Nekomata Master - Greening · forum

Aurele

Global Moderator

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-05-28T22:06:04+00:00

LowComboFC wrote:
did we say we would m4m I don't remember but I don't mind xd

[Gabe]
00:04:459 (1,2,3) - why are these NCed if 00:11:034 (2,3) - those on the respective section are not? would remove their NC or vice versa tbh I just forgot to add a new combo to 00:11:034 -
00:15:144 (2) - does this need the middle red point anyway lol (same goes for all the sliders of this shape) lel, I don't know why I've done that
00:45:966 (1) - would be better if 00:46:377 - was clickable (for emphasis) because it's the start of a new measure and there isn't a stronger sound on the timeline you have it on at the moment (same goes for all similar rhythm usage) yeah done!
01:42:267 (1) - what happened to DS here :thinking: the way you have it currently will simply be confusing for new players the spacing is consistent in 0.80x ;;
01:55:418 (1) - ^^

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thank you for the mod!

_Stan

Beatmap Nominator

777 posts

Joined June 2012

_Stan 2017-05-30T14:43:25+00:00

JeirYagtama wrote:
Stan's Hard
00:08:569 (1) - you can ctrl g this for better flow | yes
00:19:459 (4) - why not make this a triple instead for better and challenging playability to the new players I guess | nope, I think it's fine
00:39:185 (6) - ^ | ^
00:34:048 (2) - ctrl g for better flow | ^
00:56:856 (2,3) - you can make a triple out of this because theres also a sound in the blue tick | no, actually this is not lead music sounds
01:03:432 (2,3) - ^ |
01:07:541 (5,1) - ^ |
theres lots of sounds in the music that you can put triples on you're on your own on finding them from this point on xd | keep
01:19:254 (2,3) - why not make this a slider bow instead looks weird to me as of what it is now | em, it's to make 3 clearly
01:21:514 (4,1) - stack pls thx | it's fine to me
01:23:774 (4,3) - also ctrl g these 2 seperately for better flow | op
01:34:048 (1) - why a spinner when there's lots of sounds you can still map in that section? | wanna a spinner
01:50:486 (1) - I suggest making this slider longer till the next red think cos it sounds better like that imo | fixed
the problem for this map for that its undermapped xd

thank you so much!

LowComboFC wrote:
[Stan]
00:06:925 (1,2,3) - Rhythm suggestion: That will result into emphasizing the loud sound in the beginning and will not skip the sound on 00:07:541 - too. | I catch the beat sounds here
00:16:993 (2) - idk why this needs to be a reverse slider especially because you use that element for dominant sounds like 00:16:171 (5) - here but on 00:16:993 (2) - it doesn't support anything really. | ok
00:29:528 (7,1) - this is cool | thanks
00:44:733 (5,6) - Should ctrl+g (and move appropriately) these two for better emphasis. You do it 00:51:308 (5,6) - here so why not there too lol | ok
01:01:171 (1,2) - don't really know if this is against the guidelines or anything but this is a damn big spacing. Ensured that it will surprise people of that skill level. | cuz there rhythm space is large so I think it's fine
01:21:719 (1,2,3,4) - nazi but please make this square even xdd | ok
01:48:021 (2,1) - this antiflow is really unsupported by the song and it's bad to play | ok
01:50:486 (1) - shouldn't this end at 01:51:103 - since all the other sliders in that section have 1/2 distance between each other so it would make more sense if this was too | fixed
I actually like the stylistic choices of this diff \o/

thanks too~

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Mismagius

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Joined July 2008

Mismagius 2017-06-01T18:10:24+00:00

i think you asked me to only mod last diff so correct me if im wrong

[Tranquility]

00:03:226 (8) - rotating this slider by -12 degrees selection centre makes it flow better with the previous and next note
00:23:363 (1) - idk about you but for playability i'd rather place this around 416;364, maybe adjust (2)'s spacing but imo plays much better like this
00:36:856 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - as the pitch is severely increasing you could really space these more as they look like they have almost the same spacing, doesn't feel too dynamic to play especially considering you have jumps on the next combo
00:47:199 (4) - moving the third sliderpoint to 208;68 makes this wave slider look nicer
01:24:493 (2) - maybe place at 408;229 for a straight line with (3)?
01:37:336 (1,2,3) - not exactly a straight line but really close to being one
01:38:158 (1,2,3) - ^

cool map, not much to fix really

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-06-06T18:12:16+00:00

Blue Dragon wrote:
i think you asked me to only mod last diff so correct me if im wrong yup, only last diff

[Tranquility]
00:03:226 (8) - rotating this slider by -12 degrees selection centre makes it flow better with the previous and next note True, fixed
00:23:363 (1) - idk about you but for playability i'd rather place this around 416;364, maybe adjust (2)'s spacing but imo plays much better like this Done and rotated 2 and 3 as well
00:36:856 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - as the pitch is severely increasing you could really space these more as they look like they have almost the same spacing, doesn't feel too dynamic to play especially considering you have jumps on the next combo The spacing does increase here, but I adjusted this part to reflect the music better
00:47:199 (4) - moving the third sliderpoint to 208;68 makes this wave slider look nicer Nice, done
01:24:493 (2) - maybe place at 408;229 for a straight line with (3)? Done
01:37:336 (1,2,3) - not exactly a straight line but really close to being one Done
01:38:158 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
cool map, not much to fix really

Thanks for the mod! Waiting for the BN check now

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-06-08T20:58:32+00:00

Hi there. M4M request from the Pigeon Queue.

[General]

Tag in Stan's Hard is inconsistent with other difficulties.
normal-hitclap.wav is left unused. You should remove it if you're not gonna change your hitsound.

[Gabe's Easy]

00:59:117 (1) - This slider starts on a weaker beat while reverse on a strong beat. I would suggest you to change it to a circle followed by a 1/1 slider.
00:11:856 (2) - ^ same problem. The slider tail is on a rather emphasized downbeat. You may want a 3/1 slider and a circle to follow both the long instrument and that downbeat.
00:51:308 (3,1) - Rhythm arrangement here is slightly off the music. I think a better option could be like this.
01:19:254 (1,2) - ^ The problem is, instrument at 01:20:486 - is stopped, and then the music goes into a new section. A slider covering this timing point isn't a nice arrangement for me. Solution.

[Firetruck's Normal]

00:37:336 (2,3) - These two slidertails are kinda overmapped. There's no instrument there, so no need to make such complex rhythm. 1/1 rhythm is more recommended.
01:27:055 - A spinner could be added in this break time?
really decent

[Stan's Hard]

整个diff的默认clap听起来就和臭了的哨子一样，有的人喜欢，有的人就不那么喜欢了= =。尤其是00:11:856 - 之前的和01:39:391 - 之后的所有拍都没有鼓音基础，还有不少是连续拍，听起来感觉蛮刺耳的。
01:17:610 (5,6) - Compared to other jumps in this diff, this one looks like not following any certain thing. Ctrl+G at 01:18:021 (6) -
01:18:432 (7,1) - Jump could be placed between these two notes instead, or between 01:18:637 (1,2) - (with switching the NC).
01:48:021 (2,1) - 01:51:308 (3,1) - 安静部分的跳是否值得比kiai里的跳还要大很多？我觉得不要
最后加一个转盘和其它难度统一时间结尾吧

[Nokashi's Insane]

01:12:473 (8) - move to 260,24? There could be a little bit more emphasis added to 8->1 jump
skip all nazi things

[Tranquility]

00:01:993 (1,2,3,4) - Flow here is not as fluent as other similar patterns like 00:00:350 (1,2,3,4) - . It seems like there's a small turn in the middle of the oval flow. It's quite minor but it affects how the map looks like. Slightly adjust the position of circle 2,3,4
00:06:411 (8) - In fact, this tick catches little attention from players. You can try to remove the whistle hitsound and the whole feeling of this stream is still the same. For me, you should keep your rhythm arrangement on 00:06:103 (6,7,8) - similar to 00:05:692 (3,4,5) - because they share similar emphasis structure. The jump between 00:06:205 (7,8) - and that drum-whistle are kinda redundant. The real emphasis (and jump) should be at 00:06:411 (8,9) - instead.
00:08:569 (1,2,3) - Mute slidertails. Those slidertail hitnormals don't fit the music.
00:15:966 (5,6,7,8) - This pattern is just too general. To follow the music more properly, you may generate a special rotate (or something else special) pattern for 00:16:171 (6,7,8) - . 00:15:966 (5) - is just not in the instrument structure of this part, so turning it into a circle to leave more space for the following pattern could be a nice choice.
00:22:541 (5,1,2,3) - ^ as a similar music section, this one at least present differences between the first slider and the following three (vertical vs. horizontal), which should be applied to other similar situations.
00:37:678 (6,7) - This one looks a bit random when it is so close to another similar structure 00:36:856 (2,3) - while not in pair with it or in other discernible design. You should understand that a blanket on a slightly distant object is very easy to be overlooked. Same as 00:37:267 (4,5) -
00:39:185 (6,7,8,9) - Move them as a whole to 316,192 (where circle 6 should be locate after the movement)
00:45:144 (3,5,7) - a rather random design for me. Do you want to make them more neat by a bit?
In fact, there're many small factors that I think affect the overall quality of this map. Let me illustrate some of them:
1. Slightly tilted and curved sliders like 00:32:815 (8) - , 00:37:336 (5,7) - , 01:01:171 (1) - , 01:02:815 (1) - , etc can easily make your map look a bit random, especially when they're presenting an unnatural flow like 01:02:610 (7,8,1) - , 01:10:007 (4,5,6) - (there're actually two upward curves in this flow), 01:35:076 (6,7,8,9) - (the flow could be more natural with more curved slider, but not the current one).
2. ^ Same for streams, for both short ones and long: 00:49:459 (9,10,1) - , 00:51:103 (10,11,1) - (only flowing, not presenting any kind of pattern), 00:57:678 (10,11,1,2) - (only flowing, and unnatural by a bit), etc.
3. Random overlaps like 00:52:336 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - . This is maybe under design, but it's not designed very neatly I have to say.
4. Unpolished design like 00:38:158 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - . You have already presented something regular (00:38:158 (1,2,4) - ), but you just destroy the regular impression then by a random jump from 5->6;
tl;dr: Some aesthetic design is kinda unpolished and unnatural. I'd admit that this map has a lot of nice design that is worth nomination, but the overall aesthetic thing in this map should be adjusted to fit the quality of a nice instrumental map.

Tips: When you're making patterns that are just for flow, making them more regular will probably gain a nice impression. For example, stacked or linear triplets, or triplets for blanket, to replace those random curved tilted triplets. Besides, you may pay more attention to the music and follow its characteristic to make a special pattern. Of course you have many other choices other than regular patterns to achieve your intended expression, but this tip is prepared just in case you don't make up one temporarily.

That's all. Good luck~

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-06-09T00:39:25+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
Hi there. M4M request from the Pigeon Queue.

[General]
Tag in Stan's Hard is inconsistent with other difficulties.
normal-hitclap.wav is left unused. You should remove it if you're not gonna change your hitsound. Removed
[Tranquility]
00:01:993 (1,2,3,4) - Flow here is not as fluent as other similar patterns like 00:00:350 (1,2,3,4) - . It seems like there's a small turn in the middle of the oval flow. It's quite minor but it affects how the map looks like. Slightly adjust the position of circle 2,3,4 I remapped this part to have stacked triples, as you suggested in your last paragraph.
00:06:411 (8) - In fact, this tick catches little attention from players. You can try to remove the whistle hitsound and the whole feeling of this stream is still the same. For me, you should keep your rhythm arrangement on 00:06:103 (6,7,8) - similar to 00:05:692 (3,4,5) - because they share similar emphasis structure. The jump between 00:06:205 (7,8) - and that drum-whistle are kinda redundant. The real emphasis (and jump) should be at 00:06:411 (8,9) - instead. The problem about this part is the sound on (00:06:308 - ) being so weak, that it would mess up the emphasis if I were to apply this suggestion. It's true that it might be easy to be overlooked by players, but the rhythm simply doesn't allow anything else here. I will still apply the hitsound related points though.
00:08:569 (1,2,3) - Mute slidertails. Those slidertail hitnormals don't fit the music. Done
00:15:966 (5,6,7,8) - This pattern is just too general. To follow the music more properly, you may generate a special rotate (or something else special) pattern for 00:16:171 (6,7,8) - . 00:15:966 (5) - is just not in the instrument structure of this part, so turning it into a circle to leave more space for the following pattern could be a nice choice. I'm finding a way to fix these patterns and make them more consistent throughout the map.
00:22:541 (5,1,2,3) - ^ as a similar music section, this one at least present differences between the first slider and the following three (vertical vs. horizontal), which should be applied to other similar situations.
00:37:678 (6,7) - This one looks a bit random when it is so close to another similar structure 00:36:856 (2,3) - while not in pair with it or in other discernible design. You should understand that a blanket on a slightly distant object is very easy to be overlooked. Same as 00:37:267 (4,5) - I will find a more appropriate way to map this pair.
00:39:185 (6,7,8,9) - Move them as a whole to 316,192 (where circle 6 should be locate after the movement) There would be a really ugly overlap with 1, but I'll try to restructure this part, so it can work out.
00:45:144 (3,5,7) - a rather random design for me. Do you want to make them more neat by a bit? I placed 5 between 3 and 7 to fix this.
In fact, there're many small factors that I think affect the overall quality of this map. Let me illustrate some of them:
Slightly tilted and curved sliders like 00:32:815 (8) - , 00:37:336 (5,7) - , 01:01:171 (1) - , 01:02:815 (1) - , etc can easily make your map look a bit random, especially when they're presenting an unnatural flow like 01:02:610 (7,8,1) - , 01:10:007 (4,5,6) - (there're actually two upward curves in this flow), 01:35:076 (6,7,8,9) - (the flow could be more natural with more curved slider, but not the current one).
^ Same for streams, for both short ones and long: 00:49:459 (9,10,1) - , 00:51:103 (10,11,1) - (only flowing, not presenting any kind of pattern), 00:57:678 (10,11,1,2) - (only flowing, and unnatural by a bit), etc.
Random overlaps like 00:52:336 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - . This is maybe under design, but it's not designed very neatly I have to say.
Unpolished design like 00:38:158 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - . You have already presented something regular (00:38:158 (1,2,4) - ), but you just destroy the regular impression then by a random jump from 5->6;
tl;dr: Some aesthetic design is kinda unpolished and unnatural. I'd admit that this map has a lot of nice design that is worth nomination, but the overall aesthetic thing in this map should be adjusted to fit the quality of a nice instrumental map. I will go over the map's aesthetics as a whole again and try to redo them to hopefully fit higher quality standards, while taking these points into consideration.

Tips: When you're making patterns that are just for flow, making them more regular will probably gain a nice impression. For example, stacked or linear triplets, or triplets for blanket, to replace those random curved tilted triplets. Besides, you may pay more attention to the music and follow its characteristic to make a special pattern. Of course you have many other choices other than regular patterns to achieve your intended expression, but this tip is prepared just in case you don't make up one temporarily.
That's all. Good luck~

Thank you very much for the mod!

_Stan

Beatmap Nominator

777 posts

Joined June 2012

_Stan 2017-06-09T05:17:07+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
Hi there. M4M request from the Pigeon Queue.

[Stan's Hard]
整个diff的默认clap听起来就和臭了的哨子一样，有的人喜欢，有的人就不那么喜欢了= =。尤其是00:11:856 - 之前的和01:39:391 - 之后的所有拍都没有鼓音基础，还有不少是连续拍，听起来感觉蛮刺耳的。
01:17:610 (5,6) - Compared to other jumps in this diff, this one looks like not following any certain thing. Ctrl+G at 01:18:021 (6) -
01:18:432 (7,1) - Jump could be placed between these two notes instead, or between 01:18:637 (1,2) - (with switching the NC).
01:48:021 (2,1) - 01:51:308 (3,1) - 安静部分的跳是否值得比kiai里的跳还要大很多？我觉得不要
最后加一个转盘和其它难度统一时间结尾吧
That's all. Good luck~

Thanks Flourite Dalao~ All fixed and add HSs

UPDATE 06/09

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 68980
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 13500,43089,56240,65692
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.4

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Title:Greening
TitleUnicode:Greening
Artist:Nekomata Master
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master
Creator:Lulu-
Version:Stan's Hard
Source:pop'n music 12 いろは CS
Tags:raindrops popn 19 TUNE STREET Iroha portable Naoyuki Sato Nokashi _Stan Firetruck Gabe Veus
BeatmapID:1126892
BeatmapSetID:530173

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:6
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newton-

Beatmap Nominator

670 posts

Joined February 2015

newton- 2017-11-01T11:13:48+00:00

hi dad

this remap makes me n U T :weary: :sweat_drops:

[tranquility]

od 8.5 could work, ppl might notelock on the 1/6s
00:19:459 (3) - why the f cuk isnt this clickable, 00:18:637 (3,4,3,4) - are much weaker sounds and they have clickability, so having this as a kickslider makes it feel less intense than the previous ones having the previous ones as kicksliders and this as 2 notes would b cooler tb h
00:25:007 (1,2,1) - space these out more, these look like 1/4s
00:26:240 (4) // 00:32:815 (4) - should b nced for consistency with shit like 00:21:514 (1,2,3,1) - , i get that the latter's a downbeat but itd be nice to have a consistent visual pattern going on. also some people disable combocolors or dont have any so having the 1/6s look as similar as possible without discrepancies is important to prevent misreads
00:26:651 (1,2) - would be nice having these as kicksliders to better emphasize the new buzzy sound in the bg + rhythm between these is more easily readable since these look like those other 1/4s
00:42:678 (1) - u can probs make this look weirder / more edgy since the sound on it stands out a lot compared to the others before it
00:52:336 (7,1) - nani the fuck is this overlap, literally the only one in the map :c. having 1 blanket 7 would probs b better (copypaste 1's shape and replace 2 too if u do this)
01:06:514 (2,4,6) - force of habit on my end but triangle here maybe
01:37:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - symmetry where
01:45:555 (1,2,3,4,5) - following implied sliderflow would probably make this section feel calmer compared to the rest of the map, which is what the song does too anyway
01:50:076 (9,10,1) - spacing should be switched here, (10,1) is much louder than (9,10)
01:55:007 (4) - rotate by like 10 degrees so that 01:55:007 (4,1) - looks more circular

good luck!

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-11-01T19:44:21+00:00

newton- wrote:
[tranquility]
od 8.5 could work, ppl might notelock on the 1/6s pp
00:19:459 (3) - why the f cuk isnt this clickable, 00:18:637 (3,4,3,4) - are much weaker sounds and they have clickability, so having this as a kickslider makes it feel less intense than the previous ones having the previous ones as kicksliders and this as 2 notes would b cooler tb h i prefer having the slider here because of the way i map the flute in other parts. imo the spacing is enough to make up for the intensity
00:25:007 (1,2,1) - space these out more, these look like 1/4s huh i'm using the same low spacing for 1/6s throughout the map, the difference should be noticable
00:26:240 (4) // 00:32:815 (4) - should b nced for consistency with shit like 00:21:514 (1,2,3,1) - , i get that the latter's a downbeat but itd be nice to have a consistent visual pattern going on. also some people disable combocolors or dont have any so having the 1/6s look as similar as possible without discrepancies is important to prevent misreads gonna ask more people about this, not sure how to handle this
00:26:651 (1,2) - would be nice having these as kicksliders to better emphasize the new buzzy sound in the bg + rhythm between these is more easily readable since these look like those other 1/4s i don't really like the feel of it tbh
00:42:678 (1) - u can probs make this look weirder / more edgy since the sound on it stands out a lot compared to the others before it v
00:52:336 (7,1) - nani the fuck is this overlap, literally the only one in the map :c. having 1 blanket 7 would probs b better (copypaste 1's shape and replace 2 too if u do this) oops fixed
01:06:514 (2,4,6) - force of habit on my end but triangle here maybe sure, was just a bit concerned about the spacing while mappign this
01:37:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - symmetry where i'm blind wtf
01:45:555 (1,2,3,4,5) - following implied sliderflow would probably make this section feel calmer compared to the rest of the map, which is what the song does too anyway ya ctrl+jed and moved down
01:50:076 (9,10,1) - spacing should be switched here, (10,1) is much louder than (9,10) fixeD
01:55:007 (4) - rotate by like 10 degrees so that 01:55:007 (4,1) - looks more circular cool
good luck!

thankkkkkKkKk uwuwu

Arphimigon

1,651 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2017-11-02T17:35:52+00:00

Lab Aesthetics Mod!

Results given in [x, y] formats
[Firetruck's Normal]
Nothing Detected!
[Gabe's Easy]
Nothing Detected!
[Nokashi's Insane]
Object at 00:00:350 - should be placed at: [31, 155] currently at: [32, 156] to move in line with slider at time 00:00:555 -
Object at 00:16:171 - should be placed at: [407, 215] currently at: [408, 216] to move in line with slider at time 00:16:788 -
Object at 00:22:747 - should be placed at: [95, 167] currently at: [96, 168] to move in line with slider at time 00:23:363 -
Object at 00:32:610 - should be placed at: [250, 195] currently at: [249, 196] to move in line with slider at time 00:33:226 -
Object at 00:49:459 - should be placed at: [426, 38] currently at: [427, 39] to move in line with slider at time 00:49:665 -
Object at 00:49:562 - should be placed at: [426, 38] currently at: [427, 39] to move in line with slider at time 00:49:665 -
Object at 01:05:486 - should be placed at: [429, 261] currently at: [428, 258] to blanket slider body at time 01:06:103 -
Object at 01:18:021 - should be placed at: [421, 353] currently at: [422, 352] to move in line with slider at time 01:17:610 -
Object at 01:40:213 - should be placed at: [295, 359] currently at: [296, 360] to move in line with slider at time 01:39:802 -
[Stan's Hard]
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[Tranquility]
Object at 00:06:103 - should be placed at: [362, 165] currently at: [363, 166] to move in line with slider at time 00:06:206 -
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Object at 00:59:117 - should be placed at: [307, 112] currently at: [310, 113] to blanket slider body at time 00:59:528 -
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Object at 01:11:754 - should be placed at: [302, 192] currently at: [303, 193] to move in line with slider at time 01:11:856 -
Object at 01:13:397 - should be placed at: [70, 230] currently at: [71, 229] to move in line with slider at time 01:13:500 -
Object at 01:14:733 - should be placed at: [362, 256] currently at: [363, 257] to move in line with slider at time 01:14:939 -
Object at 01:15:350 - should be placed at: [325, 336] currently at: [326, 337] to move in line with slider at time 01:15:555 -
Object at 01:18:329 - should be placed at: [333, 163] currently at: [334, 162] to move in line with slider at time 01:18:432 -
Object at 01:24:904 - should be placed at: [292, 234] currently at: [293, 233] to move in line with slider at time 01:25:007 -
Object at 01:33:534 - should be placed at: [389, 28] currently at: [390, 29] to move in line with slider at time 01:33:637 -
Object at 01:33:843 - should be placed at: [139, 210] currently at: [140, 211] to move in line with slider at time 01:34:048 -
Object at 01:33:945 - should be placed at: [166, 208] currently at: [167, 209] to move in line with slider at time 01:34:048 -
Object at 01:35:144 - should be placed at: [433, 295] currently at: [434, 296] to move in line with slider at time 01:35:281 -
Object at 01:35:213 - should be placed at: [434, 283] currently at: [435, 284] to move in line with slider at time 01:35:281 -
Implementation for seeing stacked objects hasn't been done yet, so anything related to those will likely be off.

have fun oop

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-11-03T00:16:29+00:00

gave kds because i really needed this lol

Fu Xuan

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined September 2015

Fu Xuan 2017-11-30T10:41:54+00:00

woaoa

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-11-30T10:48:33+00:00

-Aqua wrote:
woaoa

henlo

Aurele

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Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-12-04T05:46:11+00:00

Gabe's Easy

osu file format v14

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hi sorry.

@F D Flourite: 00:51:308 (3,1) - I will keep these two as the end of the slider (3) makes an holding point for the next slider to be caught, which makes it enjoyable.
00:11:856 (2) - Making this different would kill the intention. This slider ends on a big beat before catching the next circle, and I would prefer keeping it as it creates an harmony with the current slider and the next object.
00:59:117 (1) - I like this one. I tried your suggestion and I'm not sure how great it goes with the pattern..

thank you!

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-12-07T06:43:18+00:00

update bug is annoying

@Nokashi
You can try to play the convert of highest diff. It's interesting (with HR)

[Tranquility]

HP down to 6 for HR thanks :3
00:14:630 (7,8,1,2,3) - This is the first introduction of 1/4 jump to 1/6 stream. Distance should be shorter for players to react properly. Try to rearrange placement of 00:14:117 (4,5,6,7,8) - to make the distance look ok
00:21:206 (7,8) - should move above. current design is a little bit cramped with 00:20:897 (6) - . BTW you should check its slope since it's now not parallel with 00:20:897 (6) -
01:23:158 (4,5,6) - not sure if it should be move downward, but you should make it straight at least. The current curve seems quite unintentional
yeah even tho this is a copy-paste diff, it looks much better than the previous version

no kd

Aurele

Global Moderator

7,514 posts

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-12-07T07:39:36+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
update bug is annoying

don't mind it

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-12-08T21:54:54+00:00

owo

F D Flourite wrote:
update bug is annoying ya

[Tranquility]
HP down to 6 for HR thanks :3 ok dad
00:14:630 (7,8,1,2,3) - This is the first introduction of 1/4 jump to 1/6 stream. Distance should be shorter for players to react properly. Try to rearrange placement of 00:14:117 (4,5,6,7,8) - to make the distance look ok stacked 7 and 8 on top of 3
00:21:206 (7,8) - should move above. current design is a little bit cramped with 00:20:897 (6) - . BTW you should check its slope since it's now not parallel with 00:20:897 (6) - stacked the same way as above, fixed slider
01:23:158 (4,5,6) - not sure if it should be move downward, but you should make it straight at least. The current curve seems quite unintentional straightened the pattern, should be fine now
yeah even tho this is a copy-paste diff, it looks much better than the previous version thank
no kd

thanks a lot for the recheck! ~~rank when~~

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-12-12T01:41:36+00:00

again, rechecking. won't be too many things

[Gabe's Easy]

00:23:363 (1) - I'd like to see it shortened by 1/2 length (And 1/1 as a whole because of the reverse) to snap on actual sounds. Then add a circle at 00:25:007 - .
00:46:377 - I think a hitsound could be here? a little bland for now
00:59:117 (1) - didn't see this fixed but there was something in your reply... did I misunderstand anything?
01:19:254 (1,2) - fix blanket
01:40:623 (2,1) - 01:53:774 (1,1) - would appreciate if you increase a bit of distance to avoid nasty overlap

[Stan's Hard]

00:17:610 (3,4) - nasty distance
01:11:034 (5) - NC
01:17:610 (5) - ^ A combo shouldn't be too long during kiai section
01:23:774 (4) - sudden direction/spacing change seems unexpected
01:58:706 (1) - x272 y252 should be better. The antiflow choice is harsh during this section

[Nokashi's Insane]

00:30:349 - hitsound?
01:38:569 (7) - ctrl+G. spacing is overall not that short in this section

Nokashi

304 posts

Joined December 2014

Nokashi 2017-12-13T22:19:52+00:00

To sum up

Fixed the ctrl g, @lulu please apply the hitsound point for me!
Also did some changes in patterning here 01:25:829 - to better reflect the music pitch, after a testplay Riven did. So thanks to him too!
Fixed the circle placement 01:12:473 (8) - here as suggested in your first mod. It does play better now, thanks!

Here's the code

osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:çŒ«å‰Master
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_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-17T03:30:02+00:00

Gabe

00:11:034 (1) - Add hitsound addition so players don't confuse it for the piano beat that occurs on the red tick
01:06:103 (1) - Ending this spinner at 01:07:747 would be nice to give the player a bit more recovery time
01:40:623 (2,1) - I would prefer it if you carried on using x1 spacing for your 1/1 beats. The visual spacing has already been established for these beats. Using overlaps are harder to read more especially here because they only occur twice at the end of the map which would leave beginners confused as to what beat gap it could be. It would also make it neater and more clean overall. Same for 01:53:774 (1,1)
The final spinner seems to be mapped somewhat awkwardly to me. How about ending it with a spinner starting from 01:59:117 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783007

Firetruck

00:06:103 (6) - Try replacing this with 2 circles. It would create some nice variety in the rhythm rather than the same slider > circle > slider spam. The music is also a bit different here as well so it's kinda asking for it
01:12:268 (6,1) - This stack sticks out like a sore thumb cos you only use it here
01:14:322 (4,5,6) - Would make more sense if these had the same rhythm
01:53:774 (3,4) - This rhythm feels a bit too awkward to me. How about this? https://i.imgur.com/zAKPEP2.png
00:43:089 - For this section the rhythm you've used doesn't particular match up with any of the instruments overall. They mix and match. I feel like you're trying to follow the electronic melody so what do you think about using this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/6idz6CN.png or something similar? 00:43:089 (1) - is the first object in the pic

Hard

Increase hitsounds in the beginning, I can barely hear them. 25% is sooo low
I would prefer it if you replaced all your kicksliders (1/4 sliders) with circles. Imho they don't do a good job at highlighting the melody as the sound is on the slider end (blue tick). Making them into circles would also make it more like a hard diff and a healthier spread/ easier to recognise and more friednly for hard diff players
00:15:555 (3) - ok so all sounds like this, 01:11:445 (6) - 01:18:021 (6) - etc (it occurs everywhere). Imho these would be better as 1/1 sliders. It follows the rhythm of the song better and lowers the object density. It's similar to sounds like 00:13:500 (1) - so I don't see it ideal to map it any other way
01:21:925 (2) - 1/4 reverse slider to map the blue tick?
01:58:706 (1) - I would prefer it if you didn't use spacing this big. Really high compared to the jumps you've used in the rest of the map and this is in the calm section.

Nokashi

00:06:206 (4,5,6) - Would be better if you could make the spacing between the tail of 4 and the head of 5 relatively small to the spacing of 00:06:719 (6) . This would avoid all ambiguity of 6 being 1/4 beat apart. Yes there is a spacing different atm but it doesn't look too different and with the way that a lot of people expect same beat snaps with objects that are structurally similar in spacing it does come off as ambiguous imho. I was thinking something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783193 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783243
00:26:034 (8) - With the way things are structured at the moment no one is going to sightread this as a double reverse slider
00:42:678 (1) - can you use the same spacing as 00:55:829 (4) ? When you lower the SV as well make 1/4 beats spaced it comes off as doing to much to reflect a part in the song. There would also be consistency in reflecting the same element in the song. Same for 01:08:980 (1) -
00:55:829 (4) - NC to signify decrease in SV
01:01:171 (1,2,3) - Highly recommend for you to not lower the SV here. It feels really forced when following the song and it's also inconsitent with 00:48:021 (6,7,8) . No real reason to start making sliders look like kicksliders here imho
01:27:267 (2) - Same as 00:26:034 (8)
01:35:076 (2) - ^
01:21:925 (2) - ^
00:39:185 (2) - ^ Actually, because these appear so often I don't even know if it's an issue anymore.
01:57:062 (1,1,1) - Just my opinion but these would play better if they were spaced across the screen. Considering how this entire section uses fluid motion and avoids stacks apart from 01:41:856 (6) -

Lewdlu

01:39:802 (5,6) - Straight sliders would look better here imo because of the low SV and how you structured the rest of the map
01:46:377 (5,6) - ^
01:58:706 (1) - Would be a good spot to add in at least one spinner in the map, up to you though

[]
@F D Flourite I think the rhythm in the Easy at 00:59:117 (1) is good because it follows the melody. Imo at least. Also let me bubble this first because I can't qualify maps

[]I spend too much time modding

Lulu-

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Lulu- 2017-12-17T04:47:41+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Lewdlu
01:39:802 (5,6) - Straight sliders would look better here imo because of the low SV and how you structured the rest of the map changed
01:46:377 (5,6) - ^ ^
01:58:706 (1) - Would be a good spot to add in at least one spinner in the map, up to you though actually, this slider is a subtle reference to the album's name this song originated from, "raindrops", so i'm not changing this. (also there's a spinner at the end of the kiai)

it's happening wtf

Last edited by Lulu- 2017-12-18T03:17:30+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

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Lulu- 2017-12-17T04:48:02+00:00

oops

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_Stan 2017-12-17T05:23:50+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
again, rechecking. won't be too many things
[Stan's Hard]
00:17:610 (3,4) - nasty distance
01:11:034 (5) - NC
01:17:610 (5) - ^ A combo shouldn't be too long during kiai section
01:23:774 (4) - sudden direction/spacing change seems unexpected
01:58:706 (1) - x272 y252 should be better. The antiflow choice is harsh during this section

all fixed, thanks so much!

Kisses wrote:
Hard
Increase hitsounds in the beginning, I can barely hear them. 25% is sooo low | fixed
I would prefer it if you replaced all your kicksliders (1/4 sliders) with circles. Imho they don't do a good job at highlighting the melody as the sound is on the slider end (blue tick). Making them into circles would also make it more like a hard diff and a healthier spread/ easier to recognise and more friednly for hard diff players| nope, I think it's ok
00:15:555 (3) - ok so all sounds like this, 01:11:445 (6) - 01:18:021 (6) - etc (it occurs everywhere). Imho these would be better as 1/1 sliders. It follows the rhythm of the song better and lowers the object density. It's similar to sounds like 00:13:500 (1) - so I don't see it ideal to map it any other way | fixed some parts
01:21:925 (2) - 1/4 reverse slider to map the blue tick? | nope
01:58:706 (1) - I would prefer it if you didn't use spacing this big. Really high compared to the jumps you've used in the rest of the map and this is in the calm section. | fixed

thanks so much

UPDATE

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Nokashi

304 posts

Joined December 2014

Nokashi 2017-12-17T12:16:59+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Nokashi
00:06:206 (4,5,6) - Would be better if you could make the spacing between the tail of 4 and the head of 5 relatively small to the spacing of 00:06:719 (6) . This would avoid all ambiguity of 6 being 1/4 beat apart. Yes there is a spacing different atm but it doesn't look too different and with the way that a lot of people expect same beat snaps with objects that are structurally similar in spacing it does come off as ambiguous imho. I was thinking something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783193 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783243 // Good suggestion, applied somewhat to your screenshot, hope its okay like this
00:26:034 (8) - With the way things are structured at the moment no one is going to sightread this as a double reverse slider // Tried something different, hope thats okay
00:42:678 (1) - can you use the same spacing as 00:55:829 (4) ? When you lower the SV as well make 1/4 beats spaced it comes off as doing to much to reflect a part in the song. There would also be consistency in reflecting the same element in the song. Same for 01:08:980 (1) - // Alright
00:55:829 (4) - NC to signify decrease in SV // Yup
01:01:171 (1,2,3) - Highly recommend for you to not lower the SV here. It feels really forced when following the song and it's also inconsitent with 00:48:021 (6,7,8) . No real reason to start making sliders look like kicksliders here imho // yee
01:27:267 (2) - Same as 00:26:034 (8)
01:35:076 (2) - ^
01:21:925 (2) - ^ // well this actually doesnt overlap into anything so its perfectly readable to me
00:39:185 (2) - ^ Actually, because these appear so often I don't even know if it's an issue anymore. // Fixed all the above except mentioned
01:57:062 (1,1,1) - Just my opinion but these would play better if they were spaced across the screen. Considering how this entire section uses fluid motion and avoids stacks apart from 01:41:856 (6) - // Aight

Regarding those double reverses, theres no way for me to differentiate them any better from removing them from stacking on top of other notes. The nature of the song itself doesnt let me subtly introduce them so i just had to compromise

Also did some self modding!

Update

osu file format v14

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P.S Lulu dont forget to fix that hitsound point before updating!

Aurele

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Aurele 2017-12-19T05:25:49+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Gabe
00:11:034 (1) - Add hitsound addition so players don't confuse it for the piano beat that occurs on the red tick added a normal one
01:06:103 (1) - Ending this spinner at 01:07:747 would be nice to give the player a bit more recovery time sure
01:40:623 (2,1) - I would prefer it if you carried on using x1 spacing for your 1/1 beats. The visual spacing has already been established for these beats. Using overlaps are harder to read more especially here because they only occur twice at the end of the map which would leave beginners confused as to what beat gap it could be. It would also make it neater and more clean overall. Same for 01:53:774 (1,1) kinda fixed that with Flourite's mod
The final spinner seems to be mapped somewhat awkwardly to me. How about ending it with a spinner starting from 01:59:117 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9783007 I love how you formulated that, but no. I'd rather keep this slider as it's covering the drumroll part from this moment.
@F D Flourite I think the rhythm in the Easy at 00:59:117 (1) is good because it follows the melody. Imo at least. Also let me bubble this first because I can't qualify maps exactlyyy
[]I spend too much time modding

thank youu Kisses.

@F D Flourite: Applied everything except that one part again, in which Kisses answered.

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osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:Greening
Artist:Nekomata Master
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master
Creator:Lulu-
Version:Gabe's Easy
Source:pop'n music 12 いろは
Tags:raindrops popn Iroha TUNE STREET portable Naoyuki Sato Nokashi _Stan Firetruck Gabe Veus Celektus
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Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-12-25T22:47:32+00:00

wake me up when ~~september~~ the wait for firetruck's normal ends

edit: applying for firetruck

Kisses wrote:
Firetruck
00:06:103 (6) - Try replacing this with 2 circles. It would create some nice variety in the rhythm rather than the same slider > circle > slider spam. The music is also a bit different here as well so it's kinda asking for it done
01:12:268 (6,1) - This stack sticks out like a sore thumb cos you only use it here unstacked
01:14:322 (4,5,6) - Would make more sense if these had the same rhythm changed 5 and 6 to a reverse slider
01:53:774 (3,4) - This rhythm feels a bit too awkward to me. How about this? https://i.imgur.com/zAKPEP2.png applied
00:43:089 - For this section the rhythm you've used doesn't particular match up with any of the instruments overall. They mix and match. I feel like you're trying to follow the electronic melody so what do you think about using this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/6idz6CN.png or something similar? 00:43:089 (1) - is the first object in the pic applied

everything is ready to go now!

edit 2: hold up i'm trying to fix the update bug first

edit 3: celerih was apparently once told to ignore the bug on a map with the same issue, i guess we're good to go again

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-28T19:47:16+00:00

Normal
00:48:843 (6) - offscreen

Nokashi wrote:
well this actually doesnt overlap into anything so its perfectly readable to me

it wasn't about the overlap it was about the double reverse

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-28T19:48:22+00:00

fk i made a new post by accident, just fix the thing in normal and call me back

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-12-28T23:29:35+00:00

fixing once i have access to a pc

edit: fixed

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-29T14:58:12+00:00

edit: I'm a girl

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-12-29T14:59:15+00:00

i'm GAY

Nokashi

304 posts

Joined December 2014

Nokashi 2017-12-29T15:03:17+00:00

Holy crap

Senko-san

826 posts

Joined November 2012

Senko-san 2017-12-29T15:10:49+00:00

its time?

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-12-30T02:19:42+00:00

fixing some colorhax issues that i didn't notice until now in easy, normal and insane and a very minor hs thing in top diff

Uta

966 posts

Joined December 2016

Uta 2017-12-30T06:20:22+00:00

wow i actually played this map a while ago. nice to see it got bubbled

conngrats!

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2017-12-31T05:10:19+00:00

Uta wrote:
wow i actually played this map a while ago. nice to see it got bubbled

conngrats!

o wow thank i never knew people play this garbage

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2018-01-06T06:58:18+00:00

1500x800 BG size is weird. It'd better to be fixed to regular ratio, for example 16:9, 16:10 or whatsoever. Now it's 15:8

no kd

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2018-01-06T07:32:56+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
1500x800 BG size is weird. It'd better to be fixed to regular ratio, for example 16:9, 16:10 or whatsoever. Now it's 15:8

no kd

changed to 1080p

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2018-01-07T17:24:01+00:00

[stan's hard]

01:58:911 - you can add a spinner at the end to keep ending time consistent

[Tranquility]

A redundant red line is on 0:00:000 - , which is not good. Please remove it.

Call Kisses for rebub (for the red line), then call me back.

Lulu-

409 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Lulu- 2018-01-08T03:56:07+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
[Tranquility]
A redundant red line is on 0:00:000 - , which is not good. Please remove it.
lol fixed

Call Kisses for rebub (for the red line), then call me back.

how does this happen

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

xLolicore- 2018-01-12T03:57:35+00:00

call for kisses monkaS

Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 2018-01-13T19:28:10+00:00

did some cute work with more colours.
The map like a flowerfield with a lot of green and cute colourful flowers popping up :3c

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link

00:25:829 (1,2,3,4) - made this look a bit more accaptable

seems gud now

_Stan

Beatmap Nominator

777 posts

Joined June 2012

_Stan 2018-01-15T13:43:57+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
[stan's hard]
01:58:911 - you can add a spinner at the end to keep ending time consistent
ok~

update

osu file format v14

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Artist:Nekomata Master
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master
Creator:Lulu-
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