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How to deal with the fact that some ppl imrove faster?

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anaxii
Don't compare yourself to others please...
179bpm
dont compare your successes to others please

i did and it nearly made me quit osu
Voidedosu

slowsly4r wrote:

Just saw this guy at 200k with 4 days play time while I'm at the same rank and have like 15 days play time and that shit makes me depressed af
Don't give a shit about it.

You'll improve at your pace. THey'll improve at theirs. You can't do anything about how fast or slow they improve, and comparisons will only hurt you if you think of it that way.

The only person you have any need to compare yourself to is the you of yesterday (or the last time you played), and even then that's only if you won't get frustrated because past you was so much better/worse than present you.
Fxjlk
if they improve 4 times faster than you then just play 5 times more

ez
Babilfrenzo
Mindset is important, but it’s not everything. It’s also important to know yourself and what is currently holding you back. If you’ve tried everything you can possibly think of then comparing the differences in how a faster improving player plays / has played compared to yourself can be useful to get more ideas. It becomes toxic when you start thinking that they are just innately better and you have no “talent”. Figure out what exactly is holding you back as many times as it takes and you’ll eventually surpass them, as long as you play the right kinds of maps and push yourself (hopefully you have fun as well).
loserotaku
man this is too relatable. nothing you can really do because your probably genetics gapped
Fxjlk
Real gamers choose to make the game hard. You can be sad about it or you can see it for what it is.

A challenge. A gift.

If you want an easy game, its because you think being good is more fun.

Its not.
anaxii

loserotaku wrote:

man this is too relatable. nothing you can really do because your probably genetics gapped
Bruh
Happy Satoko
It doesn't really mean anything. As one example, I think I learn at about an average pace, but I spend so much time on low SR that I've racked up tons of hours. If someone plays too much, they'll also rack up more hours even if they're improving at the same rate day-to-day as someone with less hours. Also, someone might improve fast at the start and then hit a plateau when they get to 5* or 6*, or they might have a lot of trouble at the start but improve fast once they have the fundamentals down. Unless you're both playing the same maps, hours aren't really an accurate way to compare yourself to others. Speed isn't everything, the important thing is to keep your spirit so that you don't get burnt out. You can have the most efficient improvement method ever but if you quit the game, you won't get any better anyways.
anaxii

Happy Satoko wrote:

It doesn't really mean anything. As one example, I think I learn at about an average pace, but I spend so much time on low SR that I've racked up tons of hours. If someone plays too much, they'll also rack up more hours even if they're improving at the same rate day-to-day as someone with less hours. Also, someone might improve fast at the start and then hit a plateau when they get to 5* or 6*, or they might have a lot of trouble at the start but improve fast once they have the fundamentals down. Unless you're both playing the same maps, hours aren't really an accurate way to compare yourself to others. Speed isn't everything, the important thing is to keep your spirit so that you don't get burnt out. You can have the most efficient improvement method ever but if you quit the game, you won't get any better anyways.
So basically, a high total play time player doesn't mean that they're improving slower than a low total play time player, there are many factors to consider + a player that improves faster than you doesn't mean that they're going to be better than you a few years later on osu.
DM FOR MUTUAL
Accept that there are people improving faster than you and move on

Instead just focus on your own improvement or enjoy game
ivri-
users/19504729 ask kiwi444 he smokes a lot of copeium
anaxii

mungmeong wrote:

users/19504729 ask kiwi444 he smokes a lot of copeium
NFSO 🤮🤮🤮🤮
179bpm
wait hold on

is it bad to measure by date joined instead of total playtime
Fxjlk

179bpm wrote:

wait hold on

is it bad to measure by date joined instead of total playtime
both playtime and join date are bad ways to measure improvement rate.

Playtime can be faked by playing offline.

Some people quit the game or play a lot less which gives them a join date from a long time ago.

Also pp is not very accurate at measuring skill, its why derankers are such a huge "issue" for tournaments.
Aireunaeus
I've now accepted the fact that some people are improving faster cuz they probably started with hard maps. meanwhile, when I started with easier maps.
Nanofranne
It's unfortunately something you have to accept that everyone progress is not the same.
how much hours played can be irrelevant as everyone can just play offline to appear 'prodigious' after they can get back online and ready to set their top plays
rank is also quite irrelevant because you can also specialise in underrated or even niche skill sets as seen with pp such as alternating, tech, small CS, Low AR, Anti-rhythm, EZ, etc.

At the end of the day, enjoy the game to yourself and don't let these extrinsic things ruin your playing enjoyment
rematyar
This could make you feel better:

I was 53k on 5th August 2021 :D (40k peak on 1st October 2022 lol)
Fat Fish Pete

slowsly4r wrote:

Just saw this guy at 200k with 4 days play time while I'm at the same rank and have like 15 days play time and that shit makes me depressed af
let me just flex my 24 days playtime

anaxii

DaPlebIdk wrote:

slowsly4r wrote:

Just saw this guy at 200k with 4 days play time while I'm at the same rank and have like 15 days play time and that shit makes me depressed af
let me just flex my 24 days playtime

GIGACHAD
JLuca913 891
do not be jealous to another person that improve faster, instead use their rank for inspiration and start pp farming!

this also happened to me but i got inspired instead of being jealous

hope this trick works
anaxii

JLuca913 891 wrote:

do not be jealous to another person that improve faster, instead use their rank for inspiration and start pp farming!

this also happened to me but i got inspired instead of being jealous

hope this trick works
"You're always someone's inspiration"
Aizuuya
Trust me I understand, I have 1.1k hours in this game and im absolute dogshit. Like I have been decaying for 6 months now despite the fact I have played 112 hours since the score that got me to my peak rank. Despite all the time I put into this game I can't even set a single pp score while I see 4 digits with like 600 hours that can set top 10 plays every session.

The way to deal with it is to never have friends in this game and ignore the fact that anyone else plays the game but you. I did that for a while until I just got over it and now I've accepted I will never get to 4 digit and never achieve my goals. My peak rank will be 13.9k forever, but its chill cus we enjoy game.

Anyways, the real way you'll probably deal with it is your osu addiction will be too strong to quit, so worrying about people improving faster wont even matter.
anaxii

Aizuuya wrote:

The way to deal with it is to never have friends in this game and ignore the fact that anyone else plays the game but you. I did that for a while until I just got over it and now I've accepted I will never get to 4 digit and never achieve my goals. My peak rank will be 13.9k forever, but its chill cus we enjoy game.
Not going to lie, I don't know if it's a good idea to not have friends on osu just to avoid dealing with people who improve faster or something.

Your improvement only depends on you and not on others, and it's not because you see someone with a low playtime who's higher in the global ranking than you that you will be like "Ok they're better than me; I will never achieve my goal".
My Angel Marisa
I thought I was about to quit the forums, but well.







start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
anaxii

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
JLuca913 891

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
mania is better
anaxii

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
mania is better
standard better
Wimpy Cursed

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
CTB is so fucking boring
anaxii

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
CTB is so fucking boring
Ok
Wimpy Cursed
easier rank gain though 👍
anaxii
I'm sorry but 🤮🤮🤮
WitherMite
At some point 4k mania just becomes how fast can you play x pattern
I enjoy the easier maps, but as you get into 5*+ its honestly boring to me and killed motivation to even train acc on the easier maps.

I do practice 7k sometimes, still not good enough for any of my plays to get into my top 100 though, think my best is a bit under 80pp.
dung eater
seek power and opress them
kaedori

slowsly4r wrote:

Just saw this guy at 200k with 4 days play time while I'm at the same rank and have like 15 days play time and that shit makes me depressed af
install maple software
JLuca913 891

Anaxii wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
mania is better
standard better
I wish the std scoring system is like the mania scoring system

the world would be so much happier if that happens
anaxii

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
mania is better
standard better
I wish the std scoring system is like the mania scoring system

the world would be so much happier if that happens
I also had these thoughts when I was 200k, but now I just don't care because it won't change oof
JLuca913 891

Anaxii wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
mania is better
standard better
I wish the std scoring system is like the mania scoring system

the world would be so much happier if that happens
I also had these thoughts when I was 200k, but now I just don't care because it won't change oof
what if peppy actually changed it and now you can get an S by getting 95.01-99% acc even with 50s or misses
Aizuuya
I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
anaxii

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

kartofle wrote:

start grinding in mania you'll reach 4 digits if you play enough
Even CTB is better than this mode 🤮
mania is better
standard better
I wish the std scoring system is like the mania scoring system

the world would be so much happier if that happens
I also had these thoughts when I was 200k, but now I just don't care because it won't change oof

what if peppy actually changed it and now you can get an S by getting 95.01-99% acc even with 50s or misses
It wouldn't change the pp system anyway
MrSparklepants

Aizuuya wrote:

I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
Aizuuya my goat (goated opinion)
anaxii

MrSparklepants wrote:

Aizuuya wrote:

I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
Aizuuya my goat (goated opinion)
Average standard enjoyer
UPR

Aizuuya wrote:

I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
Actually real
kujubuo

Stomiks wrote:

They're hacking
not hacking i reached that rank around the same playtime back in the day
anaxii

kujubuo wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

They're hacking
not hacking i reached that rank around the same playtime back in the day
They're just playing the game legitimately I guess
ClevelandsMyBro
not deal with them at all
anaxii
yes
Voidedosu

Aizuuya wrote:

I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
Plus, any score in standard DOES have a cap: It's called the SS score. Just because it's not some universal number for all maps doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
anaxii

Voidedosu wrote:

Aizuuya wrote:

I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
Plus, any score in standard DOES have a cap: It's called the SS score. Just because it's not some universal number for all maps doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
A NM SS will worth less score than a HD 99% FC so it's not really a cap, unless it's HDDTHRFL SS with 477 spm
kaedori

Voidedosu wrote:

Plus, any score in standard DOES have a cap: It's called the SS score. Just because it's not some universal number for all maps doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
its actually the signed 32-bit integer limit which is why some maps force sv2 so that you don't run into that limit (but its still possible im pretty sure)

Aizuuya wrote:

I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
tbh i would love pp-based leaderboard rankings but imo the reason mania scoring kinda works for mania and not for standard is because with standard you have to factor in aim, which is reflected poorly in accuracy but acknowledged more with combo.
anaxii

kaedori wrote:

Aizuuya wrote:

I dont get why people like mania scoring so much. There is no universe where a DT FC should be outscored by a NM SS (unless its like 85% acc). Honestly capped score just ruins the spirit of osu and the reason it exists in the first place. At least for standard, score should never be capped. Score farming would just be so stupid. I love the rewarding feeling of getting exponentially more score as my combo gets higher and higher. It rewards consistency, and capped score just fucking throws it out the window.
tbh i would love pp-based leaderboard rankings but imo the reason mania scoring kinda works for mania and not for standard is because with standard you have to factor in aim, which is reflected poorly in accuracy but acknowledged more with combo.
Standard more based on scores with combo while mania is based on precision in general yeah

Aim is not the only factor in standard though
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