Personally I think cursor movement is the most important. But if you ask "which is more important to train first?" then I'll say streaming, or I prefer to say accuracy, is the most important. It'll help you in the long run.
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or whatbuny wrote:
"mostly just natural skill"
what this guys said.silmarilen wrote:
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
but i suck at streamingsilmarilen wrote:
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
Only if you can't stream 222bpm which isn't even what makes freedom dive hard in the first placeJappyBabes wrote:
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or whatbuny wrote:
"mostly just natural skill"
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.Aqo wrote:
*looks at poll results* Yeah no seriously guys what
Streaming/everything related to clicking on buttons is WAAAAAAY more important in this game than jumps. Being good at jumps won't get you anywhere. Jumps in this game are frigging free anyway... FCing Atama/Big Black/Sousei with relax is as easy as a walk in the park (which is almost as easy as CTB!). clicking on circles fast or with good accuracy is the real thing that takes a ton of experience and training. There is no natural skill in this. Gotta practice like mad
Being good at streams will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous jumps.buny wrote:
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.
Who's that lmfao? Physical limitation and development applies for every human equally, so that's obviously complete bullcrap.darkmiz wrote:
buny wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
physicall limitation is completly different for every human. look at bodystatures, some people are to small to reach for something in 2 meter height.Pacemaker wrote:
Who's that lmfao? Physical limitation and development applies for every human equally, so that's obviously complete bullcrap.
I agree but disagree with your first statement, unless you're treating 3/5 stack notes as streams.darkmiz wrote:
Being good at streams will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous jumps.buny wrote:
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.
ok. Both streaming and jumps are hard, but streaming is harder to train.
There is a thing called physical limitation.
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
Jumps? Just buy a tablet and instant pro.
Mind telling us who the examples are?darkmiz wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
I used tablet once and I couldn't even pass osu!tutorial. Your argument is invalid.darkmiz wrote:
Jumps? Just buy a tablet and instant pro.
untill a couple of months ago i couldnt even pass 185 bpm for more than 9ish notesFrizz wrote:
Mind telling us who the examples are?darkmiz wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
Mind telling us who the examples are?Frizz wrote:
darkmiz wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
What. Yes it is.buny wrote:
Only if you can't stream 222bpm which isn't even what makes freedom dive hard in the first placeJappyBabes wrote:
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or what
If bpm was the bigger problem on freedom dive, there'd be a lot more no mod scores on it.Aqo wrote:
What. Yes it is.
I can stream 220bpm for 10 notes. 215bpm for 20 notes. 205bpm for 50 notes. 185bpm for 100 notes.
The above is more or less true for the large part of people who play this game actively and are keyboard-only streamers - i.e. 200bpm short term, 180bpm long term. Being able to stream 220bpm long-term is literally something most players are not physically capable of.
Are you a wizard. How the hell do you stream this fast this long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhvQ5qv_LYAqo wrote:
how do you wizards stream this fast and this long. can you upload videos of your fingers or something
give me the ability to stream 222~230bpm kb-only without getting tired and I'll pass freedom dive every day
how much does keigoclear-san's hand go for on e-bay?JappyBabes wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhvQ5qv_LY
Easy
you have 12k playcount, no wonder you cant streamZamura wrote:
personally god-awful at streams, so I truly envy people who are good at them (I'm one of the aforementioned people who after two years of playing still can't stream 170). However, I think that accurate cursor movement will get you further than stream speed given the new accuracy>difficulty way of ranking.
Thanks, I'll try that outMMzz wrote:
Playing with your fingers flat(?) and not curled helps me stream, less movement involved. I've pretty much adapted to always play like this. I picked it up while DTing maps in taiko, it boosted my speed and accuracy quite a bit.
Yes, I've seen on more than one occasion people mention the "magical" playcount number of 50-60k. I'm not really content to stay where I'm at skill-wise though, so I'm working towards it pretty actively these days, you'll notice my play history graph has increased significantly in the last two months (since we're checking profiles).silmarilen wrote:
you have 12k playcount, no wonder you cant streamZamura wrote:
personally god-awful at streams, so I truly envy people who are good at them (I'm one of the aforementioned people who after two years of playing still can't stream 170). However, I think that accurate cursor movement will get you further than stream speed given the new accuracy>difficulty way of ranking.
So Renard was not lying about the mindcontrol thing DDDDDDDDDDD:Frizz wrote:
Pretty sure everyone can. I'm actually not good at streams but I managed to be able to stream up to 220bpm (I was only able to stream around 180bpm-190bpm before). It depends on how one believes that they can actually push their own limit despite all the odds.