cdfa silly
this rule is gone wrote:
Your difficulties should all end at the same spot. Having a fully-mapped Normal/Hard and a half-mapped Easy just looks sloppy/lazy. A full Easy may look boring to you, but not to a player that can't handle the harder difficulties.
pishifat wrote:
so there's benefit for mapper quality of life, but maybe not for osu in general imo
it doesn't specify it has to be mapped on every difficulty just that it must be mapped in general (I literally re-read that rule before posting to be sure). If it's mapped only in insane, it's still mapped.CDFA wrote:
well looks like were gonna have to change that thenpishifat wrote:
@noffy im pretty sure the "you must map up to 80% of your map's mp3" rule counteracts that
yea but ppl gonna extand 4:xx songs with R3 music boxes so it's even worse imoNatsu wrote:
Reducing content for new and casual players is never good for a game.
i read that part but i idisagree with the logic you use to arrive at that fact that longer songs are not content for new playersUndeadCapulet wrote:
chatlog i had w/ pishi, highly encourage anyone worried about new players to read through it:
i feel like natsu/oko/etc. just aren't reading my posts at all atm, bc if they did they wouldn't be saying this is lowering content for new players. 4min diffs are not appropriate for new players. it's not content for them. if anything those types of diffs will be a turnoff bc of how draining it can be to play them. this proposal doesn't hinder newer players in any way, it will only be adding content for hard+ players.
Ah fair enough. I read that wrong then.Okoratu wrote:
i know im saying i'd prefer that over the possibility that there's even more stuff that is inaccessible to new players trying to get into the game or the average player
pishifat wrote:
if i were running osu and had i an interest in expanding its audience, i'd think this kind of change isnt very good. out of ranked maps selection, there would be a smaller fraction of content available for lowest level of players, alienating the potential future of hte game or something along those lines. the idea that new players are already alienated with 5+min songs, so being lenient with other lengths should be fine sounds more like a reason to remove approval from game dev perspective (which i'm not interested in doing).
yeah this seems the most reasonable at least from the suggestionsAncuL wrote:
I'm thinking more like this. since H is way more accessible than N. IX only is just too small imo. Since we are having problems with 4:30 maps, we don't need to do anything with anything below 4:00
- if the drain time is <4:00 your set's lowest diff must be normal or lower
- if the drain time is 4:00-5:00 your set's lowest diff must be hard or lower
- >5:00 can be anything
AncuL wrote:
- if the drain time is <4:00 your set's lowest diff must be normal or lower
- if the drain time is 4:00-5:00 your set's lowest diff must be hard or lower
- >5:00 can be anything
I'm thinking more like this. since H is way more accessible than N. IX only is just too small imo. Since we are having problems with 4:30 maps, we don't need to do anything with anything below 4:00