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Shiro
As per your request.

Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why. Remember these are all suggestions.
Also, if you have any question, feel free to ask me in-game :)

General

Easy
  1. Most of the timing sections are doubled.
  2. Some of the speed changes are too drastic and rather surprising... Try to even out the slider speeds, or at least make the speed changes less harsh.
  3. I find the rhythms you used quite unintuitive. The difficulty left a weird feeling after playing it and while playing. I had to sightread the diff instead of trying to guess the rhythms through the song.
  4. 00:24:724 (3) - Too close to previous object.
  5. 00:25:924 (1) - This spinner is too short for an Easy.
Dis' Normal
  1. Most of the timing sections are doubled.
  2. I think you shouldn't stack notes under sliderends because it looks bad most of the time due to stacking, and in this particular case, the BPM changes very often, so the timing of the stacked notes will be very unclear.
Colin's Hard
  1. I find this rather difficult for a Hard, but blame the BPM, I guess. You should just reduce AR by one tick imo.
  2. 00:43:774 (1,3) - These sliders completely threw me off. I couldn't see the track well because of the fast AR and because they are right at the bottom of the map, so I didn't expect them to go up again, and it confused me.
  3. 01:07:624 (4,1) - Very confusing jump because the spacing looks exactly like the 2/1 beats right before.
  4. 01:10:024 (4,1) - Same.
  5. 02:24:422 (4,1) - Same.
  6. 02:26:822 (4,1) - Same.
  7. 02:51:858 (3) - This slider's end is hidden under (1)'s track.
Insane
  1. 00:26:524 (5,1,2) - I'd consider this is a spacing error... I threw me off every single time I played it (and you were watching =p)
  2. 01:22:924 (3) - why this here D: it makes no sense D:
  3. 01:41:431 (10) - This note is very surprising and hardly visible under the other beats
    --- LILAC PART ---
  4. 01:52:906 (4,5,6) - Spacing issue ?
  5. 01:53:806 (1,2,3,4) - This plays and looks extremely weird
  6. 01:57:706 (1,2,3,4) - This stack after such fast streams is mean D:
    --- GARVEN PART ---
  7. 02:46:608 (3) - this right when the singer goes "haarto ha" :3 clever
  8. 03:01:614 (3) - Change its location to even out the spacing ?
People are going to rage at the slider speeds. :3
Topic Starter
Garven

Odaril wrote:

Easy
  1. Most of the timing sections are doubled. What the hell... how did that happen?
  2. Some of the speed changes are too drastic and rather surprising... Try to even out the slider speeds, or at least make the speed changes less harsh.
  3. I find the rhythms you used quite unintuitive. The difficulty left a weird feeling after playing it and while playing. I had to sightread the diff instead of trying to guess the rhythms through the song. It's been awhile since I critically looked at this diff. I'll change things up. Might be a while though.
  4. 00:24:724 (3) - Too close to previous object.
  5. 00:25:924 (1) - This spinner is too short for an Easy. HAH both taken care of in one deft swoop.
Dis' Normal
  1. Most of the timing sections are doubled. >///<

    Insane
    1. 00:26:524 (5,1,2) - I'd consider this is a spacing error... I threw me off every single time I played it (and you were watching =p) It's, uh, different from when you played before. I still like it the way it is though - and it's more tame than it was before.
    2. 01:22:924 (3) - why this here D: it makes no sense D: r-r-riku~ Bleh, you're the second to complain about it though, so just changed to a boring normal note.
    3. 01:41:431 (10) - This note is very surprising and hardly visible under the other beats I feel that it's fairly visible - especially with the contrasting combo colors.
    4. 02:46:608 (3) - this right when the singer goes "haarto ha" :3 clever I do it in the easy too, but it's a little more subtle. <3
    5. 03:01:614 (3) - Change its location to even out the spacing ? I've tried before, but it tends to not work out so well. What is there plays fairly well considering the spacing wonkiness though.
People are going to rage at the slider speeds. :3

No wai. Everyone loves speeeeeeeed
Thanks again~
YTYuyu
This song is awesome. I had so much fun playing it :D
Ragdoll96
:D
Kotone
:D
Colin Hou

Odaril wrote:

Colin's Hard
  1. I find this rather difficult for a Hard, but blame the BPM, I guess. You should just reduce AR by one tick imo. I tried, but I failed 3 times after I did that, AR7 makes there be too many notes at the same time and quite confusing.
  2. 00:43:774 (1,3) - These sliders completely threw me off. I couldn't see the track well because of the fast AR and because they are right at the bottom of the map, so I didn't expect them to go up again, and it confused me. The track is clear enough and as a slider, you don't need to do the same moving with the ball, try stay your mouse at that area and prepare for the next note, that's what I want.
  3. 01:07:624 (4,1) - Very confusing jump because the spacing looks exactly like the 2/1 beats right before. AR8 and the music provide a good support to this, the appearing time is quite different from the 2/1 notes.
  4. 01:10:024 (4,1) - Same.
  5. 02:24:422 (4,1) - Same.
  6. 02:26:822 (4,1) - Same.
  7. 02:51:858 (3) - This slider's end is hidden under (1)'s track. OK, now more like a slider.
Download: supercell - Rock 'n' Roll Nan Desu no (Garven) [Colin's Hard].osu
sirokuro123
i like it ;)

star- :)
xierbaliti
some suggestions here :3

-Insane-
01:35:206 (3,4) - move the two notes a bit left? like this?: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114670
02:26:522 (4) - don't understand why a small jump here ._.
03:18:714 (5,6) - move the two notes a bit up? a example here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114678

so crazy :cry:
yeahyeahyeahhh
suggestions here as well :3

Insane:
Dat crowd...
I don't agree with some of the streams during the guitar solo.. seems not there in the song and overmapped.. just my opinion.
- 01:54:406 (3,4,5) - The overlap here is kinda meh... kinda hard to see and looks ugly :(
- 01:57:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - I wouldn't turn a 1/4 stream end note into a 1/2 stack... players might get confused and continue it as the stream

Hard:
Rhytmn feels kinda weird at places at the beginning... Its like you were trying to follow 10 things at once.. For example..
- 00:46:924 (1) - Start following the vocals here.. then jump to drums here 00:48:574 (6), then back to vocals here 00:49:324 (7).
- 01:01:024 (1) - Start following vocals.. 01:02:674 (4)/01:03:124 (6).. random rhytmn change...
Anways...
- 03:11:814 (6) - Dunno if its like this anywheres, but nazi hitsound find... whistle on the sliderslide :x

Normal:
AR+1?
- 01:10:324 (1) - I don't think this plays well.. feels weird...theres nothing 3/4 about this part in the song.. IMO map it straight 1/1 with the beat or follow the girl in the background..
- 01:13:024 (1) - ^
- 01:42:706 (3) - Also doesn't sound right as a 3/4 slider

Easy:
Fine :3

Ok bye >w</
Topic Starter
Garven

xierbaliti wrote:

some suggestions here :3

-Insane-
01:35:206 (3,4) - move the two notes a bit left? like this?: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114670 Ah, sure.
02:26:522 (4) - don't understand why a small jump here ._. It's a strong emphasis right before the band kicks in again with the くす. Felt good to me. D:
03:18:714 (5,6) - move the two notes a bit up? a example here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114678 Okay~

so crazy :cry:
Haha, but so much fun! Thanks, xier!

Aaand yyy's mod is all not my parts, haha. I'll throw kudosu your way if they make any changes.
elmauri11
Exelent map :) :) Star !
lovhin456
Hi! Random modding ~

General;
- Slider tick 2 for all diffs, makes the speed changes more easier to read
- Try these colors ?
Combo1 : 231,31,31
Combo2 : 67,73,148
Combo3 : 227,87,87
Combo4 : 224,205,139

Easy;
- 00:44:374 (1,2,3) >> Move all to the previous white tick
- 02:02:956 >> Aling with (3)

Dis' Normal;
- 00:22:324 >> Add a finish at start
- 01:16:344 >> Add a note
- 01:17:510 >> Finish
- 01:52:306 >> Too many repeats imo

Colin's Hard;
- AR -1
- 00:03:877 (1,2,3,4) >> Spacing between (1,2) is not the same as (2,3) (3,4)

Insane;
- Nice

* Star ~
YaMaO04
:)
Disoy
Topic Starter
Garven

lovhin456 wrote:

Hi! Random modding ~

o/

General;
- Slider tick 2 for all diffs, makes the speed changes more easier to read It's up to the mappers - I liked mine at 2.
- Try these colors ?
Combo1 : 231,31,31
Combo2 : 67,73,148
Combo3 : 227,87,87
Combo4 : 224,205,139

They were a little too blending to me, sorry.

Easy;
- 00:44:374 (1,2,3) >> Move all to the previous white tick Nah
- 02:02:956 >> Aling with (3) I'm not sure what you mean. ;_;
I'll throw kudosu if you can clarify the easy mod and I agree, or if a guest adds something in. Thanks!
lovhin456

Garven wrote:

lovhin456 wrote:

I'll throw kudosu if you can clarify the easy mod and I agree, or if a guest adds something in. Thanks!
What I meant on Easy was to align (5) with (3) like this
Sorry if I wasn't clear ;~;
Topic Starter
Garven
Ooooh, okay. Well, I made it into a trapezoid instead since I didn't like the motion of the diamond. Thanks~
GladiOol
[General]
  1. Your .mp3 file has a bitrate of 320 kb/s. The maximum allowed is 192 kb/s. Get a new .mp3 file or fix the current one.
[Insane]

00:23:524 (7) - Add a new combo here, because you've done it here 00:25:924 (1) also.
00:27:274 (2) - Please increase the spacing on this one. I really, really expected (and would love to see) a jump on this one, but instead it's a sort of anti-jump. I dunno, but I don't like it. A jump would suit way better. Stacking it under (1) would also fit better imo.
00:48:274 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:48:574 (6) - Add new combo.
00:49:174 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:57:706 (1) - ^


[Colin's Hard]
  1. Tick rate 2 please.
  2. Circle size +1 (?)
00:17:222 (1) - Add a whistle on this note, because you did it here 00:14:697 (1) on the spinner also.
02:57:114 (1) - Remove new combo.
03:17:514 (1) - This is really, REALLY ugly D: Please reshape it to something more appealing. Besides, such slider doesn't even fit with the music at that moment.
03:22:322 (1) - Remove new combo.


[Dis' Normal]
  1. Tick rate 2 please.
00:10:092 (4) - Shorten this slider by 1/2. This way it will follow the music better.
00:15:118 (4) - Move this note one grid to the right so it will ben centerd. (Grid Size: Tiny)
01:09:424 (1) - Remove new combo, because you didn't put a new combo here 01:07:024 (4) either.
01:13:024 (1) - Increase this slider by 1/2.
02:23:822 (1) - Remove new cobmo, because you didn't put a new combo at 01:09:424 either.
02:26:222 (1) - ^
02:26:822 (6) - Add new combo.


[Easy]

Seems fine~


Starred~
Topic Starter
Garven

GladiOol wrote:

[General]
  1. Your .mp3 file has a bitrate of 320 kb/s. The maximum allowed is 192 kb/s. Get a new .mp3 file or fix the current one.
I'm getting a different value here. Windows gives some weird kbps readings when it's VBR.



[Insane]

00:23:524 (7) - Add a new combo here, because you've done it here 00:25:924 (1) also. k
00:27:274 (2) - Please increase the spacing on this one. I really, really expected (and would love to see) a jump on this one, but instead it's a sort of anti-jump. I dunno, but I don't like it. A jump would suit way better. Stacking it under (1) would also fit better imo. Hmm, toyed with the jump since this pattern was originally very different from this tamer iteration.
00:48:274 (1) - Remove new combo. Oops, that shouldn'ta been there. Did the next two as well.
00:48:574 (6) - Add new combo.
00:49:174 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:57:706 (1) - ^ I think I'll leave this one though.
Appreciate the mod, Gladi!
GladiOol
Ah yeah, you're right about the mp3 file. My bad, was looking at the wrong numbers xD
Mitiai
Love this song~ <3
Colin Hou

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

suggestions here as well :3

Hard:
Rhytmn feels kinda weird at places at the beginning... Its like you were trying to follow 10 things at once.. I'm just trying to map the rhytmn in my brain :3
For example..
- 00:46:924 (1) - Start following the vocals here.. then jump to drums here 00:48:574 (6), then back to vocals here 00:49:324 (7).
- 01:01:024 (1) - Start following vocals.. 01:02:674 (4)/01:03:124 (6).. random rhytmn change...
Anways...
- 03:11:814 (6) - Dunno if its like this anywheres, but nazi hitsound find... whistle on the sliderslide :x oops, fixed

lovhin456 wrote:

Hi! Random modding ~

Colin's Hard;
- AR -1 no
- 00:03:877 (1,2,3,4) >> Spacing between (1,2) is not the same as (2,3) (3,4) done!

GladiOol wrote:

[Colin's Hard]
  1. Tick rate 2 please. no.
  2. Circle size +1 (?) no
00:17:222 (1) - Add a whistle on this note, because you did it here 00:14:697 (1) on the spinner also. k
02:57:114 (1) - Remove new combo. this is to make the 'し' look more specific.
03:17:514 (1) - This is really, REALLY ugly D: Please reshape it to something more appealing. Besides, such slider doesn't even fit with the music at that moment. no
03:22:322 (1) - Remove new combo. offset shift
btw I haven't met Disoy for long time..

Download: supercell - Rock 'n' Roll Nan Desu no (Garven) [Colin's Hard].osu
xierbaliti
one thing bugged me. :<
in Dis's normal, 00:11:203 (6) - a strange tick here ._.

emm.. at least make it silent plz.
Topic Starter
Garven
Yeah, playing with stretching slider ends so that it's timed correctly with the offset changes does that, unfortunately. Volume reduced on that tick.

Also moved 00:48:274 (5) - in insane down and left a grid to reduce overlap.
xierbaliti
gogogo :P

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val0108
rank! !r ank !!ra nk!! ! ! !!
NatsumeRin
so long time passed.

let's get it ranked.

......too short?
wring
go~go~gogogoogogoranked!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very very nice :D :D :D
Lilac
Please don't hate me.

416,332,113806,6,0,B|428:276|372:240,1,95,2|0
264,188,114106,2,0,B|252:244|308:280,1,95
388,156,114406,2,0,B|400:100|344:64,1,95,2|0
224,32,114706,2,0,B|212:88|268:124,1,95
312,16,115006,1,2
420,16,115156,2,0,B|496:88|471:210,2,190,2|2|4
136,64,116056,5,0
104,76,116131,1,0
84,104,116206,1,0
80,136,116281,1,0
96,168,116356,1,0
124,184,116431,1,0
156,180,116506,1,0
256,152,116656,1,0
256,152,116806,1,0
256,152,116956,1,0
360,196,117106,5,0
381,222,117181,1,0
383,256,117256,1,0
369,285,117331,1,0
338,304,117406,1,0
306,302,117481,1,0
281,282,117556,1,0
232,224,117706,2,0,B|188:256|204:316,2,95
484,236,118156,6,0,B|488:116|360:72,1,190,4|0
300,56,118606,2,0,B|244:32|176:64,1,95,2|0
Mystgun
good, good. :)
I hope it gets ranked soon.

i'll give this map a star :D
James2250
Does that mean I can't rank it yet? Oh well I can still mod it!

-Your first timing section every difficulty has 157.000 for the BPM (and 2544 offset) but Colin's Hard has 157.500. Make sure they are all consistent
-Try and keep letterboxing the same on all of your difficulties

Dis' Normal:
00:19:924 (1,2) - for a normal probably a better idea to move this pattern as the repeat almost gets hidden by the previous hitburst

Colin's Hard:
-Try HP Drain +1 to make it greater than Normal?
00:47:974 (4,5,6) - move around so the repeat doesn't get hidden

Everything else looks good~
Sakura
baka Garven :<

hope this gets fixed and ranked soon i cant stop listening to this song now D:
Topic Starter
Garven
Haha bubbled and popped while im on vacation. Ill fix it up when I get back tomorrow evening. Thanks you guys!
Colin Hou

James2250 wrote:

Colin's Hard:
-Try HP Drain +1 to make it greater than Normal? done!
00:47:974 (4,5,6) - move around so the repeat doesn't get hidden eh, I've never thought this to be a problem, cuz this slider is already really short, with this bpm, mostly spacing/approaching circle is used for reading, and 00:49:324 (7) is also on the direction which the final repeat goes. (another example: 00:53:224 (6) - we can't clearly read the reverse arrow, but we can hit it :P)
also the bpm issue fixed, which must have existed for monthes orz

Download: supercell - Rock 'n' Roll Nan Desu no (Garven) [Colin's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Garven
Alright, I applied the mod for Disoy's since he seems to be awol, and applied mb's changes. Added in Colin's upload, and everything should be in order. Thanks again!
Sakura
And this Cherry ReBubble should be in order too, ready for James2250 recheck now.

Also why havent i starred this map yet
Colin Hou
bacon my fav food

didn't notice what's in your new ava till saw the signature (failed
Topic Starter
Garven
Bacon is everyone's favorite food, even if they haven't had it yet. It's that good.

Also: Thanks Sakura~ o3o

Edit:

Hey James, Alace has also expressed interest in modding, so if you don't manage to find anything else, please let Alace also leave his mod. Thanks~
phonic
Nice Map


Your map wishes Rnked certain.

This map lover ;)
Alace
After fixing some useless and unsnapped green lines
let`s rock!!!!!
I really love the up up sliders www

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