've always dreamed about strangling my science teacher.
Ceph23
I have a friend who once raped a 17yr old girl.
He told me it was mostly out of anger. It was a mix of bad parents, bullies and bad influences that led him to do this. He's still in prison BTW.
I still call him friend because he really isn't a bad guy. He was always definetly nicer than me during highschool. I knew that he had problems with his dad, but something bad must have happened to get him to do something as bad as this.
Guess we should just be careful with the people around us.
Sethlied
brbrbrbrbbrbrbr i am retarded brbrbrbrbrbrbbr
Foxtrot

Ceph23 wrote:

I have a friend who once raped a 17yr old girl.
He told me it was mostly out of anger. It was a mix of bad parents, bullies and bad influences that led him to do this. He's still in prison BTW.
I still call him friend because he really isn't a bad guy. He was always definetly nicer than me during highschool. I knew that he had problems with his dad, but something bad must have happened to get him to do something as bad as this.
Guess we should just be careful with the people around us.
ugh

just because his parents were horrible (or whatever, really) to him it is not an excuse to cause harm to another innocent human being

do you know what kind of trauma it can give to the victim?

your "friend" is a pig, and a rapist; he can be the nicest guy in the world, but at the end he is still a rapist.

i can't believe you still dare to call him like that (i am not saying that you are stupid or anything, please don't get me wrong, but it's just unbelievable for me)
Jarby

Ceph23 wrote:

he really isn't a bad guy
Except for the part where he fucking raped a 17 year old what the fuck
dkun

Ceph23 wrote:

I have a friend who once raped a 17yr old girl.
He told me it was mostly out of anger. It was a mix of bad parents, bullies and bad influences that led him to do this. He's still in prison BTW.
I still call him friend because he really isn't a bad guy. He was always definetly nicer than me during highschool. I knew that he had problems with his dad, but something bad must have happened to get him to do something as bad as this.
Guess we should just be careful with the people around us.
anong klasing tao yan?

that's crazy. you don't do an unforgivable crime and expect people to still like you after. I respect your decision for still calling him your friend, but regardless of how nice he is, there is no excuse for rape.
Apex_old
You know there is a reason why the word "fuck", which hints at the sexual intercourse of a subject, is much more insulting than the word "damn", which directly hints at the death of a subject. So this means, raped at some perspectives is worse than death.

Wait, if it's like that why isn't there an anime about rape victims to capture all the powerful pathos and drama?
Ceph23

dkun wrote:

anong klasing tao yan?
Taong biktima ng masamang kapaligiran.

I agree that he did something really unforgivable and that he deserves every punishment he received and maybe even more. And maybe the only reason why I still call him friend is my foolish decision too try and see the good in all people. But I feel a bit guilty.
I mean I've known the guy for a very long time so I knew about the things that were hurting him. If I knew that these things would eventualy lead him to do something despicable, I would have done what I could to convince him not to.
It just bothers me that I never did anything to help him before it was too late.
So I still treat him like my friend.
DaddyCoolVipper

Ceph23 wrote:

dkun wrote:

anong klasing tao yan?
Taong biktima ng masamang kapaligiran.

I agree that he did something really unforgivable and that he deserves every punishment he received and maybe even more. And maybe the only reason why I still call him friend is my foolish decision too try and see the good in all people. But I feel a bit guilty.
I mean I've known the guy for a very long time so I knew about the things that were hurting him. If I knew that these things would eventualy lead him to do something despicable, I would have done what I could to convince him not to.
It just bothers me that I never did anything to help him before it was too late.
So I still treat him like my friend.
Just make sure you're not blaming his parents or whatever for it. Sure, they might've given him a hard life, but as Dulcet said- there's no excuses to hurt someone who's totally innocent like that, and *especially* not when it comes to rape. A lot of people get their lives absolutely ruined just because some guy decided to do that, eurghgh, you must have no idea how much it can hurt somebody.
AlucPanda

Ceph23 wrote:

I still call him friend because he really isn't a bad guy. He was always definetly nicer than me during highschool.
I can somewhat relate. First off, relax guys, Ceph is in no way trying to "justify" the crime or give an "excuse"; she's simply stating the essential core character of her friend. It is not always the case that someone who commits a crime is automatically and forever distinguished as a "bad guy". For instance, during acute depression I too have resorted to sexual means for relief. While nowhere near the degree of underage rape, I can at least understand the motives and pressures that led to his decision. (Relax, I said understand, not acknowledge).

Ceph, who knows what I would have done if not a single friend would stay by my side during my darkest of times. I understand this is a highly serious crime and understand why many would choose to ignore him. But I also understand why you still consider him a friend and still recognize his core character, and I encourage you to stay by his side and facilitate his reflective rehabilitation.
DaddyCoolVipper
There's not much rehabilitation if you're treating it as: "Oh, it wasn't really *him* doing it, it was because of his bad background!"

I don't know too much about 'murrican prisons, but they don't seem like they help much with this sort of behaviour. To be able to rape someone, your "core character" has to be the type that could. Even people with horrible lives can understand how horrible and wrong it is, never mind actually going out and doing it.
Ceph23
Ok point taken.
The guy is messed up like pickle flavored ice cream I get it. I know I can't blame it all on the shit that happened in his life and he deserves to get his dick get ripped apart by tigers or something. Maybe he decieved us by showing us a fake version of himself for 11 damned years and maybe he is rotten to the core.
But please understand he was my friend before he became like this. It's hard to just abandon a person you've grown up with because of a single defining moment. We WANT to see him change for the better.
As stupid and foolish as it might sound, we aren't giving up on him yet.
I don't expect many people to understand this.
Trash Boat
uff, thanks
DaddyCoolVipper

Ceph23 wrote:

Ok point taken.
The guy is messed up like pickle flavored ice cream I get it. I know I can't blame it all on the shit that happened in his life and he deserves to get his dick get ripped apart by tigers or something. Maybe he decieved us by showing us a fake version of himself for 11 damned years and maybe he is rotten to the core.
But please understand he was my friend before he became like this. It's hard to just abandon a person you've grown up with because of a single defining moment. We WANT to see him change for the better.
As stupid and foolish as it might sound, we aren't giving up on him yet.
I don't expect many people to understand this.
No, it's perfectly understandable. I still think you're trying to justify his actions just because of his life, but I guess that you really don't want to accept what happened. And you're definitely right about not abandoning him, he really needs help- I just don't want him to be taught that he did nothing wrong, and that it was all his parents' fault, etc.
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