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We may be just days away from seeing a black hole for the first time ever

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abraker
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TheLegendaryHD

abraker wrote:

It's estimated that we would reach kardashev 1 status sometime in the 22nd or 23rd century if humanity survives that long.



abraker wrote:


well i think it still possible for human to reach that stage if we stop being selfish to nature but still its sad for me because i cannot live that long

also that dude explaining it so well lmao very perfect explanation, and i saw a comment in there saying "You know, it really makes me sad that Stephen Hawking and many other great scientist didn't get to see this." :(

but still elon get a chance to watch this event
cravenfiner
technology is advancing so quickly damn
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TheLegendaryHD
also wtf this is so scary and amaze me at the same time
in the video you mentioned

at 7:37 the image of tomorrows black hole will probably look like the one you watch on "Interstellar" movie

i mean like dude is it coincidence that they calculated the image right?
damn Christopher Nolan

heres the image from that movie:
ColdTooth
woah, holy shit, if this is for real, ima gunna be stockin' up on watching this
abraker
I think technology progressing at a meh kind of speed. I am ready for holograms and brain interfaces enabling telepathy

If you think technology is fast, wait until we make the first general purpose AI. That will prob happen in 2040's

Eventually regulations/law will not be able to keep up with the progressing technology
levesterz
Inb4 chaos when someone decide giving android free will
Tad Fibonacci
Mean while, I'm still waiting for the instant pizzas, hover boards and flying cars they showed in back to the Future.
Aiseca
TLDR to those who don't want to read tons of materials regarding humanity reaching Kardashev Type I civilization:

The host world will undergo extreme high temperature and many organic matter will perish along with it. Energy consumption will be too great, all ideas of 'energy conservation' and 'environmental protection' will be all put in the trash because it's impossible to implement.
abraker
Not all energy consumption has to happen on this planet.
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TheLegendaryHD
It certainly can, the real question is if human civilisation will become a Type 1 civilisation or not. Becoming a Type 1 civilisation isn't all that difficult from a technical perspective, all the necessary technologies already exist. There are a few things that could prevent it from happening, like a nuclear war in the next 100 years or so, or other global catastrophes. Maybe our birth rate will drop so much, that we stop growing our numbers, and stays that way, in which case we have no need to become a Type 1 civilisation. Whether or not a civilisation reaches Type 1 status depends largely on size, the more people you have the easier it is, and at some point it happens automatically, regardless of your technology.

heres i show you interesting explanation about evolution, there are possibly 6 evolution

1. Caveman


The very first evolution of humankind. Cavemen are descended from ancient apes. They are typically portrayed as wearing shaggy animal hides, and capable of cave painting, like behaviourally modern humans of the last glacial period. Anachronistically, they are simultaneously shown armed with rocks or cattle bone clubs, unintelligent, and aggressive, traits more like those of archaic humans from hundreds of thousands of years before this period.

Most important of all, Cavemen are the only species who can make fire compared to other contemporary animals. Fire appearances help them a lot in cooking food, rituals, agricultures, generating light, smelting, forging. Generally speaking, Cavemen create the first source of energy generation: Fire.

2. Human


A few million years later, another species has evolved from Cavemen, called Human. Otherwise known as the modern human. Unlike Cavemen, Humans are characterized by upright posture and bipedal movement; manual dexterity and increased tool use, compared to other animals; and a general trend toward larger, more complex brains and societies. With said brains, they are capable of high levels of abstract reasoning, language, problem-solving, sociality, and culture through social learning.

Industry also starts in this age. Many generators are invented such as: Hydroelectric Plant, Windmills, Steam Engines, Fusion Reactors... These inventions improve and enhance their life.

3. Prostheticman


When Humans know and take advantage most of the scientific and technological knowledge they have and evolve into Prostheticman. Renewable energy totally replaces the non-renewable energy at this age. More over, economic, industry, agriculture, transportation have been drastically improved. We can call this the technology age.

With more advanced science and technology, astronomy is strongly developing. The Protstheticmen's civilization has reached Type I on Kardashev scale, which means they can fully control their home planet. Therefore, celestial body discovering and colonizing planets becomes one of their most important mission to achieve. Humankind now needs new energies and materials for their existence.

Standford Torus and Star Lifters is taken over in the meantime.

4. Geneticman


Prostheticmen begin thinking about how to create their own energy by themselves. And when they achieve that, they evolve into a new species called Geneticman. Geneticmen are no longer dependent on technological and modern devices. That's also why they can easily conquer their own home star, their solar system. They begin dabbling in solar system exploration, observation, and energy generation. As a result, they have risen to Rank II on the Kardashev Scale.

With an auto-creating energy ability, a lot of experiments and buildings are discovered and developed: Tritium Generators, Space Wind Gather, Antimatter Core,... Notably, they can finally research the final way to produce energy: Graviton Gather.

5. Robot


Physical Humans no longer exist. And Robots replace us. Being able to work without getting tired or exhausted, as well as limitless knowledge and abilities, means they have expanded their civilization to a whole galaxy. Every planet, star or solar system in that galaxy has been conquered and colonized. Even the central black hole is conquered too, which leads into the birth of Singularity Gather.

Now, human's civilization has finally reached Type III on the Kardashev scale. Capturing the energy of gamma-ray bursts is now a possible power source for a highly advanced civilization. The emissions from quasars can be readily compared to those of small active galaxies and provide a massive power source.

6. Posthuman


Robots are humans who transferred their consciousness into robotic shells which gave them a long time to understand how the universe works, leading them to evolve themselves beyond their physical limits, becoming Posthumans.(Alternatively, it could be said the robots are using their processing power to design better robots, these better robots then do the same and this cycle repeats until building the robots is going to take longer than designing them, at which point the robots are going to switch to a method which can quickly change form: Posthuman)

Posthumans can answer every question in the universe, they can travel everywhere at anytime they want, simply by using their mind. Generally speaking, Posthumans have completely conquered their own universe, its physical laws, particles, matters, dark matters, dark energies; all taken by Posthumanity, making them a Type IV on the Kardashev scale.

This is the final stage of human's evolution, the only way to go further is Ascension.
levesterz
^ it felt like an explanation to a clicker game
abraker
Because it does sound like an explanation to some game.

In reality we will start jumping straight to machine as soon as the first general purpose AI is made. Genetics and prosthetic will become as relevant as the gameboy micro did. It had a short and irrelevant reign. Before those start becoming mainstream, machines will offer more advantages then remaining organic, putting anything organic a novelty within a span of couple centuries.
Aiseca

abraker wrote:

Not all energy consumption has to happen on this planet.

Precisely, because Earthbound energy resources cannot cover the gap to reach type I, simple.

abraker, HD, check the explanation here:
abraker
Imagine a type III civilization create black hole to slingshot across another blackhole just to see if it would tear itself into two blackhole pieces
Tad Fibonacci

abraker wrote:

Imagine a type III civilization create black hole to slingshot across another blackhole just to see if it would tear itself into two blackhole pieces
I think they'd either merge or disperse. They're just 2 lumps of highly compressed mass.
cravenfiner
hey abraker’s meme was right
abraker
When you read enough science articles, you know what to expect.
Tad Fibonacci
Well, he is the mad scientist.
Topic Starter
TheLegendaryHD
yes this is the image of the black hole



they captured it using event horizon telescope with 55 million distance away, and the black hole is as large as our solar system it is located in our center galaxy

because of the image is capture not in real distance we can only see the shadow of it which is not very sharp, they didnt take a photo, they collected data about the black holes and are piecing together an illustration as to what the black hole probably looks like, the same way that a photo is just data collected ant stitched together, except here you are limited by distance and current technology.

theyre using interferometry, so they will get a real image once they process their data.
but they said the actual black hole will look like the "Interstellar" movie black hole



also heres an interesting video about what we can get from this event

abraker
One neat thing looking at the image tho, you can tell its tilt and direction of rotation

Topic Starter
TheLegendaryHD
beautiful explanation by veritasium



i can already see the future
kardashev scale type 1 soon
Vuelo Eluko
defrost me when science makes my wiafu real
ColdTooth

Vuelo Eluko wrote:

defrost me when science makes my wiafu real
ok see you in 80 million years
Westonini

ColdTooth wrote:

Vuelo Eluko wrote:

defrost me when science makes my wiafu real


ok see you in 80 million years


don't worry, we'll wait for your return.
Topic Starter
TheLegendaryHD
abraker when he was just a child

abraker
hmm
ColdTooth
What scares you the most?

"abraker."

-ColdTooth
abraker
abraker: *exists*

coldtooth: °•°
Westonini
abraker: "abraker"

ColdTooth: abraker: °•°

*exists* What scares you the most?

- abraker
abraker
what kind of amalgamation of a meme is that?
abraker
levesterz
That pic of blavkey holey look like eye of sauron
levesterz
And i do some digging looks like i am not the only one thinking that.
levesterz
New theory: lord of the ring is rea........
TeeArctic1
I mean, if we go for the multiverse theory, then yes, there exists a universe where LOTR is reality
Topic Starter
TheLegendaryHD

abraker wrote:



imagine black hole is going towards our solar system
dung eater
Where do i sigh up? never thought you csn get so flexible in just days
Ryoid
they are two black hole under my nose
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TheLegendaryHD


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