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Mr_Shiro_
well, I noticed that whenever i start playing a map, osu forced the settings to turn on Vsync, so i just turned on Vsync and it seems like that fixed the problem for me. Getting around 0.5 ms and no stuttering.
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Dntm8kmeeatu

Mr_Shiro_ wrote:

well, I noticed that whenever i start playing a map, osu forced the settings to turn on Vsync, so i just turned on Vsync and it seems like that fixed the problem for me. Getting around 0.5 ms and no stuttering.


That's impossible.

Vsync forces your framerate to be that of your refresh rate, so 0.5ms is literally impossible. You are mistaken.
Unexpected
Started these lag spikes about 13 days ago after turning my PC on. Previously windows wanted to update to build 1803 but every time it tried to go through the update procedure, it would just restart the PC mid update and corrupt my windows directory. There is no malware, there is no faulty hardware and I have tried running the update without any drivers but nothing works, it always corrupts my windows copy no matter what.

I'm still on build 1709 but i get the same exact issue everyone else is getting. Which is really strange. Also windows update managed to re-enable itself but without prompting an install for the 1803 build which was REALLY strange to me. It updated many other things except windows. Even after those driver updates, (and ones I performed second hand) I still get the same issue. This issue doesn't just happen on osu either, it happens systemwide at random times.

As ram increases to build up usage, the stutters get worse. So I thought it could be a page file issue but even then it didnt fix it. What minimized the amount of stutter I got was moving osu to my HDD (I have windows on a 120gig SSD) the stutters till happen randomly but the frame times are more consistent. I suspect this is due to the fact that windows processes are not interfering with your game, giving it more consistency.

i7-2600
GTX-1050ti
8GB RAM
120gig SSD
1TB Western Digital Blue

(social security number if requested Kappa)
Mr_Shiro_

Dntm8kmeeatu wrote:

Mr_Shiro_ wrote:

well, I noticed that whenever i start playing a map, osu forced the settings to turn on Vsync, so i just turned on Vsync and it seems like that fixed the problem for me. Getting around 0.5 ms and no stuttering.


That's impossible.

Vsync forces your framerate to be that of your refresh rate, so 0.5ms is literally impossible. You are mistaken.


0.9ms, my bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMF0QTmAwE
The video shows 1.2 ms, but that's because i was recording. The stutters in this were only in the recording, i didn't see it when i was recording.
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Dntm8kmeeatu

Mr_Shiro_ wrote:

Dntm8kmeeatu wrote:

Mr_Shiro_ wrote:

well, I noticed that whenever i start playing a map, osu forced the settings to turn on Vsync, so i just turned on Vsync and it seems like that fixed the problem for me. Getting around 0.5 ms and no stuttering.


That's impossible.

Vsync forces your framerate to be that of your refresh rate, so 0.5ms is literally impossible. You are mistaken.


0.9ms, my bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMF0QTmAwE
The video shows 1.2 ms, but that's because i was recording. The stutters in this were only in the recording, i didn't see it when i was recording.


Vsync is not working, otherwise you would be at 16ms. It's possible it's being overridden by your GPU Driver settings, please check those. You shouldn't be using Vsync anyways though however.
Mr_Shiro_

Dntm8kmeeatu wrote:

Mr_Shiro_ wrote:

Dntm8kmeeatu wrote:

Mr_Shiro_ wrote:

well, I noticed that whenever i start playing a map, osu forced the settings to turn on Vsync, so i just turned on Vsync and it seems like that fixed the problem for me. Getting around 0.5 ms and no stuttering.


That's impossible.

Vsync forces your framerate to be that of your refresh rate, so 0.5ms is literally impossible. You are mistaken.


0.9ms, my bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMF0QTmAwE
The video shows 1.2 ms, but that's because i was recording. The stutters in this were only in the recording, i didn't see it when i was recording.


Vsync is not working, otherwise you would be at 16ms. It's possible it's being overridden by your GPU Driver settings, please check those. You shouldn't be using Vsync anyways though however.


These are my NVIDIA control panel settings:
Ambient Occlusion: Off
Anisotropic filtering: Off
Antialiasing - FXAA: Off
Antialiasing - Gamma correction: On
Antialiasing - Mode: Off
Antialiasing - Setting: None
Antialiasing - Transparency: Off
CUDA - GPUs: All
DSR - Factors: 4.00x (native resolution)
DSR - Smoothness: 33%
Maximum pre-rendered frames: Use the 3D application setting
Multi-Frame Sampled AA (MFAA): Off
OpenGL rendering GPU: Auto-select
Power management mode: Optimal power
Shader Cache: Off
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample opti...: On
Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias: Allow
Texture filtering - Quality: Quality
Texture filtering - Trilinear optimisation: On
Threaded optimisation: Auto
Triple buffering: Off
Vertical sync: Off
Virtual Reality pre-rendered frames: 1
------------------------------------------
Can someone try to copy these settings and see if it fixes the problem?
EDIT: The problem is fixed for me, btw. Just don't know what fixed it. Sorry
EDIT2: The problem is not fixed, just randomly started stutturing again.
Topic Starter
Dntm8kmeeatu
Change Power Management settings to Performance, or something similar (I have AMD so I don't know what NVidia has exactly)
FuZ
I have constant micro stutters
Compatibility mode and "Reduce dropped frames" reduce the stutters a bit but they're still here, they're not that big but very annoying when playing mania and ctb
I have everything at default in the nvidia control panel
Superfetch doesnt change anything

i5 2500K
8GB ram
GTX 1080

I had the same problem with my old HD 5870
louisevaliere
for me, the game is forcing vsync on, because I get 17ms response time. I'm not sure if this problem is related though. (absolutely unplayable. It feels like playing with a mouse underwater lmao) It only ever happens when I start the song. In the menu, the frames aren't limited. The stuttering interval is between like .5 - 5 seconds.
InFish
I can confirm that disabling the superfetch service resolved the seemingly random but very heavy stuttering issue on my end :D
fiftyframes
I started getting the random stuttering issue around a couple months ago - thought it was strange since I'd never seen it before. It would stutter about every 5 seconds or so, which made it pretty unplayable at that point. One thing I noticed, though, was that even while sitting at any of the menu or song select screens the track that plays in the background would skip the exact same way.

I checked drivers to make sure they were good. I also used Sandra to run some diagnostics and make sure my hardware was consistent. Everything checked out, so I tried closing out other programs and browser tabs (I always have a lot of tabs open for pages or videos to check out later) and that cleared up the stuttering issue for me - mostly. I still get a single stutter here and there while playing, but it's rare - maybe once or twice over a few hours.

It seems strange since I've got pretty good hardware. I may have to try the Superfetch tip if it happens to get really bad again.

i7-4960X 3.6GHz
32 Gb Ram
GTX 1080 Ti
Windows 10 Pro
Rajeevan123
Pls Help me Osu lag in the menu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxCyHud7_4I


FIX: I Disable Anti-Virus SONAR-Protection
Lull
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Mr_Shiro_
Yeah, i just checked again. For me, being connected to the Wi-Fi causes the stutter. I haven't stuttered once when i'm not connected to wi-fi. As soon as i reconnect, i start stuttering again. I don't think it's osu doing this, but more like Windows 10 starts doing something with the internet and just causes the whole computer to stutter, but osu is affected by it the most.
I did a bit of research on this stuttering thing and people get it on other games as well, since the April 2017 update for Windows 10 or something.
EDIT: My audio also stutters at the same time, and produces a short low buzz sound.
M00s
stutter after osu! update, anyone knows how can i fix it?
Kathovamid
Nothing worked so far
In this case, sound works flawlessly. Picture is the problem.

Hardware diagnostics didn't show anything suspicious. GPU, CPU and memory usage remained constant below 30%.

Win10 64
GTX 1080
i7 8700K 3,70 Ghz
2 x8 GB RAM 2666MHz

Full screen, letterbox

Nvidia Control Panel


slow-mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgY1HhgV5jQ
Xiah
My problems mirror what others in this thread are experiencing. Lull's video replicates exactly what i'm experiencing. It seems to only happen sometimes, some sessions are normal while sometimes it's unplayable. It's possibly related to fast startup, but I'm not entirely certain as I have that disabled, but I think windows updates turn it on. Will have to test it for certain.
Sl4yerKing
I believe completely uninstalling Discord and reinstalling it COULD be a possible fix, and it's probably worth testing out. It may have solved an issue I had similar to this (discord will save the servers your are a part of so you don't have to worry about losing them)
To uninstall it simply go to control panel -> Programs -> uninstall a program, and then find discord.
Unexpected
Video posted by Kathovamid accurately demonstrate my exact issues with the stutters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgY1HhgV5jQ
Pituophis
disabling superfetch does nothing for me. please come up with a fix soon
Darkstryk
I've tried all the fixes listed here none of them worked for me, I managed to fix it for a while by capping the fps to 240 instead of unlimited, but now the stutters have come back and are more consistent. Here's a video of the lag/stutter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgziupS0y94
Ulquileon
I just came back to the game and was really surprised to experience stutter while playing because none of my settings changed and they worked fine back at the time.

I tried a lot of things :

-Tweaking Nvidia control panel
-Removing osu and getting it back
-Tried every settings possible IG
-Close everything while i play
-Turn off Wifi
-Check for GC update

Nothing fixed it, i have like 2 or more times per song, this thing lasts for maybe 0.5 sec and i see an fps drop right when it's happening. My CPU never goes off 40% and i really don't know what to try next...

im running on :
- Windows 10 64bit
- 8Go of RAM
- Intel Core i5 3GHz
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti
- 1920x1080 60Hz screen
- Osu in fullscreen

If you need anymore info pls ask me :)
Thanks for your help !
Pituophis
idk if this helps but my intergrated graphics card spikes to 100% even though osu is set to run on my dedicated graphics card.
stategamer

Sl4yerKing wrote:

I believe completely uninstalling Discord and reinstalling it COULD be a possible fix, and it's probably worth testing out. It may have solved an issue I had similar to this (discord will save the servers your are a part of so you don't have to worry about losing them)
To uninstall it simply go to control panel -> Programs -> uninstall a program, and then find discord.


It was discord for me too, don't know why but it randomly takes up quite a bit of CPU as of late 10-15 up to 20% for just discord.

Turning off discord solved it for me.

Perhaps OSU reporting to discord in some way that doesnt seem to synch up?
Darkstryk

stategamer wrote:

Sl4yerKing wrote:

I believe completely uninstalling Discord and reinstalling it COULD be a possible fix, and it's probably worth testing out. It may have solved an issue I had similar to this (discord will save the servers your are a part of so you don't have to worry about losing them)
To uninstall it simply go to control panel -> Programs -> uninstall a program, and then find discord.


It was discord for me too, don't know why but it randomly takes up quite a bit of CPU as of late 10-15 up to 20% for just discord.

Turning off discord solved it for me.

Perhaps OSU reporting to discord in some way that doesnt seem to synch up?


I just tried that, didnt work unfortunately
Pituophis
idk if this is related, but in addition tot he frame stutters, editor is practically unusable. laggy, many dropped frames, distorted sound, speeding up and slowing down, low fpsc
Mr_Shiro_
Try uninstalling any tablet drivers that you have installed. Might fix for some people.
Really
Hey, I just updated my osu! To the newest version, and after the current update, osu started to lag and freeze more frequently. I have tried to uninstall, optimize my computer for the best performance aswell as restarting my computer. Before the update everything worked just fine, but at the time being I can't even play the game. If anyone know the solution, please help me.

Note: After the update were finished all of my settings were reseted to default and all of the beatmaps loaded. And the latency drastically changed from around 4 - 16.

I've done some research and all I could think off was stuttering. For me they normally appear during sliders and jumping and last for about 0,7 - 1.5 seconds. I'm currently on Windows 8.1 & the newest version.
Darkstryk
There was a new nvidia driver update today, and i also uninstalled asus gpu tweak. Not sure which it was, but the stuttering seems to be gone for now!
Mr_Shiro_
I've reduced the rate of stutters by giving osu absolute bandwidth priority, using an ASUS application called GameFirst IV. This has made the game at least playable.
bigmancallum5
As Putting my offset to 1ms worked sometimes so try that.





https://gyazo.com/079c56c041c4c6493db69f48b881fb0a
Potsu
For some reason Amazon Prime video in chrome just being open causes me significant stuttering every second or so. With the frame times graph turned on I see the spikes happening with Update/IPC (Should probably change these colours they look identical) and SwapBuffer.

Closing that tab fixes the stutter. The weird thing about it is that it isn't running on my GPU (on second monitor plugged into mobo with hardware acceleration off in chrome.) and it doesn't look like it is doing anything with disk or network or CPU.

As soon as I close that tab there's no more spikes in my framerate.

I'm on win 10 1803 and using Nvidia GTX 970 with 399.07 driver.

If you're also having stutter issues try closing all apps and just run OSU see if that still gives you frame stutter.
Alpyne
1) How severe were the stutters?, how often did they happen?, How long did they last?
It's been happening very recently on my end. it happens every 3-10 seconds and lasts for like 0.2 secs.

2) What did you do to fix them, or reduce their frequency?
I haven't come up with a way yet. I hope someone will respond and show me how to fix it.

3) What Operating System & Update version are you using?
I'm using Windows 10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.228)
0reo
Stutters started a few months ago so I stopped playing for the time. I came back recently and it was fine for a few weeks, but then it started again. Lag doesn't fix no matter what I try. Has there been any word on a universal fix yet?


Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMHG4MRLGf0&feature=youtu.be
vjdato21
12twentynine
My problem resolved after disabling the superfetch
Thanks to this thread :D
virdotcom
Same problem here, Just installed Windows 7 64 Bit a couple weeks ago. Also just installed osu! today and stutters are still appearing. I tried VSync, going into windowed mode, but stutters still remain. Also i've noticed how my ms just randomly go up for some reason.

I've been also noticing on how osu! uses about 100% of CPU power so windows explorer just crashes until i close the game. (probably because of my old CPU)

My PC Specs:

NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS 512MB
7GB RAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+
Toshiba 290GB HDD

Link to video to show stuttering: https://youtu.be/cX4nlZbiKlc
vjdato21
1) How severe were the stutters?, how often did they happen?, How long did they last?
They were not actually stutters, but I noticed the frame-rate decreased and the input delay/latency increased. They often appeared during the times where streaming and many sliders and circles were displayed on the screen.
2) What did you do to fix them, or reduce their frequency?
I enabled Compatibility Mode, and it worked as it was before (good performance). But the game would minimize itself periodically, other than that it will take time for you to restore osu when minimized.
3) What Operating System & Update version are you using?
Windows 10 1809
Scribble_Nerd
I'm also having this problem :\

The stutters happened about every 25 seconds and lasted maybe a little less than 1 second

And I have tried mostly everything in this form post and stuff my friends have told me (reinstall osu, play on a different PC ect) and the only thing that has worked so far is restarting my pc and then when I close out and then relaunch osu it starts lagging again

specs:
i7-8700K Overclocked @5GHz
GTX 1060 3GB GTX 1070 6GB (forgot I upgraded)
20gb DDR4 RAM

Windows 10 Home Build 1803 for x64-based Systems (The latest update I have done is 2018-09 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems (KB4457146))

Edit: My friend has also had this issue but has fixed it with this guide https://www.twitch.tv/videos/170813020, the guide has not worked for me. Here is a clip from the stream my friend was doing https://clips.twitch.tv/ConsiderateScaryOrangeOSfrog and here is a clip of the lag happening for me https://youtu.be/41SPBgZ24UQ

Edit #2: Updating my graphics drivers has fully removed the stutter from it!

Edit #3: nvm it was just because i restarted
Keegen
Just after the update, my osu has started to stutter if I don't use compatibility mode and have a 1 ms latency if I do. I've tried doing the usual turning off windows inc, changing settings in my gpu, etc but nothing has worked. I've even uninstalled and reinstalled the game and still...nothing.

My specs:
Gpu: AMD Radeon RX550
Cpu: AMD Ryzen 1500X
RAM: 8GB DDR4

Any help would be seriously appreciated!
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