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Mir
00:15:911 (3) - offscreen by a bit on topdiff
fieryrage
Lol
Topic Starter
byfar
Yikes

fixed the offscreen slider by the way
Hollow Delta
whoops
UndeadCapulet
tyui, asphyxia, xilver, 1112
01:57:064 - inaudible

byversible, bonzi
entire diffs are 80% and that's really lame

most diff could prob use more volume changes as well
Halfslashed
whoops

Fix the inaudible hitobjects mentioned by UC then i'll stay out of this.
techno3452
a Mystery's Insane

00:52:425 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the spacing here is the same with 00:56:025 (4,5,6,7,8) - might cause misundertsnding
Topic Starter
byfar

UndeadCapulet wrote:

tyui, asphyxia, xilver, 1112
01:57:064 - inaudible
fixed
byversible, bonzi
entire diffs are 80% and that's really lame


most diff could prob use more volume changes as well
it is a slight improvement, yes, but a major hassle on my end. I don't want to force 14 of my guest difficulty mappers to go out of their way for such a minimal change.

i have, however, changed some values for my own difficulties

techno3452 wrote:

a Mystery's Insane

00:52:425 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the spacing here is the same with 00:56:025 (4,5,6,7,8) - might cause misundertsnding

the lead-in to the quintuplet is already assisted by a set of three 1/4 repeat sliders. it's perfectly fine to read as is.
thank you thank you!
EijiKuinbii
шош
Topic Starter
byfar
any more suggestions please leave below asap
anna apple
asop's fables
Topic Starter
byfar
osu top 10 saddest moments
Dashyy-
sharkie:

00:41:283 (1) - uhhh u sure this ok on an advanced diff lol
Topic Starter
byfar

Dashyy- wrote:

sharkie:

00:41:283 (1) - uhhh u sure this ok on an advanced diff lol


looks fine
Hollow Delta
Thanks for the fix, UC.

Lets go for reals
Nao Tomori
nathan, sukinathan's current name, is missing from tags. also unless i'm blind his diff is missing from the set. please get that resolved before proceeding with the ranking process.

mikii and xilver are also missing and i suggest adding m_o_k_o_r_i as well
Topic Starter
byfar
LOOOOOOOOOL

2018-07-15 15:35 byfar: yo bubblun
2018-07-15 15:36 byfar: could you rebubble avalanche for me?
2018-07-15 15:47 Bubblun: yoo
2018-07-15 15:47 Bubblun: When I can sit down I will. Going back and forth between pc atm
2018-07-15 15:47 byfar: aite sounds good
2018-07-15 15:49 Bubblun: AITE BET
2018-07-15 15:49 byfar: aite bet
2018-07-15 15:50 byfar: this is where some random person comes in
2018-07-15 15:50 byfar: and pops the map
2018-07-15 15:50 byfar: LOL

anyways yes sukinathan's diff isnt in the set anymore, but if he would like to apply mods re-enter the set i'm down

applied the tag fixes

(and please can people just pm me issues before the map is bubbled? this is getting very irritating)
Otosaka-Yu
Where is my osu id in the tags? :(
Irreversible
Topic Starter
byfar
Sig1h
Topic Starter
byfar
updated
sahuang
Best map
sahuang
Novice
00:38:025 (4,1) - The stack here is quite confusing for this level of difficulty, and you didn't do it elsewhere
01:34:768 (1,2) - why not same shape as 01:33:397 (1,2) - considering what you've done 00:52:254 (1,2,3,4) -
01:52:435 (4) - maybe delete this? I think this chain is kinda long compared to rest of the map.

Advanced
00:41:283 (1) - These kind of reverse sliders are too difficult for Advanced diffs so please try to simplify them.
01:05:283 (2) - Don't use burai (especially those with clear backward movements like this) in low difficulty

Hyper
01:01:854 (1,2,3,4) - the overlaps and stacks make aesthetics really bad here and it's kinda messy when playing

Mystery
00:41:283 (1,2,3,4) - The snapping is 1/6, check other difficulties. A 1/4 stream here is not ok
01:45:064 (3,4) - maybe make 4 same shape as 3, to keep consistency with 01:44:378 (1,2) -

1112sb
00:57:054 (1,2,3,4) - 滑条尾静音,顺便你这个hs一直都是80%,建议稍微变一点
01:06:911 (5,6) - 这个好像太坑了点吧,感觉像是滑条接滑条
01:58:435 - 5% here

Eiji
00:13:768 (1) - no need NC here
00:26:197 (1,3,4) - improve blanket as it looks bad now
00:31:168 (5,6,7,8,9) - What is the reason of putting so many 1/8 kicks here? The music does not imply such intense thing, and 00:31:168 (5,6) - 00:31:340 (7,8,9) - have 2 different sounds. So I think you should change this part.
00:41:283 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1/6s here, check other diffs.
00:54:825 - missing circle here
00:57:740 (1,2,3,4) - Complete overlap is way too confusing to play. and I dont think it is rankable. Try it in game, it is extremely catchy
01:00:483 (1,2,3,4) - etc same, change all
01:06:826 (6) - the sound here is different from previous ones, so a kick isnt good, try 2 circles
01:38:883 - kiai starts here so make sure u snap correctly

Xilver
00:13:168 (7,8) - Reverse arrow is completely hidden so you might wanna change the position of 00:13:168 (7) -
01:45:921 (2,3,1) - Any reason for such a big 1/4 spacing here? Doesn't seem to be consistent with rest of your map

Will do the rest later
Topic Starter
byfar
thanks u the G
Otosaka-Yu

sahuang wrote:

1112sb 呜呜呜萨总裁你肿么可以这样对我qwq uwu T_T
00:57:054 (1,2,3,4) - 滑条尾静音,顺便你这个hs一直都是80%,建议稍微变一点 改了一点
01:06:911 (5,6) - 这个好像太坑了点吧,感觉像是滑条接滑条 这个我在热狗那张猫叉的insane里也是这样用的,基本能看得出来。
01:58:435 - 5% here fixed

Will do the rest later
Thank you~

Insane
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161,372,113293,2,0,P|145:325|155:279,1,80,2|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,168,113635,2,0,P|254:204|252:244,1,80,10|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
457,223,113978,6,0,B|396:229|396:229|354:211,1,80,6|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
378,222,114235,1,2,0:0:0:0:
378,222,114321,2,0,L|388:168,1,40,10|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,139,114493,2,0,L|451:78,1,40,2|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
370,28,114664,2,0,P|354:75|364:121,1,80,2|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
449,216,115006,2,0,P|463:180|461:140,1,80,10|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
357,104,115350,6,0,P|318:113|266:105,1,80,8|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,98,115607,1,2,0:0:0:0:
194,87,115693,2,0,P|155:84|116:93,1,80,10|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
73,236,116035,6,0,L|66:173,1,40,10|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,207,116207,1,2,0:0:0:0:
191,241,116293,1,2,0:0:0:0:
186,280,116378,2,0,L|299:282,1,80,10|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
353,343,116721,1,8,0:0:0:0:
449,216,117064,6,0,B|448:157|396:127|396:127|491:150|522:227|491:293|436:333|436:333|424:272|355:258,1,480.000018310548,6|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
byfar
萨总裁
Xilver15

sahuang wrote:

Xilver
00:13:168 (7,8) - Reverse arrow is completely hidden so you might wanna change the position of 00:13:168 (7) - Fixed
01:45:921 (2,3,1) - Any reason for such a big 1/4 spacing here? Doesn't seem to be consistent with rest of your map It's just for emphasis
https://xilver.s-ul.eu/FUjZd5eh
sahuang
captin
01:45:064 (5) - NC for consistency

Byversible
00:51:911 (1,1) - this looks really awful, try a blanket..
00:57:054 (1,2,3,4) - they are completely overlapped and really confusing to play, maybe do a small overlap for them

rrtyui
00:06:911 - Since u added a circle 00:06:225 - so maybe need some consistency here?

Ultra
00:41:025 (6,7,8,1) - this seems too difficult, especially after the super spaced zigzag pattern you put an anti jump flow like 00:41:111 (7,8,1) - ...
01:13:254 (1,1,1) - 01:17:968 (1,1,1,1) - what are these NC for? Maybe you want an emphasis of DS increase cuz music has an increased tune, but in other similar places you didn't use this concept. I think it's a bit too abrupt and not a good idea of introducing such thing only after half of the song has passed. Also these 2 seem randomly introduced lol

Should be all, top diff is passable for me and looks nice visually, so all good!
EijiKuinbii

sahuang wrote:

Eiji
00:57:740 (1,2,3,4) - Complete overlap is way too confusing to play. and I dont think it is rankable. Try it in game, it is extremely catchy
01:00:483 (1,2,3,4) - etc same, change all
yeah i tried it in game and it's absolutely playble for me, for my friends, who have much less pp than me, and for other testplayers
absolutely not confusing overlaps
sahuang
It is definitely playable, in fact all patterns in this game are playable. But considering how you dealt with this kind of rhythm in second half of kiai, I think it is way too confusing here. Maybe you knew what you mapped so it is not a problem. But for most players who tried to play it in first try, the stack could make people think it is a circle following the slider, rather than a slider repeating itself.

Anyway I wouldn't pick on that for now, it's just retarded af and I think when it goes into ranked section many people would feel the same :D
Topic Starter
byfar
fixed everything else

eiji

01:38:883 - kiai starts here so make sure u snap correctly

it's snapped to the red timing line

01:06:826 (6) - the sound here is different from previous ones, so a kick isnt good, try 2 circles

i can see why he kept using the 1/4 slider, so i try not to change too much from the original

00:57:740 (1,2,3,4) - Complete overlap is way too confusing to play. and I dont think it is rankable. Try it in game, it is extremely catchy
01:00:483 (1,2,3,4) - etc same, change all

same as above^. imo this pattern makes it very difficult for a 4.6 star insane, but let's chat with more people to discuss its rankability (since i'm not entirely sure)

rrtyui
00:06:911 - Since u added a circle 00:06:225 - so maybe need some consistency here?

it transitions better without the circle
EijiKuinbii
get some feedback from mappers who have 2.5-3k pp(normal rank for this starrate) and saw this map for the first time
Asphyxia
When we getting this ranked boys
fieryrage
get virgin code
sahuang
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[ Ari Knight ]
where is the CTB diff? deleted?? :cry:
Garden
hi

general:
eiji's current id is not in tags
can you discuss a bit and make those diffs with a spinner/slider at last end at the same spot

momoko easy:
basically no hitsounding

mikii novice:
00:03:397 - finish on tail sounds weird

sharkie advanced:
00:37:683 (6) - 00:48:825 - drum whistle
01:26:540 (1,2,3) - should be some hs here

yuzuriha hyper:
00:25:511 (2) - 00:32:368 (2,3,1,2) - and etc. i don't quite get the 1/3 usage and imo they should be 1/4 instead
00:28:254 (3,4,1) - may just make things linear instead of getting messy overlaps
00:53:968 (2,3) - drum whistle

a mystery insane:
01:28:254 - to 01:32:368 - missing some basic hitsounding
01:44:035 - clap

1112 insane:
01:06:483 (2,3) - drum whistle

eiji insane:
00:03:054 - weird finish usage
00:42:311 - 00:42:483 - could add whistle to better support your rhythm here
00:59:968 (8) - should be 1/6 snapping
01:12:825 (1) - 01:13:511 - drum sample and a whistle missing
01:13:168 (1) - clap missing
01:38:368 (2) - 1/4 slider is enough for emphasize imo, don't force too many 1/8 gaps on insane level players
01:43:693 (1,2) - current hitsounding pattern completely goes against your rhythm pattern

toybot another:
00:15:911 - drum whistle

xilver extra:
00:19:511 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - add normal hitnormal or whatever provides a strong feedback to those blue ticks without a hitsound, some just sound like singletaps
00:37:340 - 00:37:683 - 01:21:740 (1) - 01:25:854 - drum whistle
00:42:140 - 00:42:311 - 00:42:483 - whistles would fit your rhythm here
00:59:797 - clap
01:26:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - what happened to hs
01:57:064 - no 5% on active objects allowed

asphyxia extra:
00:19:940 (3) - 00:21:996 (12) - 00:22:682 (6) - 01:46:093 (3) - normal sample could provide better feedback for the triplet
00:30:140 - clap
00:30:825 - 00:31:168 (5) - 00:37:340 - 00:37:683 - 01:21:054 (1) - 01:25:854 - drum whistle 01:26:540 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) -
00:42:140 - 00:42:311 - 00:42:483 - whistles would fit your rhythm here
00:59:968 (2) - 1/6
01:44:035 - this should be a clap while 01:44:207 - this should be drum whistle
01:57:064 - no 5% on active objects allowed

captin extra:
00:42:140 - 00:42:311 - 00:42:483 - whistles would fit your rhythm here
01:43:950 (2) - works better if it's split into 1/4 slider+circle since that would make it clearer what u wanna follow

bonzi extra:
00:28:254 (1,2) - 1/8 gap too harsh ;d
00:42:140 - 00:42:311 - 00:42:483 - whistles would fit your rhythm here
00:51:740 - 01:48:321 - drum whistle
01:05:283 (1) - add one reverse like you did to the rest similar spots
01:49:693 (4) - use same hs as 01:49:007 (4) - 01:50:378 (4) - please

fiery extra:
00:08:711 - missing normal whistle
00:13:769 (8) - 00:22:254 (2) - 00:22:683 (6) - 00:22:940 (8,9) - etc. add something so triplet doesn't sound like singletaps -_
00:26:283 - 00:26:368 - eh you should probably exchange their sampleset
00:46:768 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - ..feedbacks sound messy here

byversible extra:
00:12:910 (2,4) - 00:13:768 (3) - 00:22:254 (1) - 00:22:683 (2) - 00:22:940 (1,2) - 00:23:283 (1,2) - uh and etc. n sample i gues

tyui extra:
01:57:064 - no 5% on active objects allowed

ultra:
00:19:168 - should end at redtick instead?
00:20:283 (2) - 00:21:654 (2) - n sample
00:48:482 (5) - missing hs
01:57:150 (1) - please no normal sample spinner tail lol

top:
00:47:968 (4,5) - 00:50:025 (3,4) - 00:48:654 (3,4) - weird feedbacks on them
01:20:368 (1) - should end at blue tick instead i suppose

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I don't really feel like popping since sahuang has resigned, but there are some unrankables.
uhh am I a hitsounding nazi or actually nobody cares about hs, can EVERYBODY (except top three diffs) check ur own diffs and see if ur hitsounding feedbacks cater well to ur rhythm patterns?

Well, call me back when things are addressed.
Asphyxia
@Garden fixed everything
fieryrage
all of it is byfar's issue due to hitsounds so lo
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