Also end of support by software providers means new software/versions will not support the OS but the older versions will still work.xch00F wrote:
do not use an iot version of windows for general use, it's the successor to windows embedded and is designed for devices like point of sale terminals or industrial tech. iot eol is still 2025. ltsc eol is 2032 but ltsc is used for devices like medical equipment where "upgrading" means building/buying a new device entirely, you don't want to use this version either.Winnyace wrote:
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is supported until 2032 and can be downloaded to Massgrave.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Windows 10 will be no longer supported in 15 months only, I don't think it's worth installing Windows 10 now.xch00F wrote:
if/when you decide the hassle of learning a new os is too much, install windows 10 instead of 11, boot into audit mode to uninstall bloatware, then use massgrave to activate
good luck tho I salute u.... (￣^￣ )ゞ
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I wish you luck OP on your journey. Take your time.
windows 10 eol doesn't mean it stops working entirely and everyone immediately has to switch to a different os, it just means there will be no more security updates or technical support, the latter of which probably doesn't apply to anyone here unless they're a sysadmin (or something similar) who has to actually talk to microsoft for support. harden your system, don't be a moron and don't download stupid shit. if you're worried about programs not working properly (like video games), remember that win7 eol was 2020 but steam didn't drop support for it until 4 years later. you'll have a decent chunk of time after official support drops before third parties start pulling the plug. could you imagine how much of a shit show it would be if something like steam killed support on the same day as microsoft does lol.
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LETS FUCKING GOOOOMistressRemilia wrote:
Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies.
In all seriousness, quote me or DM me or something if you've got questions. Can't guarantee an answer, but I've been using this crazy penguin OS since 2002...cr0w wrote:
LETS FUCKING GOOOOMistressRemilia wrote:
Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies.
Yes, but not getting security updates can be a huge problem and put your computer at risk indefinitely if a flaw is discovered (which I think will be). I strongly recommend to NOT use an OS without security updates, especially if it has internet connectionKarmine wrote:
Also end of support by software providers means new software/versions will not support the OS but the older versions will still work.xch00F wrote:
do not use an iot version of windows for general use, it's the successor to windows embedded and is designed for devices like point of sale terminals or industrial tech. iot eol is still 2025. ltsc eol is 2032 but ltsc is used for devices like medical equipment where "upgrading" means building/buying a new device entirely, you don't want to use this version either.Winnyace wrote:
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is supported until 2032 and can be downloaded to Massgrave.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Windows 10 will be no longer supported in 15 months only, I don't think it's worth installing Windows 10 now.xch00F wrote:
if/when you decide the hassle of learning a new os is too much, install windows 10 instead of 11, boot into audit mode to uninstall bloatware, then use massgrave to activate
good luck tho I salute u.... (￣^￣ )ゞ
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Also based decision of switching to Linux
I wish you luck OP on your journey. Take your time.
windows 10 eol doesn't mean it stops working entirely and everyone immediately has to switch to a different os, it just means there will be no more security updates or technical support, the latter of which probably doesn't apply to anyone here unless they're a sysadmin (or something similar) who has to actually talk to microsoft for support. harden your system, don't be a moron and don't download stupid shit. if you're worried about programs not working properly (like video games), remember that win7 eol was 2020 but steam didn't drop support for it until 4 years later. you'll have a decent chunk of time after official support drops before third parties start pulling the plug. could you imagine how much of a shit show it would be if something like steam killed support on the same day as microsoft does lol.
personal use pcs are generally not targeted in the same way companies/corporate environments are, obv there's a risk inherent in using an os past eol but you have to weigh your own ability to assess threats/harden your system. again, there's not going to be a massive downgrade in operability/massive increase in vulnerability next october, it'll be a a slow shift. I can't really recommend using win10 past eol but that's mostly on principle from the sysadmin part of my brain. if you want to continue using it (like I'm going to), run a third party antivirus on top of windows defender, lock down your browser(s), heighten uac. if you can make windows bitch at you for any change made to your pc, do it.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Yes, but not getting security updates can be a huge problem and put your computer at risk indefinitely if a flaw is discovered (which I think will be). I strongly recommend to NOT use an OS without security updates, especially if it has internet connection
the only caveat I guess I'll make is that if windows defender is slated to also stop working next october, you probably prioritize switching. this won't happen tho, defender for 7 and 8/8.1 still work and defender for those ones is basically a second program. win10 defender is part of the os
I wanna be able to dualboot on my laptop (windows + mint) but im scared of fucking up horribly
love it when windows pulls updates and blows my bootloader away, very cool
Windows Embedded was a special installer of Windows that allowed you to enable or disable components at install. You could enable everything a normal version of Windows had and it will just work without any issue. Here's a video about a computer with this OS in mind, where the host explains a bit about Windows Embedded and we see the install process (you can skip to the chapter where he installs Windows 7 Embedded, since he mostly talks about the hardware first and then the software):xch00F wrote:
do not use an iot version of windows for general use, it's the successor to windows embedded and is designed for devices like point of sale terminals or industrial tech. iot eol is still 2025. ltsc eol is 2032 but ltsc is used for devices like medical equipment where "upgrading" means building/buying a new device entirely, you don't want to use this version either.
windows 10 eol doesn't mean it stops working entirely and everyone immediately has to switch to a different os, it just means there will be no more security updates or technical support, the latter of which probably doesn't apply to anyone here unless they're a sysadmin (or something similar) who has to actually talk to microsoft for support. harden your system, don't be a moron and don't download stupid shit. if you're worried about programs not working properly (like video games), remember that win7 eol was 2020 but steam didn't drop support for it until 4 years later. you'll have a decent chunk of time after official support drops before third parties start pulling the plug. could you imagine how much of a shit show it would be if something like steam killed support on the same day as microsoft does lol.
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise provides the same functionality as Windows 10 Enterprise, which provides the same functionality as Windows 10 Pro but with extra features for businesses. Thus, you can use this version of Windows as if it was Pro or Home. Here's a snippet from a Microsoft Learn page talking about Windows IoT Enterprise:
Windows IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows Enterprise that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. Windows IoT Enterprise shares all the benefits of the worldwide Windows ecosystem. It is a binary equivalent to Windows Enterprise, so you can use the same familiar development and management tools as client PCs and laptops.
There is a version of IoT named IoT Core, which is much smaller and isn't just Windows 10.[source]
From my own experience, Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is literally just Windows 10 Pro, but it has some features removed and some features added from Pro, alongside being on the LTSC. For instance, I immediately noticed that IoT has Cortana removed and Microsoft Store also removed, and the only inconvenient thing I had to deal with was the fact Filelight is only officially available on the Microsoft Store from what it seems.
You're right that normal Enterprise dies in 2025, however, on massgrave, you can't download the normal Enterprise ISOs, only the LTSC versions.
You're right that EOL doesn't mean Windows 10 just dies immediately, however, it will slowly become more and more exploited and unsupported. If you're worried about that, but you don't want to use Windows 11 and you can't use Linux, feel free to use Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC. It is the best solution IMO.
I never had that happen and fixing the bootloader for Linux is trivial.xch00F wrote:
love it when windows pulls updates and blows my bootloader away, very cool
You will fuck up horribly because you're a beginner when it comes to Linux. Of course you will mess up. Backup your stuff somewhere securely and just try your heart out. It is okay to fuck up horribly because that's how you learn.B0ii wrote:
I wanna be able to dualboot on my laptop (windows + mint) but im scared of fucking up horribly
"goodbye win11 hellow ubuntu" bro is moving from america to california
Nah, this is trauma.
But I'm a masoc-
But I'm a masoc-
I worked with windows embedded/iot at my previous job for roughly 6 years but admittedly I never configured the installs per device, every device I worked with had a pre-built factory image. also never grabbed isos off massgrave, every place I've worked with ltsc in their environment already had isos locally or we could pull directly from microsoft. if massgrave has ltsc isos then yeah honestly use that rofl.Winnyace wrote:
Windows Embedded was a special installer of Windows that allowed you to enable or disable components at install. You could enable everything a normal version of Windows had and it will just work without any issue. Here's a video about a computer with this OS in mind, where the host explains a bit about Windows Embedded and we see the install process (you can skip to the chapter where he installs Windows 7 Embedded, since he mostly talks about the hardware first and then the software):xch00F wrote:
do not use an iot version of windows for general use, it's the successor to windows embedded and is designed for devices like point of sale terminals or industrial tech. iot eol is still 2025. ltsc eol is 2032 but ltsc is used for devices like medical equipment where "upgrading" means building/buying a new device entirely, you don't want to use this version either.
windows 10 eol doesn't mean it stops working entirely and everyone immediately has to switch to a different os, it just means there will be no more security updates or technical support, the latter of which probably doesn't apply to anyone here unless they're a sysadmin (or something similar) who has to actually talk to microsoft for support. harden your system, don't be a moron and don't download stupid shit. if you're worried about programs not working properly (like video games), remember that win7 eol was 2020 but steam didn't drop support for it until 4 years later. you'll have a decent chunk of time after official support drops before third parties start pulling the plug. could you imagine how much of a shit show it would be if something like steam killed support on the same day as microsoft does lol.
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise provides the same functionality as Windows 10 Enterprise, which provides the same functionality as Windows 10 Pro but with extra features for businesses. Thus, you can use this version of Windows as if it was Pro or Home. Here's a snippet from a Microsoft Learn page talking about Windows IoT Enterprise:
Windows IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows Enterprise that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. Windows IoT Enterprise shares all the benefits of the worldwide Windows ecosystem. It is a binary equivalent to Windows Enterprise, so you can use the same familiar development and management tools as client PCs and laptops.
There is a version of IoT named IoT Core, which is much smaller and isn't just Windows 10.[source]
From my own experience, Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is literally just Windows 10 Pro, but it has some features removed and some features added from Pro, alongside being on the LTSC. For instance, I immediately noticed that IoT has Cortana removed and Microsoft Store also removed, and the only inconvenient thing I had to deal with was the fact Filelight is only officially available on the Microsoft Store from what it seems.
You're right that normal Enterprise dies in 2025, however, on massgrave, you can't download the normal Enterprise ISOs, only the LTSC versions.
You're right that EOL doesn't mean Windows 10 just dies immediately, however, it will slowly become more and more exploited and unsupported. If you're worried about that, but you don't want to use Windows 11 and you can't use Linux, feel free to use Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC. It is the best solution IMO.
That's fair.xch00F wrote:
I worked with windows embedded/iot at my previous job for roughly 6 years but admittedly I never configured the installs per device, every device I worked with had a pre-built factory image.
Yep. They offer LTSC ISOs. They say on their downloads page that the links go to genuine files and they also provide things required for verification, so yeah.xch00F wrote:
also never grabbed isos off massgrave, every place I've worked with ltsc in their environment already had isos locally or we could pull directly from microsoft. if massgrave has ltsc isos then yeah honestly use that rofl.
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im kinda happy doing this impulse decision made a bunch of people talk about this/give encouraging words
+abraker commented and that made my day ngl
+abraker commented and that made my day ngl
you're cutecr0w wrote:
im kinda happy doing this impulse decision made a bunch of people talk about this/give encouraging words
+abraker commented and that made my day ngl
I haven't had it happen to me when using linux either but I'm not a daily user, I have friends who have had grub nuked by a windows update tho. it does it to itself too, sometimes I'll pull an update and after reboot I'm greeted by uefi and windows isn't in my boot devices. I have a win10 boot disk laying around and it's fixed p easily with bootrec. no clue why it happens and I've been seeing it for like a decade about as frequently as the win7 log bloat glitchWinnyace wrote:
I never had that happen and fixing the bootloader for Linux is trivial.xch00F wrote:
love it when windows pulls updates and blows my bootloader away, very cool
Welcome to the Linux community
Welcome to linux hope you like it!
if you want to get osu! stable use the osu-winello script
https://github.com/NelloKudo/osu-winello
(if you have any issues the poon discord is a great place to ask for help. They also have a Linux channel where you can ask for help as well.)
if you want to get osu! lazer then you can download the flatpak from your appstore or download the appimage from the osu! github.
https://github.com/ppy/osu
if you are playing any steam games make sure to check out ProtonDB and review games that work/don't work
https://www.protondb.com/
Proton (For Steam games) and Wine are going to be your friends for any apps that don't have any native Linux version.
(I have heard of Lutris and Bottles but I have never messed around with those much)
It looks like you are using regular Ubuntu and I have heard people recommend to delete snaps (like flatpaks but worse appearently) but idk much about that.
if you want to get osu! stable use the osu-winello script
https://github.com/NelloKudo/osu-winello
(if you have any issues the poon discord is a great place to ask for help. They also have a Linux channel where you can ask for help as well.)
if you want to get osu! lazer then you can download the flatpak from your appstore or download the appimage from the osu! github.
https://github.com/ppy/osu
if you are playing any steam games make sure to check out ProtonDB and review games that work/don't work
https://www.protondb.com/
Proton (For Steam games) and Wine are going to be your friends for any apps that don't have any native Linux version.
(I have heard of Lutris and Bottles but I have never messed around with those much)
It looks like you are using regular Ubuntu and I have heard people recommend to delete snaps (like flatpaks but worse appearently) but idk much about that.
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w-what does this meanPolyspora wrote:
you're cutecr0w wrote:
im kinda happy doing this impulse decision made a bunch of people talk about this/give encouraging words
+abraker commented and that made my day ngl
you're cutecr0w wrote:
w-what does this meanPolyspora wrote:
you're cutecr0w wrote:
im kinda happy doing this impulse decision made a bunch of people talk about this/give encouraging words
+abraker commented and that made my day ngl
me when abwakew posts on my thread (⁄⁄>⁄ω⁄<⁄⁄) we luv uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuª!!!!!!11111!!11111cr0w wrote:
im kinda happy doing this impulse decision made a bunch of people talk about this/give encouraging words
+abraker commented and that made my day ngl
I'm glad I got rid of Windows 11 on my current laptop as it really bogged down my old cpu.
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Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, I will primarily use it for dual booting.
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Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, I will primarily use it for dual booting.
the difference is that the anime girl has bigger boobsgreat_elmo wrote:
This was my before and after
Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, keeping it for dual booting.
get well soon
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user
can't seem to recall asking but thank you for the responsePolyspora wrote:
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user
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hello i am no longer on Ubuntu i am on Linux Mint (yay, thank you Winnyace) and I got a couple Steam games installed (Ultrakill, Celeste, TF2, Stardew, Half Life 1+2 and Kovaaks) and also osu!stable (thank you BlueChinchompa)
:3 everything is so fast now
also if any of you have any cool suggestions or anything feel free to leave them here or add me on discord: @duskicide
:3 everything is so fast now
also if any of you have any cool suggestions or anything feel free to leave them here or add me on discord: @duskicide
Glad you're enjoying mint!
I've heard about Windows Update just nuking grub or grub itself nuking grub (that's why we stan systemd-boot), but I didn't hear Windows Update nuking the bootloader on Windows.xch00F wrote:
I haven't had it happen to me when using linux either but I'm not a daily user, I have friends who have had grub nuked by a windows update tho. it does it to itself too, sometimes I'll pull an update and after reboot I'm greeted by uefi and windows isn't in my boot devices. I have a win10 boot disk laying around and it's fixed p easily with bootrec. no clue why it happens and I've been seeing it for like a decade about as frequently as the win7 log bloat glitchWinnyace wrote:
I never had that happen and fixing the bootloader for Linux is trivial.xch00F wrote:
love it when windows pulls updates and blows my bootloader away, very cool
you can find loads of threads on answers.microsoft and it's frequent enough that when you look it up on a search engine, third party backup solutions like easeus have blog posts that double as instructions and adverts for their software. happens to server versions as well, incredibly annoying
are you 12xch00F wrote:
can't seem to recall asking but thank you for the responsePolyspora wrote:
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user
ultrakill and stardew are pretty coolcr0w wrote:
hello i am no longer on Ubuntu i am on Linux Mint (yay, thank you Winnyace) and I got a couple Steam games installed (Ultrakill, Celeste, TF2, Stardew, Half Life 1+2 and Kovaaks) and also osu!stable (thank you BlueChinchompa)
:3 everything is so fast now
also if any of you have any cool suggestions or anything feel free to leave them here or add me on discord: @duskicide
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
are you 12xch00F wrote:
can't seem to recall asking but thank you for the responsePolyspora wrote:
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user
what did Patatitta meant by that 😭Patatitta wrote:
the difference is that the anime girl has bigger boobsgreat_elmo wrote:
This was my before and after
Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, keeping it for dual booting.
you see the first wallpaper is miku who has regular boobs which is nice and good, and the second one is a character from a harem anime so they have some serious honkers. a real set of badonkers. packin some dobonhonkeros. massive doboonkabhankoloos. big ol' tonhongerekoogers, because how can I watch an anime if it doesn't make my dick hard- Marco - wrote:
what did Patatitta meant by that 😭Patatitta wrote:
the difference is that the anime girl has bigger boobsgreat_elmo wrote:
This was my before and after
Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, keeping it for dual booting.
yeah, real. thanks for explaning mr presidentPatatitta wrote:
you see the first wallpaper is miku who has regular boobs which is nice and good, and the second one is a character from a harem anime so they have some serious honkers. a real set of badonkers. packin some dobonhonkeros. massive doboonkabhankoloos. big ol' tonhongerekoogers, because how can I watch an anime if it doesn't make my dick hard- Marco - wrote:
what did Patatitta meant by that 😭Patatitta wrote:
the difference is that the anime girl has bigger boobsgreat_elmo wrote:
This was my before and after
Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, keeping it for dual booting.
wait actually? or are you trolling?xch00F wrote:
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
are you 12xch00F wrote:
can't seem to recall asking but thank you for the responsePolyspora wrote:
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user
not far from the truthcr0w wrote:
guys guys guys we’re all 12
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not far from the truthcr0w wrote:
guys guys guys we’re all 12
This man is insane.Patatitta wrote:
you see the first wallpaper is miku who has regular boobs which is nice and good, and the second one is a character from a harem anime so they have some serious honkers. a real set of badonkers. packin some dobonhonkeros. massive doboonkabhankoloos. big ol' tonhongerekoogers, because how can I watch an anime if it doesn't make my dick hard- Marco - wrote:
what did Patatitta meant by that 😭Patatitta wrote:
the difference is that the anime girl has bigger boobsgreat_elmo wrote:
This was my before and after
Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, keeping it for dual booting.
Patatitta wrote:
you see the first wallpaper is miku who has regular boobs which is nice and good, and the second one is a character from a harem anime so they have some serious honkers. a real set of badonkers. packin some dobonhonkeros. massive doboonkabhankoloos. big ol' tonhongerekoogers, because how can I watch an anime if it doesn't make my dick hard- Marco - wrote:
what did Patatitta meant by that 😭Patatitta wrote:
the difference is that the anime girl has bigger boobsgreat_elmo wrote:
This was my before and after
Yes, I have tried Linux (mint xfce to be exact) and while I do like it I don't think I'll switch to it permanently, keeping it for dual booting.
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
wait actually? or are you trolling?xch00F wrote:
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
are you 12xch00F wrote:
can't seem to recall asking but thank you for the responsePolyspora wrote:
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user
On a good day.cr0w wrote:
guys guys guys we’re all 12
no! I'm actually 15.xch00F wrote:
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
wait actually? or are you trolling?xch00F wrote:
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
are you 12xch00F wrote:
can't seem to recall asking but thank you for the responsePolyspora wrote:
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
no! I'm actually 15.xch00F wrote:
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
wait actually? or are you trolling?xch00F wrote:
yes and so are youPolyspora wrote:
are you 12xch00F wrote:
can't seem to recall asking but thank you for the responsePolyspora wrote:
no supportxch00F wrote:
we stan a windows 7 widget user