Hello! I'm probably rushing things considering I've only started playing 4 days ago
I've been doing fairly okay with lots of maps up to 3 stars (when I say fairly okay I mean my accuracy is for the most part above 90% which isn't the best but I'm happy about it for now) here are a few examples of my current "level"
My accuracy starts dropping hard whenever a map uses multi taps in streams or lots of streams in general because my fingers get tired quickly from it and I start lagging behind. It doesn't feel as much of an issue when the circles don't fill the screen but when they do I just get overwhelmed and panic 🤣
I've been exclusively using one finger (alternating between middle finger or index depending on how fatigued my fingers are) but I want to learn how to use both at the same time since I think it's better for the long term and will be less exhausting on more difficult maps whenever I get to that.
I've also been using maps I know the songs of to give me some sort of a head-start as I get used to seeing circles but I don't know if that's a good approach...
I wanted to ask if there are maps that I can practice and would help me get used to multi-taps & streams or others that could help me practice fingers coordination. And finally if anyone has some tips on what to focus on when it comes to practice based on some of the map clips I've shared 🛐
Now most of the things I'm about to ask are probably solved by playing more and getting used to the game but I wanted to ask them anyway to possibly learn different approaches, last thing I'd want is to develop bad habits without knowing 🥲
Uhh... 1. Play more 2. Play a variety of maps, to get better is to throw yourself into the deep end and try and swim 3. Make sure to play a good ratio of TV Size and Long maps (long being 3+ mins long)
now you are in the play variety of maps and experience many different patterns phase if you are having trouble with doubles, tripples or anything else just play more maps that have them, you will eventually be able to hit them
dont avoid maps with patterns that seem hard, just try playing everything bit by bit unless its too hard for you, then you can leave it for later when you feel like you are ready
get to know the game and spend some time basically goofing around and having fun with mods and maps that have your favourite songs, the improvement will come eventually
after some time introduce yourself to some mods and experiment with them in order to have easier time figuring stuff out later on
after you are past allat stuff (you know what kinds of skillsets there are , you know what mods there are) you can choose your grind path for fun player? farmer? score setter? will you main tech? play everything and have rounded up skillset? stream player? jump one trick? speed coke addicted freak?
that stuff looks like build paths in albion online tbh
tldr: enjoy game and get good, after getting good try mods and skillsets, after choosing what mod or skillset you like the most you can either be a certain skillset one-trick, play only some of skillsets or play everything (based option)
Hello! I'm probably rushing things considering I've only started playing 4 days ago
Nothing wrong with wanting to get better lol
1recycle bin1 wrote:
My accuracy starts dropping hard whenever a map uses multi taps in streams or lots of streams in general because my fingers get tired quickly from it and I start lagging behind. It doesn't feel as much of an issue when the circles don't fill the screen but when they do I just get overwhelmed and panic 🤣
I'm not sure what you mean by "streams", because there weren't any streams in the gameplay you're showing. In osu, streams are a very specific term referring to patterns like this:
There's also things called bursts which are like streams but only 3-7 notes long or so.
Yes, you will need both fingers to hit these but honestly you don't have to worry about them now, you can start worrying about them when they start popping up in maps you're playing lol
Also if your fingers are getting tired that could be a sign of bad technique. Relax your hand, you don't need to drill your keyboard like a jackhammer. Also the more you play the better your muscles and technique get so it will become less tiring.
1recycle bin1 wrote:
I've been exclusively using one finger (alternating between middle finger or index depending on how fatigued my fingers are) but I want to learn how to use both at the same time since I think it's better for the long term and will be less exhausting on more difficult maps whenever I get to that.
Nothing wrong with this, most people play using one finger (except they'll use both fingers for bursts and streams). Using both fingers is a skill called alternating or alting, and if you wanted to learn it the it might be better to do it earlier rather than later. There's not really much to learning how to alt, you just gotta force yourself to switch between both fingers on every note until you get the hang of it.
1recycle bin1 wrote:
I've also been using maps I know the songs of to give me some sort of a head-start as I get used to seeing circles but I don't know if that's a good approach...
This isn't a bad thing, eventually you'll get to the point where you know what rhythms to play even without the music for the most part. It's actually uniquely hard to understand the rhythm in lower star maps because the approach rate of the circles are so slow, so yeah you'll probably need to rely on the music for now. (This is not to say you can ignore the music entirely, music is still extremely important for having good accuracy)
1recycle bin1 wrote:
I wanted to ask if there are maps that I can practice and would help me get used to multi-taps & streams or others that could help me practice fingers coordination.
I don't really think there's specific maps that would be good to practice on in the 1-2 star range, because most of the are mapped in a very similar manner and you'll probably move up to 3 stars pretty soon. Just play whatever you want lol. The skills that you might want practice maps for start popping up around the high 3 to 4 star range.
1recycle bin1 wrote:
And finally if anyone has some tips on what to focus on when it comes to practice based on some of the map clips I've shared 🛐
Some specific advice I can give you from watching your gameplay:
In Gameplay section of the settings there's a setting called "hit lighting". Turning it off will get rid of that glow that's left behind after you hit each circle. It's not necessarily better to have it on or off, it's just something you might've not known about, and that most people prefer having it off.
Another thing is that it seems like you I guess overaim sliders or at least follow them too closely? Idk there isn't really a term for this, but basically sliders are a lot more lenient then you think. I found this youtube video that explains more in depth how sliders work:
Because of how lenient sliders are, you don't need to put too much effort to follow them exactly. This is gonna be helpful because as the maps get faster it's gonna become impossible to perfectly aim sliders. And knowing how to play sliders with less effort is also gonna be helpful in playing faster, because you can simplify your movements.
A good example is with small reverse sliders like these:
From this play that you gave you seem to try and aim the whole thing back and forth, but you can literally just click and hold the sliderhead and hit the whole slider without moving your cursor at all. You can see an example of this 6 seconds into the youtube video explaining sliders, the guy doesn't move his cursor on the back and forth sliders.
Also because you play on osu lazer sliders behave slightly differently. I'm not sure how specifically but I'm pretty sure they're stricter than what the youtube video shows.
1recycle bin1 wrote:
Now most of the things I'm about to ask are probably solved by playing more and getting used to the game but I wanted to ask them anyway to possibly learn different approaches, last thing I'd want is to develop bad habits without knowing 🥲
If you're worried about building bad habits here's a few things to keep in mind when you play:
1. Avoid playing with mods too much until you can play 5 stars. You can build some bad habits if you rely on mods too much early on. And by mods I specifically mean Double Time and Hard Rock, those alongside the Hidden mod are the 3 most important. Idk what to say about the other mods, I know lazer has a bunch of them but outside of those three the others aren't too relevant (for now).
2. Don't neglect accuracy. You have decent accuracy now, but if you start rushing forward in difficulty too much then your gameplay could devolve into whack-a-mole, which is bad if you want to have good accuracy in the future.
3. Remember to go outside of your comfort zone. If you're ever wondering why you're not improving but all you do is play maps which are easy for you then this might be why
4. Don't hyperfocus on a singular aspect of the game, and do play a variety of maps. This way you'll be able to play every type of map in the future, and not build bad habits by rushing past fundamentals you haven't developed properly because you only focussed on one skill. And by a variety of maps, I don't just mean different types of maps, but also maps which are long, maps which are short, maps which are hard, maps which are easy etc.
5. Don't retry spam the same map too many times in a row. If you do you could develop mindblock on the map which is when you for some reason can't play a specific pattern on the map because you developed bad muscle memory, which is like developing a bad habit but exclusive to the map lol. Also if all you do is retry or quit every time you miss in general you will kill your consistency. Not saying you can't retry maps, of course you should retry maps you want to get better on them and get good scores on them but try not to go overboard, tell yourself to play something else when you feel yourself getting worse or getting frustrated.
But if you do want to play with the Double Time mod exclusively because everything else is too slow or retry the same map for hours on end to get the perfect run or play 10 star jump maps and pretend you're whitecat or whatever then don't let anyone stop you, what's most important is that you're having fun
I'm not sure what you mean by "streams", because there weren't any streams in the gameplay you're showing. In osu, streams are a very specific term referring to patterns like this:
There's also things called bursts which are like streams but only 3-7 notes long or so.
Yes, you will need both fingers to hit these but honestly you don't have to worry about them now, you can start worrying about them when they start popping up in maps you're playing lol
Also if your fingers are getting tired that could be a sign of bad technique. Relax your hand, you don't need to drill your keyboard like a jackhammer. Also the more you play the better your muscles and technique get so it will become less tiring.
Sorry for the confusion 😅 I'm not very familiar with the terms and thought any amount of notes in that pattern would be considered a stream so thank you for the explanation! I guess I was meaning bursts on 3+ star maps like this
I'll try to be less tense when tapping and work on the way I tap thank you!
1recycle bin1 wrote:
I've been exclusively using one finger (alternating between middle finger or index depending on how fatigued my fingers are) but I want to learn how to use both at the same time since I think it's better for the long term and will be less exhausting on more difficult maps whenever I get to that.
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
Nothing wrong with this, most people play using one finger (except they'll use both fingers for bursts and streams). Using both fingers is a skill called alternating or alting, and if you wanted to learn it the it might be better to do it earlier rather than later. There's not really much to learning how to alt, you just gotta force yourself to switch between both fingers on every note until you get the hang of it.
Will work on that!
1recycle bin1 wrote:
I've also been using maps I know the songs of to give me some sort of a head-start as I get used to seeing circles but I don't know if that's a good approach...
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
This isn't a bad thing, eventually you'll get to the point where you know what rhythms to play even without the music for the most part. It's actually uniquely hard to understand the rhythm in lower star maps because the approach rate of the circles are so slow, so yeah you'll probably need to rely on the music for now. (This is not to say you can ignore the music entirely, music is still extremely important for having good accuracy)
Yeah it's a bit hard to follow the rhythm when I'm not familiar with the song but if it was any faster I'd get lost trying to catch up to the circles lol
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
Some specific advice I can give you from watching your gameplay:
In Gameplay section of the settings there's a setting called "hit lighting". Turning it off will get rid of that glow that's left behind after you hit each circle. It's not necessarily better to have it on or off, it's just something you might've not known about, and that most people prefer having it off.
Another thing is that it seems like you I guess overaim sliders or at least follow them too closely? Idk there isn't really a term for this, but basically sliders are a lot more lenient then you think. I found this youtube video that explains more in depth how sliders work:
Because of how lenient sliders are, you don't need to put too much effort to follow them exactly. This is gonna be helpful because as the maps get faster it's gonna become impossible to perfectly aim sliders. And knowing how to play sliders with less effort is also gonna be helpful in playing faster, because you can simplify your movements.
A good example is with small reverse sliders like these:
From this play that you gave you seem to try and aim the whole thing back and forth, but you can literally just click and hold the sliderhead and hit the whole slider without moving your cursor at all. You can see an example of this 6 seconds into the youtube video explaining sliders, the guy doesn't move his cursor on the back and forth sliders.
Also because you play on osu lazer sliders behave slightly differently. I'm not sure how specifically but I'm pretty sure they're stricter than what the youtube video shows.
Oh okay that makes lots of sense, I thought I have to catch up to it no matter how small the distance is but it's far more lenient than I figured, I'll keep that in mind 🛐
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
If you're worried about building bad habits here's a few things to keep in mind when you play:
1. Avoid playing with mods too much until you can play 5 stars. You can build some bad habits if you rely on mods too much early on. And by mods I specifically mean Double Time and Hard Rock, those alongside the Hidden mod are the 3 most important. Idk what to say about the other mods, I know lazer has a bunch of them but outside of those three the others aren't too relevant (for now).
I haven't messed much with mods that mess with difficulty, figured it's better to get used to the game and maps before messing with them. I think I used the auto spin once and hard rock once and decided not to try any more until later.
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
2. Don't neglect accuracy. You have decent accuracy now, but if you start rushing forward in difficulty too much then your gameplay could devolve into whack-a-mole, which is bad if you want to have good accuracy in the future.
That's definitely something I'm trying to avoid, I feel like it's easy to spam in this game and I'd rather not get used to a bad habit like that.
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
3. Remember to go outside of your comfort zone. If you're ever wondering why you're not improving but all you do is play maps which are easy for you then this might be why
I'm trying to do that lots with songs like this. It was definitely harder than the star rating made it out to be 🥲
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
4. Don't hyperfocus on a singular aspect of the game, and do play a variety of maps. This way you'll be able to play every type of map in the future, and not build bad habits by rushing past fundamentals you haven't developed properly because you only focussed on one skill. And by a variety of maps, I don't just mean different types of maps, but also maps which are long, maps which are short, maps which are hard, maps which are easy etc.
On it! 🫡
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
5. Don't retry spam the same map too many times in a row. If you do you could develop mindblock on the map which is when you for some reason can't play a specific pattern on the map because you developed bad muscle memory, which is like developing a bad habit but exclusive to the map lol. Also if all you do is retry or quit every time you miss in general you will kill your consistency. Not saying you can't retry maps, of course you should retry maps you want to get better on them and get good scores on them but try not to go overboard, tell yourself to play something else when you feel yourself getting worse or getting frustrated.
I've actually had that happen last night while trying to practice a 3.19 map 🤣 kept failing certain parts and resetting to try them again then called it a night lol
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
But if you do want to play with the Double Time mod exclusively because everything else is too slow or retry the same map for hours on end to get the perfect run or play 10 star jump maps and pretend you're whitecat or whatever then don't let anyone stop you, what's most important is that you're having fun
The goal is to play songs I like at a decent level which I think would be achievable 🥹
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain things and give tips! I really appreciate it and will keep working on my gameplay 🛐