Had a quick IRC about the Cup and Salad diffs
IRC stuffs
2018-02-16 13:36 Xetopia: I want to know, this stuff is rankble or not
2018-02-16 13:36 Xetopia: Hello :>
2018-02-16 13:36 Xetopia: Can u testplay my map? cup and salad
2018-02-16 13:36 celerih: I'm about to leave actually
2018-02-16 13:36 celerih: got some shopping to do, if you catch me online later tho ask and I think I'll have the time
2018-02-16 13:37 celerih: what's the map?
2018-02-16 13:37 Xetopia: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/588051
2018-02-16 13:38 Xetopia: oh, okay, np
2018-02-16 13:38 celerih: actually my brother can wait I can playtest these real quick
2018-02-16 13:38 celerih: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1257039 u's - Angelic Angel (Movie Edit) [Cup]] <CatchTheBeat>
2018-02-16 13:40 Xetopia: xd, okay, thanks <3
2018-02-16 13:41 celerih: there are a few rhythm I think can be improved on
2018-02-16 13:42 celerih: here 00:23:197 (2,3,4,5) - instead of that try https://celerih.s-ul.eu/p102j47d
2018-02-16 13:42 celerih: it follows both drums and vocals more accuratly
2018-02-16 13:43 celerih: and here you could have it a slider like on 00:29:009 (2) - so there's some consistency between the two
2018-02-16 13:44 Xetopia: okay, changed
2018-02-16 13:45 celerih: also can you give this an angle 00:26:759 (4) - all the 1/2 slider have it
2018-02-16 13:45 celerih: or at least most
2018-02-16 13:45 celerih: quick question why is tick rate 2 use
2018-02-16 13:46 celerih: if you have a reason for it you can keep it, but otherwise I'd advise against in in lower diffs
2018-02-16 13:47 Xetopia: idk, I think it helps make a good shape of slider
2018-02-16 13:48 celerih: ookay yeah testing with tr1 it's particularly bad on this map
2018-02-16 13:48 Xetopia: k, no problem
2018-02-16 13:48 celerih: one last thing I'll mention on the cup is 01:20:947 (3,1) - this distance is too large, with the antiflow for a cup
2018-02-16 13:51 Xetopia: k, then i'll make less distance
2018-02-16 13:52 celerih: now onto the salad!
2018-02-16 13:53 Xetopia: owo
2018-02-16 13:53 celerih: the distances on your dashes for the first section of your salad need some more work, the distance on 00:10:447 (4,1) - works really well, so I'd have the same distance on 00:01:259 (4,1) - 00:04:446 (5,1) - 00:05:759 (3,1) -
2018-02-16 13:53 celerih: to make it easier for ppl to know when there is a dash
2018-02-16 13:56 celerih: this section here 00:21:322 (7,1,2) - is too difficult for a salad, as it has a lot of movement right after the other
2018-02-16 13:56 celerih: dash into anti-flow reverse into another dash is really harsh for a salad player
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: to fix this, I think the best way of going about it is to flip 00:21:697 (1) - to remove the anti-flow the make the dash on 00:22:447 (2,1) - instead of 00:21:697 (1,2) -
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: so there's more leniency on the player
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: plus 00:22:634 (1) - is on a stronger sound
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: so a dash to it works really well
2018-02-16 13:58 Xetopia: oohhhh, reaaaaaally works well
2018-02-16 13:58 Xetopia: thanks
2018-02-16 13:58 Xetopia: LOL
2018-02-16 13:59 celerih: yay
2018-02-16 13:59 celerih:
2018-02-16 13:59 Xetopia: ecksdee
2018-02-16 14:01 celerih: distances here 01:11:197 (2,3,4,1) - are pretty hard to tell if they are supposed to be dashes or not. Making them all dashes would be too hard, so try and make it more obvious which are dashes and which are walks
2018-02-16 14:03 celerih: there's a few more things here and there but I actually have to go now so I'll just mention one last thing
2018-02-16 14:03 celerih: the Base SV being 1.75 makes this a pretty difficult salad because even some walks require a decently good timing
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: I know it's a hard thing to change after the map being done and all, but if possible think about maybe reducing to like 1.55
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: that would already help the diff a lot imo
2018-02-16 14:04 Xetopia: i'll try this thing
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: good luck with this map
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: !
2018-02-16 14:05 Xetopia: thanks <3
2018-02-16 14:05 Xetopia:
2018-02-16 14:05 celerih: np (:
2018-02-16 14:05 celerih: okay bye
2018-02-16 14:05 Xetopia: bye o/
2018-02-16 14:05 celerih: I'll post irc so there's a trace of what was changed
2018-02-16 13:36 Xetopia: Hello :>
2018-02-16 13:36 Xetopia: Can u testplay my map? cup and salad
2018-02-16 13:36 celerih: I'm about to leave actually
2018-02-16 13:36 celerih: got some shopping to do, if you catch me online later tho ask and I think I'll have the time
2018-02-16 13:37 celerih: what's the map?
2018-02-16 13:37 Xetopia: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/588051
2018-02-16 13:38 Xetopia: oh, okay, np
2018-02-16 13:38 celerih: actually my brother can wait I can playtest these real quick
2018-02-16 13:38 celerih: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1257039 u's - Angelic Angel (Movie Edit) [Cup]] <CatchTheBeat>
2018-02-16 13:40 Xetopia: xd, okay, thanks <3
2018-02-16 13:41 celerih: there are a few rhythm I think can be improved on
2018-02-16 13:42 celerih: here 00:23:197 (2,3,4,5) - instead of that try https://celerih.s-ul.eu/p102j47d
2018-02-16 13:42 celerih: it follows both drums and vocals more accuratly
2018-02-16 13:43 celerih: and here you could have it a slider like on 00:29:009 (2) - so there's some consistency between the two
2018-02-16 13:44 Xetopia: okay, changed
2018-02-16 13:45 celerih: also can you give this an angle 00:26:759 (4) - all the 1/2 slider have it
2018-02-16 13:45 celerih: or at least most
2018-02-16 13:45 celerih: quick question why is tick rate 2 use
2018-02-16 13:46 celerih: if you have a reason for it you can keep it, but otherwise I'd advise against in in lower diffs
2018-02-16 13:47 Xetopia: idk, I think it helps make a good shape of slider
2018-02-16 13:48 celerih: ookay yeah testing with tr1 it's particularly bad on this map
2018-02-16 13:48 Xetopia: k, no problem
2018-02-16 13:48 celerih: one last thing I'll mention on the cup is 01:20:947 (3,1) - this distance is too large, with the antiflow for a cup
2018-02-16 13:51 Xetopia: k, then i'll make less distance
2018-02-16 13:52 celerih: now onto the salad!
2018-02-16 13:53 Xetopia: owo
2018-02-16 13:53 celerih: the distances on your dashes for the first section of your salad need some more work, the distance on 00:10:447 (4,1) - works really well, so I'd have the same distance on 00:01:259 (4,1) - 00:04:446 (5,1) - 00:05:759 (3,1) -
2018-02-16 13:53 celerih: to make it easier for ppl to know when there is a dash
2018-02-16 13:56 celerih: this section here 00:21:322 (7,1,2) - is too difficult for a salad, as it has a lot of movement right after the other
2018-02-16 13:56 celerih: dash into anti-flow reverse into another dash is really harsh for a salad player
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: to fix this, I think the best way of going about it is to flip 00:21:697 (1) - to remove the anti-flow the make the dash on 00:22:447 (2,1) - instead of 00:21:697 (1,2) -
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: so there's more leniency on the player
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: plus 00:22:634 (1) - is on a stronger sound
2018-02-16 13:57 celerih: so a dash to it works really well
2018-02-16 13:58 Xetopia: oohhhh, reaaaaaally works well
2018-02-16 13:58 Xetopia: thanks
2018-02-16 13:58 Xetopia: LOL
2018-02-16 13:59 celerih: yay
2018-02-16 13:59 celerih:
2018-02-16 13:59 Xetopia: ecksdee
2018-02-16 14:01 celerih: distances here 01:11:197 (2,3,4,1) - are pretty hard to tell if they are supposed to be dashes or not. Making them all dashes would be too hard, so try and make it more obvious which are dashes and which are walks
2018-02-16 14:03 celerih: there's a few more things here and there but I actually have to go now so I'll just mention one last thing
2018-02-16 14:03 celerih: the Base SV being 1.75 makes this a pretty difficult salad because even some walks require a decently good timing
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: I know it's a hard thing to change after the map being done and all, but if possible think about maybe reducing to like 1.55
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: that would already help the diff a lot imo
2018-02-16 14:04 Xetopia: i'll try this thing
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: good luck with this map
2018-02-16 14:04 celerih: !
2018-02-16 14:05 Xetopia: thanks <3
2018-02-16 14:05 Xetopia:
2018-02-16 14:05 celerih: np (:
2018-02-16 14:05 celerih: okay bye
2018-02-16 14:05 Xetopia: bye o/
2018-02-16 14:05 celerih: I'll post irc so there's a trace of what was changed