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hi, as requested in my queue
(I cant play that diff properly btw)
WOLF'S MAXIMUM
00:02:705 (6) - maybe this note should be at 336/8 to complete the reversed triangle 00:01:641 (1,2,3) - like this? since this map is heavy based on patterns i guess that suggestion makes sense
00:05:125 - this unmapped sound kinda triggers me since its a top diff, it could be a slider end
00:06:092 (3) - I think here you can put an NC to indicate a new pattern section
00:07:834 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - my personal preference, I dont think that you did a right thing patterning-wise. 00:07:834 (1,3,5,7,9,11) - its can be a hexagon, since there are note+slider repeating 6 times. but you did triangle 00:08:609 (5,7,9) - instead, i believe your argument would be "hey there are a different sound measure 00:09:673 (10,11) - at this, so i broke the pattern for this" ehhh well kinda yea, but its still a one combo. idk.
00:10:931 (1,4,7,10) - nc on each one of them? also 00:11:060 (2,5,8,11) - isnt lined up properly, you can polish this pattern more.
00:15:576 (6) - make it curving to the bot? 00:15:383 (4,5) - this triplet kinda suggests to keep the curve going to the bot
00:15:576 (6) - also might want to put an NC here
00:17:415 (6,7,8,9) - make this stream curved in Bezier? it feels underwhelming for me, these doubles eh
00:57:466 (3) - put this slider on 314/224 to make a triangle with 00:56:988 (8,1) - ? for now it feels out of place cuz of overlap which you tried to avoid in this map
01:03:602 (3,4,5,6,1) - idk how it plays but feels really weird, can u differentiate 01:03:602 (3,1) - these a bit more?
01:11:784 (1,2) - these could be a small sliders 1/8s? since these are kinda unique
01:20:102 (3) - if you put this on 01:20:239 (4) - and move the rest of the notes to the next position you could make a full hexagon here.
01:26:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - considering your hitsounding I cant really tell its a good pattern for such music phrase. these doubles are so strong, but you kinda undermapped this part. Oh actually they are strong because of hitsounds, the music is way different, I think you should reconsider the entire pattern here, its just reflecting the song wrongly.
01:27:602 (1) - Same here, the pattern I imagine is something like back and forth jumps, the music suggests it:
01:29:239 (1,2) - on a such intense part you could make the distance between them bigger
01:34:148 (1,2,3) - I believe you can make a proper triangle here
01:42:602 (1,2) - I think these two might be a one 1/2 slider, since 01:42:739 - sound is not prominent and you can use it to change the flow what you did
01:49:420 - in this part these claps are really annoying, can you reconsider hitsounds
In regards of hitsounds I could write some paragraphs as well but... uh you better contact someone more experienced, cuz I think the hitsounding here is at least questionable.
(I cant play that diff properly btw)
WOLF'S MAXIMUM
00:02:705 (6) - maybe this note should be at 336/8 to complete the reversed triangle 00:01:641 (1,2,3) - like this? since this map is heavy based on patterns i guess that suggestion makes sense
00:05:125 - this unmapped sound kinda triggers me since its a top diff, it could be a slider end
00:06:092 (3) - I think here you can put an NC to indicate a new pattern section
00:07:834 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - my personal preference, I dont think that you did a right thing patterning-wise. 00:07:834 (1,3,5,7,9,11) - its can be a hexagon, since there are note+slider repeating 6 times. but you did triangle 00:08:609 (5,7,9) - instead, i believe your argument would be "hey there are a different sound measure 00:09:673 (10,11) - at this, so i broke the pattern for this" ehhh well kinda yea, but its still a one combo. idk.
00:10:931 (1,4,7,10) - nc on each one of them? also 00:11:060 (2,5,8,11) - isnt lined up properly, you can polish this pattern more.
00:15:576 (6) - make it curving to the bot? 00:15:383 (4,5) - this triplet kinda suggests to keep the curve going to the bot
00:15:576 (6) - also might want to put an NC here
00:17:415 (6,7,8,9) - make this stream curved in Bezier? it feels underwhelming for me, these doubles eh
00:57:466 (3) - put this slider on 314/224 to make a triangle with 00:56:988 (8,1) - ? for now it feels out of place cuz of overlap which you tried to avoid in this map
01:03:602 (3,4,5,6,1) - idk how it plays but feels really weird, can u differentiate 01:03:602 (3,1) - these a bit more?
01:11:784 (1,2) - these could be a small sliders 1/8s? since these are kinda unique
01:20:102 (3) - if you put this on 01:20:239 (4) - and move the rest of the notes to the next position you could make a full hexagon here.
01:26:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - considering your hitsounding I cant really tell its a good pattern for such music phrase. these doubles are so strong, but you kinda undermapped this part. Oh actually they are strong because of hitsounds, the music is way different, I think you should reconsider the entire pattern here, its just reflecting the song wrongly.
01:27:602 (1) - Same here, the pattern I imagine is something like back and forth jumps, the music suggests it:
01:29:239 (1,2) - on a such intense part you could make the distance between them bigger
01:34:148 (1,2,3) - I believe you can make a proper triangle here
01:42:602 (1,2) - I think these two might be a one 1/2 slider, since 01:42:739 - sound is not prominent and you can use it to change the flow what you did
01:49:420 - in this part these claps are really annoying, can you reconsider hitsounds
In regards of hitsounds I could write some paragraphs as well but... uh you better contact someone more experienced, cuz I think the hitsounding here is at least questionable.
hi-mei wrote:
hi, as requested in my queue
(I cant play that diff properly btw)
WOLF'S MAXIMUM
00:02:705 (6) - maybe this note should be at 336/8 to complete the reversed triangle 00:01:641 (1,2,3) - like this? since this map is heavy based on patterns i guess that suggestion makes sense not all triangles have to be equilateral
00:05:125 - this unmapped sound kinda triggers me since its a top diff, it could be a slider end already covered this multiple times, reasons didn't change, see previous mods
00:06:092 (3) - I think here you can put an NC to indicate a new pattern section sure
00:07:834 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - my personal preference, I dont think that you did a right thing patterning-wise. 00:07:834 (1,3,5,7,9,11) - its can be a hexagon, since there are note+slider repeating 6 times. but you did triangle 00:08:609 (5,7,9) - instead, i believe your argument would be "hey there are a different sound measure 00:09:673 (10,11) - at this, so i broke the pattern for this" ehhh well kinda yea, but its still a one combo. idk. actually no, the goal here is to slightly increasing the spacing and pressure following the build up in the song
00:10:931 (1,4,7,10) - nc on each one of them? also 00:11:060 (2,5,8,11) - isnt lined up properly, you can polish this pattern more. fixed the misalignement
00:15:576 (6) - make it curving to the bot? 00:15:383 (4,5) - this triplet kinda suggests to keep the curve going to the bot no because the overal form is a wave
00:15:576 (6) - also might want to put an NC here unnecessary, changes in spacing/intensity doesn't warrant it
00:17:415 (6,7,8,9) - make this stream curved in Bezier? it feels underwhelming for me, these doubles eh song divides this quint in groups of 2
00:57:466 (3) - put this slider on 314/224 to make a triangle with 00:56:988 (8,1) - ? for now it feels out of place cuz of overlap which you tried to avoid in this map but it's blanketing 00:57:057 (1) - and also follows the stream path, I didn't try to avoid the overlap here
01:03:602 (3,4,5,6,1) - idk how it plays but feels really weird, can u differentiate 01:03:602 (3,1) - these a bit more? I'm not really sure what's that supposed to mean
01:11:784 (1,2) - these could be a small sliders 1/8s? since these are kinda unique I don't hear any 1/8 in the song here, and I haven't used that anywhere in the map either so that would be really out of place
01:20:102 (3) - if you put this on 01:20:239 (4) - and move the rest of the notes to the next position you could make a full hexagon here. I'm trying to make one, that would also stress this 01:20:648 (7,1) - jump too much for the amount of pressure I want here aswell
01:26:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - considering your hitsounding I cant really tell its a good pattern for such music phrase. these doubles are so strong, but you kinda undermapped this part. Oh actually they are strong because of hitsounds, the music is way different, I think you should reconsider the entire pattern here, its just reflecting the song wrongly. I did already make this pattern less intense to match the song better, although the additive hitsounding may help focusing on the pattern's doubles better, ultimately I'm mapping the synth that dominates the chorus, and not the backing instruments such as the drums here.
01:27:602 (1) - Same here, the pattern I imagine is something like back and forth jumps, the music suggests it: And while it is nice you have your own view on what this pattern should be, so do I.
01:29:239 (1,2) - on a such intense part you could make the distance between them bigger sure
01:34:148 (1,2,3) - I believe you can make a proper triangle here sure
01:42:602 (1,2) - I think these two might be a one 1/2 slider, since 01:42:739 - sound is not prominent and you can use it to change the flow what you did that would completely break the whole consistency I had going on since the buildup preceding the chorus though? not sure why this one in particular should be any different
01:49:420 - in this part these claps are really annoying, can you reconsider hitsounds and yet these are actually in the song
In regards of hitsounds I could write some paragraphs as well but... uh you better contact someone more experienced, cuz I think the hitsounding here is at least questionable. I'm fine thanks!
wolf
00:13:157 (1,1) - remove the nc on the blue tick or add one at 00:13:060 (5) - . atm this is really confusing since nc normally signals a snapping change of some sort coming out of a stack.
00:21:963 - add triples here? it seem weird undermapped
01:01:284 (4,1,2,3) - imo buff this 123, 1 has an absolute shit ton of emphasis since there's a stack right before it but 2 and 3 feel very underspaced relative to how much emphasis there is on 1. and the song is suggesting 3 somewhat equal sounds, so having that discrepancy is subpar
01:34:148 (1,2,3) - this rhythm seems supremely awkward since there's a clap on the slider end and a click on a purple line. how about 01:34:148 (1) - repeat followed by another one on the white tick then a circle at 01:34:693 - instead.
simplifying ending 1/3 into sliders is still lame, this is a 7 star extra plz -_-
00:13:157 (1,1) - remove the nc on the blue tick or add one at 00:13:060 (5) - . atm this is really confusing since nc normally signals a snapping change of some sort coming out of a stack.
00:21:963 - add triples here? it seem weird undermapped
01:01:284 (4,1,2,3) - imo buff this 123, 1 has an absolute shit ton of emphasis since there's a stack right before it but 2 and 3 feel very underspaced relative to how much emphasis there is on 1. and the song is suggesting 3 somewhat equal sounds, so having that discrepancy is subpar
01:34:148 (1,2,3) - this rhythm seems supremely awkward since there's a clap on the slider end and a click on a purple line. how about 01:34:148 (1) - repeat followed by another one on the white tick then a circle at 01:34:693 - instead.
simplifying ending 1/3 into sliders is still lame, this is a 7 star extra plz -_-
Naotoshi wrote:
wolf
00:13:157 (1,1) - remove the nc on the blue tick or add one at 00:13:060 (5) - . atm this is really confusing since nc normally signals a snapping change of some sort coming out of a stack.2nd
00:21:963 - add triples here? it seem weird undermapped I don't hear any piano notes outside the white ticks
01:01:284 (4,1,2,3) - imo buff this 123, 1 has an absolute shit ton of emphasis since there's a stack right before it but 2 and 3 feel very underspaced relative to how much emphasis there is on 1. and the song is suggesting 3 somewhat equal sounds, so having that discrepancy is subpar a buff? aye aye
01:34:148 (1,2,3) - this rhythm seems supremely awkward since there's a clap on the slider end and a click on a purple line. how about 01:34:148 (1) - repeat followed by another one on the white tick then a circle at 01:34:693 - instead.
simplifying ending 1/3 into sliders is still lame, this is a 7 star extra plz -_- oh so you don't want me to use sliders for 1/3 alrIGHT THEn
reblub
topdiff -
01:03:602 (3) - not ncing this breaks ur pattern
01:30:057 - not being clickable feels pretty underwhelming given the melody, could be a 3/4slider+circle yea?
01:50:920 (8) - nc here? compare to the first half of the map (wherever relevant here apply this)
01:29:239 (1,2) - ok so i get that you changed this from a stream, I think? but this still doesnt make sense, 1/2 sliders work a lot better, repeat sliders vs. circles it still has that same overmapped effect. fwiw I actually think the stream would have been fine but if you're gonna change it change it all the way, not halfway
pono -
00:18:673 (1) - no stream jump to this feels inconsistent giving the general movement of this part
00:35:705 - circle maybe? fits a bit better imo
01:00:466 (2,3) - ctrl+g here fits the rhythm better, cause what you have now randomly shifts to drums in the middle of following the piano
01:33:057 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - hm...i kinda hear this in a way that it should be grouped similar to 01:32:511 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - is, cause musically it doesnt really shift much from it so switching the polarity ends up playing weird imo
01:41:784 (6,1,2) - rhythm
also ncing is weird
01:44:511 (5) - NC
01:46:148 (1) - Remove NC, pls be consistent with this
01:46:557 (1) - remove NC, add NC on 01:46:693 (2), etc.. you know your patterning stick to it!!
infinte -
00:43:254 (12,1) - this reads like kickslider to circle to me, making the gap a bit more clear would be nice
00:56:239 (6,1) - fix stack?
exh -
00:55:966 (5) - an NC to indicate a shift in patterning / rhythm could be nice here
🤙🤙🤙
edit - ok so read the thread again and im pretty sure whatever conflicts were there before have been dealt with feel free to let me know if im wrong
01:03:602 (3) - not ncing this breaks ur pattern
01:30:057 - not being clickable feels pretty underwhelming given the melody, could be a 3/4slider+circle yea?
01:50:920 (8) - nc here? compare to the first half of the map (wherever relevant here apply this)
01:29:239 (1,2) - ok so i get that you changed this from a stream, I think? but this still doesnt make sense, 1/2 sliders work a lot better, repeat sliders vs. circles it still has that same overmapped effect. fwiw I actually think the stream would have been fine but if you're gonna change it change it all the way, not halfway
pono -
00:18:673 (1) - no stream jump to this feels inconsistent giving the general movement of this part
00:35:705 - circle maybe? fits a bit better imo
01:00:466 (2,3) - ctrl+g here fits the rhythm better, cause what you have now randomly shifts to drums in the middle of following the piano
01:33:057 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - hm...i kinda hear this in a way that it should be grouped similar to 01:32:511 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - is, cause musically it doesnt really shift much from it so switching the polarity ends up playing weird imo
01:41:784 (6,1,2) - rhythm
also ncing is weird01:44:511 (5) - NC
01:46:148 (1) - Remove NC, pls be consistent with this
01:46:557 (1) - remove NC, add NC on 01:46:693 (2), etc.. you know your patterning stick to it!!
infinte -
00:43:254 (12,1) - this reads like kickslider to circle to me, making the gap a bit more clear would be nice
00:56:239 (6,1) - fix stack?
exh -
00:55:966 (5) - an NC to indicate a shift in patterning / rhythm could be nice here
🤙🤙🤙
edit - ok so read the thread again and im pretty sure whatever conflicts were there before have been dealt with feel free to let me know if im wrong
Hobbes2 wrote:
topdiff -
01:03:602 (3) - not ncing this breaks ur pattern well the pattern breaks at 01:03:057 (1) - by using sliders so that's fair enough I think
01:30:057 - not being clickable feels pretty underwhelming given the melody, could be a 3/4slider+circle yea? sorry I am not versed in the arcane arts of 3/4 sliders they make me very angry :tangery:
01:50:920 (8) - nc here? compare to the first half of the map (wherever relevant here apply this) big woops also fixed 01:53:103 (1) - too
Topic Starter
Thank you Hobbes, I won't be able to respond to the mod until the 8/9th of Jan tho, just warning everybody.
pon
00:04:544 (3) - double check ur tail snapping
00:04:544 (3) - double check ur tail snapping
Topic Starter
than kyo uHobbes2 wrote:
infinte -
00:43:254 (12,1) - this reads like kickslider to circle to me, making the gap a bit more clear would be nice well that's pretty much what it is, the bpm and leniency makes it play just like one, and the downbeat + NC makes it very intuitive to play
00:56:239 (6,1) - fix stack? yes
exh -
00:55:966 (5) - an NC to indicate a shift in patterning / rhythm could be nice here good idea, changed in all my diffs
🤙🤙🤙
edit - ok so read the thread again and im pretty sure whatever conflicts were there before have been dealt with feel free to let me know if im wrong
Hobbes2 wrote:
pono -
00:18:673 (1) - no stream jump to this feels inconsistent giving the general movement of this part This is a jumpstream, its less spaced cause of the piano pitch, looks good to me.
fixed everything ! last time I hopeuso!osu file format v14
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EDIT - I'm fucking stupid and could have just qualified it, so uh...ask nao to qualify it tomorrow. Sorry about that lol
Topic Starter
stack leniency must be between 0.2 and 0.9
I really love GoldenWolf. Like, a lot. Like, a whole lot. You have no idea. I love hiim so much that it is inexplicable, and I'm ninety-nine percent sure that I have an unhealthy obsession. I will never get tired of listening that sweet, angelic voice of his. It is my life goal to meet up with him in real life and just say hello to him. I fall asleep at night dreaming of him holding a personal concert for me, and then he would be so tired that he comes and cuddles up to me while we sleep together. If I could just hold his hand for a brief moment, I could die happy. If given the opportunity, I would lightly nibble on his ear just to hear what kind of sweet moans he would let out. Then, I would hug his while he clings to my body hoping that I would stop, but I only continue as he moans louder and louder. I would give up almost anything just for him to look in my general direction. No matter what I do, I am constantly thinking of him. When I wake up, he is the first thing on my mind. When I go to school, I can only focus on him. When I go come home, I go on the computer so that I can listen to his beautiful voice. When I go to sleep, I dream of him and me living a happy life together. He is my pride, passion, and joy. If he was to call me "Onii-chan," I would probably get diabetes from his sweetness and die. I wish for nothing but his happiness. If it were for him, I would give my life without any second thoughts. Without him, my life would serve no purpose. I really love gOwO.
kill me
bubbled 
This isn't worth a DQ but next time you don't need to add "pono" in the tags if you have "Ponoyoshi"
it's actually needed for website search...
oh, I see. I wasn't aware of that
Well anyways congrats on the qualify ~
Well anyways congrats on the qualify ~
hey i noticed some uhhhhhh hitsounding errors(?) and im curious about a part in gowo's diff, do consider looking these over?
pono:
00:54:398 - 01:46:761 - blue tick clap? intentional? doesnt sound right to me
gowo:
01:29:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - wasn't this map popped for this stream?? p/6355393 care to explain what happened here i didn't see irre give any "ok" to this being still here after you said you removed it p/6362530
01:26:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - kinda not feeling the clap spam here, it doesn't really fit the song since the claps aren't actually in the song to begin with. sounds like it's just there to mask the 19 note jump pattern tbh...
would reallly work better if this part wasn't so additive imo
01:27:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - and here the finishes sound really weird just in general since there firstly are none in the song that appear that often, and secondly it makes it sound like a buildup section when it really isn't. 01:29:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - as well only to finish it off makes this entire part 01:25:420 - 01:29:784 - feel like you mapped a completely different song/section in the middle of the chorus - it really doesn't fit to me and i would like to hear what your reasoning for this whole part is
also yes i know you had a reason for the stream but i agree with the previous people that pointed it out, it rly doesn't fit. but the whole hitsounding scheme there is what im curious about
there's some missed finishes and whistles in the diff i noticed but im not even half sure what your hitsounding scheme is so maybe check those yourself if you decide to change anything
hope you consider what im saying!
pono:
00:54:398 - 01:46:761 - blue tick clap? intentional? doesnt sound right to me
gowo:
01:29:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - wasn't this map popped for this stream?? p/6355393 care to explain what happened here i didn't see irre give any "ok" to this being still here after you said you removed it p/6362530
01:26:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - kinda not feeling the clap spam here, it doesn't really fit the song since the claps aren't actually in the song to begin with. sounds like it's just there to mask the 19 note jump pattern tbh...
would reallly work better if this part wasn't so additive imo01:27:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - and here the finishes sound really weird just in general since there firstly are none in the song that appear that often, and secondly it makes it sound like a buildup section when it really isn't. 01:29:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - as well only to finish it off makes this entire part 01:25:420 - 01:29:784 - feel like you mapped a completely different song/section in the middle of the chorus - it really doesn't fit to me and i would like to hear what your reasoning for this whole part is
also yes i know you had a reason for the stream but i agree with the previous people that pointed it out, it rly doesn't fit. but the whole hitsounding scheme there is what im curious about
there's some missed finishes and whistles in the diff i noticed but im not even half sure what your hitsounding scheme is so maybe check those yourself if you decide to change anything
hope you consider what im saying!
concerns on goldenwolf's:
00:15:963 (8) - might want to nc this to not have extensively long combo
00:18:383 (1) - seems really pointless and weird to new combo this, the accompanying pattern is also kind of weird since it's clearly just a normal 8 roll and there's no particularly strong impact from these last 3 notes, in fact since the piano rolls are resetting on blue ticks (e.g. 00:17:415 - 00:17:802 - 00:18:770 - you might want to re-design these a tad
01:27:193 (8,9,10) - are you sure there's nothing you can do to properly section these out? they're pretty clearly the climax of the melody but they're just filling the end of this pattern
01:32:693 (4,5) - this bit is rather clearly much larger in scale than the other 1/3 things you're doing, and seemingly for no reason
01:51:057 (2,3,4,5) - you'll want to properly NC these two-beat asides like u did in this section: 01:00:875 - . On top of that, decide whether you want a 1,2,3,4 (as in 00:58:693 (1,2,3,4) - , and ) or a 1,2,1,2 (as in 00:49:966 (1,2,1,2) - and 01:42:330 (1,2,1,2) - ) - while they're slightly different, they still obviously represent the same parts of the melody as shown by their stacking nature.
01:57:193 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this is one entire smooth roll of 7, not a sudden 4,3, but oh well, artistic liberties
00:15:963 (8) - might want to nc this to not have extensively long combo
00:18:383 (1) - seems really pointless and weird to new combo this, the accompanying pattern is also kind of weird since it's clearly just a normal 8 roll and there's no particularly strong impact from these last 3 notes, in fact since the piano rolls are resetting on blue ticks (e.g. 00:17:415 - 00:17:802 - 00:18:770 - you might want to re-design these a tad
01:27:193 (8,9,10) - are you sure there's nothing you can do to properly section these out? they're pretty clearly the climax of the melody but they're just filling the end of this pattern
01:32:693 (4,5) - this bit is rather clearly much larger in scale than the other 1/3 things you're doing, and seemingly for no reason
01:51:057 (2,3,4,5) - you'll want to properly NC these two-beat asides like u did in this section: 01:00:875 - . On top of that, decide whether you want a 1,2,3,4 (as in 00:58:693 (1,2,3,4) - , and ) or a 1,2,1,2 (as in 00:49:966 (1,2,1,2) - and 01:42:330 (1,2,1,2) - ) - while they're slightly different, they still obviously represent the same parts of the melody as shown by their stacking nature.
01:57:193 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this is one entire smooth roll of 7, not a sudden 4,3, but oh well, artistic liberties
few concerns with gowos diff that i feel need to be addressed
Waterfall of Nine Heavens
-The timing in the beginning is noticeably wrong. While 165bpm does follow the guitar solo somewhat accurately because of many timing sections, it fails to follow the faint (organ?) sound. Even if you are not mapping the organ sound. I believe 180bpm is the correct speed for this song.
00:21:532 (1) - I believe that everything prior to this point was build up for this drop. In that case there is something wrong here. 00:20:365 (1,2,1,2) - The difficulty change here is significant to 00:19:712 (1,2) . I agree with this sudden difficulty spike because it follows the song intensity. However, the section afterwards fails to followup with the difficulty change. Since everything prior to this point was buildup, this section should have the same, if not higher difficulty than the buildup. An example would be: 00:23:032 (1,2,3,4,5) - I believe this pattern should be more spaced
00:31:031 (3) - The guitar comes in with its wonky melody at THIS point, not 00:30:865 (1) . But the way you put NC and arranged your pattern makes it seem like it's at 00:30:865 (1) . I think you should move NC to 00:31:031 (3) and maybe stack 00:30:865 (1,2,3) to better distinguish the melody change.
00:34:698 (1) - Just because sliders 1 and 2 look similar doesn’t make it okay to inconsistently put NC. I would argue that NC should be here 00:35:032 (2) . There are more inconsistency in your New Combos such as 00:35:865 (1,2,3) and 00:39:031 (5) , but pointing every single one of them out is a pain to do, I will leave that task to you. Generally NC is at the big white tick and whenever there is big difficulty spike.
01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - The drums are pretty much consistent, other than the fact that at 01:04:032 (1) the pitch drops. There is no clear reason for this sudden change in DS inconsistency in your stream. If you want to emphasize that the pitch drops at 01:04:032 (1) , try another pattern.
01:05:532 (1,2) - Your slider-heads are on clap sounds and slider-ends are on guitar melody, I don't like this since the players aren't tapping to the melody. I believe clap sounds are secondary, and they can even be neglected (sometimes) to emphasize melody. Don't you feel something missing at 01:05:865 (2) , there is a cool guitar sound and the players aren't tapping on it. Basically, mapping to the rhythm is fine and all, as long as your map emphasizes the melody the most, if that makes sense.
01:06:698 (1,2,3,4) - Same problem that I had with 01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) .
01:13:615 (4,1,2,3) and 01:14:615 (4,1,2,3) - follow similar rhythm, and you should move 01:14:615 (4,1) farther away from 01:14:198 (3) . Like how you spaced 01:13:365 (3,4,1) .
Kiai Time: There isn’t a stable flow that my mouse can follow, so gameplay feels a little choppy. It isn’t very visually appealing either. Distance between objects doesn’t really follow the intensity of the song at certain times. I will point out a few of these problems.
01:18:032 (2) - You’ve been using simple slider shapes like straight and curve, and this sudden change here doesn’t really make sense. The long guitar sound isn’t that intense to begin with, and you ended it on the wrong beat.
01:21:032 (3,4,5) - I don’t see how 5 deserves such a big jump, and I don’t understand why 01:21:532 is not mapped. There is a clap sound at 5 yes, but every other 2 bars has one. 01:20:698 (2) has a clap, and 01:20:865 is mapped correct? Same rule applies here then. You can’t just add your own hitsounds to a map and map those hitsounds as if they were part of the song.
01:26:365 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - You ignored the guitar here and focused the drums, but you focused the guitar here 01:24:865 (1,2,3,4) and ignored the drums. Pick which instrument to focus on and stick with it. Also this 01:26:698 (1,2,3,4,1) is too spaced, the drums are dropping in pitch, and is not intensifying, which means that this difficulty spike is contradicting the song.
This next part is just copy pasted so im gonna skip~
For this section 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) can you use 2 combo colors? I know you're trying to make it look cool but it's really hard to play those 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) when they stack. Maybe use white and a shade of grey to compliment the storyboard.
I can't really pass the slider deathstream haha, rhythm kinda hard to follow but that's probably intended so not gonna say anything.
03:28:615 (3) - Please don’t use 5% for any slider ends it’s confusing as fuck
04:10:198 (2,1) - fix the parallel part please
05:08:698 - this timing point is unnecessary. Not all songs end the last note on a big white tick anyways
And that's all! If you have questions about my mods don't hesitate to pm me on forum or in game. Good luck with your map
i actually dont have a clue
-The timing in the beginning is noticeably wrong. While 165bpm does follow the guitar solo somewhat accurately because of many timing sections, it fails to follow the faint (organ?) sound. Even if you are not mapping the organ sound. I believe 180bpm is the correct speed for this song.
00:21:532 (1) - I believe that everything prior to this point was build up for this drop. In that case there is something wrong here. 00:20:365 (1,2,1,2) - The difficulty change here is significant to 00:19:712 (1,2) . I agree with this sudden difficulty spike because it follows the song intensity. However, the section afterwards fails to followup with the difficulty change. Since everything prior to this point was buildup, this section should have the same, if not higher difficulty than the buildup. An example would be: 00:23:032 (1,2,3,4,5) - I believe this pattern should be more spaced
00:31:031 (3) - The guitar comes in with its wonky melody at THIS point, not 00:30:865 (1) . But the way you put NC and arranged your pattern makes it seem like it's at 00:30:865 (1) . I think you should move NC to 00:31:031 (3) and maybe stack 00:30:865 (1,2,3) to better distinguish the melody change.
00:34:698 (1) - Just because sliders 1 and 2 look similar doesn’t make it okay to inconsistently put NC. I would argue that NC should be here 00:35:032 (2) . There are more inconsistency in your New Combos such as 00:35:865 (1,2,3) and 00:39:031 (5) , but pointing every single one of them out is a pain to do, I will leave that task to you. Generally NC is at the big white tick and whenever there is big difficulty spike.
01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - The drums are pretty much consistent, other than the fact that at 01:04:032 (1) the pitch drops. There is no clear reason for this sudden change in DS inconsistency in your stream. If you want to emphasize that the pitch drops at 01:04:032 (1) , try another pattern.
01:05:532 (1,2) - Your slider-heads are on clap sounds and slider-ends are on guitar melody, I don't like this since the players aren't tapping to the melody. I believe clap sounds are secondary, and they can even be neglected (sometimes) to emphasize melody. Don't you feel something missing at 01:05:865 (2) , there is a cool guitar sound and the players aren't tapping on it. Basically, mapping to the rhythm is fine and all, as long as your map emphasizes the melody the most, if that makes sense.
01:06:698 (1,2,3,4) - Same problem that I had with 01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) .
01:13:615 (4,1,2,3) and 01:14:615 (4,1,2,3) - follow similar rhythm, and you should move 01:14:615 (4,1) farther away from 01:14:198 (3) . Like how you spaced 01:13:365 (3,4,1) .
Kiai Time: There isn’t a stable flow that my mouse can follow, so gameplay feels a little choppy. It isn’t very visually appealing either. Distance between objects doesn’t really follow the intensity of the song at certain times. I will point out a few of these problems.
01:18:032 (2) - You’ve been using simple slider shapes like straight and curve, and this sudden change here doesn’t really make sense. The long guitar sound isn’t that intense to begin with, and you ended it on the wrong beat.
01:21:032 (3,4,5) - I don’t see how 5 deserves such a big jump, and I don’t understand why 01:21:532 is not mapped. There is a clap sound at 5 yes, but every other 2 bars has one. 01:20:698 (2) has a clap, and 01:20:865 is mapped correct? Same rule applies here then. You can’t just add your own hitsounds to a map and map those hitsounds as if they were part of the song.
01:26:365 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - You ignored the guitar here and focused the drums, but you focused the guitar here 01:24:865 (1,2,3,4) and ignored the drums. Pick which instrument to focus on and stick with it. Also this 01:26:698 (1,2,3,4,1) is too spaced, the drums are dropping in pitch, and is not intensifying, which means that this difficulty spike is contradicting the song.
This next part is just copy pasted so im gonna skip~
For this section 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) can you use 2 combo colors? I know you're trying to make it look cool but it's really hard to play those 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) when they stack. Maybe use white and a shade of grey to compliment the storyboard.
I can't really pass the slider deathstream haha, rhythm kinda hard to follow but that's probably intended so not gonna say anything.
03:28:615 (3) - Please don’t use 5% for any slider ends it’s confusing as fuck
04:10:198 (2,1) - fix the parallel part please
05:08:698 - this timing point is unnecessary. Not all songs end the last note on a big white tick anyways
And that's all! If you have questions about my mods don't hesitate to pm me on forum or in game. Good luck with your map
good stuff! gratz on qualified~ and i hope you can solve concerns above xd
leave it somethings no need to fix all, but i hope it helps..... oh wait, it already got qualified ;w;
pono
01:34:693 (1) - why it snapped at 1/6 even u use 1/4 both b4 01:34:966 (4,5) -
00:43:254 (3) - others are snapped on 00:43:383 - but this diff only snapped at 00:43:351 - . whos win?
00:52:489 (6) - what do you think about that remove it? since the big beat ends on here, would be beter imo.
00:54:330 (4,5,6,7) - this flow is questionable imo. if u didnt stack 00:54:602 (6,7) - it both, can be mor perfect im sure
01:05:511 - so empty here
pono
01:34:693 (1) - why it snapped at 1/6 even u use 1/4 both b4 01:34:966 (4,5) -
00:43:254 (3) - others are snapped on 00:43:383 - but this diff only snapped at 00:43:351 - . whos win?
00:52:489 (6) - what do you think about that remove it? since the big beat ends on here, would be beter imo.
00:54:330 (4,5,6,7) - this flow is questionable imo. if u didnt stack 00:54:602 (6,7) - it both, can be mor perfect im sure
01:05:511 - so empty here
ogod I almost forgot to check the feedback
Mir wrote:
hey i noticed some uhhhhhh hitsounding errors(?) and im curious about a part in gowo's diff, do consider looking these over?
gowo:
01:29:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - wasn't this map popped for this stream?? p/6355393 care to explain what happened here i didn't see irre give any "ok" to this being still here after you said you removed it p/6362530 Because I didn't even agree with irre's point to begin with. I hated the removal of that stream. Never got an actual mod from irre about it either, from what I understood he didn't even check the map but simply veto'd it because there was an overmapped stream, when I tried discussing it on discord with him he pretty much rejected all my arguments as non-valid because he very strongly disagree with overmapping, so yeah since we can't discuss the matter and I disagree with the removal of it (for various reasons I've stated multiple times but basically because I think it fits, adds something to the song and also the song actually has a faint roll going on there), I don't think I should concede it.
01:26:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - kinda not feeling the clap spam here, it doesn't really fit the song since the claps aren't actually in the song to begin with. sounds like it's just there to mask the 19 note jump pattern tbh...
01:27:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - and here the finishes sound really weird just in general since there firstly are none in the song that appear that often, and secondly it makes it sound like a buildup section when it really isn't. 01:29:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - as well only to finish it off makes this entire part 01:25:420 - 01:29:784 - feel like you mapped a completely different song/section in the middle of the chorus - it really doesn't fit to me and i would like to hear what your reasoning for this whole part is Yeah it's additive hitsounding, I don't think it sounds wrong or bad but then again maybe I'm just biased because I listen to a lot of metal? idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ In any case it's not like I don't understand how or why people wouldn't like it, and while I often press people to follow a song first and foremost, I also like additive stuff, building around a song with moderation, I do think it isn't a bad addition and it isn't out of place either.
Because it's the climax of the song and that part is especially light on the drums to me (again, maybe I'm biased bcs I listen to a lot of metal yada yada) with only a snare on 2nd and 4th beat and basically can't hear much else, I decided to add more power to it with a 1/1 snare and then cymbals on the 2nd part.
That's about it really. Arguable for the roll, but still I do hear a roll there and I don't I'm imagining it lol, I added the hitsounds to give more feedback to it.
also yes i know you had a reason for the stream but i agree with the previous people that pointed it out, it rly doesn't fit. but the whole hitsounding scheme there is what im curious about I mean it's fine, I totally get why people wouldn't like it and think it doesn't fit, I'm not forcing anyone to accept my views, in the end it's what I feel like fits the song best and how I represent it. That said I'm still honestly surprised the hitsounding and that stream getting so much negative attention lol, I really don't think it's that big of a deal nor even such an issue at all :p
there's some missed finishes and whistles in the diff i noticed but im not even half sure what your hitsounding scheme is so maybe check those yourself if you decide to change anything Please do point them out if you feel like they're missing, I quickly checked and didn't notice anything missing but still would like to hear what you think could/should be added
hope you consider what im saying!
Thank you both for your mods!Shiirn wrote:
concerns on goldenwolf's:
00:15:963 (8) - might want to nc this to not have extensively long combo I don't think 16 is that long of a combo but I guess a nc won't hurt
00:18:383 (1) - seems really pointless and weird to new combo this, the accompanying pattern is also kind of weird since it's clearly just a normal 8 roll and there's no particularly strong impact from these last 3 notes, in fact since the piano rolls are resetting on blue ticks (e.g. 00:17:415 - 00:17:802 - 00:18:770 - you might want to re-design these a tad oh shit yeah I missed the blue tick emphasis there my bad, feels so much better now lol
01:27:193 (8,9,10) - are you sure there's nothing you can do to properly section these out? they're pretty clearly the climax of the melody but they're just filling the end of this pattern I can NC it to make it stand out more, that said I don't wanna overdo it too hard on the spacing and such bcs it's quite a long row of 1/2s already
01:32:693 (4,5) - this bit is rather clearly much larger in scale than the other 1/3 things you're doing, and seemingly for no reason What do you mean for no reason? Of course there are reasons lol; it's the climax of the song, loud and high pitched synth, spacing isn't even new as the intro has the same spacing for roughly the same speed (155bpm 1/4 vs 220bpm 1/3)
01:51:057 (2,3,4,5) - you'll want to properly NC these two-beat asides like u did in this section: 01:00:875 - . On top of that, decide whether you want a 1,2,3,4 (as in 00:58:693 (1,2,3,4) - , and ) or a 1,2,1,2 (as in 00:49:966 (1,2,1,2) - and 01:42:330 (1,2,1,2) - ) - while they're slightly different, they still obviously represent the same parts of the melody as shown by their stacking nature. Fixed the inconsistencies
01:57:193 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this is one entire smooth roll of 7, not a sudden 4,3, but oh well, artistic liberties The synth yes but the drums are split in 4 then 3, feels unnatural to me to just ignore it when I hitsound the drums
As requested
I've reset kudosu, you can give it the posts that you've found helpful now.
Removed fixed issues from mirLen wrote:
leave it somethings no need to fix all, but i hope it helps..... oh wait, it already got qualified ;w;
pono
01:34:693 (1) - why it snapped at 1/6 even u use 1/4 both b4 01:34:966 (4,5) - I've managed to do that because of the stream just before in 1/3, there no sound on the sliderend even if I put a 1/4 there.. So I putted a 1/3 slider to stay consistent with the last stream and make a smoother transition than just finishing the stream on a circle. 01:34:966 (4,5) - and both sliders are 1/4 cause the rhythme changed on them.
00:52:489 (6) - what do you think about that remove it? since the big beat ends on here, would be beter imo. I don't like putting just a triple in that pattern, I prefered this cause of kickslider effect, and the playability is not affected that much cause the direction is still quite the same.
01:05:511 - so empty hereCause there no real sound on it. In my opinion this works fine, and putting a sliders is quite the same thing.
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everyone's responded to, so
This wasn't responded to?AyanokoRin wrote:
few concerns with gowos diff that i feel need to be addressedWaterfall of Nine Heavens
-The timing in the beginning is noticeably wrong. While 165bpm does follow the guitar solo somewhat accurately because of many timing sections, it fails to follow the faint (organ?) sound. Even if you are not mapping the organ sound. I believe 180bpm is the correct speed for this song.
00:21:532 (1) - I believe that everything prior to this point was build up for this drop. In that case there is something wrong here. 00:20:365 (1,2,1,2) - The difficulty change here is significant to 00:19:712 (1,2) . I agree with this sudden difficulty spike because it follows the song intensity. However, the section afterwards fails to followup with the difficulty change. Since everything prior to this point was buildup, this section should have the same, if not higher difficulty than the buildup. An example would be: 00:23:032 (1,2,3,4,5) - I believe this pattern should be more spaced
00:31:031 (3) - The guitar comes in with its wonky melody at THIS point, not 00:30:865 (1) . But the way you put NC and arranged your pattern makes it seem like it's at 00:30:865 (1) . I think you should move NC to 00:31:031 (3) and maybe stack 00:30:865 (1,2,3) to better distinguish the melody change.
00:34:698 (1) - Just because sliders 1 and 2 look similar doesn’t make it okay to inconsistently put NC. I would argue that NC should be here 00:35:032 (2) . There are more inconsistency in your New Combos such as 00:35:865 (1,2,3) and 00:39:031 (5) , but pointing every single one of them out is a pain to do, I will leave that task to you. Generally NC is at the big white tick and whenever there is big difficulty spike.
01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - The drums are pretty much consistent, other than the fact that at 01:04:032 (1) the pitch drops. There is no clear reason for this sudden change in DS inconsistency in your stream. If you want to emphasize that the pitch drops at 01:04:032 (1) , try another pattern.
01:05:532 (1,2) - Your slider-heads are on clap sounds and slider-ends are on guitar melody, I don't like this since the players aren't tapping to the melody. I believe clap sounds are secondary, and they can even be neglected (sometimes) to emphasize melody. Don't you feel something missing at 01:05:865 (2) , there is a cool guitar sound and the players aren't tapping on it. Basically, mapping to the rhythm is fine and all, as long as your map emphasizes the melody the most, if that makes sense.
01:06:698 (1,2,3,4) - Same problem that I had with 01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) .
01:13:615 (4,1,2,3) and 01:14:615 (4,1,2,3) - follow similar rhythm, and you should move 01:14:615 (4,1) farther away from 01:14:198 (3) . Like how you spaced 01:13:365 (3,4,1) .
Kiai Time: There isn’t a stable flow that my mouse can follow, so gameplay feels a little choppy. It isn’t very visually appealing either. Distance between objects doesn’t really follow the intensity of the song at certain times. I will point out a few of these problems.
01:18:032 (2) - You’ve been using simple slider shapes like straight and curve, and this sudden change here doesn’t really make sense. The long guitar sound isn’t that intense to begin with, and you ended it on the wrong beat.
01:21:032 (3,4,5) - I don’t see how 5 deserves such a big jump, and I don’t understand why 01:21:532 is not mapped. There is a clap sound at 5 yes, but every other 2 bars has one. 01:20:698 (2) has a clap, and 01:20:865 is mapped correct? Same rule applies here then. You can’t just add your own hitsounds to a map and map those hitsounds as if they were part of the song.
01:26:365 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - You ignored the guitar here and focused the drums, but you focused the guitar here 01:24:865 (1,2,3,4) and ignored the drums. Pick which instrument to focus on and stick with it. Also this 01:26:698 (1,2,3,4,1) is too spaced, the drums are dropping in pitch, and is not intensifying, which means that this difficulty spike is contradicting the song.
This next part is just copy pasted so im gonna skip~
For this section 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) can you use 2 combo colors? I know you're trying to make it look cool but it's really hard to play those 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) when they stack. Maybe use white and a shade of grey to compliment the storyboard.
I can't really pass the slider deathstream haha, rhythm kinda hard to follow but that's probably intended so not gonna say anything.
03:28:615 (3) - Please don’t use 5% for any slider ends it’s confusing as fuck
04:10:198 (2,1) - fix the parallel part please
05:08:698 - this timing point is unnecessary. Not all songs end the last note on a big white tick anyways
And that's all! If you have questions about my mods don't hesitate to pm me on forum or in game. Good luck with your mapi actually dont have a clue
EDIT - okay mir is fucking stupid and baited me ayanoko you're a legend
ok so you got memed on that's not even a mod for this map
Mir wrote:
ok so you got memed on that's not even a mod for this map
im actually angry that i fell for mir falling for that. fucking kill me
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few concerns with gowos diff that i feel need to be addressed
Waterfall of Nine Heavens
-The timing in the beginning is noticeably wrong. While 165bpm does follow the guitar solo somewhat accurately because of many timing sections, it fails to follow the faint (organ?) sound. Even if you are not mapping the organ sound. I believe 180bpm is the correct speed for this song.
00:21:532 (1) - I believe that everything prior to this point was build up for this drop. In that case there is something wrong here. 00:20:365 (1,2,1,2) - The difficulty change here is significant to 00:19:712 (1,2) . I agree with this sudden difficulty spike because it follows the song intensity. However, the section afterwards fails to followup with the difficulty change. Since everything prior to this point was buildup, this section should have the same, if not higher difficulty than the buildup. An example would be: 00:23:032 (1,2,3,4,5) - I believe this pattern should be more spaced
00:31:031 (3) - The guitar comes in with its wonky melody at THIS point, not 00:30:865 (1) . But the way you put NC and arranged your pattern makes it seem like it's at 00:30:865 (1) . I think you should move NC to 00:31:031 (3) and maybe stack 00:30:865 (1,2,3) to better distinguish the melody change.
00:34:698 (1) - Just because sliders 1 and 2 look similar doesn’t make it okay to inconsistently put NC. I would argue that NC should be here 00:35:032 (2) . There are more inconsistency in your New Combos such as 00:35:865 (1,2,3) and 00:39:031 (5) , but pointing every single one of them out is a pain to do, I will leave that task to you. Generally NC is at the big white tick and whenever there is big difficulty spike.
01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - The drums are pretty much consistent, other than the fact that at 01:04:032 (1) the pitch drops. There is no clear reason for this sudden change in DS inconsistency in your stream. If you want to emphasize that the pitch drops at 01:04:032 (1) , try another pattern.
01:05:532 (1,2) - Your slider-heads are on clap sounds and slider-ends are on guitar melody, I don't like this since the players aren't tapping to the melody. I believe clap sounds are secondary, and they can even be neglected (sometimes) to emphasize melody. Don't you feel something missing at 01:05:865 (2) , there is a cool guitar sound and the players aren't tapping on it. Basically, mapping to the rhythm is fine and all, as long as your map emphasizes the melody the most, if that makes sense.
01:06:698 (1,2,3,4) - Same problem that I had with 01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) .
01:13:615 (4,1,2,3) and 01:14:615 (4,1,2,3) - follow similar rhythm, and you should move 01:14:615 (4,1) farther away from 01:14:198 (3) . Like how you spaced 01:13:365 (3,4,1) .
Kiai Time: There isn’t a stable flow that my mouse can follow, so gameplay feels a little choppy. It isn’t very visually appealing either. Distance between objects doesn’t really follow the intensity of the song at certain times. I will point out a few of these problems.
01:18:032 (2) - You’ve been using simple slider shapes like straight and curve, and this sudden change here doesn’t really make sense. The long guitar sound isn’t that intense to begin with, and you ended it on the wrong beat.
01:21:032 (3,4,5) - I don’t see how 5 deserves such a big jump, and I don’t understand why 01:21:532 is not mapped. There is a clap sound at 5 yes, but every other 2 bars has one. 01:20:698 (2) has a clap, and 01:20:865 is mapped correct? Same rule applies here then. You can’t just add your own hitsounds to a map and map those hitsounds as if they were part of the song.
01:26:365 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - You ignored the guitar here and focused the drums, but you focused the guitar here 01:24:865 (1,2,3,4) and ignored the drums. Pick which instrument to focus on and stick with it. Also this 01:26:698 (1,2,3,4,1) is too spaced, the drums are dropping in pitch, and is not intensifying, which means that this difficulty spike is contradicting the song.
This next part is just copy pasted so im gonna skip~
For this section 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) can you use 2 combo colors? I know you're trying to make it look cool but it's really hard to play those 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) when they stack. Maybe use white and a shade of grey to compliment the storyboard.
I can't really pass the slider deathstream haha, rhythm kinda hard to follow but that's probably intended so not gonna say anything.
03:28:615 (3) - Please don’t use 5% for any slider ends it’s confusing as fuck
04:10:198 (2,1) - fix the parallel part please
05:08:698 - this timing point is unnecessary. Not all songs end the last note on a big white tick anyways
And that's all! If you have questions about my mods don't hesitate to pm me on forum or in game. Good luck with your map
i actually dont have a clue
-The timing in the beginning is noticeably wrong. While 165bpm does follow the guitar solo somewhat accurately because of many timing sections, it fails to follow the faint (organ?) sound. Even if you are not mapping the organ sound. I believe 180bpm is the correct speed for this song.
00:21:532 (1) - I believe that everything prior to this point was build up for this drop. In that case there is something wrong here. 00:20:365 (1,2,1,2) - The difficulty change here is significant to 00:19:712 (1,2) . I agree with this sudden difficulty spike because it follows the song intensity. However, the section afterwards fails to followup with the difficulty change. Since everything prior to this point was buildup, this section should have the same, if not higher difficulty than the buildup. An example would be: 00:23:032 (1,2,3,4,5) - I believe this pattern should be more spaced
00:31:031 (3) - The guitar comes in with its wonky melody at THIS point, not 00:30:865 (1) . But the way you put NC and arranged your pattern makes it seem like it's at 00:30:865 (1) . I think you should move NC to 00:31:031 (3) and maybe stack 00:30:865 (1,2,3) to better distinguish the melody change.
00:34:698 (1) - Just because sliders 1 and 2 look similar doesn’t make it okay to inconsistently put NC. I would argue that NC should be here 00:35:032 (2) . There are more inconsistency in your New Combos such as 00:35:865 (1,2,3) and 00:39:031 (5) , but pointing every single one of them out is a pain to do, I will leave that task to you. Generally NC is at the big white tick and whenever there is big difficulty spike.
01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - The drums are pretty much consistent, other than the fact that at 01:04:032 (1) the pitch drops. There is no clear reason for this sudden change in DS inconsistency in your stream. If you want to emphasize that the pitch drops at 01:04:032 (1) , try another pattern.
01:05:532 (1,2) - Your slider-heads are on clap sounds and slider-ends are on guitar melody, I don't like this since the players aren't tapping to the melody. I believe clap sounds are secondary, and they can even be neglected (sometimes) to emphasize melody. Don't you feel something missing at 01:05:865 (2) , there is a cool guitar sound and the players aren't tapping on it. Basically, mapping to the rhythm is fine and all, as long as your map emphasizes the melody the most, if that makes sense.
01:06:698 (1,2,3,4) - Same problem that I had with 01:03:698 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) .
01:13:615 (4,1,2,3) and 01:14:615 (4,1,2,3) - follow similar rhythm, and you should move 01:14:615 (4,1) farther away from 01:14:198 (3) . Like how you spaced 01:13:365 (3,4,1) .
Kiai Time: There isn’t a stable flow that my mouse can follow, so gameplay feels a little choppy. It isn’t very visually appealing either. Distance between objects doesn’t really follow the intensity of the song at certain times. I will point out a few of these problems.
01:18:032 (2) - You’ve been using simple slider shapes like straight and curve, and this sudden change here doesn’t really make sense. The long guitar sound isn’t that intense to begin with, and you ended it on the wrong beat.
01:21:032 (3,4,5) - I don’t see how 5 deserves such a big jump, and I don’t understand why 01:21:532 is not mapped. There is a clap sound at 5 yes, but every other 2 bars has one. 01:20:698 (2) has a clap, and 01:20:865 is mapped correct? Same rule applies here then. You can’t just add your own hitsounds to a map and map those hitsounds as if they were part of the song.
01:26:365 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - You ignored the guitar here and focused the drums, but you focused the guitar here 01:24:865 (1,2,3,4) and ignored the drums. Pick which instrument to focus on and stick with it. Also this 01:26:698 (1,2,3,4,1) is too spaced, the drums are dropping in pitch, and is not intensifying, which means that this difficulty spike is contradicting the song.
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For this section 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) can you use 2 combo colors? I know you're trying to make it look cool but it's really hard to play those 02:53:698 (1,2,3,4,5) when they stack. Maybe use white and a shade of grey to compliment the storyboard.
I can't really pass the slider deathstream haha, rhythm kinda hard to follow but that's probably intended so not gonna say anything.
03:28:615 (3) - Please don’t use 5% for any slider ends it’s confusing as fuck
04:10:198 (2,1) - fix the parallel part please
05:08:698 - this timing point is unnecessary. Not all songs end the last note on a big white tick anyways
And that's all! If you have questions about my mods don't hesitate to pm me on forum or in game. Good luck with your map
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