Hey Louis, Krisom is currently sick so I'll be replacing him today.

[General]

1. Add a pause-overlay to avoid skin mixing, please.
2. Those black bars in the BG look a bit odd, are those intentional?. I edited the BG a bit to remove them, here it is if you want to use it.
   
   SPOILER

   

[Beginner]

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  About the spinner-spam:

1. 00:30:444 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Spinners tend to be the most difficult object for rookies so for these ones I suggest to join 2 of them into a single one so it's a bit easier.
2. 01:16:666 (1,1,1,1) - For these ones the rhythm is way more easy to follow, plus there aren't any other objects after them, I guess there's no problem here.
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4. 01:11:111 (4) - A NC might be needed here, consider adding it.
5. 01:15:999 (1) - The current time of this slider seems a bit iffy, rookies will have to wait some seconds before hitting it so it will be really hard to hit it accurately due to the low AR. You should start this slider here: 01:15:555 - This will it will suit this diff better.

[Middling]

1. The current AR seems a bit too high sometimes. I think that due to the high BPM, AR:4 can work perfectly fine for this diff, consider using it.
2. 01:08:666 (2) - This circle was hard to see while playing, I strongly suggest to re-arrange the pattern to make the circle more visible. (All you need to do is select the patterns from here: 01:08:666 (2) - to here: 01:16:444 - and them move them some grid down)

[Advanced]

1. 00:04:444 (3) - I didn't have problems with this while playing but you might want to fix this spacing. (Tweaking (2) a bit should be enough)
2. Quite nice, no major problems here.

[Experienced]

1. I suggest to save AR:9 for [Champion] and use 8 for this one.
2. Woah, those sliders... nothing else worth pointing out~

[Champion]

1. Due to some hidden reverse arrows some repeating sliders might turn out unrankable, mainly these ones: 00:44:444 (1) & 01:15:999 (3,1,2,1). I'm not 100% sure if this diff will get affected even if it's going for approval, you better check those sliders with some BATs.

Overall the diffs are really nice and fun, the song makes me dizzy tho

Okk

I suggest to save AR:9 for [Champion] and use 8 for this one.

Plays too slow, i'll keep AR9 in both sorry ><

Add a pause-overlay to avoid skin mixing, please.

iF you can make for me that will be great. I'm not able to make it now. I'm not at home

Due to some hidden reverse arrows some repeating sliders might turn out unrankable, mainly these ones: 00:44:444 (1) & 01:15:999 (3,1,2,1). I'm not 100% sure if this diff will get affected even if it's going for approval, you better check those sliders with some BATs.

The only way to fix them is just increase a bit spacing between them, that is the onliest way.
So increase distance between 1/8 streams by 4 grids. Now they are clearly visible.

Thanks a lot Gonzo! :3

Star :3

stars~

Awesome *o*

star bro

Amazing~☆

блять КАК ОН МЕНЯ БЕСИТ!
Edit: интересно,кто умудрился стереть наши посты вместе с кудосу,при этом чтобы оно исчезло из Recent kudosu history

lol

It's great!
Star

anyway star'

Download: _LRJ_ - Syrsa - Mad Machine [Champion] (2011-07-31) Osu.osr

Artist: Syrsa
Title: Mad Machine
Tags: Speedcore
BPM: 270
Filesize: 3224kb
Play Time: 01:21
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (4,5 stars, 102 notes)
Beginner (0,99 stars, 48 notes)
Champion (5 stars, 362 notes)
Experienced (5 stars, 195 notes)
Middling (3,45 stars, 84 notes)

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IMO the difficulty jump from [Advanced] to [Experienced] is too big.
And I mean playing it, not by star rating.
Aside that it's a pretty good mapset.
Star~

IMO the difficulty jump from [Advanced] to [Experienced] is too big.
And I mean playing it, not by star rating.
Aside that it's a pretty good mapset.
Star~

just AR is greater.

Sorry that it is somewhat "noisy" and I paused for a while.
I am not so agree with using taiko hitsound here, original is still fine.
and why not replace the slidertick as well if you almost use the whole taiko hitsound set?

I am not so agree with using taiko hitsound here, original is still fine.

Sorry, but it seems for me good D:
thanks for paying attention <3

ok Bubble #1.
Highest diff is for Approval

To BATs mm I don't much on these days so if you guys find main issues that's really sorry.....

[Beginner]

Slider Tick Rate is Unrankable. Please make sure to change it to 1 at least.

00:07:111 (4) - New combo.

Popped for now, fix that and I'll give you the 2nd bubble.

Also, thanks for destroying my ears.

Kudosu for help. Fixed Andrea~

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OH GOD WHAT THE HELL IS THIS.

Here we go.

Bubble #2~

onice

i'm forced to star it.

and my message

is too short.

EDIT: DONT play the Champion diff with Halftime
it crash my comp :-(

starrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfffffffffffffff

Cool musi.... sound effects you have there!

Anyone has some painkillers?

Hi. no kd.

You are using a custom hitcircleoverlay. Could you please force an appropriate slider border? Read why here.

It is also in the New Ranking Guidelines (not in effect yet, so it's not absolutely necessary)

New Ranking Guidelines wrote:

When skinning gameplay elements, complete sets of elements must be skinned. For instance, if you skin hitcircles, you must include a hitcircle.png, hitcircleoverlay.png, approachcircle.png, and a slider border color (this can be done by adding the line "SliderBorder: 255,255,255" (using RGB values) under the [Colours] section of each .osu file). The same logic applies to hitbursts, cursors, numbers, and anything else of this nature. If you didn't intend to skin an element in the set, then using the templateskin's version is okay. Setting a SkinPreference is also acceptable (e.g. forcing the default skin).

[advanced] and [middling] have duplicated red timing sections.

New Ranking Guidelines wrote:

This is a working document. The rules are not going to be strictly enforced yet

Hum?

Might as well fix now (The timing sections are an absolute must-fix) since it's not that much effort and, since it's relatively minor, will not affect the ranking/approval process.

kay bubble is now fixed after minor fix is made.....
Why we didn't notice this lol

Fixed~

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<3

la hard la jugue i la pase con SS, Pero la insane ya era una dificultad mas elebada, asi que fallé un poco ams alla de la mitas, podrias poner intermedio apra entretenernos : ) bueno espero te sirva mi aporte.
lo sienrto por no escribirlo en inglés..

Translation please.

Your message is too short.

ok.
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases; it will never
Pass into nothingness; but still will keep
A bower quiet for us, and a sleep
Full of sweet dreams, and health, and quiet breathing.

© John Keats

From first sentence I am assuming that he said that he can get SS in hard diff.

good.

he said he can SS Hard and not even get close to pass Insane so he wants a difficulty in-between.

Nah i tried to make it really easy. No streams, few jumps.

Your message is too short.

Seriously someone disable this shit.

EDIT:
And also BD, not "he", but "she"

Hello everyone, time for a tl;dr post!

tl;dr champion should be ranked and this entire mapset should be ranked since it has 2 bubbles already.

This thread will be referenced.

Lybydose wrote:

Why is "too hard" a reason to approve a map? The difference between approval and ranked is that it doesn't count for score. You're saying we shouldn't count scores of people who are able to pass really difficult maps? That doesn't make any sense.

The rest of the thread completely derails and doesn't talk about what is required here, but the final point they came to is this : As long as the map is not functionally impossible to pass (which can also be argued), then it can be ranked rather than approved as long as the ranking rules are followed. (Which makes sense - the only reason you would go for approval is if you broke any ranking rules - this does not)

In fact, there are precedents to "extremely hard" maps being ranked (I understand that these do not necessarily matter according to this map, but they do offer evidence):
Swan Lake Orchestra - Hakuchou no Mizuumi - Extra has exactly six full combos. Heck, the Another doesn't even have 40. Extra has 300bpm streams, typical retarded aho spacing, and in general just isn't fun to play if you don't like frustration. Mad Machine at least makes sense and is very straightforward.
t+pazolite - Kanon-Kanon has under 20 full combos to this day. It's also very high bpm (230) but the breaking points were in a pair of jump patterns, not the streams. Mad Machine does not have this problem.
Savage Garden - I Want You - very old so does not mean as much
Susumu Hirasawa - Aurora 2 - to this day has THREE full combos. hell, most kirby mixes.
Shounen Radio - neu also has under 20 FCs, and is in general extremely hard to read and play
Tachibana Miya - Miya to Tengoku to Jigoku ^
Hatsune Miku - Homework Crisis and quite a few val0108 maps are outright silly (but manage to be extremely fun)
Inspector K - Disconnected Hardkore (CanBlaster Remix) by 7odoa.

While other maps with full combos in the top 40 are approved.

I remember #modhelp and several mats and bats querying me about Inspector K - Disconnected Hardkore (CanBlaster Remix) because it was well under the maximum score and they were all pressing me to make some other difficulties and get it ranked rather than approved - arguing the exact opposite of what i've heard has been argued for Louis. This is bullshit. My Hardkore has exactly four full combos - this is because of the extreme difficulty ramp of the jumps and slider velocity. I ask you, is there any real difference between huge jumps and fast streams as far as difficulty goes? I'm sure there would be a very heated discussion as to whether jumps or streams are harder, but neither should be a reason to make it approved rather than ranked.

(You should understand that i pushed very hard for hardkore to be approved rather than ranked so that i did not steal attention from 7odoa's hard-worked version, since mine was rather casually done)


I don't see why someone would need to actively search for a MAT or BAT that is willing to stand up for their opinions and be willing to defend it from other MATs or BATs that disagree.

will write more later and might include an actual mod

Shiirn wrote:

Swan Lake Orchestra - Hakuchou no Mizuumi - Extra has exactly six full combos. Heck, the Another doesn't even have 40. Extra has 300bpm streams, typical retarded aho spacing, and in general just isn't fun to play if you don't like frustration. Mad Machine at least makes sense and is very straightforward.

Just posting that streams are 220 in that silly map.

EDIT: And noone mentioned rainbow tylenol, that map is outrageous even with the relatively low bpm.

Oh my if this doesn't approve then the world will explode for surely sureness.