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JUDYDANNY
Hello, and sorry to late...
via M4M

[Timing]

  • :!: 01:23:089 - ~ change to 3/4 its not common.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:06:661 - not kat...? to follow the bass up-down-up-down... like 00:03:090 (1,2,1) - .
  2. 00:35:947 - + 00:37:197 - how about?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385949 - to make a consistent with 00:24:518 (16,17,18) - and 00:30:232 (2,3,4) - ? It needs to consistency because of the similar flows with instrumental.
  3. 00:38:447 - try add don? to linked with 00:32:375 (5,6,7) - . Its more fun with plays imo. lol
  4. 00:46:661 - , 00:52:375 - add , too lower dense than intro.
  5. 00:57:911 - add kat, too airly.
  6. 01:09:875 - ,add don? it seems very lonely...
  7. 01:15:589 - same reason, add don?
    :!: 01:24:518 - move to 1/1 left ,it seems to not well followed the waltz.

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:447 - move to 1/1 left? to make a consistent with rhythm.
  2. 00:36:482 - move to 00:35:589 - and change to kat? 2-2 seems to be surprised. Its better to make a consistent with 00:41:304 - than current.
  3. 00:38:268 - add don? similar as Kantan.
  4. 00:47:018 - , 00:52:732 - add kat? similar as Kantan.
  5. 01:05:947 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - not use 1/1+1/2 like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9474628 ...?
    It seems not well flow as Current Futsuu imo.
  6. 01:10:768 - add note? too airly imo.
  7. 01:11:661 - ~~~ same. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9474630
  8. ,01:16:482 - same, add note?
    :?: hmm....01:19:518 - change to kat(*-2), 01:20:232 (23,24,25,26) - change to ddkk(*-1), 01:21:661 (27,28,29,30,31,32) - change to ddd-kkk(*-3?

    • *-101:20:232 (23,24,25,26) - d-d-k-k seems not well followed with chorus. d-k-d-k seems much better.
      *-2to avoid the same flow with 01:20:232 (23,24,25,26) - .
      *-3plays better imo like Kantan coloring.
    :!: 01:24:518 - move to 1/1 left, similar as Kantan.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:03:625 - move to 00:04:875 - ? seems better to connect and use 1/1 plet.
  2. 00:15:768 - remove, to make a consistent with 00:49:518 (21,22,23,24) -
  3. 00:38:268 - add don, 00:38:625 - add kat? like futusu,kantan suggestions.
[Oni]
  1. 00:26:482 (70,71) - consider to remove the greenline and 00:27:018 - change to x0.87 (1→0.87→0.75). It's early to deceleration.
  2. Comapring with 00:44:518 - ~~ and 00:50:232 - ~~, its too far dense. Should add more from 00:50:232.
  3. 01:21:482 - seems to good to me to add kat for climax.
  4. 01:18:982 - consider to change to kat, to make a gap colors with 01:20:411 - . it plays and sounds better.
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:12:197 - change to don, 00:14:339 - and 00:18:625 - change to kat? - to emphasized for piano.
  2. 00:12:464 (16,17) - dk, 00:18:804 (62,63,64) - ddk?
    • - bored dkddk, its not clear dkddk on 00:14:518 (31,32,33,34,35) - .
      - 00:18:804 - ~~ Its different from usual flow, it seems to use normal way.
  3. 00:26:482 (102,103) - same as Oni. should remove green and 00:27:018 - change to x0.87.
  4. 00:38:268 (54,55,56,57) - kdk-k seems better with plays imo lol.
  5. 00:55:054 - change to k? seems better to make a different 00:55:054 (11,12) - k-d.
  6. 01:18:982 - consider to change to kat, same as Oni.
Call me when you checked them(¦3[___]
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello, and sorry to late... np, i delayed the same time :<
via M4M

[Timing]

  • :!: 01:23:089 - ~ change to 3/4 its not common. My bad, fixed
[Kantan]
  1. 00:06:661 - not kat...? to follow the bass up-down-up-down... like 00:03:090 (1,2,1) - . Yeah, changed
  2. 00:35:947 - + 00:37:197 - how about?https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385949 - to make a consistent with 00:24:518 (16,17,18) - and 00:30:232 (2,3,4) - ? It needs to consistency because of the similar flows with instrumental. Yeah, I added a kat here 00:37:732 (14) - for more consistency
  3. 00:38:447 - try add don? to linked with 00:32:375 (5,6,7) - . Its more fun with plays imo. lol Looks good, added
  4. 00:46:661 - , 00:52:375 - add , too lower dense than intro. Added
  5. 00:57:911 - add kat, too airly. Added
  6. 01:09:875 - ,add don? it seems very lonely... Added
  7. 01:15:589 - same reason, add don? I added kat and changed this 01:15:946 (8) - to don for counterpart with 01:09:875 (7,8) -
    :!: 01:24:518 - move to 1/1 left ,it seems to not well followed the waltz. I added note to follow the vocal, I guess it's fine now (forgot the before pattern lol)

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:447 - move to 1/1 left? to make a consistent with rhythm. Moved
  2. 00:36:482 - move to 00:35:589 - and change to kat? 2-2 seems to be surprised. Its better to make a consistent with 00:41:304 - than current. I removed that note, feels weird if 00:35:589 - have note because i'm following the vocal.
  3. 00:38:268 - add don? similar as Kantan. Added
  4. 00:47:018 - , 00:52:732 - add kat? similar as Kantan. Added
  5. 01:05:947 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - not use 1/1+1/2 like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9474628 ...?
    It seems not well flow as Current Futsuu imo. I think you're right, it feels a bit hard for a Futsuu
  6. 01:10:768 - add note? too airly imo. Added
  7. 01:11:661 - ~~~ same. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9474630 Changed
  8. ,01:16:482 - same, add note? Added
    :?: hmm....01:19:518 - change to kat(*-2), 01:20:232 (23,24,25,26) - change to ddkk(*-1), 01:21:661 (27,28,29,30,31,32) - change to ddd-kkk(*-3?

    • *-101:20:232 (23,24,25,26) - d-d-k-k seems not well followed with chorus. d-k-d-k seems much better.
      *-2to avoid the same flow with 01:20:232 (23,24,25,26) - .
      *-3plays better imo like Kantan coloring.
    All applied
    :!: 01:24:518 - move to 1/1 left, similar as Kantan. Moved
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:03:625 - move to 00:04:875 - ? seems better to connect and use 1/1 plet. I wanna keep for a better gap with Oni following the vocal
  2. 00:15:768 - remove, to make a consistent with 00:49:518 (21,22,23,24) - Removed
  3. 00:38:268 - add don, 00:38:625 - add kat? like futusu,kantan suggestions. Added
[Oni]
  1. 00:26:482 (70,71) - consider to remove the greenline and 00:27:018 - change to x0.87 (1→0.87→0.75). It's early to deceleration. Really nice, changed
  2. Comapring with 00:44:518 - ~~ and 00:50:232 - ~~, its too far dense. Should add more from 00:50:232. I emphasizes the vocal, this 00:50:232 - is less dense than 00:44:518 - imo, but I added some notes 1/2
  3. 01:21:482 - seems to good to me to add kat for climax. Added
  4. 01:18:982 - consider to change to kat, to make a gap colors with 01:20:411 - . it plays and sounds better. Changed
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:12:197 - change to don, 00:14:339 - and 00:18:625 - change to kat? - to emphasized for piano.
  2. 00:12:464 (16,17) - dk, 00:18:804 (62,63,64) - ddk?
    • - bored dkddk, its not clear dkddk on 00:14:518 (31,32,33,34,35) - .
      - 00:18:804 - ~~ Its different from usual flow, it seems to use normal way.
  3. 00:26:482 (102,103) - same as Oni. should remove green and 00:27:018 - change to x0.87. Fixed
  4. 00:38:268 (54,55,56,57) - kdk-k seems better with plays imo lol. Changed the patterm
  5. 00:55:054 - change to k? seems better to make a different 00:55:054 (11,12) - k-d. Nice, changed
  6. 01:18:982 - consider to change to kat, same as Oni. Oke
Call me when you checked them(¦3[___] I need see some thing about spread and thumbnail :cry:
Thanks a lot for mod!
Beatmap updated~
Mir
Hi, I suppose there are some things I'm curious about (nothing serious)

Inner Tenshi
  1. 00:03:625 (2,3,4,5,6) - Hm, I was thinking kdkkd might fit more but that might change what you're going for. I just feel like it hits more of the prominent vocals there with the appropriate pitch.
  2. 00:07:018 (13,14) - Swapping these might give more to the vocals since the last one gets emphasized through rhythmic contrast?
  3. 00:07:911 (15,16) - Kinda same but if you swap this you get the k on the vocal which might be nice to cover since most of the vocals here are being followed with k (I think)
  4. 00:10:947 (4,5,6) - For this type of vocal I thought that kkd might fit better.
  5. 00:12:822 (20) - Maybe delete this so the pause in vocal on 00:12:732 - gets more emphasized?
  6. 00:14:518 (30) - This note has a pretty strong change on it also the melody thing gets very pronounced, it could work as k perhaps? Would also get more contrast from the previous note being d.
  7. 00:18:536 (60) - Could also delete this to have the two melody notes on 00:18:447 (59,61) - be more emphasized?
  8. 00:19:250 (67) - I think changing this to d would fit the repetition of the melody better than putting variation in it imo. Then if you want you can swap 00:19:964 (75,76) - as well to get the two drum hits on them? Would give 00:20:232 (77) - more emphasis through contrast I think?
  9. 00:27:197 - Mh, there's some drums here you could map but probably not necessary. Could easily ddk this if you wanted to.
  10. 00:33:893 (29) - To emphasize the vocal I would probably move this over to 00:33:714 - and make it a d since 00:33:804 - is quite emphasized in the song yet the map goes over it with a triple to emphasize 00:33:982 - instead which is considerably weaker.
  11. 00:35:411 (39) - Removing this might be nice to put more contrast on the 1/2 rhythm of 00:35:947 (41,42) - so instead of going from 1/2 gap to 1/1 gap to 1/2 gap again, you go from 1/1 gaps straight to 1/2 gaps. The strings in the song also emphasize those two areas 00:35:232 (38,40) -
  12. 00:37:197 (47) - I'd probably try to get the triple on 00:37:197 (47,48,49) - to end on 47 instead since you did a similar form of vocal/string emphasis on 00:37:911 (53,54,55) -
  13. 00:39:518 (63,65,66,67) - Considering 63 and 65 hit the vocals it might be nice to change 66 to d so that you get a kkdd arrangement which follows the pitch of the vocals better. It would also emphasize the downbeat and strings again on 00:40:232 (68).
  14. 00:45:143 - Maybe put something here considering you put something at 00:44:786 (7) - ? I think it would follow vocals again but I'm not sure what else you'd be following here (shows my inexperience really :o)
  15. 00:49:161 (42) - I would probably change this to D and 00:49:518 (43,44,45,46) - all to K or the other way around by changing 00:48:804 (41) - to K instead since the pitch clearly raises overall but this arrangement you have only emphasizes 00:49:161 (42) - which is only the middle part of the whole buildup.
  16. 00:54:072 (3,4) - Maybe swap these for the double-esque rhythm the vocals are producing here? You get a nice ddkkd rhythm here which imo fits better.
  17. 00:55:143 (13) - Maybe to separate the two vocalists and the two vocal phrases delete this note?
  18. 01:09:695 - This is a really strong beat here that gets ignored.. maybe D here and D 01:09:875 (19) - as well? Though.. after looking at this in play I'm not sure how well that would fit with the sv change. It might even be unrankable I don't know. 01:15:409 - Naturally here as well.
  19. 01:19:786 (52) - Would rather change to d to emphasize the last vocal more.
I think some of these things can be applied to other diffs as well like 00:49:161 - the stuff I said here but yeah x.x

Oni
  1. The bg of this diff doesn't cover all the way at the top for some reason, it has a black bar there with empty space. x.x
  2. 00:14:339 (22,23) - Would swap these to emphasize the stop more and the pitch increase too?
  3. 00:44:697 - Would add something here for the vocal?
  4. 00:45:322 (10) - Similarly to complement ^ I'd move this over to 00:45:143 - instead as well to emphasize the stronger vocal on 00:45:232.
  5. 00:53:803 (54,55,56) - Hmmm, the vocal density increases very much here but the density of the map sort of stagnates and not only that but it even lowers with nothing on 00:54:339 - where the song is consistently building up to the pre-chorus section. I recommend adding notes to fill in these spots maybe a quint for 00:53:803 (54,55,56) - ?
  6. 00:54:697 (58) - Could probably move this one tick back to the blue?
Actually I really liked the rhythm on this diff, it fit very nicely!

Muzu
  1. Oh lord, this bg has the same problem as Oni just even more black space xD
  2. 00:07:018 (10) - Could make this k for vocal pitch and to emphasize the pause on the next note.
  3. 00:20:589 (39) - STACK THIS NOTE PLS
  4. 00:26:125 (52,53) - Ctrl+G this sounds much nicer as it hits the stronger vocal and snare with k.
  5. 00:27:375 (56) - Wouldn't make this the same as the note previously since the vocalist changes + section changes so with the current arrangement I'd suggest d instead.
  6. 00:36:482 (27,28,29,30,31) - Hmm listening to this, dkkdd sounds a lot more fitting to the vocals here to me.
  7. 00:53:804 (37,38,39) - Would also probably kdk this instead since it leads in more appropriately from the last vocal phrase in terms of pitch?
  8. 01:20:232 (36,37,38) - The emphasis here is really nice but I feel like having 01:20:945 (39) - as k kind of ruins the same idea before which was to emphasize the last note of the pattern. Maybe changing 01:20:945 (39,40,41) - to kkd might give variation and the same idea as the first iteration?
Futsuu
  1. 00:26:304 (32,33,34,35) - Maybe changing this to dkkd would show the pitches a bit better?
This diff made a lot of sense so not many questions here.

Kantan
  1. BG again xd
  2. 00:49:875 - Maybe you can add a note here since the song spikes in intensity quite a lot but it's similar in density to 00:45:947 (2,3,4) - which was fairly calm in comparison.
Yep fine diff here too I think.

Also your Futsuu and Kantan update to the cursed set so uhhhh idk what to do about that :o

I hope some of it helped and even if it didn't I'll at least know what was useful and why others weren't. Good luck!
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Mir wrote:

Hi, I suppose there are some things I'm curious about (nothing serious)

Inner Tenshi
  1. 00:03:625 (2,3,4,5,6) - Hm, I was thinking kdkkd might fit more but that might change what you're going for. I just feel like it hits more of the prominent vocals there with the appropriate pitch. I tested with kdkkd but it didn't convince me, I was trying with other patterns and dkdkd would be fit better with the vocal I guess
  2. 00:07:018 (13,14) - Swapping these might give more to the vocals since the last one gets emphasized through rhythmic contrast? Yeah,
    that was fine
  3. 00:07:911 (15,16) - Kinda same but if you swap this you get the k on the vocal which might be nice to cover since most of the vocals here are being followed with k (I think) I'm following the violin in 00:08:089 (16) -, and if I swap those notes could break the consistency with 00:05:232 (9,14) -
  4. 00:10:947 (4,5,6) - For this type of vocal I thought that kkd might fit better. I wanna keep the drum kick in 00:10:947 -
  5. 00:12:822 (20) - Maybe delete this so the pause in vocal on 00:12:732 - gets more emphasized? Deleted, I made some similar to 00:15:054 (34,35,36,37,38,39,40) -
  6. 00:14:518 (30) - This note has a pretty strong change on it also the melody thing gets very pronounced, it could work as k perhaps? Would also get more contrast from the previous note being d. Yeah, you're right, changed
  7. 00:18:536 (60) - Could also delete this to have the two melody notes on 00:18:447 (59,61) - be more emphasized? I changed the pattern there, so I guess I accept this suggestion
  8. 00:19:250 (67) - I think changing this to d would fit the repetition of the melody better than putting variation in it imo. Then if you want you can swap 00:19:964 (75,76) - as well to get the two drum hits on them? Would give 00:20:232 (77) - more emphasis through contrast I think? From here 00:19:518 - I keep the patterns because I think fit good with the piano. After that I changed to kdkkddk for emphasizes 00:20:232 (74) - as you said
  9. 00:27:197 - Mh, there's some drums here you could map but probably not necessary. Could easily ddk this if you wanted to. I need add svs to change the velocity and it seems weird... I won't add it
  10. 00:33:893 (29) - To emphasize the vocal I would probably move this over to 00:33:714 - and make it a d since 00:33:804 - is quite emphasized in the song yet the map goes over it with a triple to emphasize 00:33:982 - instead which is considerably weaker. Nice point, applied
  11. 00:35:411 (39) - Removing this might be nice to put more contrast on the 1/2 rhythm of 00:35:947 (41,42) - so instead of going from 1/2 gap to 1/1 gap to 1/2 gap again, you go from 1/1 gaps straight to 1/2 gaps. The strings in the song also emphasize those two areas 00:35:232 (38,40) - Wow, I'm impressed because it didn't convince me the current patterns, so the breaks there could be fine :D
  12. 00:37:197 (47) - I'd probably try to get the triple on 00:37:197 (47,48,49) - to end on 47 instead since you did a similar form of vocal/string emphasis on 00:37:911 (53,54,55) - I changed all the pattern with some similar to 00:24:518 - for consistency
  13. 00:39:518 (63,65,66,67) - Considering 63 and 65 hit the vocals it might be nice to change 66 to d so that you get a kkdd arrangement which follows the pitch of the vocals better. It would also emphasize the downbeat and strings again on 00:40:232 (68). The vocal's pitch in 00:39:875 (64) - is high imo, too similar to 00:39:518 (61,63) - . With don in 00:40:054 (65) - is enought to emphasizes 00:40:232 (66) -
  14. 00:45:143 - Maybe put something here considering you put something at 00:44:786 (7) - ? I think it would follow vocals again but I'm not sure what else you'd be following here (shows my inexperience really :o) I'm following the vocal, but I consider move the triples in 00:44:875 - . (HOLY SR)
  15. 00:49:161 (42) - I would probably change this to D and 00:49:518 (43,44,45,46) - all to K or the other way around by changing 00:48:804 (41) - to K instead since the pitch clearly raises overall but this arrangement you have only emphasizes 00:49:161 (42) - which is only the middle part of the whole buildup. Yeah, it's too similar to 00:20:232 (74,75,76) - so I guess for consistency I'm going to change to D D KKKK
  16. 00:54:072 (3,4) - Maybe swap these for the double-esque rhythm the vocals are producing here? You get a nice ddkkd rhythm here which imo fits better. Applied
  17. 00:55:143 (13) - Maybe to separate the two vocalists and the two vocal phrases delete this note? Nah, I'm following the guitar also,
    so I'll keep it
  18. 01:09:695 - This is a really strong beat here that gets ignored.. maybe D here and D 01:09:875 (19) - as well? Though.. after looking at this in play I'm not sure how well that would fit with the sv change. It might even be unrankable I don't know. 01:15:409 - Naturally here as well. It doesn't matter imo, it could be ignored by the vocal with finisher. Overall in the kiai I'm following the vocal. Add notes there could be so hard since I need add svs changes to do it more playable
  19. 01:19:786 (52) - Would rather change to d to emphasize the last vocal more. Changed
I think some of these things can be applied to other diffs as well like 00:49:161 - the stuff I said here but yeah x.x Yeah, I'm going to consider it

Oni
  1. The bg of this diff doesn't cover all the way at the top for some reason, it has a black bar there with empty space. x.x Eeeh... it serves to change the BG position in the gameplay. I did change some values in the .osu to make it
  2. 00:14:339 (22,23) - Would swap these to emphasize the stop more and the pitch increase too? Applied
  3. 00:44:697 - Would add something here for the vocal? I changed the patterns to do more consistent with Inner
  4. 00:45:322 (10) - Similarly to complement ^ I'd move this over to 00:45:143 - instead as well to emphasize the stronger vocal on 00:45:232. The current pattern fit good with the vocal imo.
  5. 00:53:803 (54,55,56) - Hmmm, the vocal density increases very much here but the density of the map sort of stagnates and not only that but it even lowers with nothing on 00:54:339 - where the song is consistently building up to the pre-chorus section. I recommend adding notes to fill in these spots maybe a quint for 00:53:803 (54,55,56) - ? I added notes and the 5plet
  6. 00:54:697 (58) - Could probably move this one tick back to the blue? Fit sooo good with the vocal, for now I'll add, but i need see how goes the spread with Muzukashii
Actually I really liked the rhythm on this diff, it fit very nicely! Thanks!

Muzu
  1. Oh lord, this bg has the same problem as Oni just even more black space xD Same as Oni lol
  2. 00:07:018 (10) - Could make this k for vocal pitch and to emphasize the pause on the next note. I did change it like Oni
  3. 00:20:589 (39) - STACK THIS NOTE PLS Fixed lol
  4. 00:26:125 (52,53) - Ctrl+G this sounds much nicer as it hits the stronger vocal and snare with k. I changed both with kat
  5. 00:27:375 (56) - Wouldn't make this the same as the note previously since the vocalist changes + section changes so with the current arrangement I'd suggest d instead. How I explain it... kat=angel don=demon. So when the vocal sing, I start with depending on who is singing (in that case is Raphiel = Angel, the part start with kat)
  6. 00:36:482 (27,28,29,30,31) - Hmm listening to this, dkkdd sounds a lot more fitting to the vocals here to me. Changed to dkddk, fit better imo
  7. 00:53:804 (37,38,39) - Would also probably kdk this instead since it leads in more appropriately from the last vocal phrase in terms of pitch? Changed to kdk
  8. 01:20:232 (36,37,38) - The emphasis here is really nice but I feel like having 01:20:945 (39) - as k kind of ruins the same idea before which was to emphasize the last note of the pattern. Maybe changing 01:20:945 (39,40,41) - to kkd might give variation and the same idea as the first iteration? Yeah, you're right, changed
Futsuu
  1. 00:26:304 (32,33,34,35) - Maybe changing this to dkkd would show the pitches a bit better? I wanna keep the consistency with Muzukashii
This diff made a lot of sense so not many questions here.

Kantan
  1. BG again xd ^
  2. 00:49:875 - Maybe you can add a note here since the song spikes in intensity quite a lot but it's similar in density to 00:45:947 (2,3,4) - which was fairly calm in comparison. It break with the gap in Futsuu, anyways I added it in Futsuu (and changed some patterns)
Yep fine diff here too I think.

Also your Futsuu and Kantan update to the cursed set so uhhhh idk what to do about that :o

I hope some of it helped and even if it didn't I'll at least know what was useful and why others weren't. Good luck! Wow dude, you're so good in taiko modding. When taiko BN? :^)
In a few days I'm going to mod your map, will be the first time that I going mod in modding v2 lol
Really thanks for mod! It helped a lot :D
Beatmap updated~
Alwaysyukaz
Hi!
very late modding request incoming~ :'((((

[General]

Check your AiMod in Kantan,Futsuu,and Inner Tenshi. there's a problem with snap and timing point

[Kantan]

00:20:947 (13) - It should be in finisher don when I compared with 00:20:232 -

00:57:911 - how about place this note in white tick? because it's really hard for beginner players to hit it even it's not in right place

00:58:804 - until 01:02:018 - change to Finisher kat. you're make finisher kat in all diff except this one

[Futsuu]

00:26:304 (32,33,34,35) - how about to change the pattern to dkkd since i hear the "tak tak" sounds *lol tak tak sounds XD in 00:26:661 (33,34) -

00:57:375 (28,29) - it should be in finisher since the sounds is pretty loud

01:16:481 (12,13) - ctrl + G the sounds of the vocal seems opposite


[Muzukashii]

00:38:625 - add note here,just only make 1/2 triplet seems boring XD

00:57:911 - remove the finisher,I don't think its really needed here


I think only that and all diff seems ready to bubble" XD pls get ranked this so I can gain moar pp
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Alwaysyukaz wrote:

Hi!
very late modding request incoming~ :'(((( No problem, never is late ^^

[General]

Check your AiMod in Kantan,Futsuu,and Inner Tenshi. there's a problem with snap and timing point Loool, I forgot this, thanks xD

[Kantan]

00:20:947 (13) - It should be in finisher don when I compared with 00:20:232 - I wanna keep the consistency with 00:48:804 (6,7) - , has the same pitch imo

00:57:911 - how about place this note in white tick? because it's really hard for beginner players to hit it even it's not in right place Naah,
isn't so hard for play, also there are break before it


00:58:804 - until 01:02:018 - change to Finisher kat. you're make finisher kat in all diff except this one Changed

[Futsuu]

00:26:304 (32,33,34,35) - how about to change the pattern to dkkd since i hear the "tak tak" sounds *lol tak tak sounds XD in 00:26:661 (33,34) - I changed to dkdk, I wanna keep the kat in the final because Raphiel (tenshi=blue) begin to sing :^)

00:57:375 (28,29) - it should be in finisher since the sounds is pretty loud Nah, I added these finisher in Muzu diff

01:16:481 (12,13) - ctrl + G the sounds of the vocal seems opposite Fixed


[Muzukashii]

00:38:625 - add note here,just only make 1/2 triplet seems boring XD Added

00:57:911 - remove the finisher,I don't think its really needed here I listen very loud the pitch and the vocal


I think only that and all diff seems ready to bubble" XD pls get ranked this so I can gain moar pp
Thanks for mod!
Beatmap updated~
Volta
Hello, here's the mod as requested.

[Kantan]
00:03:090 - maybe change to k like you did in every other diffs?

00:53:804 - how about add d,
00:55:589 - move this note to 00:54:875 - ,
00:54:518 - and change to k
think this would built the tension in a way better

[Futsuu]
00:18:447 - consider to move to 00:19:875 - and change it to k
00:18:804 - change to d
00:14:875 - and add d
this way would make the structure more consistent and solid imo

00:25:589 (31,32) - maybe change to kd for the invert of 00:31:304 (5,6) - and consistency with higher diffs?
00:26:304 (33,34,35,36) - how about change to kddk to make it contrast with what you did at 00:32:018 (7,8,9,10,11) - ?

00:34:875 - consider to add d to closer the spread? Muzukashii consists of many 1/2 and the futsuu is too sparse
00:40:589 - add k and 00:40:947 - change to d for consistency in the structure if you apply ^

00:49:875 - move to 00:49:161 - and change to D?
00:50:589 - and add k here for consistency with 00:44:875 -

00:54:161 - how about add d here,
00:54:518 - change to k
00:55:411 - move to 00:55:054 - and change to k
i think the flow will be more fluid this way

[Muzukashii]
HP 6 for better HP curve?

00:17:197 - add k and 00:19:339 - remove to make them coherent with 00:11:572 - and 00:13:625 - ?

00:44:518 ~ 00:55:947 - considering the spread with Futsuu, nerfing this session would be nice, removing some notes such as 00:45:054 - , 00:45:768 - , 00:47:197 - , 00:47:911 - , 00:48:625 - is a good option.

[Oni]
OD 5.5 ?

[Inner Oni]
Remove the "?!?" in the diffname? sounds confusing. Or just "Tenshi" looks better to me.

01:09:161 - suggesting to change the green line to 1.3x so it would be less obstructing the vision of next note.
01:18:268 (43,44,45) - , 01:19:697 (53,54,55) - i think SV in these notes are not necessary. It looks better to me if you speed up in every downbeat only.

01:10:411 - how about add k and 01:10:679 - add d to make it more flowing?
01:16:125 - , 01:16:393 - same as^


You may call me back after that~
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Volta wrote:

Hello, here's the mod as requested.

[Kantan]
00:03:090 - maybe change to k like you did in every other diffs? Changed

00:53:804 - how about add d, Added
00:55:589 - move this note to 00:54:875 - , Moved
00:54:518 - and change to k Oke
think this would built the tension in a way better Looks good!

[Futsuu]
00:18:447 - consider to move to 00:19:875 - and change it to k Applied
00:18:804 - change to d Ok
00:14:875 - and add d Added
this way would make the structure more consistent and solid imo Yeah, you're right!

00:25:589 (31,32) - maybe change to kd for the invert of 00:31:304 (5,6) - and consistency with higher diffs? That's right, changed
00:26:304 (33,34,35,36) - how about change to kddk to make it contrast with what you did at 00:32:018 (7,8,9,10,11) - ? Yeah, applied

00:34:875 - consider to add d to closer the spread? Muzukashii consists of many 1/2 and the futsuu is too sparse Yes, look good
00:40:589 - add k and 00:40:947 - change to d for consistency in the structure if you apply ^ All applied

00:49:875 - move to 00:49:161 - and change to D? Fixed
00:50:589 - and add k here for consistency with 00:44:875 - Added

00:54:161 - how about add d here,
00:54:518 - change to k
00:55:411 - move to 00:55:054 - and change to k
i think the flow will be more fluid this way Really good pattern, applied

[Muzukashii]
HP 6 for better HP curve? Oke

00:17:197 - add k and 00:19:339 - remove to make them coherent with 00:11:572 - and 00:13:625 - ? That's trueee lool, applied

00:44:518 ~ 00:55:947 - considering the spread with Futsuu, nerfing this session would be nice, removing some notes such as 00:45:054 - , 00:45:768 - , 00:47:197 - , 00:47:911 - , 00:48:625 - is a good option. I removed that's notes and making other pattern (I think it's good)

[Oni]
OD 5.5 ? Yeah

[Inner Oni]
Remove the "?!?" in the diffname? sounds confusing. Or just "Tenshi" looks better to me. Removed "?!?". The name "Tenshi" has already the STD mapset

01:09:161 - suggesting to change the green line to 1.3x so it would be less obstructing the vision of next note. Fixed
01:18:268 (43,44,45) - , 01:19:697 (53,54,55) - i think SV in these notes are not necessary. It looks better to me if you speed up in every downbeat only. Ok, I changed the SVs

01:10:411 - how about add k and 01:10:679 - add d to make it more flowing?
01:16:125 - , 01:16:393 - same as^ Added both


You may call me back after that~
Thanks so much!
All updated~
Volta
Looks fine.

Bubbled!
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Volta wrote:

Looks fine.

Bubbled!
Thank you very much! ❤
Skylish
From my modding queue, sorry for being late since my workload irl becomes huge again ;w;

[General]

> 00:05:947 - consistent k, comparing with Inner Tenshi. The high pitch starting of a bar is very clear.

> 01:23:089 - every note in this section should be consistent. imo d k d k k d k d k would be the optimum follow of vocal pitch. 01:24:160 - / 01:24:517 - 'te' 'n' are across two notes, hence being mapped as k.

[Inner Tenshi]

> 00:15:232 (34,35,37) - isolated k k k would be better to reflect the music, shift 00:15:500 - to 00:15:679 - for a better flow.

> 00:27:018 - keeping it 1.0x (i.e. remove this green timing point) for showing a complete strong vocal tone

> 00:31:750 - add a don to link up the density slope to 00:32:375 -

> 00:34:339 - d for a better flow. 00:34:161 - + 00:34:339 - should be different from 00:35:054 - + 00:35:232 -

> 00:36:482 - / 00:36:661 - ctrl+G for vocal pitch and consistent drum kick= k

> 01:20:946 - / 01:21:661 - 1.20x and 1.25x can be tolerated respectively, a gradual increase of 0.05x SV is a great attempt.

[Oni]

> 00:12:018 - the density drops slightly here, re-add notes at 00:12:197 - / 00:12:643 - to balance it

> 00:19:607 - change it to k, to show a coherence with 00:15:232 -

> 00:27:018 - / 00:34:339 - same as Inner Tenshi

> 00:36:482 - / 00:36:661 - ^

> 00:38:000 - add a k to for a 1/4 triplet to reduce spamming of 1/2 (that's a bit boring in a stronger vocal tone after 00:33:089 - )

> 01:18:982 - remove this note to for a nn pattern at 01:19:072 - , similar to 01:17:643 - .

> 01:19:072 - dk for variant

> 01:20:232 - / 01:20:947 - same principle of 00:38:000 - , make 1/4 kkd at the mentioned timing to reduce bore.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:38:089 - change it to k to for a mirror pattern with 00:36:482 -

! 00:44:518 - The density spread between Muzukashii and Oni in this section is very huge as of the absence of 1/4 triplet in Muzukashii. At least usage of 5 x 1/2 notes is expected, with suitable supplement of 1/4 triplets. Re-map a bit here.

> 01:19:161 - d could be added here to complete vocal mapping channel, optional

> 01:22:375 - a complete repetition of 01:21:661 - is fine, and smoother too.

[Kantan]

> 00:33:804 - / 00:39:518 - add notes here as the instrumental part join the music back, much more than 00:22:375 - / 00:28:089 -

> 00:50:232 - similar as above, imo this part could be denser by adding more notes in 1/1 snap. 00:50:232 - d d k k d d kdk D. The density spread between Kantan and Futsuu should be well taken care of.

> 01:20:947 - common vocal d with 01:20:232 -

> 01:24:517 - shift it to 01:24:874 - since 'n' is not a strong ascent. Re-arrange the colour in the last part according to my mod in part General.

[]

Call me back when things are settled down.
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Skylish wrote:

From my modding queue, sorry for being late since my workload irl becomes huge again ;w;

[General]

> 00:05:947 - consistent k, comparing with Inner Tenshi. The high pitch starting of a bar is very clear.

> 01:23:089 - every note in this section should be consistent. imo d k d k k d k d k would be the optimum follow of vocal pitch. 01:24:160 - / 01:24:517 - 'te' 'n' are across two notes, hence being mapped as k.

[Inner Tenshi]

> 00:15:232 (34,35,37) - isolated k k k would be better to reflect the music, shift 00:15:500 - to 00:15:679 - for a better flow.

> 00:27:018 - keeping it 1.0x (i.e. remove this green timing point) for showing a complete strong vocal tone

> 00:31:750 - add a don to link up the density slope to 00:32:375 -

> 00:34:339 - d for a better flow. 00:34:161 - + 00:34:339 - should be different from 00:35:054 - + 00:35:232 -

> 00:36:482 - / 00:36:661 - ctrl+G for vocal pitch and consistent drum kick= k

> 01:20:946 - / 01:21:661 - 1.20x and 1.25x can be tolerated respectively, a gradual increase of 0.05x SV is a great attempt.

[Oni]

> 00:12:018 - the density drops slightly here, re-add notes at 00:12:197 - / 00:12:643 - to balance it

> 00:19:607 - change it to k, to show a coherence with 00:15:232 -

> 00:27:018 - / 00:34:339 - same as Inner Tenshi

> 00:36:482 - / 00:36:661 - ^

> 00:38:000 - add a k to for a 1/4 triplet to reduce spamming of 1/2 (that's a bit boring in a stronger vocal tone after 00:33:089 - )

> 01:18:982 - remove this note to for a nn pattern at 01:19:072 - , similar to 01:17:643 - .

> 01:19:072 - dk for variant

> 01:20:232 - / 01:20:947 - same principle of 00:38:000 - , make 1/4 kkd at the mentioned timing to reduce bore.

[Muzukashii]

> 00:38:089 - change it to k to for a mirror pattern with 00:36:482 -

! 00:44:518 - The density spread between Muzukashii and Oni in this section is very huge as of the absence of 1/4 triplet in Muzukashii. At least usage of 5 x 1/2 notes is expected, with suitable supplement of 1/4 triplets. Re-map a bit here.

> 01:19:161 - d could be added here to complete vocal mapping channel, optional

> 01:22:375 - a complete repetition of 01:21:661 - is fine, and smoother too.

[Kantan]

> 00:33:804 - / 00:39:518 - add notes here as the instrumental part join the music back, much more than 00:22:375 - / 00:28:089 -

> 00:50:232 - similar as above, imo this part could be denser by adding more notes in 1/1 snap. 00:50:232 - d d k k d d kdk D. The density spread between Kantan and Futsuu should be well taken care of.

> 01:20:947 - common vocal d with 01:20:232 -

> 01:24:517 - shift it to 01:24:874 - since 'n' is not a strong ascent. Re-arrange the colour in the last part according to my mod in part General.

[]

Call me back when things are settled down.
I applied almost all, except the SV change in 00:27:018 - (Tenshi and Oni). If I remove that, could be make overlap to 00:27:375 (102) - , also I wanna keep the perfection...? I hope you understand it

Sorry for don't make a reply more understandable, because I don't have internet and it's my basic english :p
Thank you very much for check!
Beatmap updated~
Skylish
Re-check here, sorry to pop the map officially here, due to new enacted timing rules:

[Timing]

Old and not-so-correct suggestion
> 00:58:804 - / 01:00:411 - / 01:02:018 - They are in 9/8 time signature. Although the current setting of using BPM=168 with 5/4 time signature with barline omittion can create the same effect, please follow the current rules ;w;.

So we are now using BPM 168/1.5=112 with 3/4 waltz time signature to represent BPM=168 in 9/8.

> 01:03:446 - the instrumental layer goes back to 3/4 in BPM=168, so a new timing point is required

! Essential timing points:
3090,357.142857142857,4,1,0,80,1,0
58804,535.714285714286,3,1,0,80,1,0
58804,-66.6666666666667,3,1,0,80,0,0
63446,357.142857142857,3,1,0,80,1,0
64518,357.142857142857,4,1,0,80,1,0
65947,357.142857142857,4,1,0,90,1,1
83089,357.142857142857,3,1,0,80,1,0

!EDIT! Here's the correct suggestion with sources support: (Sections marked with a Red Star refers to 00:58:804 - )

(source: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1rm6a8dtklhbe ... t.pdf?dl=0)

https://puu.sh/zzqID/439f169804.jpg (source: https://youtu.be/MCSuXfSDfU4?t=1m2s)

(source: https://youtu.be/CQJGZPMwnhc?t=1m6s)

These three Doujin music score sheet does not use 9/8 (whatsoever the music is meant to do it according to general musical theory). Now, let's remove unnecessary timing points.

Only 00:03:090 - and 01:23:089 - these 2 red timing point are needed, the rest could be all deleted. 01:05:947 - falls on the 45th bar (i.e. in osu editor 44:0), NC works well.

> 01:21:304 - kkd here as well? If you think 01:21:304 - kkd 01:21:661 - kdddk is too difficulty for Oni, the current one is fine.

[Kantan+Futsuu]

> 01:23:089 - check the note consistency with other difficulties of this final vocal section. Refer to my previous note at part General

[]
A small Timing fine-tune is needed. Call me back again when you have the Internet and your mapset is ready. (please give kds to my previous post ;w;)
frukoyurdakul
Gonna take a quick note here, while your timing seems accurate and aligns with the vocals perfectly I have a wrong feeling about this. I'd totally approve it but on a simple song like that I wouldn't expect such a huge change. After I did some calculation, I realized that 00:58:804 ~ 01:04:518 - between these spots there are exactly 16 beats (in 168 BPM) and considering the next measure as a build-up I guess one timing point until 01:23:089 - this spot is enough, which means covering the section as 4/4 only. I'm gonna ask for more opinions but in the meantime suspending this beatmap will be better to prevent any denominations in the future. Once it's corrected I'm gonna edit this post.

Edit: Timing seems better now.
hikiko-
just passing by with an opinion
changing 168bpm 1/2s to 112bpm 1/3s is a very roundabout way of doing the timing and almost definitely incorrect
like fruko said, the part from 00:58:804 - to 01:04:518 - aligns perfectly four bars of 168, so you could just delete all the extra redlines in that section. 01:05:947 - should be kept though as a metronome reset

this is a thoroughly captivating song whose timing isn't convoluted at all
i love anime.

edit: skylish told me to post my take on it here
so once you remove all the extraneous stuff it turns out you actually need a couple met resets to make things work
so just to make things clear: the redlines you'll need are 00:03:090 - , 00:10:232 - (reset), 00:58:804 - (another reset, make sure you change the time signature to 4/4 instead of 5/4), 01:05:947 - (reset), 01:23:089 - (3/4 waltz stuff that you already have)
coolio
Skylish
Refined timing suggestion at p/6521764, thanks for the suggestion from hikiko and fruko.

Although the music is meant to be 9/8, I cannot find any supportive music score sheet to support it. The current sources I found suggest a constant 4/4 section until 01:23:089 - . In our concept, the NC works well in the latest suggestion so I think that'd be a compromised timing amendment.
Bonsai
Agreeing that this should just be left as 4/4, but since you mentioned

Skylish wrote:

01:05:947 - falls on the 45th bar (i.e. in osu editor 44:0), NC works well.
- If the mapper cares about the NC-effects, they should use all of the red lines Hikikochan mentioned, just because NC aligns with the last few sections doesn't nullify that it's off for the rest of the song lol

SPOILER

hikikochan wrote:

just passing by with an opinion
(...)
i love anime.
Lince Cosmico
It would be easier for the mapper if you guys do a single post resuming all the changes he needs to do, since it's for timing, I don't think he'll disagree to them
DeletedUser_1981781
I think it's been already discussed that metronome reset is the best choice in these cases.
Why would you compromise map readability letting barlines appear in those not intuitive places...

Random scores generated out of midi files by random Youtubers are not a reliable source, anything that's not the official score is not a reliable source. (no offense)
It would be a good note for BNs to remember that they shouldn't be ashamed of asking the QAT if they are struggling with timing issues.
Only thing that is needed to be changed is this timing point 01:05:946 to inherited point.
DeletedUser_1981781
Hello? Anyone here? :o

Don't let this map die ;_;

I think the matter is just to resolve it in a way that it doesn't compromise readability with barlines...
At first I want to explain that this section is not actually that kind of 3+3+3 9/8 but it is actually an amalgam measure 4+5 with syncopation rhythm (it is actually 4+4+1) while you can express it as regular 4/4, you should look for a way that barlines don't appear in that section. (resets+ommit first barline or 16/4 measure editing by notepad?)

I guess it's up to Skylish to decide which way to fix that so this map gets back to its way to ranking. ( I hope it will be soon :^) )
Lince Cosmico

ARGENTINE DREAM wrote:

Hello? Anyone here? :o

Don't let this map die ;_;

I think the matter is just to resolve it in a way that it doesn't compromise readability with barlines...
At first I want to explain that this section is not actually that kind of 3+3+3 9/8 but it is actually an amalgam measure 4+5 with syncopation rhythm (it is actually 4+4+1) while you can express it as regular 4/4, you should look for a way that barlines don't appear in that section. (resets+ommit first barline or 16/4 measure editing by notepad?)

I guess it's up to Skylish to decide which way to fix that so this map gets back to its way to ranking. ( I hope it will be soon :^) )

gaston doesn't have internet for a while as far as I know, but it wont die, he's really decided on ranking this
Topic Starter
gaston_2199
I am vacation this time and I can't check it very thorough. I'm going to back the next week :x
Topic Starter
gaston_2199
Well, I came back from my holidays (a week ago, lul) and after thinking about it I applied the changes.
The suggestion of hikiko was very successful because when using it with NC it works well.
I also applied the skylish suggestions at the beginning, so I think this is ready for the ranking 🤔

Beatmap updated~
Skylish
Re-check, and welcome back from your wonderful journey

[General]

! I see unsnapped notes like, Oni: 00:24:517 - . Please use 'Resnap all notes' this function in every difficulty.

> 01:26:303 - Constant kat for consistency

[Oni]

> 00:17:017 - constant kat

[]

Minor stuff, fix them soon please ;w;
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Skylish wrote:

Re-check, and welcome back from your wonderful journey

[General]

! I see unsnapped notes like, Oni: 00:24:517 - . Please use 'Resnap all notes' this function in every difficulty.

> 01:26:303 - Constant kat for consistency

[Oni]

> 00:17:017 - constant kat

[]

Minor stuff, fix them soon please ;w;
All fixed
Beatmap updated~
Skylish
Bubbled~!

To next Nominator and gaston: Please review and comment on whether the break time should be consistent, from 00:41:660 - to 00:44:071 - . This is a minor issue and does not really do much with the map. If gaston wants to fix it, ask the next nominator to help you.
Volta
Qualified~
Topic Starter
gaston_2199
Finally :D!
Thanks so much for all ❤

1 year later lul
NightcoreCC
I love
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