Black Hole - Pluto [CatchTheBeat] · forum

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2017-12-30T21:54:43+00:00

Happy birthday

[

General]

Metadata: Sinnoh needs adding to tags across all difficulties except Basic
Hitsound Issues: drum-hitnormal seems rather quiet, might help to increase the volume of it or use an alternative sample, it can be quite hard to notice during gameplay
Other: Sanyi's Beginner and Ascennoh's Basic seem to be using different timing points than all the other diffs

[

Sanyi's Beginner]

00:01:904 (5) - Not the biggest fan of representing 00:02:504 - with a slider tail, it's quite a strong beat that doesn't get represented well with the little movement required on this slider. A bit more movement on this slider for the tail would help add a bit of emphasis to this sound. Same for 00:04:304 (4) - and 00:06:704 (4) -
00:23:648 (2,3,4,1) - 00:25:735 (2,3,4,1) - These two patterns play very similarly and they're back to back so it feels a bit repetitive. Would be nice to add a bit more variety here probably through an additional direction change somewhere
01:08:056 (1) - Don't think a spinner is a good fit here. I don't think it matches up with the sound well and it's quite short in duration, players may struggle to react in time before the spinner is pretty much over

[

Ascennoh's Basic]

[Collab kid 1]

00:26:257 (4,5) - This distance is a bit ambiguous and considering it leads in to a dash I'd nerf this to be a more comfortable walk

[Collab kid 2]
01:09:146 - Sliders are broke here until about 01:15:556 -, they're all extended somewhat

[

ZiRoX's Difficult]

01:31:461 (6,1) - These quick little direction changes are challenging at this level so I'd reduce the distance between these two to add some leniency
01:39:333 (1) - Probably want to silence the hitsound at the end of this spinner

[

Collab Hyper]

[Collab1]

00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - This is a tricky pattern to hit at this level after the antiflow hyper from 00:14:340 (3) - , I'd suggest to really nerf this
[Collab 2]
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - This antiflow spam is a bit sudden, little bit of an unnecessary difficulty spike. I'd suggest to at least remove the antiflow between 01:06:856 (1,2) -
[Collab 3]
01:29:117 (5,6) - This little spacing increase is a bit awkward to play. Moving across 01:28:997 (4,5,6) - requires you to go a variety of speeds in the same direction, it would help to make the gap between these closer to 1.0x DS so it follows on from the slider nicely
01:39:333 (1) - Same point as in the Platter about silencing the hitsound on this spinner

[

Razor's Black Another]

00:13:385 (1) - Seems odd to end this slider so soon, I'd extend it another tick to replace 00:13:794 (2) -
00:22:996 (3,4) - Not hearing anything worth a hyper here, I think you should use the same approach you used for 00:18:822 (3,4) - and 00:20:909 (2,3) -
00:26:778 - to 00:32:778 - Distancing in this section is very low, little movement is required to hit this part outside of the hyperdashes. I'd recommend buffing the distances used and possibly a higher SV too
00:58:756 (1) - It's not clear what this spinner is intended to be following here, it covers a few strong notes too. I think it would be better to remove this and map the sounds starting at 00:59:656 -
01:21:010 (1,1) - This sudden 1/8 jump is a bit unexpected, I'd stick with 1/4 for this like the other sliders
01:26:237 - The SV gets crazy high here, I get this is the hardest part of the song but I think the SV is too high. It suddenly requires a very dash heavy playstyle and makes antiflow movements like 01:34:888 (1,2,3,4) - particularly challenging. I'd suggest to nerf the SV in this ending section a bit as it's a very big difficulty spike as it is now, more so than the song calls for

[

Hyperion's Expert]

00:12:976 (5,6,7) - Emphasis should really be placed on 00:13:385 (6) - not 00:13:522 (7) - with a dash like at 00:11:067 (7,8) -
00:51:910 - Looks like something went wrong with the SV here, sliders are all extended a little until 00:54:774 -

[

Challenge]

01:37:222 (8,1) - This is really tricky to hit, it's quite tricky to time right after the rapid hypers just before it. Nerfing the distance a bit would be propa sik

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-12-31T00:42:50+00:00

@Sorcerer: Fixed emphasis and borked SV, also tidied up some hitsounding where my diff used/didn't use extended sliders and some 1/6

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Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-12-31T12:05:20+00:00

Sorcerer wrote:
[ Sanyi's Beginner]
00:01:904 (5) - Not the biggest fan of representing 00:02:504 - with a slider tail, it's quite a strong beat that doesn't get represented well with the little movement required on this slider. A bit more movement on this slider for the tail would help add a bit of emphasis to this sound. Same for 00:04:304 (4) - and 00:06:704 (4) - I added a bit more movement to the sliders, I want to keep the sliders since otherwise the intro would have only circles which is AAAAAAAAA and since the slidertails are the points where the horizontal movement gets increased again I think that the beats are not too bad emphasized
00:23:648 (2,3,4,1) - 00:25:735 (2,3,4,1) - These two patterns play very similarly and they're back to back so it feels a bit repetitive. Would be nice to add a bit more variety here probably through an additional direction change somewhere Changed it, hopefully it is better now
01:08:056 (1) - Don't think a spinner is a good fit here. I don't think it matches up with the sound well and it's quite short in duration, players may struggle to react in time before the spinner is pretty much over Exchanged the spinner with a single note at the start and a single note at the end of the spinner

Thanks for modding!

@Ascendance I added Sinnoh to the tags of my diff. Can you take a look at the timing thingy that Tom pointed out?

Sanyi's Beginner

osu file format v14

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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Pluto
TitleUnicode:Pluto
Artist:Black Hole
ArtistUnicode:Black∞Hole
Creator:Ascendance
Version:Sanyi's Beginner
Source:DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2
Tags:beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED Hareimu JBHyperion JBH ZiRoX Razor Sharp Arthas Sanyi Sinnoh
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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2017-12-31T14:40:40+00:00

Ultimate Replyer Man

Sorcerer wrote:
Happy birthday

[ General]
Metadata: Sinnoh needs adding to tags across all difficulties except Basic Fixed
Hitsound Issues: drum-hitnormal seems rather quiet, might help to increase the volume of it or use an alternative sample, it can be quite hard to notice during gameplay Give me some time with this but it should be all set by the time it's ready
Other: Sanyi's Beginner and Ascennoh's Basic seem to be using different timing points than all the other diffs I have brain damage
[ Ascennoh's Basic]

[Collab kid 1]
00:26:257 (4,5) - This distance is a bit ambiguous and considering it leads in to a dash I'd nerf this to be a more comfortable walk Sure

[Collab kid 2]
01:09:146 - Sliders are broke here until about 01:15:556 -, they're all extended somewhat Gonna have to blame sinnoh on this one
[ ZiRoX's Difficult]
01:31:461 (6,1) - These quick little direction changes are challenging at this level so I'd reduce the distance between these two to add some leniency Sure, but not that much, it felt fine to me
01:39:333 (1) - Probably want to silence the hitsound at the end of this spinner Agree
[ Collab Hyper]

[Collab1]
00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - This is a tricky pattern to hit at this level after the antiflow hyper from 00:14:340 (3) - , I'd suggest to really nerf this Didn't seem to be a huge issue to me but I'm okay with nerfing it a tiny bit if you're adamant about it.
[Collab 2]
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - This antiflow spam is a bit sudden, little bit of an unnecessary difficulty spike. I'd suggest to at least remove the antiflow between 01:06:856 (1,2) - Agree, changed stuff here
[Collab 3]
01:29:117 (5,6) - This little spacing increase is a bit awkward to play. Moving across 01:28:997 (4,5,6) - requires you to go a variety of speeds in the same direction, it would help to make the gap between these closer to 1.0x DS so it follows on from the slider nicely aesthetic
01:39:333 (1) - Same point as in the Platter about silencing the hitsound on this spinner same
[ Razor's Black Another]
00:13:385 (1) - Seems odd to end this slider so soon, I'd extend it another tick to replace 00:13:794 (2) - Agreed
00:22:996 (3,4) - Not hearing anything worth a hyper here, I think you should use the same approach you used for 00:18:822 (3,4) - and 00:20:909 (2,3) - Made it more consistent
00:26:778 - to 00:32:778 - Distancing in this section is very low, little movement is required to hit this part outside of the hyperdashes. I'd recommend buffing the distances used and possibly a higher SV too While I do think this is a bit low, it's something stylistic Razor does in a few maps to create contrast so I'll keep it so as not to touch anything important.
00:58:756 (1) - It's not clear what this spinner is intended to be following here, it covers a few strong notes too. I think it would be better to remove this and map the sounds starting at 00:59:656 - Reference from the standard version, it covers the extended sound and then some
01:21:010 (1,1) - This sudden 1/8 jump is a bit unexpected, I'd stick with 1/4 for this like the other sliders Agree
01:26:237 - The SV gets crazy high here, I get this is the hardest part of the song but I think the SV is too high. It suddenly requires a very dash heavy playstyle and makes antiflow movements like 01:34:888 (1,2,3,4) - particularly challenging. I'd suggest to nerf the SV in this ending section a bit as it's a very big difficulty spike as it is now, more so than the song calls for Dropped the SV by .5
[ Challenge]
01:37:222 (8,1) - This is really tricky to hit, it's quite tricky to time right after the rapid hypers just before it. Nerfing the distance a bit would be propa sik You got it kiddo

rew0825 wrote:
Hello I'm sercet santa :3

Challenge
00:11:749 (4,1) - Between this I think it's should dash? No big increase in pitch so I kept it here
00:19:474 (1,2) - I think it look suddenly. I suggest 00:19:604 (2) - change move to left look is better? Antiflow is preferred here for big shifts
00:27:153 (4,5) - Between this I think it's should dash? Sure, fixed
00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The distance between (1,2,3) of each section should gradually increase? It's a reference to the standard map but I made some adjustments
00:47:438 (1,2) - The distance is shorter than before note. I think player will feel confused. I suggest increase the distance. Sure, fixed
00:49:047 (4) - I suggest move it to overlap 00:48:774 (2) - I think it's better play. C-Curve is nice here imo
00:53:138 (4,5) - I suggest move it to x:280 for make 00:53:001 (2,3) - and 00:53:274 (4,5) - Hdash. I think it's better play. Did some different change instead
00:55:592 (4,5,6,7) - I suggest move to x:348 for make 00:55:456 (3,4) - and 00:56:001 (7,1) - Hdash. I think it's better play. Declined this one though, I kinda like my current pattern
00:57:365 (4) - I suggest move it to overlap 00:57:228 (3) - and then ctrl+h and move it to overlap 00:57:774 (7) - for make 00:57:365 (4,5) - Hdash. I think it's better play. Edge jump B)
01:36:666 (3) - Move it to left? for make 01:36:555 (2,3,4) - flow. Intense flow here, I prefer the higher speed jumps

Sanyi wrote:

~~Not so~~ Secret Santa
Challenge
Not sure if that is still a problem but you are changing the volume with green lines at 00:00:104 - and 00:09:704 - . Not too important and I'm too lazy to change LOL
00:11:885 (1) - Underemphasized imo, a hyper would fit here imo. I replied to this above but I don't think the pitch changes, it's not very important apart from a fairly weak downbeat so I didn't emphasize it.
00:28:153 (6,1) - and 00:31:153 (6,1) - are also not remarkable enough imo. I can understand that you didn't want to make them a hyper so what about starting of every second white tick with a slider to create more remarkable rhythm? Tried giving them something more "remarkable"
The whistle hitsounds in the part starting at 00:41:438 - are pretty distracting imo and doesn't support the mapping imo. Consider changing them. @Spec
Two unsnapped green lines at 01:18:552 - (should be 01:18:556 - ) and 01:18:961 - (should be 01:18:965 - ). Yeep
01:37:222 (8,1) - I would reduce the distance a bit, it is really hard to catch imo and missing here will be really frustrating. Fixed with Sorcerer's mod
Good luck on ranking! I want my first ranked diff uwu

Thank you all friends!

(BTW I didn't post Sanyi's salad mod because things changed in the diff when I changed it into a collab and I fixed things along the way from his mod)

Sorceress

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Sorceress 2018-01-03T19:19:15+00:00

Looked over the changes (now that they're actually applied) and adjusted HP spread slightly. Happy with how everything looks so here's a cute little bubble

Chat log (Benny- is not a Bully-)

2018-01-03 18:22 Ascendance: beep boop
2018-01-03 18:22 Sorcerer: boop bep
2018-01-03 18:23 Ascendance: yea seems im retarded and did not follow up the update
2018-01-03 18:23 Ascendance: good job team
2018-01-03 18:23 Sorcerer: :D
2018-01-03 18:24 Ascendance: ok updated
2018-01-03 18:24 Ascendance: now just looking for the replacement hitsound and i think we're all set
2018-01-03 18:25 Sorcerer: so hard to play the top diff in the editor with this input lag
2018-01-03 18:28 Ascendance: ok found one
2018-01-03 18:28 Ascendance: also yes
2018-01-03 18:29 Ascendance: i had to change to play mode and break the diff into several parts
2018-01-03 18:29 Ascendance: LOL
2018-01-03 18:29 Ascendance: re-download!
2018-01-03 18:30 Sorcerer: it's slightly corrupt for me, thinks razor's and sanyi's diff belong to another set so everytime I update in game it just deletes all the objects -.-
2018-01-03 18:30 Ascendance: i can copy the osu for you
2018-01-03 18:31 Ascendance: https://ascendance.s-ul.eu/1JX4WEv5 razor
2018-01-03 18:31 Sorcerer: it's alright, I just have to redl from the site each time
2018-01-03 18:31 Ascendance: https://ascendance.s-ul.eu/CKQtgXDG sanyi
2018-01-03 18:31 Ascendance: ah
2018-01-03 18:33 Ascendance: fixed a pixel dash in razor's diff while i was at it
2018-01-03 18:33 Sorcerer: 01:21:874 (2) - snap on this in razors is off
2018-01-03 18:33 Ascendance: yep
2018-01-03 18:33 Ascendance: that was included
2018-01-03 18:33 Sorcerer: sik
2018-01-03 18:35 Ascendance: lmk if there's anything else before i updato
2018-01-03 18:37 Sorcerer: don't worry only takes me about 3 hours to look over everything :)
2018-01-03 18:37 Ascendance: tyt B)
2018-01-03 18:47 Sorcerer: alright, hitsound stuff all seems sorted
2018-01-03 18:47 Sorcerer: and timing
2018-01-03 18:47 Sorcerer: and tags
2018-01-03 18:47 Ascendance: yeet
2018-01-03 18:47 Ascendance: updating
2018-01-03 18:48 Ascendance: boop
2018-01-03 18:48 Sorcerer: and the Salad isn't 8* anymore that's cool
2018-01-03 18:48 Ascendance: LOL
2018-01-03 18:50 Sorcerer: 01:08:874 (2,1) - in sanyi's cup
2018-01-03 18:50 Sorcerer: no movement between the two :/
2018-01-03 18:51 Ascendance: fix
2018-01-03 18:54 Sorcerer: can't get over the feeling I'm missing something init
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: thats what the second bn is for xD
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: benny is also being mean to me about how you bubbled her map instead of mine
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: ?:(
2018-01-03 18:54 Ascendance: >:(
2018-01-03 18:55 Sorcerer: Bully-
2018-01-03 18:56 Ascendance: for real
2018-01-03 18:56 Ascendance: updated tho with the cup fix
2018-01-03 18:56 Sorcerer: nice one
2018-01-03 18:57 Sorcerer: nothing big but the HP spread is a bit odd
2018-01-03 18:58 Sorcerer: 6 > 5 > 7 > 6 > 7
2018-01-03 18:58 Ascendance: ill reduce on hyper
2018-01-03 18:58 Sorcerer: yeah
2018-01-03 18:58 Ascendance: gonna ask jbh about his hp right quick
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: 7 it is
2018-01-03 19:00 Sorcerer: sick, 7 is for real pros
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: ay you know it
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: hr is a disability
2018-01-03 19:00 Ascendance: updated!
2018-01-03 19:01 Sorcerer: you didnt lower hyper?
2018-01-03 19:01 Ascendance: im rtetarde.d
2018-01-03 19:01 Sorcerer: sorry map is now nuked
2018-01-03 19:02 Sorcerer: oh shit shouldn't joke like that I'll get nuked
2018-01-03 19:02 Ascendance: the end goal for osu is to have a map nuked
2018-01-03 19:02 Ascendance: fix
2018-01-03 19:04 Sorcerer: ok ok I think we're good
2018-01-03 19:04 Sorcerer: I hope we're good
2018-01-03 19:04 Sorcerer: I pray we're good
2018-01-03 19:04 Ascendance: HECK yea
2018-01-03 19:05 Ascendance: me too
2018-01-03 19:05 Ascendance: for your sake and mine

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-03T19:28:40+00:00

Thanks a lot!

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2018-01-03T19:42:48+00:00

(black) hole-y

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2018-01-03T22:57:07+00:00

Modding sinnoh salads in 2018 lol

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2018-01-04T08:00:15+00:00

Metadata pop, still need to discuss timing
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA 2' is an original game product created by Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2' is not
http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/na/am/sn2/index.html / http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/sn2/index.html

That said, would want to confirm someone if we use the Japanese game title or English.

http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/s ... p_new.html - Site lists min and max bpm at 50 and 220, but considering stuff is listed at 800bpm, it's not really reliable.
That said, most of these bpms should probably be double what they are, would probably check with the timing team because this is some weird stuff.

also add dance revolution to tags

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-04T08:05:20+00:00

accident on the metadata

absolutely 0 reason to change timing lol, i trust the timing of the previous mapset

thx for ur concerns

edit: talked with some timing people including raiden, there's no real reason to change the bpm since it works other than "the song is fast" so I'm not changing it for convenience's sake.

Bonsai

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Bonsai 2018-01-04T12:27:01+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
I'm not changing it for convenience's sake.

profound reasoning 👌

apart from that nonsense, there's a few other things to be changed:

00:48:638 - change measure to 6/4 here
01:09:146 - add timing section here with 6/4-measure
01:34:000 - ~~delet this~~ move this section to 01:33:769 -, the beat at 01:37:546 is just a dope syncopation, everything before and after that beat is still 'normal' (like at 00:22:604 and the beats afterwards are on-beat too)
this also makes the offset be not-too-late here lol
and something that might as well be irrelevant since the measure-length is already messed up by the low BPM but I'ma point it out anyways: 00:26:778 and 00:32:778 should probs be 3/4

PSA: Don't trust timings from mapsets that are more than five years old

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-04T19:05:49+00:00

PSA: trusting the last timing meant trusting the game it was originally intended for, so making baseless assumptions doesn't help anyone

all fixed for timing except for sinnoh's double bpm comments

added dance revolution to tags

Sorceress

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Sorceress 2018-01-04T23:47:50+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
Metadata pop, still need to discuss timing
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA 2' is an original game product created by Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
'DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2' is not
http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/na/am/sn2/index.html / http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/sn2/index.html

That said, would want to confirm someone if we use the Japanese game title or English.

http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/jp/am/s ... p_new.html - Site lists min and max bpm at 50 and 220, but considering stuff is listed at 800bpm, it's not really reliable.
That said, most of these bpms should probably be double what they are, would probably check with the timing team because this is some weird stuff.

also add dance revolution to tags

An empty space has been added to the source between SuperNOVA and 2 to make it clear that the source is referring to "an original game product created by Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd." and not some fictional title Ascendance delusionally dreamt up, "dance revolution" has also been added to tags

As for the game title, English looks fine considering the Japanese ver

still need to discuss timing

I was unaware there was any discussion ongoing regarding the timing on this beatmap, there doesn't appear to be anything in the thread prior to this. Either way, Bonsai's suggestions have been applied and current BPM has been given a thumbs up

If everything is satisfactory then I'm good to rebubble

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-05T00:01:23+00:00

For reference, the official score of "Pluto" can be found here http://textage.cc/score/0/pluto.html?1AC00 (with IIDX). As you can see, some BPMs were halved by the original map for the sake of convenience, and I don't think there's any giant reason to change them (Talked with Raiden about this as well who confirmed that for me).

Sorceress

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Sorceress 2018-01-05T00:32:41+00:00

Re-bubbled!

Dea ex machina

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Dea ex machina 2018-01-05T03:34:16+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
added dance revolution to tags

dance revolution is my favourite game

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-05T05:13:43+00:00

This was a useful post... stop BN abuse...

autofanboy

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autofanboy 2018-01-07T11:34:20+00:00

:b:luto is my dog

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[

General]

Update Prompt Bug

Please read t/682420 and fix the issue happened in Sanyi's Beginner and Razor's Black Another difficulties.

Tags
Add: BEAT EX (Genre of the song is SUPERNOVA2 BEAT EX)

Combo Colors
Where are the custom combo colors? Razor's Black Another and Challenge do not have the combo colors shown in the other difficulties. Also, note that the remaining difficulties do not have the same combo color settings. Perhaps it is a wise choice to keep them the same for consistency.

Overall Drain Time
Consider either removing the ending spinners in ZiRoX's Difficult and Collab Hyper, or adding ending spinners to the remaining difficulties. Doing this for the sake of having the same drain time in all difficulties.

[

Sanyi's Beginner]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:04:304 (4,1,2) - I would like to see some variety here, maybe a different pattern from 00:00:104 (1,2,3) - and 00:01:904 (5,1,2) - ? It applies to 00:06:704 (4,1,2) - as well. One possible pattern is to change it into back-and-forth movement.
01:05:656 (1,1) - Please shorten the distance, it is way too far and is way too hard for any beginners.
01:08:874 (2,1) - ^ Ambiguous distance to be fair, players may have the sense to dash as I did when I testplayed the map.

[

Ascennoh's Basic]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:00:554 (2,3) - The distance is a bit large and ambiguous here.
00:02:204 (5,1) - Reduce the distance? Quite strong, which can catch some beginners off guard to be honest.
00:08:504 (4,5) - Can be more aesthetic in the playfield, as it is quite weird to see a gap between the two sliders. Maybe change it to some short triplet stream?
00:17:340 (3,4) - Reduce the distance, very easy to miss (4).
00:26:257 (4,5,1) - Recommended to make it easier and more forgiving before the dash at (5,1). One solution is to move the tail of (4) to x position of (1), then move (5) to the right slightly.
00:36:951 (2,3,4,1) - Too many dashes going on at this part, and it may violate Ranking Criteria (check below). Perhaps you can remove the one at 00:37:473 (3,4) - to prevent risking.
Ranking Criteria wrote:
Hyperdashes of any kind are disallowed. This is to ensure a manageable step in difficulty for novice players. Difficulties may make use of basic (1/1, 1/2) regular dashing, although no type of dash can be used more than twice consecutively.
01:14:601 (3) - Incline this a bit to the horizontal or just change to a curve path for more movements.
01:15:556 (1,2) - Ambiguous distance, increase slightly to add a guaranteed dash. In addition, maybe make 01:16:510 (1,2,3) - a bit simpler (remove the dash), otherwise this part is too dense with dashes.
01:19:374 (3,1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:36:951 (2,3,4,1) - . A very close one to violating the rule because I can catch the first 2 circles by walking (edge case). But still, please reduce the distances and only place dashes on the most prominent beats. For me, I would move 01:20:465 (2) - closer to the right, possibly until 01:19:919 (1,2,3) - becomes walkable part, and then increase the distance of 01:21:010 (3,4) - so a dash is guaranteed.
01:33:991 (1) - What about putting the circle at 01:33:769 - instead and remove the original note? It seems better for emphasis.

[

ZiRoX's Difficult]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:17:817 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:15:430 (2,3) - Ambiguous distance, you may try moving 00:15:840 (3,1,2,3,4) - altogether to the right so the mentioned part becomes a walk.
01:30:077 (1,2) - Maybe add a note at 01:30:307 - and the hyperdash to the slider? It seems to be inconsistent with 00:18:431 (1,2) - that has the same rhythm.
01:31:923 (1,2) - ^
01:33:769 (1,2) - ^
01:34:102 (2,3) - Reduce the distance? It feels quite big as a dash.

[

Collab Hyper]

Unused Inherited Sections

Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - Reduce the inner distances please, it is so uncomfortable especially at 00:14:340 (3,4,5) - because of the quick turning.
01:32:269 (2,3,4,5) - Horizontal streams like these can be worked more aesthetically, it feels strange in gameplay because the inner distance of (4) is different from the others. I think it is better to keep the same distance between each note in the stream.
01:35:880 (1,2,3) - ^

[

Reimu's Another]

Difficulty Setting

How about increasing the HP to 6, considering this is an Overdose-tier map?

Gameplay
00:53:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It seems better to map it like 3-3 (hyphen representing the position of hyperdash) so the Whistle at (4) can be emphasized.
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - How about reducing the distances? A bit large to be fair, as I almost missed when I testplayed in the first go.

[

Razor's Black Another]

Gameplay

00:06:704 (6,1) - Try adding a dash here, the emphasis here can be done better like 00:01:904 (6,1) - and 00:04:304 (6,1) - .
00:15:567 (1) - Remove NC.
00:34:343 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Shouldn't this be mapped like 00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ? Feels a bit weird during testplay.
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - Pattern here should follow a 3-2 timeline where hyphen represents the position of hyperdash for consistency with 01:30:077 (1,2,3) - and also the ones in the first climax part.
01:37:102 (2,1) - If it is possible, try to add a hyperdash between them, otherwise shorten it.

[

Hyperion's Expert]

Gameplay

01:23:862 (3,4,5) - Reduce the distances between (3,4) and (4,5) by moving (4) closer slightly, I think 2 grid would be fairly enough. It is because most players may not be ready, so this can be made a bit easier, while the later bursting dash movements like 01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - can be kept.
01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - This anti-flow is really unpleasant from player's perspective. How about adding hyperdash at 01:35:879 (4,5) - by moving (3) to the left of the playfield, while keeping the same distance for 01:36:213 (5,1) - ?

[

Challenge]

Gameplay

00:27:403 (6,1,2) - Reduce the distances by moving (1) closer, I find myself keep missing here.
00:28:153 (6,1) - ^
00:28:903 (6,1) - ^
00:31:903 (6,1) - ^ Basically all the transitions have the same problem.
00:37:864 (1,2,3) - ~~yea not again~~ Reduce the distances slightly please, with the hyperdash anti-flow jump, it is even harder to catch here.
01:30:077 (1,2,3) - How about having the same distances, mathematically, distance of (1,2) = distance of (2,3)?
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - ^
01:36:324 (6,1,2) - Strange to have (6,1)'s distance larger than that of (1,2). Maybe you can change it by moving 01:36:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to the left to fix it without destroying the later-on patterning.
See if you can decrease the star rating to 6.66* for better memes

Poke me for follow-up.

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-07T20:03:40+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
:b:luto is my dog

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[ General]

Update Prompt Bug
Please read t/682420 and fix the issue happened in Sanyi's Beginner and Razor's Black Another difficulties. Fix after

Tags
Add: BEAT EX (Genre of the song is SUPERNOVA2 BEAT EX) Will apply when I get all the replies

Combo Colors
Where are the custom combo colors? Razor's Black Another and Challenge do not have the combo colors shown in the other difficulties. Also, note that the remaining difficulties do not have the same combo color settings. Perhaps it is a wise choice to keep them the same for consistency. Will fix everyone's after

Overall Drain Time
Consider either removing the ending spinners in ZiRoX's Difficult and Collab Hyper, or adding ending spinners to the remaining difficulties. Doing this for the sake of having the same drain time in all difficulties. Both of these were ZiRoX's diffs or his parts in the collab so it's up to him whether he wants to keep them or not

[ Ascennoh's Basic]

Unused Inherited Sections
Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:00:554 (2,3) - The distance is a bit large and ambiguous here. reduced
00:02:204 (5,1) - Reduce the distance? Quite strong, which can catch some beginners off guard to be honest. reduced
00:08:504 (4,5) - Can be more aesthetic in the playfield, as it is quite weird to see a gap between the two sliders. Maybe change it to some short triplet stream? aes
00:17:340 (3,4) - Reduce the distance, very easy to miss (4). sure
00:26:257 (4,5,1) - Recommended to make it easier and more forgiving before the dash at (5,1). One solution is to move the tail of (4) to x position of (1), then move (5) to the right slightly. did something different
00:36:951 (2,3,4,1) - Too many dashes going on at this part, and it may violate Ranking Criteria (check below). Perhaps you can remove the one at 00:37:473 (3,4) - to prevent risking. its technically allowed since sliders dont make them consecutive but i removed the one that you mentioned to be safe.
Ranking Criteria wrote:
Hyperdashes of any kind are disallowed. This is to ensure a manageable step in difficulty for novice players. Difficulties may make use of basic (1/1, 1/2) regular dashing, although no type of dash can be used more than twice consecutively.

[ Collab Hyper]

Unused Inherited Sections
Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
00:14:476 (4,5,6,7) - Reduce the inner distances please, it is so uncomfortable especially at 00:14:340 (3,4,5) - because of the quick turning. fixed, i think

[ Challenge]

Gameplay
00:27:403 (6,1,2) - Reduce the distances by moving (1) closer, I find myself keep missing here.
00:28:153 (6,1) - ^
00:28:903 (6,1) - ^
00:31:903 (6,1) - ^ Basically all the transitions have the same problem. They're all intended to be edge dash-y. I like the idea of making the section harder to catch while not inherently making everything a hyperdash. Hopefully I can keep it
00:37:864 (1,2,3) - ~~yea not again~~ Reduce the distances slightly please, with the hyperdash anti-flow jump, it is even harder to catch here. I did reduce this one a tiny bit though, but this part is meant to be a reference to the convert.
01:30:077 (1,2,3) - How about having the same distances, mathematically, distance of (1,2) = distance of (2,3)? Sure
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - ^ Fixed
01:36:324 (6,1,2) - Strange to have (6,1)'s distance larger than that of (1,2). Maybe you can change it by moving 01:36:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to the left to fix it without destroying the later-on patterning. Sure, I tried here
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JBHyperion 2018-01-07T20:16:28+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
[ Hyperion's Expert]

Gameplay
01:23:862 (3,4,5) - Reduce the distances between (3,4) and (4,5) by moving (4) closer slightly, I think 2 grid would be fairly enough. It is because most players may not be ready, so this can be made a bit easier, while the later bursting dash movements like 01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - can be kept. Reduced
01:29:117 (1,2,3,4) - This anti-flow is really unpleasant from player's perspective. Reduced this a bit more, but I don't think it's that bad honestly, the music definitely supports the direction changes How about adding hyperdash at 01:35:879 (4,5) - by moving (3) to the left of the playfield, while keeping the same distance for 01:36:213 (5,1) - ? Not sure how this is relevant though? (5) isn't a strong sound so I see no reason to add a hyper here. Did you mean to put something else?

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Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-01-07T22:28:33+00:00

Replying for Razor since I don't know if he's back yet (or if he wants me to stop replying for him), if he is back and wants to apply things on his own, I'll revert the changes made

alienflybot wrote:
:b:luto is my dog

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[ Razor's Black Another]

Gameplay
00:06:704 (6,1) - Try adding a dash here, the emphasis here can be done better like 00:01:904 (6,1) - and 00:04:304 (6,1) - . Fixed
00:15:567 (1) - Remove NC. Removed
00:34:343 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Shouldn't this be mapped like 00:37:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ? Feels a bit weird during testplay. Fixed
01:31:923 (1,2,3) - Pattern here should follow a 3-2 timeline where hyphen represents the position of hyperdash for consistency with 01:30:077 (1,2,3) - and also the ones in the first climax part. Did it
01:37:102 (2,1) - If it is possible, try to add a hyperdash between them, otherwise shorten it. Reduced!

Poke me for follow-up.

Hareimu

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Joined March 2014

Hareimu 2018-01-08T00:43:58+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
:b:luto is my dog

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[ Reimu's Another]

Difficulty Setting
How about increasing the HP to 6, considering this is an Overdose-tier map? sure

Gameplay
00:53:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It seems better to map it like 3-3 (hyphen representing the position of hyperdash) so the Whistle at (4) can be emphasized. I don't even know why (4) had a whistle in the first place. I'll leave it like it is for now, but removed the whistle.
01:06:856 (1,2,3,4) - How about reducing the distances? A bit large to be fair, as I almost missed when I testplayed in the first go. done

rehitsounded all the whistles and finishes myself since I don't really like how the hitsounding was done on all other diffs. Ascendance, please do not copy other diff's hitsounds into mine, thanks.

reimu's another

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ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2018-01-08T01:42:19+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
[ ZiRoX's Difficult]

Unused Inherited Sections
Remove them? For example, 00:17:817 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues. Ascendance please do this w

Gameplay
00:15:430 (2,3) - Ambiguous distance, you may try moving 00:15:840 (3,1,2,3,4) - altogether to the right so the mentioned part becomes a walk. Moved that lot to the same distance than a previous pattern (x1.8)
01:30:077 (1,2) - Maybe add a note at 01:30:307 - and the hyperdash to the slider? It seems to be inconsistent with 00:18:431 (1,2) - that has the same rhythm. I can't do this if I want to keep my Platter rankable, as this section is 130 BPM. Applies for the ^s below.
01:31:923 (1,2) - ^
01:33:769 (1,2) - ^
01:34:102 (2,3) - Reduce the distance? It feels quite big as a dash. This was fixed in a previous mod which Ascendance forgot to update, should be fixed now.

[ Collab Hyper]

Gameplay
01:32:269 (2,3,4,5) - Horizontal streams like these can be worked more aesthetically, it feels strange in gameplay because the inner distance of (4) is different from the others. I think it is better to keep the same distance between each note in the stream. Reduced the distance the most I could without taking out the hyperdash at the end of this.
01:35:880 (1,2,3) - ^ Also reduced a bit.

Thanks for the mod.

Platter Update

osu file format v14

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Artist:Black Hole
ArtistUnicode:Black∞Hole
Creator:Ascendance
Version:ZiRoX's Difficult
Source:DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA 2
Tags:beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS CS DDR dance revolution pack 3 NM SEQUENCE UNLIMITED Hareimu JBHyperion JBH ZiRoX Razor Sharp Arthas Sanyi Sinnoh
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Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2018-01-08T01:44:37+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
[ Ascennoh's Basic]

Unused Inherited Sections
Remove them? For example, 00:22:539 - . Check the map thoroughly to find out similar issues.

Gameplay
01:14:601 (3) - Incline this a bit to the horizontal or just change to a curve path for more movements. Needs to be a standstill else next movements are weird
01:15:556 (1,2) - Ambiguous distance, increase slightly to add a guaranteed dash. In addition, maybe make 01:16:510 (1,2,3) - a bit simpler (remove the dash), otherwise this part is too dense with dashes. fix
01:19:374 (3,1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:36:951 (2,3,4,1) - . A very close one to violating the rule because I can catch the first 2 circles by walking (edge case). But still, please reduce the distances and only place dashes on the most prominent beats. For me, I would move 01:20:465 (2) - closer to the right, possibly until 01:19:919 (1,2,3) - becomes walkable part, and then increase the distance of 01:21:010 (3,4) - so a dash is guaranteed. fix
01:33:991 (1) - What about putting the circle at 01:33:769 - instead and remove the original note? It seems better for emphasis. 1/1 dashes are better than 1/2 for salads, more emphasis since you dash longer

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Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2018-01-08T02:23:53+00:00

Applied everything from alienflycutie except for the first gameplay point, it suits the rest of the map as well as beginner players to stay with a more consistent pattern there.

.osu was send to ascenbaka via discord

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2018-01-08T02:42:18+00:00

Lexii

88 posts

Joined October 2015

Lexii 2018-01-08T03:54:34+00:00

yay

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,576 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2018-01-08T09:23:28+00:00

neptune is better than :b:luto

Qualified!

IRC Recheck

16:44 Ascendance: :b:lack hole
16:45 Ascendance: i didnt want 2 remove the edge dash transition
16:45 alienflybot: fuk
16:45 alienflybot: u up to irc?
16:45 Ascendance: sure
16:45 alienflybot: why zirox diff no hs
16:45 Ascendance: o yea we fixed something so i removed all the hitsounds
16:45 Ascendance: one sec
16:45 alienflybot: gya
16:45 *alienflybot is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1438740 Black Hole - Pluto [Challenge]]
16:45 alienflybot: only 1 thing, 00:31:903 (6,1) - shorten
16:45 Ascendance: ill update with the hs when i update
16:46 alienflybot: miss everytime
16:46 Ascendance: 00:32:028 (1,2) - x:238?
16:46 alienflybot: apply the similar distance of 00:27:403 (6,1) - would be fine
16:47 alienflybot: and 00:32:403 (4,5,6) - can increase a bit maybe
16:47 alienflybot: like 00:27:403 (6,1,2) - 
16:48 Ascendance: ok 00:32:528 (5) - x:208 now
16:48 alienflybot: ok
16:48 Ascendance: i also readded the hs to zirox
16:49 Ascendance: i also disabled widescreen support on some diffs lul
16:50 alienflybot: 01:18:146 (5,6) - is it possible to shorten
16:50 alienflybot: maybe a bit closer
16:50 Ascendance: try stacking 01:18:418 (6) - on 4
16:50 Ascendance: o nvm thats pixel
16:51 Ascendance: ok reduced it a tiny bit
16:51 Ascendance: dont want pixel tho
16:51 Ascendance: also added hdash between 01:21:009 (3,4) -
16:51 alienflybot: good
16:52 Ascendance: o nice i fc'd the ending
16:52 Ascendance: fuck it's not 6.66 anymore
16:52 alienflybot: 01:31:000 (1,2,3) - damn stop
16:52 alienflybot: bad in flow imo
16:52 Ascendance: 01:31:230 (3) - x:487?
16:52 alienflybot: i think you can just move 01:31:115 (2) - a bit to the left
16:53 alienflybot: but thats fine too i guess
16:53 Ascendance: cool
16:53 Ascendance: the sr is too high now to change to 6.66
16:53 Ascendance: gg
16:53 alienflybot: lmao
16:54 alienflybot: just move 01:31:000 (1,2,3) - 
16:54 alienflybot: together to the left 
16:54 alienflybot: sr back to 6.66 prob
16:54 alienflybot: gay mapper
16:54 Ascendance: i kept the repeat one anyway
16:54 Ascendance: since you're right it flowed weird
16:54 Ascendance: random stop in intense section
16:55 alienflybot: 01:36:324 (6,1,2) - actually it seems better to remove hdash at (6,1)
16:55 alienflybot: feels too early for hdash
16:56 alienflybot: NC should start at 01:36:546 (2) - maybe
16:56 Ascendance: there's a strong piano hit on 01:36:435 (1) - so that's why there's an hdash
16:56 Ascendance: i can move the nc though
16:56 alienflybot: alright
16:57 alienflybot: others fine I can fc all
16:57 Ascendance: pluto is my dog
16:57 Ascendance: kk
16:57 Ascendance: updated, double check zirox hitsounds for me
16:57 Ascendance: they should be ok now
16:58 Ascendance: o wait, let me resilence the spinner lul
16:59 alienflybot: thot
16:59 Ascendance: aaaaaaaand
16:59 Ascendance: all done!
16:59 alienflybot: unused green lines make me cringe
16:59 Ascendance: sorry B)
17:00 alienflybot: btw
17:00 *alienflybot is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1454884 Black Hole - Pluto [ZiRoX's Difficult]]
17:01 Ascendance: btw
17:01 alienflybot: hdashes cannot be added in second kiai because of the bpm rule, but it feels strange to have that less dense than the first kiai
17:01 alienflybot: maybe skip red ticks in first kiai idk
17:01 Ascendance: yea zzzzzz
17:02 alienflybot: fuk
17:02 Ascendance: dumb rule
17:02 Ascendance: we considered changing the bpm to bypass it but just too much work
17:02 alienflybot: i mean remove reverse for 00:18:431 (1) - and the later on stuff
17:02 alienflybot: in first kiai
17:02 alienflybot: so red ticks are not mapped and they remain consistent 
17:03 Ascendance: g
17:03 Ascendance: i think it should be ok but its up to you lol
17:04 Ascendance: dont think its a big issue since we added the hyper for the spread issue
17:05 alienflybot: hm
17:06 Ascendance: since the spread was bad between platter and hareimu diff lul
17:06 alienflybot: but first kiai and second kiai sounds the same
17:06 alienflybot: I think they should be kinda consistent in the timeline
17:07 Ascendance: is 2nd kiai this one 00:22:604 -
17:07 alienflybot: 00:18:431 - and 01:30:077 - 
17:07 alienflybot: the climax
17:07 Ascendance: well the hdashes are much harder in the final kiai, same with all the other diffs
17:08 alienflybot: for example the first part of the first climax https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9959691 can be mapped like 01:30:077 (1,2) - 
17:09 alienflybot: my intention is like that
17:10 Ascendance: yea but it'll remove the hdashes there since the bpm is too low
17:10 Ascendance: idk
17:10 alienflybot: fixing the distances wouldn't be too hard I think
17:10 Ascendance: it makes sense to me but i dont have a huge problem with the current timeline because the last kiai is harder with hdashes, and the first kiai is just more dense due to dumb bpm rule
17:11 Ascendance: i could have doubled the bpm to allow the hdashes but we decided it was just too much effort
17:11 alienflybot: gay for nc players
17:11 Ascendance: yea
17:11 Ascendance: exactly
17:11 Ascendance: so idk, it's up to you i guess
17:11 Ascendance: i think its fine but if you don't then i can't force you :P
17:13 alienflybot: ok
17:14 alienflybot: nothing else I think
17:14 Ascendance: kk
17:14 Ascendance: sorry for being difficult lol
17:15 alienflybot: nvm
17:15 alienflybot: 1 more
17:15 Ascendance: o
17:15 alienflybot: ayy
17:15 *alienflybot is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1454884 Black Hole - Pluto [ZiRoX's Difficult]]
17:15 alienflybot: 01:36:436 (2) - ayy whistle to reversed
17:15 alienflybot: the reverse note
17:15 Ascendance: my favorite diff
17:15 alienflybot: ye thats it
17:15 Ascendance: ok added whistle
17:15 alienflybot: update

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