This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 15 September 2013 at 18:44:47

Artist: Renard
Title: Destination
Tags: Relapse Quick Brown Fox lapfox YGOkid8
BPM: 201.26
Filesize: 3729kb
Play Time: 02:22
Difficulties Available:

1. Hard (4.8 stars, 242 notes)
2. Insane (5 stars, 710 notes)
3. YGO's Normal (3.16 stars, 116 notes)

Download: Renard - Destination
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Much love to YGOkid8 for the normal diff.
If you played it, please leave a comment on ANYTHING which bothered you. I'll look at literally anything to make it better.
(unless of course you thought the entire map is shit...)
YGO's normal = Finished.
Hard = Finished. (Don't know if it ended up being too hard, and if it's good enough. Making hard diffs is hard. ;_; )
Insane = Finished.
-General stuff-
Still new to mapping, so any kind of general mapping advice is welcome. =P

good job

Let me help you a bit.

The maximum combo of a colour is (I don't know sure) 10. the combo of 00:16:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Is much longer than that , along as other streams. if your stream is around 11 or so, do not worry, because that is the maximum. Above that, you must add a new combo colour.

If you would like, I can make a easy level for you?!

MrAwesomenism wrote:

Let me help you a bit.

The maximum combo of a colour is (I don't know sure) 10. the combo of 00:16:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Is much longer than that , along as other streams. if your stream is around 11 or so, do not worry, because that is the maximum. Above that, you must add a new combo colour.

If you would like, I can make a easy level for you?!

And you must start of with easier songs to map. For example : http://osu.ppy.sh/s/69530

MrAwesomenism wrote:

Let me help you a bit.

The maximum combo of a colour is (I don't know sure) 10. the combo of 00:16:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Is much longer than that , along as other streams. if your stream is around 11 or so, do not worry, because that is the maximum. Above that, you must add a new combo colour.

If you would like, I can make a easy level for you?!

I asked around a bit, but there's nothing wrong with having combos between 10-15, as long as they make sense.
I was sticking to a new combo every 2 bars, which works out pretty well.
I do have, I think, 2 combos which end at 18, but that happens cause there's just a ton of triplets/streams going on.

Also, about the guest diff, I'm going to have to reject for now.

PS: is that some sneaky map advertising...?

Haikizoku wrote:

MrAwesomenism wrote:

Let me help you a bit.

The maximum combo of a colour is (I don't know sure) 10. the combo of 00:16:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Is much longer than that , along as other streams. if your stream is around 11 or so, do not worry, because that is the maximum. Above that, you must add a new combo colour.

If you would like, I can make a easy level for you?!

I asked around a bit, but there's nothing wrong with having combos between 10-15, as long as they make sense.
I was sticking to a new combo every 2 bars, which works out pretty well.
I do have, i think, 2 combos which end at 18, but that happens cause there's just a ton of triplets/streams going on.

Also, about the guest diff, i'm going to have to reject for now.

PS: is that some sneaky map advertising...?

nope, a example of a easy beatmap

Hi~!

00:13:906 (9,10,11) - Is too far away.

jomnhnk wrote:

Hi~!

00:13:906 (9,10,11) - Is too far away.

-Changed to a, hopefully, more reasonable spacing and distance. thanks. =)

Let's see
At first: Please don't follow exactly what's on screenshots - they're just supposed to give overall look on what do I mean at some points - it's up to you how you'll try to make it like that.
[Totally 4,5 stars]
First of all starting - I think it would be better to start the map 00:10:776 - here.
00:13:310 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Too much spaced - it's start of a map, don't make people loss acc just at start (without reason *). I think it would be better if streams would go from Up to down, and with less spacing between jump. Something like this Or even better would be stacking them.
00:15:993 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - The jump here - I personally think that kind of jump is pretty ugly, and for this part not being too fast, - it doesn't even fit. Making for example doublets (.. jump .. jump .. jump ..) (where .. double hit, and jump means space).
00:18:079 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - This kind of jump is bad - why? Because while streaming, you need to focus on: Triplet, jump, MOVING BACK, hitting next 4 circle-stream (which even curved), and sliding. Try to make it more flowing like triplet -> one circle -> next stream with slider like:
00:20:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Please make it more flowing, because it looks a little bit of random.
00:22:700 (7,8,9,10) - Moving down slider (8) will make player more flow - the slider is supposed to be like pitstop , a little bit of waiting to recover energy, and getting back to streaming - moving mouse unnecessary to hit it, is in my opinion bad.
00:23:147 (9,10,11,12,13) - ^ addition to this - moving it a little bit down, with suggestion above, will make it better
00:25:532 (14,15,16,17,18) - Bad flow - player needs to stream, make back-n-forth stream, and jump again with back-n-forth - it's bad IMO, If you want to keep it like that
This would be much better.
00:29:705 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - I know it's supposed to look cool - but for playing it's not - I'd recommend you rotating triplets to make ends look at start of stream, and moving stream a little bit further - coming back after triplets is bad.
It's still bad - but you get it right? (making triplets other shape would be better)
00:55:044 (2,3,4,5,6) - Please, avoid back-n-forth triplet here, there were too much jumps in this part, please, make player have rest with easier streams.

There is more to mod, but I think I found the most hurting problems in this map.

Marcin wrote:

Let's see
At first: Please don't follow exactly what's on screenshots - they're just supposed to give overall look on what do I mean at some points - it's up to you how you'll try to make it like that.
[Totally 4,5 stars]
First of all starting - I think it would be better to start the map 00:10:776 - here.Not fixed yet, But thinking of a way to make this work.
00:13:310 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Too much spaced - it's start of a map, don't make people loss acc just at start (without reason *). I think it would be better if streams would go from Up to down, and with less spacing between jump. Something like this Fixed this.

SPOILER

Or even better would be stacking them.
00:15:993 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - The jump here - I personally think that kind of jump is pretty ugly, and for this part not being too fast, - it doesn't even fit. Making for example doublets (.. jump .. jump .. jump ..) (where .. double hit, and jump means space). Fixed aswell.
00:18:079 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - This kind of jump is bad - why? Because while streaming, you need to focus on: Triplet, jump, MOVING BACK, hitting next 4 circle-stream (which even curved), and sliding. Try to make it more flowing like triplet -> one circle -> next stream with slider like:Didn't do it like you suggested, but this should work out aswell... I think.

SPOILER

00:20:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Please make it more flowing, because it looks a little bit of random.Changed the spacing a bit, i did keep the pattern the same. (I like streams like that.)

SPOILER

00:22:700 (7,8,9,10) - Moving down slider (8) will make player more flow - the slider is supposed to be like pitstop , a little bit of waiting to recover energy, and getting back to streaming - moving mouse unnecessary to hit it, is in my opinion bad. In all honesty, I don't see anything wrong with this. The slider is pretty close to the previous notes, if I'd move it any closer it would seem like it's a stream. o_O
00:23:147 (9,10,11,12,13) - ^ addition to this - moving it a little bit down, with suggestion above, will make it betterChanged this.
00:25:532 (14,15,16,17,18) - Bad flow - player needs to stream, make back-n-forth stream, and jump again with back-n-forth - it's bad IMO, If you want to keep it like that I kept it how it was. Again, I personally really like streams like that.

SPOILER

This would be much better.
00:29:705 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - I know it's supposed to look cool - but for playing it's not - I'd recommend you rotating triplets to make ends look at start of stream, and moving stream a little bit further - coming back after triplets is bad. Changed this also.

SPOILER

It's still bad - but you get it right? (making triplets other shape would be better)
00:55:044 (2,3,4,5,6) - Please, avoid back-n-forth triplet here, there were too much jumps in this part, please, make player have rest with easier streams.Trying to think of a way to change this. Though again, I personally don't really dislike these kind of streams. (Will change if I can come up with something.)

There is more to mod, but I think I found the most hurting problems in this map.

Thanks a lot for the mod. ^^
It was a nice christmas present. =P

I'm really happy that I made someone a gift (even without thinking about making it)

Okay, it's a little mod, because I can't pass it...

First, I feel like the hitsounds (when you don't use clap or whistle or finish) are too high, use inherited points to smoother them. Sound additions are good.
00:52:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Why does the stream hasn't the same spacing? On purpose?
00:56:832 (3) - Don't like its place, put it on the same line as 00:56:982 (4,5,6).
01:10:545 (2,4,6,8) - This is weird but cool at the same time
01:23:364 - Definitely a break

Nice song, nice mapping, take my star!
That's all

Nanika133 wrote:

Okay, it's a little mod, because I can't pass it...

First, I feel like the hitsounds (when you don't use clap or whistle or finish) are too high, use inherited points to smoother them. Sound additions are good.I'll turn them down a bit.

00:52:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Why does the stream hasn't the same spacing? On purpose?Yeah, this is on purpose. If it plays bad I'll change it to have the same spacing. (It's always hard to say "I don't have much trouble with it", cause I've seen it a thousand times now. =P)

00:56:832 (3) - Don't like its place, put it on the same line as 00:56:982 (4,5,6).
I'm surprised you did name this one but not 00:47:293 (3) - Since it's basically the exact same pattern, but upside down.

01:10:545 (2,4,6,8) - This is weird but cool at the same time. Is that a "Keep it like this"? =P

01:23:364 - Definitely a break I honestly don't know. I thought the break was too short to actually add in a break.
So i added 3 combos in the 4 notes right after it to basically negate all the draining. If you hit those 4 notes right before the actual break, you end up with like 80-90% "health". I'll ask around a bit, if some other people agree with you, I'll change it. =)

Nice song, nice mapping, take my star!
That's all

Thanks for the (small)mod. =P
And even more thanks for the star. ^^

Haikizoku wrote:

00:56:832 (3) - Don't like its place, put it on the same line as 00:56:982 (4,5,6).
I'm surprised you did name this one but not 00:47:293 (3) - Since it's basically the exact same pattern, but upside down.

Oh, I didn't saw the 00:56:236 (1) ... It's cool like that

Haikizoku wrote:

10:545 (2,4,6,8) - This is weird but cool at the same time. Is that a "Keep it like this"? =P

Yup

Haikizoku wrote:

01:23:364 - Definitely a break I honestly don't know. I thought the break was too short to actually add in a break.
So i added 3 combos in the 4 notes right after it to basically negate all the draining. If you hit those 4 notes right before the actual break, you end up with like 80-90% "health". I'll ask around a bit, if some other people agree with you, I'll change it. =)

Yeah, but if someone has made a mistake just before, he will lose without doubt...

Nanika133 wrote:

Haikizoku wrote:

01:23:364 - Definitely a break I honestly don't know. I thought the break was too short to actually add in a break.
So i added 3 combos in the 4 notes right after it to basically negate all the draining. If you hit those 4 notes right before the actual break, you end up with like 80-90% "health". I'll ask around a bit, if some other people agree with you, I'll change it. =)

Yeah, but if someone has made a mistake just before, he will lose without doubt...

Yeah, true.
Alrighty, added a break and changed the combo after it a bit. ^^
Since now the 4 combos aren't needed anymore.

OD - 1 = 5 Stars~

DaxMasterix wrote:

OD - 1 = 5 Stars~

Will do.
You think it's fine with just OD down a bit? Or did you think drainrate was too high aswell?

For some reason this also suddenly made the map go from 4.5 stars to 5 stars.
Now I have to change the difficulty name. ;_;

Haikizoku wrote:

DaxMasterix wrote:

OD - 1 = 5 Stars~

Will do.
You think it's fine with just OD down a bit? Or did you think drainrate was too high aswell?

For some reason this also suddenly made the map go from 4.5 stars to 5 stars.
Now I have to change the difficulty name. ;_;

You shouldn't give a _ about the difficulty rating system. Choose the settings you like the most a just don't care about this dubious number of stars which doesn't tell anything anyway.

Tshemmp wrote:

You shouldn't give a _ about the difficulty rating system. Choose the settings you like the most a just don't care about this dubious number of stars which doesn't tell anything anyway.

I know I know.
And I wasn't sure about the difficulty settings, which is why I was asking for opinions. ^^
Also, I thought it was just funny that the map had a rating of 4.5 for some reason, while it obviously isn't. =P
But nevermind, lol.

my diff., extract .rar to your map folder.

also add "YGOkid8" to tags for all diffs. (already done for my diff.)

http://puu.sh/1Phja

Here's my mod.




That's all,good luck for rank!

Chyo-Kun wrote:

Here's my mod.

[YGO's Normal]

1. 00:37:605 - Instead of a beat,add a slider:
   
   
   
   It fits better the song in my opinion
   

   344,240,37605,2,0,P|344:192|344:192|368:144,2,99.9999999999999

   01:23:438 - Add a silenced spinner
   

   256,192,83513,12,0,85078,0:0:0

2. 01:43:784 (5) - Place this x:144 Y:104
   
3. 01:44:380 (6) - If you fixed the slider before,place this one x:320 y:56
4. 02:20:749 (1) - Make this spinner end on 02:20:749 (1)

YGO's diff, I'll wait for him before doing anything here. =P

[Hard]

1. 00:14:055 (4) - This beat overlaps with 00:14:353 (1,2) those two sliders. Move it to a better position or move the slidersChanged this pattern a bit.
2. 01:02:049 (1) - Move this to x:288 y:208 for stack with 01:00:857 (4) this Changed.
   
3. 01:02:944 (3) - If you fixed before,move this beat to x:184 y:288 Not the way you said, but changed aswell.
4. 01:15:166 (8) - Add NC Done.
5. 01:23:513 - Add a silenced spinner like in the normal Nah, sorry. There's absolutely nothing going on there, it's complete silence. I personally think that adding a spinner here is sort of weird.
   

   256,192,83587,12,0,85078,0:0:0

6. 01:47:659 (1) - Move this to x:224 y:240 for remove the ovelap and make it look better Not sure on what you meant with the overlapping, since it with your coords it was still overlapping the only note it was overlapping. =P I did change the pattern a bit to make it look like what you suggested. Which indeed does look better.
7. 02:17:469 (6) - Add NC Changed combos around a bit in that entire section after the break.

[Insane]

Maybe you should rename this diff,"Insane" is a bit too banal for this difficulty.I'll see if I can come up with something, apart from the usual "another/extra" =P

1. 00:52:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I don't think that this stream is rankable,because of the spacing. I'll get this doublechecked. If it's unrankable I'll change it.
   -Edit-
   And I checked.
   So it should be okay. (Hopefully =P)
2. 00:56:832 (3) - Move this beat to the centre (x:256 y:148),it looks ugly. Not changed. That note is exactly mirrored to 00:56:236 (1) - Which is part of that pattern.
   Also, somebody else also said something about this combo, and not about the one at 00:46:697 (1) -, Which is EXACTLY the same, but just upside down.
   I don't get it. =P
3. 01:23:513 - Like in the other diffs,add a spin in this dead point Same as what I said on "Hard"
   

   83513,-100,4,1,0,5,0,0

That's all,good luck for rank!

Thanks a lot for the mod. ^^

no changes

also Haikizoku since you start your diffs. before I do, make your red timing section 40% volume, then change to 60% at 00:19:123 -
also red timing section offset 44

[General]
the BPM of this song is 134.17*1.5=201.255

[YGO's Normal]
Set timing point at 44ms
00:57:280 - better not use 0.8x. it is only normal
01:07:719 (3,4) - change to
01:13:980 (5,6) -
01:18:750 (5,6) -
pretty good

[Hard]
i really don't like many slider of this diff, like those have red point and 00:42:971 (1,2) and so on...
00:47:744 (6) - add a note
this diff have much room to improve