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Wimpy Cursed
time for mania
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Messiar45

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

time for mania
Ye i will play mania instead of this fcking piece of sht
kaedori

Messiar45 wrote:

Idk if pp system would be on accuracy or something like this and not on fcking combos i would be top 100 in my country. Thanks
you do realize the pp system isn't set in stone and is contributed to by members of the community, right? if you dont like some part of it, bring it up with other pp contributors and write up a fix. (in particular, i think the combo scaling rework is waiting for a new scoring system so you dont keep scorev1'ing yourself)

but the funniest thing is that everyone who seems to complain about the pp system and improvement and anything all have the same tv size 6-digit farm maps in their top plays. pp is not something you need to farm for. play longer maps, play more variety, and improvement will come (along with higher rankings)
anaxii
It's not entirely based on combo, your accuracy also have to be high enough to gain pp. You have to be in rhythm with the music to FC with the highest accuracy possible if you want a lot of pp.

Also, don't play for pp please, enjoy game and you will never complain about anything on osu.
Topic Starter
Messiar45
Idk im used on that game and it can made me cry
i want go up in ranks, i dont playing it for fun
kujubuo
Play for skill instead of fun
anaxii

kujubuo wrote:

Play for skill instead of fun
The opposite is true
Naiad

Messiar45 wrote:

Idk if pp system would be on accuracy or something like this and not on fcking combos i would be top 100 in my country. Thanks
I'm sorry but the level of copium here is frankly frightening. Go to the #100 player in your country rankings and try their top play, I guarantee you are nowhere near being able to outacc them on it.

Also, the pp system isn't "only" about combo. (Although it is the biggest factor and I agree that it shouldn't be)
dung eater
git gud
Voidedosu

Messiar45 wrote:

So osu PP system is only about fcking combo?
Wrong.


Messiar45 wrote:

So when you play 1900 clicks map long fcking 5 minutes and in half of that you miss combo on fcking 100 points you get 10 pp?
Probly had 700 100s and 500 50s. EDIT: That or you played some long 1-2* map where 75% of your combo was slider ticks and you still managed to fuck that up with a miss.

Messiar45 wrote:

for real osu? Repair your game then you should wanna take supports and donates. Idk if pp system would be on accuracy or something like this and not on fcking combos i would be top 100 in my country. Thanks
Get good+L+Ratio+Acc better+learn to read.
anaxii

Voidedosu wrote:

Messiar45 wrote:

So osu PP system is only about fcking combo?
Wrong.


Messiar45 wrote:

So when you play 1900 clicks map long fcking 5 minutes and in half of that you miss combo on fcking 100 points you get 10 pp?
Probly had 700 100s and 500 50s. EDIT: That or you played some long 1-2* map where 75% of your combo was slider ticks and you still managed to fuck that up with a miss.

Messiar45 wrote:

for real osu? Repair your game then you should wanna take supports and donates. Idk if pp system would be on accuracy or something like this and not on fcking combos i would be top 100 in my country. Thanks
Get good+L+Ratio+Acc better+learn to read.
The true words of a SS player right here
Voidedosu
I could be your acc and I'd still say the same thing, IAVS.


Point is, the only way his scenario is actually true is is the two thing i posited: He had only one miss but a shit-ton of 100s and 50s, or he was playing a long but easy (SR-wise) map that wouldn't have given much pp anyways and then screwed up. Either one is not Osu's fault.
UPR
Damn, thats alot of copium
MrSparklepants
Rhythm game players when a unique rhythm game that utilizes player aim via mouse or tablet doesn't follow the exact same scoring system as VSRGs or taiko.

Being serious now, osu! takes a lot of dedication and effort to climb the rankings, you can't expect to become a god at a game you only have 83 hours on. I haven't even hit 4 digit and I have 1.8k hours in the game (I probably could hit 4 digit if I mega farmed, but where's the fun in that)
rematyar
Skill issues
Ymir
Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
anaxii

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
Or be a mania player like Wimpy said
Ymir

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
Or be a mania player like Wimpy said
I'd rather hang!
anaxii

-Remi wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
Or be a mania player like Wimpy said
I'd rather hang!
Skill issue
rematyar

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
Or be a mania player like Wimpy said
To be honest, as a shit mania player who could barely pass 3*, the star rating/pp calculation is even worse in mania lol.

I could fc a 2.4* map, yet there's a 1.9* map that I could barely play.
Wimpy Cursed

rematyar wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
Or be a mania player like Wimpy said
To be honest, as a shit mania player who could barely pass 3*, the star rating/pp calculation is even worse in mania lol.

I could fc a 2.4* map, yet there's a 1.9* map that I could barely play.
Yeah don't rely on the SR in mania most of the time.
But the reason why I suggested was because there is no combo penalty
mariapapu
I feel like whether you think PP system is working or not you HAVE to be an actual good player to get to the top ranks. Like I think there are a lot of players for sure who aren't at the ABSOLUTE top even if they got skills for it because they play maps and mods that don't really favor climbing the ranks but you're not gonna be like stuck to the bottom just because of PP lol, you climb the ranks sooner or later if you just work on your skills I think

also yeah no PP doesn't only come from combo lol
UPR

mariapapu wrote:

I feel like whether you think PP system is working or not you HAVE to be an actual good player to get to the top ranks. Like I think there are a lot of players for sure who aren't at the ABSOLUTE top even if they got skills for it because they play maps and mods that don't really favor climbing the ranks but you're not gonna be like stuck to the bottom just because of PP lol, you climb the ranks sooner or later if you just work on your skills I think

also yeah no PP doesn't only come from combo lol
^bump
anaxii

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

rematyar wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
Or be a mania player like Wimpy said
To be honest, as a shit mania player who could barely pass 3*, the star rating/pp calculation is even worse in mania lol.

I could fc a 2.4* map, yet there's a 1.9* map that I could barely play.
Yeah don't rely on the SR in mania most of the time.
But the reason why I suggested was because there is no combo penalty
Basically what the topic starter wants to delete lol
Voidedosu
I can accept not weighing so heavily on combo (I kinda disagree, but I can accept it as a fair argument), but removing combo as a factor entirely is just a no-no.
Naiad

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
is loserotaku like, the dog of the forums? lol
Windows Me
Do you complain about osu!standard's PP system quite frequently? Do you like to rant about how you would've gotten a new top play if only the "trash PP system" didn't rely strictly on combo? Do you like cats? (may or may not be related) Well, let us introduce Ranked Score. Ranked Score is a score-based ranking system that is selling for a low price of $0.00. Amazing, right? Please price your order at rankings/osu/score and choose the mode of your liking—alright, you get the point.

Anyway, all of that aside, don't blame the PP system for relying on "combo" then accuracy or even your ratio between 300s, 100s, and 50s. People who contributed to the making of said system tried their best at perfecting it in the best way possible.
anaxii

Voidedosu wrote:

I can accept not weighing so heavily on combo (I kinda disagree, but I can accept it as a fair argument), but removing combo as a factor entirely is just a no-no.
And it's definitely better like that; combo is necessary on osu
kaedori

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

And it's definitely better like that; combo is necessary on osu
hot take: i would prefer scoring/pp/whatever be based on misscounts than combo
Ymir

Naiad wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Somehow you've managed to make a post that emanates levels of soy that even loserotaku couldn't create.

You are NOT as good as you think you are, and you're benefitting from the system as much as everyone else.
If you want to go up in ranks, just build your combo and get some pp, but if you have such an issue with the way the game works, just quit.
is loserotaku like, the dog of the forums? lol
Once you get to know him he's pretty funny, but he often creates posts like this.
Voidedosu

haxyie bf wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

And it's definitely better like that; combo is necessary on osu
hot take: i would prefer scoring/pp/whatever be based on misscounts than combo
Depending on what you mean, scoring should NEVER be based on miss count.

Yes, missing does and should affect your score (and yes, even a 1-miss on an easy section justifiably should tank your score even if you're 1500x in), but it shouldn't be paramount.
Hoshimegu Mio

Voidedosu wrote:

haxyie bf wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

And it's definitely better like that; combo is necessary on osu
hot take: i would prefer scoring/pp/whatever be based on misscounts than combo
Depending on what you mean, scoring should NEVER be based on miss count.

Yes, missing does and should affect your score (and yes, even a 1-miss on an easy section justifiably should tank your score even if you're 1500x in), but it shouldn't be paramount.
Mania pp is completely separate from combo but purely judging by what I’ve seen, the weight of combo does seem a bit too high on STD. Combo should still be a thing to consider but 95% FC shouldn’t be better than 99% 1 miss at the middle.
Topic Starter
Messiar45

haxyie bf wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

And it's definitely better like that; combo is necessary on osu
hot take: i would prefer scoring/pp/whatever be based on misscounts than combo
my man
League of Legends is more fair
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who cares about ranking up anw
Voidedosu

dPeace wrote:

who cares about ranking up anw
I do

I'd like to submit 5*+ plays at some point before I grow too tired/old.
anaxii

Voidedosu wrote:

dPeace wrote:

who cares about ranking up anw
I do

I'd like to submit 5*+ plays at some point before I grow too tired/old.
But first you need to enjoy game and have fun with friends on osu!
Voidedosu

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Voidedosu wrote:

dPeace wrote:

who cares about ranking up anw
I do

I'd like to submit 5*+ plays at some point before I grow too tired/old.
But first you need to enjoy game and have fun with friends on osu!
I don't have friends. That's too high maintenance on my end.
anaxii

Voidedosu wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Voidedosu wrote:

dPeace wrote:

who cares about ranking up anw
I do

I'd like to submit 5*+ plays at some point before I grow too tired/old.
But first you need to enjoy game and have fun with friends on osu!
I don't have friends. That's too high maintenance on my end.
Then... who am I for you? 😢
Windows Me

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Voidedosu wrote:

dPeace wrote:

who cares about ranking up anw
I do

I'd like to submit 5*+ plays at some point before I grow too tired/old.
But first you need to enjoy game and have fun with friends on osu!
what "friends"
Voidedosu

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Voidedosu wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Voidedosu wrote:

dPeace wrote:

who cares about ranking up anw
I do

I'd like to submit 5*+ plays at some point before I grow too tired/old.
But first you need to enjoy game and have fun with friends on osu!
I don't have friends. That's too high maintenance on my end.
Then... who am I for you? 😢
Idk?
Topic Starter
Messiar45
Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
Wimpy Cursed

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
I play for fun
UPR
I play cause I am addicted :Chad:
mariapapu

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
If a game isn't fun what's there to enjoy lol

I like doing things that are fun
Voidedosu

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
Keep coping.

There's 3 million plus registered users, and hundreds of thousands active daily. It's almost mathematically impossible to not have one person online at any given moment who is playing for the fun of it.
anaxii

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
Osu players when they play osu (they hate playing osu)
kaedori
why is this thread still alive i get bait opinions are attractive to debate but aren't really healthy for the forum ecosystem as a whole or smthng
Dave Seville

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
Has this man ever heard of enjoying something instead of just playing for popularity?
Naiad

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
what? if you don't enjoy the game, stop playing.

haxyie bf wrote:

why is this thread still alive i get bait opinions are attractive to debate but aren't really healthy for the forum ecosystem as a whole or smthng
I'm relatively confident that he's for real.
Windows Me

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
you're making no sense
anaxii

Windows Me wrote:

Messiar45 wrote:

Literally who plays osu for fun, dont try to look cool and funny and tellin me you playing it for fun. You dont got me
you're making no sense
This thread should be locked btw
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