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Help with Aleph-0

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RayRaivern
Map: beatmapsets/518951#mania/1102580
I am really bad with SVs but I still want to at least finish this map.
I always end up dying at the 30 second part (where the notes keep going down with a constant pause).
Any tips for doing that kind of SV?
Cuma Iseng
Use No Fail

To precisely hit such teleport, you need to feel the rhythm. Listen to the song, get used to the melody, then try again.

Learn the chart with the editor (To knowing when the ln should be realase, when to hit the note, etc etc) will help too.
Lights
look at the chart in the editor to get a feel for the patterns and their timings in relation to the music.

or play it with NSV on Quaver / with CMOD on Etterna
Evening

Cuma Iseng wrote:

Use No Fail

To precisely hit such teleport, you need to feel the rhythm. Listen to the song, get used to the melody, then try again.

Learn the chart with the editor (To knowing when the ln should be realase, when to hit the note, etc etc) will help too.
Chart for reference, Cuma's right, it's mostly rhythm that you need to worry about, the rhythm complexity isn't too high

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[LS]PositoniX
remove the svs, practice the map nsv, memorize it, then play it with svs. alternatively just dont waste your time on this piece of shit map
Topic Starter
RayRaivern
Thanks for all the tips and advice everyone; will try them out and hopefully I can complete it.

PositoniX wrote:

alternatively just dont waste your time on this piece of shit map
I honestly don't want to, but someone challenged me to complete it.
So I at least want to complete it.
[LS]PositoniX

RayRaivern wrote:

PositoniX wrote:

alternatively just dont waste your time on this piece of shit map
I honestly don't want to, but someone challenged me to complete it.
So I at least want to complete it.
dont do it if you dont want to. it's gonna make the map feel much more tedious and a lot less fun, and there's no point to play the game if you're not having fun
Topic Starter
RayRaivern

PositoniX wrote:

dont do it if you dont want to. it's gonna make the map feel much more tedious and a lot less fun, and there's no point to play the game if you're not having fun
Don't worry I won't stress myself over 1 map.
I find the fun in this game by improving and becoming a better player; and I need to learn this kind of SV if I want to be a better player.
That's why I made this thread in order to learn how to do these kind of SV.

(Side note: Sorry for the late reply and bumping this thread up)
tgnehs

RayRaivern wrote:

I find the fun in this game by improving and becoming a better player; and I need to learn this kind of SV if I want to be a better player.
That's why I made this thread in order to learn how to do these kind of SV.
:thinking::thinking::thinking:

You don't need this kind of SV to be better. Usually when SV is implemented like this it's a complete gimmick and not related to skill at all. You're only going to find this stuff in loved beatmaps, where the SV is unpredictable and has to be memorized. Probably not worth you're time.

While it can be impressive and fun to play once you do memorize the songs, there are so many songs out there with SV that is actually well done and much more fun than this kind of mess. That kind of SV is learnable. Being able to predict it based on the type of music/rhythm and process it without getting caught off guard once you see it, or learning to read slowjam, speed ups, stutter SV, freeze SV, and other frequently used SV patterns is not only fun but also a cool gimmick to learn.

Below I have listed the contents of my "Fun" collection, which I play to remind myself that osu!mania is fun.
  1. Camellia - Bassline Yatteru? w
  2. Hommarju - Wowie Zowie!
  3. Ta9-5 - Positie (feat. Looci)
  4. YUC'e - Chemical Cookie
  5. RIOT - Overkill
  6. Camellia - Lunatic Rough Party!! (Long Ver.)
  7. jioyi attacked by mirror - I lost my flp
  8. Dustvoxx - Trigger (Zekk Remix)
Wait... its all SV? Well tbh I left out a few non SV songs, and in hindsight it may be due to music preferences, or perhaps even that I like chordjacks and unique LN patterns, but the point is that they all have SV (man this argument sounds weak). Note, however, that I'm able to play most of these songs without much effort - I have them in the "Fun" collection because I can bob my entire body to the rhythm and the SVs, which is stupid fun. Try it some time.

But don't get the wrong idea, b-baka. SV isn't fun most of the time. There are over 100 songs in my "SV" colletion and only 10 of them made it to the "Fun" list, and only 2 of them made it to my "Favorites collection" (40 songs).

But it is fun when some guy in multi challenges you to an SV song they have 200 plays in and you absolutely destroy them despite sightreading.
Topic Starter
RayRaivern

tgnehs wrote:

:thinking::thinking::thinking:

You don't need this kind of SV to be better. Usually when SV is implemented like this it's a complete gimmick and not related to skill at all. You're only going to find this stuff in loved beatmaps, where the SV is unpredictable and has to be memorized. Probably not worth you're time.

While it can be impressive and fun to play once you do memorize the songs, there are so many songs out there with SV that is actually well done and much more fun than this kind of mess. That kind of SV is learnable. Being able to predict it based on the type of music/rhythm and process it without getting caught off guard once you see it, or learning to read slowjam, speed ups, stutter SV, freeze SV, and other frequently used SV patterns is not only fun but also a cool gimmick to learn.

Below I have listed the contents of my "Fun" collection, which I play to remind myself that osu!mania is fun.
  1. Camellia - Bassline Yatteru? w
  2. Hommarju - Wowie Zowie!
  3. Ta9-5 - Positie (feat. Looci)
  4. YUC'e - Chemical Cookie
  5. RIOT - Overkill
  6. Camellia - Lunatic Rough Party!! (Long Ver.)
  7. jioyi attacked by mirror - I lost my flp
  8. Dustvoxx - Trigger (Zekk Remix)
Wait... its all SV? Well tbh I left out a few non SV songs, and in hindsight it may be due to music preferences, or perhaps even that I like chordjacks and unique LN patterns, but the point is that they all have SV (man this argument sounds weak). Note, however, that I'm able to play most of these songs without much effort - I have them in the "Fun" collection because I can bob my entire body to the rhythm and the SVs, which is stupid fun. Try it some time.

But don't get the wrong idea, b-baka. SV isn't fun most of the time. There are over 100 songs in my "SV" colletion and only 10 of them made it to the "Fun" list, and only 2 of them made it to my "Favorites collection" (40 songs).

But it is fun when some guy in multi challenges you to an SV song they have 200 plays in and you absolutely destroy them despite sightreading.
At first, thanks for taking your time and writing me this.

I am still pretty new to SV and Rhythm games in general. Deemo is my first rhythm game; and I only started playing it 1 year ago; Deemo also doesn't have any SV so they are a first for me in Mania.

I want to learn this kind of SV and it seems the only way to learn them is through enough experience and practice.

Also really thanks for that SV map list will definitely check them out.
I already have a score(It's not good) on Bassline.
[LS]PositoniX

RayRaivern wrote:

PositoniX wrote:

dont do it if you dont want to. it's gonna make the map feel much more tedious and a lot less fun, and there's no point to play the game if you're not having fun
Don't worry I won't stress myself over 1 map.
I find the fun in this game by improving and becoming a better player; and I need to learn this kind of SV if I want to be a better player.
That's why I made this thread in order to learn how to do these kind of SV.

(Side note: Sorry for the late reply and bumping this thread up)
you will not learn to improve your sv from playing aleph o from playing it a million times. sv is just memorization, especially in aleph o which has some very unique svs.
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