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Camellia - Towards The Horizon

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 20:33:24

Artist: Camellia
Title: Towards The Horizon
Source: REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags: RB Illusiya イルシヤ 6th KONAMI Arcade Championship KAC bemani The Reflesia of Eternity asaiga underdogs yauxo sahuang chaoslitz chaoz
BPM: 154,38
Filesize: 6826kb
Play Time: 02:01
Difficulties Available:
  1. Asaiga's Easy (1,4 stars, 94 notes)
  2. Chaoz's Extra (5,56 stars, 696 notes)
  3. Normal (2,05 stars, 194 notes)
  4. sahuang's Expert (5,26 stars, 662 notes)
  5. Underdogs' Hard (3,18 stars, 344 notes)
  6. White Extra (6,21 stars, 548 notes)
  7. Yauxo's Insane (4,13 stars, 447 notes)
Download: Camellia - Towards The Horizon
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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White Extra - me
Extra - Chaoslitz
Expert - sahuang
Insane - Yauxo
Hard - Underdogs
Normal - me
Easy - Asaiga

With permission from N/A.
Original set: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/578445

Thanks :3
LMT
woah
Underdogs
SPOILER
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 80460
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.6
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.799999

[Metadata]
Title:Towards The Horizon
TitleUnicode:Towards The Horizon
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Pho
Version:Underdogs' ADVANCED
Source:REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア
Tags:RB Illusiya イルシヤ 6th KONAMI Arcade Championship KAC bemani The Reflesia of Eternity asaiga sahuang chaoslitz yauxo
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:636393

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:8
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Hello :)

HYPER

00:07:403 (1) - Fix the overlap, it's not pixel-perfect
00:21:781 (3) - Feels really empty in here. Maybe a long slider could be changed to something else?
00:36:159 (6,7) - Maybe slightly increase the distance snap so that you can get rid of the small overlap with (2)?
00:45:874 (1) - Why is the part following this circle empty? I know you are trying to follow the background flute but there are other parts in the song where you follow the beat instead.
01:05:304 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Make this pattern more linear, if you look closely the direction of it is slightly curved.
01:21:237 (1,2) - A mild design error, but I don't recommend having slider points end outside of the area of the slider.

Kiai and the part followed after it appear to be absolutely fine.

EXHAUST

00:03:322 (5,6,7) - Looks quite unattractive. How about a 120 degree pattern of these three? https://i.imgur.com/W0rP7CV.jpg
00:03:905 (1) - You are ignoring the blue tick after the end of this slider. I'd recommend to start the stream from there and not from the red tick.
00:04:683 (1,2,3,4) - I understand what you're trying to make here, but it doesn't really work after a stream, especially if you are going to apply the above suggestion.
00:05:460 (1) - Same thing as above.
00:06:431 (2) - Here you are following the 1/2 background, 00:07:014 (1) - but here you have decided to follow the synth again.
00:08:569 (1,2,3) - This idea doesn't really look attractive.
00:10:900 (1,2,3,4) - Similar suggestion as the earlier one. If you're not into changing it, maybe you could leave the first object as a 1/4 slider, but then keep the remaining 3 objects as a circle?
00:17:506 (4) - Looks like a very rough curve. Make it smoother?
00:36:936 (2) - Overlap not pixel-perfect
00:37:131 (3,1,2,1) - Looks as if you ran out of space. The slider facing another angle doesn't look nice.
00:40:822 (1,2) - That's quite a big gap...
00:41:211 (1) - Make the slider smoother?
00:53:646 (1) - Polish this slider a bit more. The sides are uneven.
00:54:423 (2) - Quite bland. Maybe enhance it bit more?
01:06:081 (1) - Here you ignore the 1/4 flute at the end of this slider, yet here 01:12:882 (2) - you actually map a 1/4 stack to it.
01:14:242 (2) - I'd recommend you to start the 1/4 repeat slider stream from here since this is where the 1/4 beat actually starts.
01:16:962 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Looks messy and out of place.
01:18:517 (1) - Try to be more creative.
01:21:626 (1,2) - Not the most attractive pattern.
01:23:374 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try fixing the slight overlap?
01:25:512 (1,2) - Looks ugly, I'd say you should mirror the first slider.
01:30:952 (1) - Polish it a bit more. The curves at the start and end are uneven and rough.
01:35:615 (1) - You've been mapping this sound with more simplistic sliders, yet here you have used a very technical mirrored slider. Try to be more consistent.
01:46:496 (1) - Polish the angles more.
01:48:050 (1) - Quite an ugly choice of a slider there.

asdf
00:09:540 (4,5,6) - Quite a messy overlap.
00:12:649 (7) - Try changing the direction, because that curved slider looks kind of out of place.
00:25:278 (1) - The 1/2 beat starts from 00:25:667 (1) - not from where you've started it.
00:26:056 (1) - That's where you should start the 1/4 doublets from.
00:31:107 (2,3) - I feel like CTRL+G would work better here.
00:31:690 (2) - Looks out of place, perhaps mirror the slider before it?
00:35:576 (2,5) - A nasty overlap.
00:38:102 (1) - The ending point is longer than the starting point.
00:39:268 (1,2) - Stuff like this just doesn't work. Try to be more creative there.
00:39:851 (1,2,1) - A nasty overlap, I'd recommend you to increase the distance snap there.
00:47:817 (3,4) - Try to get a better overlap with the slider in the middle. As you can see it needs some work https://i.imgur.com/NuPEw7D.jpg
00:50:149 (3) - Try to get a better overlap, by having the circle closer to the pixel-perfect middle with the middle of the slider.
00:58:698 (1) - Ugh... I think mapping it to the beat would be more consistent.
01:13:853 (3) - The upper part of the slider isn't pixel-perfect.
01:15:019 (1,2) - Another nasty overlap.
01:14:631 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Overall, I think this whole part looks messy and might need some work.
01:16:962 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - That's quite a messy slider with some ugly overlaps. Try to make it flow nicer.
01:21:431 (3,3) - A slight overlap that could be easily fixed.
01:23:180 (1,4) - ^
01:23:957 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This makes it look really messy because it overlaps with the sliders from earlier.
01:24:734 (1) - Rework this slider. The curve at the end is really ugly.
01:26:094 (3,5,1,2) - Has some nasty overlaps which makes it look messy.
01:27:455 (6,7) - CTRL+G
01:28:426 (4,1,4) - Some nasty overlaps
01:30:952 (1) - It really doesn't look nice.

The last part after the kiai has overlaps that work really well.


With some polishing, this could become a really cool mapset. Good luck :)
Yauxo

Blasticide wrote:

Hello :)

HYPER

00:07:403 (1) - Fix the overlap, it's not pixel-perfect But theyre both on 237/309 for me?:v Reapplied anyway, maybe that fixes it?
00:21:781 (3) - Feels really empty in here. Maybe a long slider could be changed to something else? I prefer going with the long/slow Bells here,
since I also supported the long/slow sounds here 00:07:403 (1) - 00:13:620 (1) - . I feel like it's also a nice transition into the more intense part.

00:36:159 (6,7) - Maybe slightly increase the distance snap so that you can get rid of the small overlap with (2)? By the time this plays, 2 is already completely gone and hitanimations should probably not make it unreadable. Its also a consistency thing that I want to have with 00:29:650 (5,6,7) -
00:45:874 (1) - Why is the part following this circle empty? I know you are trying to follow the background flute but there are other parts in the song where you follow the beat instead. What I intended with this is that the solo Circle should receive all the strength it could possibly get, as everything stops (the scratching, the long trumpet-y/flute-y sound) and supports (big bass thing) this very object. I gave it a 3/4 Slider before, and a short break after that, as theres less/nothing interesting happening after.
I wouldve done the same with 00:51:703 (7,1) - , but there are stronger and important beats after it, so I finished it up in a different combo there. If this comes up multiple times as an actual problem, Ill change it somehow (probably with a triplet after),
but I feel like that'd make it lose its strength and importance.

01:05:304 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Make this pattern more linear, if you look closely the direction of it is slightly curved. Fixed (still looks kinda off,
even though it should be exactly in the path)

01:21:237 (1,2) - A mild design error, but I don't recommend having slider points end outside of the area of the slider. Fixed

Kiai and the part followed after it appear to be absolutely fine.
Thanks! Pho, please apply Hitsounds so that I can silence Sliderends if needed :<

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Topic Starter
Pho

Blasticide wrote:

Hello :)

asdf
00:09:540 (4,5,6) - Quite a messy overlap. looks reasonable to me
00:12:649 (7) - Try changing the direction, because that curved slider looks kind of out of place. it's actually intended this way, seperates it better from the next pattern
00:25:278 (1) - The 1/2 beat starts from 00:25:667 (1) - not from where you've started it. Yes but the 1/4 fit well enough in this case.
00:26:056 (1) - That's where you should start the 1/4 doublets from. ^
00:31:107 (2,3) - I feel like CTRL+G would work better here. that'd mess up both rhythm and placement that i intended here
00:31:690 (2) - Looks out of place, perhaps mirror the slider before it? um it should look good enough
00:35:576 (2,5) - A nasty overlap. not nasty at all since it doesn't affect gameplay and i used overlap patterns a lot here
00:38:102 (1) - The ending point is longer than the starting point.
00:39:268 (1,2) - Stuff like this just doesn't work. Try to be more creative there. try to elaborate more on your points, as far as i've tested it and let the map be testplayed, this plays quite fine
00:39:851 (1,2,1) - A nasty overlap, I'd recommend you to increase the distance snap there. the overlaps are intentional, so no change here
00:47:817 (3,4) - Try to get a better overlap with the slider in the middle. As you can see it needs some work https://i.imgur.com/NuPEw7D.jpg
00:50:149 (3) - Try to get a better overlap, by having the circle closer to the pixel-perfect middle with the middle of the slider. should be accurate enough already, it doesnt have to be perfect
00:58:698 (1) - Ugh... I think mapping it to the beat would be more consistent. consistent in which way, sliders should represent the bell sounds well enough
01:13:853 (3) - The upper part of the slider isn't pixel-perfect. it's accurate enough tho
01:15:019 (1,2) - Another nasty overlap. intended as music grows stronger and the overlaps get smaller
01:14:631 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Overall, I think this whole part looks messy and might need some work. the patterns should be pretty clear for this part, looking messy is no reasonable argument
01:16:962 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - That's quite a messy slider with some ugly overlaps. Try to make it flow nicer. That's a stream with clear smooth curves and direction changes, and again overlap patterns are a major part of this map
01:21:431 (3,3) - A slight overlap that could be easily fixed. ^, it's not even noticeable in gameplay
01:23:180 (1,4) - ^ ^
01:23:957 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This makes it look really messy because it overlaps with the sliders from earlier. ^
01:24:734 (1) - Rework this slider. The curve at the end is really ugly.
01:26:094 (3,5,1,2) - Has some nasty overlaps which makes it look messy. See my previous points on overlapping.
01:27:455 (6,7) - CTRL+G no, the current movement is fine
01:28:426 (4,1,4) - Some nasty overlaps see above
01:30:952 (1) - It really doesn't look nice. this is pretty subjective, i believe it fits the aesthetics of the map pretty well.

The last part after the kiai has overlaps that work really well.


With some polishing, this could become a really cool mapset. Good luck :)
thanks for the mod! fixed the non-mentioned stuff
Otosaka-Yu
since camellia
[sahuang]
  1. 00:03:128 (4,5,6,7) - 看上去有点乱,试着弄成四边形?
  2. 00:04:197 - 漏了一个音吧
    00:05:751 - 也可以加多一个
    00:10:414 -
  3. 00:15:369 (2,1) - 这里可以三连
  4. 00:16:923 (4,5,1,2,3) - emmm这形状有点微妙好像之后也有类似的,其实直观感觉不太好
  5. 01:48:050 (1) - 这形状不好看qaq如果是直线凸出一块就好了
emm感觉挺有趣的,不过好像还是有一点直观的感觉不是那么好
[chaoz]
  1. 00:26:444 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - wtf hell
  2. 00:29:942 (6,7,8,9) - 感覺這種地方因爲bass的聲音不一樣可以稍微做一下1/4 jump like this 00:48:983 (1,2,1,2) -
    00:36:159 (4,5,6,7) - 同,類似這樣的聲音都可以做一下處理
滑條大師
1 star~ good luck!
Cris-
Hi, NM from my queue

General
  1. drum-sliderslide.wav is unused

Asaiga's BASIC
  1. 00:23:724 - Circle?
  2. 00:39:657 (2) - Move it down for a better flow
  3. 00:52:869 (4,1) - Blanket here? Just like you did it before ( 00:35:771 (2,3) )
  4. 01:48:050 - You shouldn't ignore this strong dowbeat
  5. 01:54:268 - ^

STANDARD
  1. 00:14:786 (3) - This slider looks a bit ugly
  2. 00:17:021 (2) - 00:18:575 (5) - 00:20:129 (2) - etc etc. I know you try to follow that sound, but starting a slider on a blue tick is quite complicated for new players, consider starting these sliders on the white ticks
  3. 00:25:667 (1,2,3,1) - This section is too together for a normal diff imo
  4. 00:52:092 (1,2) - Improve the flow

Underdogs' ADVANCED
  1. 00:22:558 (1,4) - Improve the blanket
  2. 00:37:908 (6,1) - ^
  3. 00:39:657 (6) - Missed NC
  4. 00:40:434 (7,8) - Perfect stack?
  5. 01:44:942 (1,1) - ^
  6. 00:58:309 (5) - NC
  7. 01:25:511 (4,5) - This looks a bit confuse, unstack pls

Yauxo's HYPER
  1. 00:40:045 (2,1) - Imo these notes are too far to be 1/4, consider reducing the space
  2. 01:06:081 - You could consider mapping this section considering that Underdogs did it in the previous difficulty

OVERDRIVE
  1. Why you name it 'asdf'? in the desc this diff has 'OVERDRIVE'
  2. 00:11:677 (1) - 00:52:966 (3) - 01:29:398 (1) - 01:37:170 (1) - Offscreen objects
Funny map, good job
GL !
Underdogs

Cris- wrote:

Hi, NM from my queue
Underdogs' ADVANCED
  1. 00:22:558 (1,4) - Improve the blanket ok i guess
  2. 00:37:908 (6,1) - ^ no
  3. 00:39:657 (6) - Missed NC fixed
  4. 00:40:434 (7,8) - Perfect stack? ^
  5. 01:44:942 (1,1) - ^ intentional
  6. 00:58:309 (5) - NC ok
  7. 01:25:511 (4,5) - This looks a bit confuse, unstack pls ok
thanks for mod w

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Toyosaki Aki
from my q
short mod xd

top diff
  1. 00:58:115 - Add circle on 00:57:532 (4) - 's tail or somewhere?
  2. 01:02:001 - Why not map here?
  3. 01:17:740 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - How about rotating about -18° that would be nicer to look
  4. The way to follow the unique sound here (01:54:657 (2) - ) by sliders like 01:53:685 (3) - would be fine for consistency

Happy New Nyaa~ GL!
Topic Starter
Pho
Cris-

Cris- wrote:

Hi, NM from my queue

General
  1. drum-sliderslide.wav is unused

STANDARD
  1. 00:14:786 (3) - This slider looks a bit ugly
  2. 00:17:021 (2) - 00:18:575 (5) - 00:20:129 (2) - etc etc. I know you try to follow that sound, but starting a slider on a blue tick is quite complicated for new players, consider starting these sliders on the white ticks It is, but I tbh the current rhythm patterns feel the most intuitive and fitting to the song. Following the white ticks doesnt work out well with the song in mind. I also got a basic difficulty to cover that up, for normal this type of pattern is challenging but doable.
  3. 00:25:667 (1,2,3,1) - This section is too together for a normal diff imo you mean cluttered? yea, might be, but the path should be clear to read, and it's not a long slidertrain either
  4. 00:52:092 (1,2) - Improve the flow is intended to not be smooth here

OVERDRIVE
  1. Why you name it 'asdf'? in the desc this diff has 'OVERDRIVE' it's a working title lol
  2. 00:11:677 (1) - 00:52:966 (3) - 01:29:398 (1) - 01:37:170 (1) - Offscreen objects
Funny map, good job
GL !


Toyosaki Aki

Toyosaki Aki wrote:

from my q
short mod xd

top diff
  1. 00:58:115 - Add circle on 00:57:532 (4) - 's tail or somewhere? got the most prominent beats covered up already, undermap's on purpose
  2. 01:02:001 - Why not map here? mainly following the kicks and snares instead of the instruments
  3. 01:17:740 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - How about rotating about -18° that would be nicer to look
  4. The way to follow the unique sound here (01:54:657 (2) - ) by sliders like 01:53:685 (3) - would be fine for consistency Simplified it a bit here on purpose so that I could put beats on 01:54:851 (2,3) - these notes. Buzzsliders would make it too unforgiving to play

Happy New Nyaa~ GL!

Thanks for the mods you two :) (also happy new year to you too)
fixed all the non-commented stuff!
WORSTPOLACKEU
Just small thing in the top diff

SPOILER
00:10 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:38:724 (1,2) -
00:11 WORSTPOLACKEU: always misreading because the spacing does not support the rhythm gap
00:17 Pho: oh, i just assumed it'd be easy to read the gap because i don't use such high-spaced sharp movements elsewhere
00:17 Pho: 'cept for the 1-2 parts that is
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: it is very difficult to be honest
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know it is there after playing
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: but I still misread because of the general speed in the map
00:19 Pho: hmm ok, i'll see what i can do
00:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: I'd recommend stacking
00:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: and putting the next slider underneath somehow
00:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: to not destroy your current aesthetics
00:22 Pho: that doesnt really work for me because it takes away too much momentum
00:22 Pho: and i never used it in the kiai before
00:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: actually when you are playing
00:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: and you have to make a small movement after a break, it loses more momentum than stopping for a moment
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: just speaking from experience when I play maps
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: small movements make you change the speed drastically and that is very straining to your aim and makes it very uncomfortable, stopping entirely works well
00:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think of it like lifting your hand for a moment and then continuing the flow and speed
00:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: but having to move it to another place in a much slower pace and continuing with the previous speed is not comfortable
00:28 Pho: i know what you mean but uhm i can't see how this applies to my map
00:28 Pho: either way i figured sth out for that part already
00:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: ah alrighty
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: it should apply to every map mostly though hh
00:29 Pho: thanks for the input btw
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: but map cool GL
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: enjoyed
00:29 Pho: thanks lol
Sandwich
hello, short mod~

Top Diff

  • 00:11:677 (1) - feels pretty weird being just a slider, i would make it at least a reverse slider instead
    00:12:455 (5,6,7) - this feels kind of weak, i would place it a bit further away i think
    00:19:644 (2,3,4) - comes kind of surprising after the doubles, but maybe its just me
    00:21:587 (1,2,3,4,5) - i know what you did there, but it feels really weird to play
    00:22:364 (6) - why not place a circle here?
    00:33:828 (4) - and why not a slider here? would really suit with 00:34:022 (1) - imo
    00:59:281 (1) - this one feels a bit too weak
    01:05:013 (3) - i feel like this circle isn't enough, why not make it like 01:01:515 (1,2) - ?
    you have something here 01:44:942 (2) - and here 01:57:960 (1) - , so why not put something at 00:27:221 (3) - , maybe a reverse slider like at 01:44:942 (2) -
Really good map, flows really nice :D
gl :)
Yauxo

Cris- wrote:

Yauxo's HYPER
  1. 00:40:045 (2,1) - Imo these notes are too far to be 1/4, consider reducing the space Since this is coming from Kicksliders, I wouldnt think that this is too far away. It even gets "worse" in the Kiai, so this one should be fine.
  2. 01:06:081 - You could consider mapping this section considering that Underdogs did it in the previous difficulty Im considering to map something before the Spinner, but Im unsure where a start would actually fit in (as it weirdly fades in mid-measure). I want to have a break here though, breaks dont hurt.
Thanks
lazygirl
heyho quick nm for fun

[Yauxo's HYPER]

  1. 00:06:528 - feels weird not having anything here, some kind of filler slider would be nice.
  2. 00:07:403 (1) - the starting shape is a little sloppy, should adjust it to blanket better.
  3. 00:26:056 (3,4) - might be fitting to make this a repeat.
  4. 00:55:978 (3,1) - stacking is offset.
cool diff, mainly the drops are nice. If you got the will to do it, I suggest revising your alignments, some are a little sloppy. 01:38:335 (1,2,3,4,5) - e.g. (just a random example), doesn't have the same tilt on the slider as the stream. Minor stuff but worth fixing if you want the diff to be more polished.

[sahuang's EXHAUST]

  1. 00:09:249 - 00:15:466 - skipping a few notes that'd be nice if mapped
  2. 00:19:838 (4,4) - not sure why you switch to sliders here, I think keeping the previous patterns was fine. And if you want to put sliders, you should make sure flow on this stream 00:19:838 (4,5,1,2,3) - is more consistent with previous patterns, since it has the same melody.
  3. 00:41:890 (6,1) - Might want to acknowledge this by doing an angle on 6 as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9916038 something along these lines. Also, ignoring a strong sound on 1's tail isn't the best thing imo. 00:48:206 (1) -
  4. 00:43:057 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 1 doesn't transition well from the stream's curve, should make it curve ligther and rotate inwards.
  5. 00:49:566 (5,6,1,2,3) - why not do the same as 00:18:478 (4,5,1,2,3) - would fit nicely. I think linear constant spacing is too boring for this.
  6. 01:18:128 (1,2,3,4,1) - this jump is enormous and flows quite bad, don't think it's a good idea. 01:18:517 (1) - also this slider is boring and unappealing, you should replace it with something fancier that actually does stand out, or map the rhythms you're skipping over.
  7. 01:23:957 (1,2,3,4) - this is a 2+2 not a 4 one. Should be 2 kicksliders.
Cool map, cool ideas, could use more polishing and better consistency.

[Chaoz's GRAVITY]

Have nothing to say except 01:22:111 (3,4) - why no 4 stream (as well as all following of the same pattern). This diff is dope af.

Not gonna mod last diff, it's a bit wild :')

GL for rank! Nice set ^^
_Meep_
my bad mod


asaiga
00:59:864 (4,1) - maybe make it a reverse slider? I found this a bit weird since players wouldnt expect 4 to be clickable. All the notes in this small section are mapped to a certain sound, yet that one is the only one that doesn't seem to have any sound to it. Some examples to make it simpler for newbies:
00:58:309 - when seen from this timestamp,



01:33:284 (4) - probs change this into a single note? players need rest man ;c
also just a bit from me, maybe you would need some more pauses in the kiai, since theres an abundance of it in the earlier parts of the song and none in the chorus at all, theres an imbalance in difficulty throughout the map imo.
well then again the kiai is pretty short so it may just be me ;/

standard
00:52:092 - change rhythm to this? the 2 tick gap feels odd and i dont think players would be able to play this comfortably.


00:55:298 (3,4,5) - this feels really odd imo. I know this is the nature of the song, but i recommend you stick with the 1/2 notes most of the time since it's much easier for the players to read. from here 00:55:201 - , maybe change the rhythm to:


00:57:532 (2) - as I said earlier, the gaps may feel odd for the players, so I think putting less guesswork for the player would be best, so maybe make this a reverse? 00:58:309 (3) - this note could also be a 3/4 reverse too, it fits really well, although the next notes may suffer since they'd all be clustered tgt.

01:01:515 - same thing as above, dont need to reply if u dont wanna

01:03:556 - instead of putting a triple maybe just putting a note here so that you're not completely ignoring the kicks? if you do that, then i suggest you replace 01:02:973 (1) - with a 1/1 slider so the players have an easier time figuring out the rhythm.

01:52:228 (7) - why is this not a 3/4 though? the 1/2 makes the pause seem really abrupt and odd

suck at modding normals, im sorry

understory
00:12:649 (4,1) - cuz im slightly ocd can u make this aligned with each other
00:26:833 (4) - I dont think you need tnat extra 1 more repeat at the end. The big white tick doesn thave any drum on it.
01:00:252 (1,2,3) - not sure if players will be confused by this since all the other slider+note+slider patterns you've done in this map earlier were all overlapped, unlike this one.
01:05:596 (1,1) - nice nc spam xd
01:25:706 (5,6,1) - may be a bit confusing
01:26:969 (4) - i dont see the reason for this note,since theres no more drums after 123. 01:39:404 (4) - same for this.
01:29:786 (1) - is this nc on purpose or?

yauxo
00:21:587 (1,1,1) - can u explain to me why is there the NC spam here?
01:30:369 - looking at it from here, i think this is a better way to place the kicksliders


01:36:392 - this as well,

ok i cant mod anything above hyper because i wont be able to properly testplay them,

note that its all my opinon so dont take em so seriously xdxd
Chaoslitz

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

[chaoz]
  1. 00:26:444 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - wtf hell nonono 不hell
  2. 00:29:942 (6,7,8,9) - 感覺這種地方因爲bass的聲音不一樣可以稍微做一下1/4 jump like this 00:48:983 (1,2,1,2) -
    00:36:159 (4,5,6,7) - 同,類似這樣的聲音都可以做一下處理 這個, 懶了, 前面沒想到要這麼做
滑條大師
1 star~ good luck!

lazyboy007 wrote:

[Chaoz's GRAVITY]

Have nothing to say except 01:22:111 (3,4) - why no 4 stream (as well as all following of the same pattern). This diff is dope af.

I have no idea what you are talking about
thanks
lazygirl

Chaoslitz wrote:

lazyboy007 wrote:

[Chaoz's GRAVITY]

Have nothing to say except 01:22:111 (3,4) - why no 4 stream (as well as all following of the same pattern). This diff is dope af.
[color=#FF0000]
I have no idea what you are talking about[/color]


thanks


I meant that imo a stream of 4 notes would fit better than that kickslider + circle you use throughout the kiai ^^ Sorry for being unclear
iYiyo
hallo, wie gehts? gut und dir? danke danke

m4m with chaoz


  • [General]
  1. background image is 1,28MB, consider reducing it so you can save 1MB~

    [asdf]
  2. 00:04:683 (7,8,1) - the distance you're using here is pretty unbalanced, you have first x3,0 and then x0,78 for the same time gap. However, imo, 00:05:460 - is way more intense, therefore I feel like it may confuse a lot of players considering this is a high bpm song (I got confused tbh). What I would recommend is maybe to rotate 00:04:197 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - so 00:04:683 (7) - is closer to 00:05:265 (8) - .
  3. 00:55:881 (5,6) - this sudden mini jump with 00:55:492 (3,4,5) - this blue-ticks-rhythm feels a bit harder than it should be for this caaaalmer section. Highly recommend you to stack 00:55:881 (5,6) - both on 5.
  4. 01:20:460 (1,1) - I think it could be better if you make them overlap both end and start while having similar curve shape but with different SV. another idea i guess could be to stack like this: https://puu.sh/yTOn2/792fbf47c8.jpg Right now the current overlap looks a bit messy if compared to the rest of your mapping on this diff so yeah, mainly because of that.
  5. 01:32:603 (4) - I feel like this should have a NC, like the sliders are totally different from 01:31:535 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this pattern, what do you think?
  6. cool af

    [Chaoz's GRAVITY]
  7. 00:05:265 (1) - silence slidertail aswell?
  8. 00:52:869 (1) - consdering the high ar and bpm, I really got confused while playing this stack, like i couldn't recognize it tbh. Since it's a stron beat, I'd recommend to move it like https://puu.sh/yTPcK/82e2a78187.jpg so it matches other similar rhythms in this section.
  9. 01:22:888 (3,4) - tbh this overlap feels out of place if we consider 01:22:111 (3,4) - 01:23:180 (1,2) - etc (actually looking at your kiai, it might be a missclick :d)
  10. pretty damn cool diff. I can just say that maybe it'd be better if you copy all the combo color hex of top diff, because right now you have things like 00:56:755 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - (https://puu.sh/yTPtx/c6a2208e5f.jpg) and 01:01:710 (1,2,3,1) - (https://puu.sh/yTPuz/988337fe6c.jpg) that with transparent skin might be difficult to recognize the NC.

    [sahuang's EXHAUST]
  11. 00:04:197 - 00:05:363 - 00:10:414 - why you skiping that strong violin sound? it really feels very weird not having them at all. Maybe you wanted to emphasize something, or make it a bit special because of the technical mapping, but consdering this is a +5sr map, i don't think it's that good to undermap this section, even if it's the intro.
  12. 00:40:822 (1,2) - while playing this jump it really stand out from all the other sections tbh and not because it's the end of the kiai it means this huge jump is well supported. (imo 01:21:626 - should also be kiai, therefore it has more emphasized section, but still you can't see jumps like this here at all). For this I'd highly highly recommend to reduce the jump a bit, maybe from x6,25 to x4.2~~?
  13. similar thing about the NC i mentioned on chaoz's - 01:05:596 (1,2,1,2) - (https://puu.sh/yTPFP/c666b37d87.jpg) that was pretty damn confusing tbh

Tbh all I could say is that the diffs are very well mapped and structured, was really hard to find something.

I hope my mod could help out a bit. GL!

aufwiedersehen
Underdogs

_Meep_ wrote:

my bad mod



understory
00:12:649 (4,1) - cuz im slightly ocd can u make this aligned with each other ok
00:26:833 (4) - I dont think you need tnat extra 1 more repeat at the end. The big white tick doesn thave any drum on it. since the section is ending. it felt awkward rhythm-wise to leave the downbeat unmapped (clickable or non-clickable)
01:00:252 (1,2,3) - not sure if players will be confused by this since all the other slider+note+slider patterns you've done in this map earlier were all overlapped, unlike this one. Since this is a low bpm (and the fact I did the same at 01:23:180 (1,2,3) - and 01:29:398 (1,2,1) - proves that I'm using it as a pattern, which reflects the difficulty as a Hard diff
01:05:596 (1,1) - nice nc spam xd xd
01:25:706 (5,6,1) - may be a bit confusing In general, the players don't have to move their cursor, since the repeats do their job. So I don't think it's that confusing
01:26:969 (4) - i dont see the reason for this note,since theres no more drums after 123. 01:39:404 (4) - same for this. there's a bell(?)
on the 3/4 so I gotta map that one

01:29:786 (1) - is this nc on purpose or? no lol. fixed

note that its all my opinon so dont take em so seriously xdxd

understandable have a nice day
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Icekalt
o/

m4m w/ chaos ~

(god i love this set, how am i supposed to mod this - well lets go :D)

[Asaiga's]

- 00:11:677 (2) - this wave seems pretty unbalanced (idk if you want that)
- 00:19:449 (1) - imo this should go to 00:20:227 - since you did that at 00:22:558 (1) - too^^
- 00:48:983 (3,4,1) - this dosent seem too visual apperearing cause of the straight pattern - maybe like this would be better https://puu.sh/yV5Fe/793b645ff0.png

[Standart]

(god this greenlines :D)
Only thing:
- imo you shouldnt ignore this sound 01:03:556 - since you mapped 01:02:390 (6) -
(ich hasse normals -.-)

[Underdog's]

(ar seems a bit high for me - exspecially spreadwise (3,2 - 4 - 8 - 8,6 - ...) around 7 like 7,2 would be more suitable tbh ^^)
- 00:21:004 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern could be cleaner ~
(really subjective!: 00:43:543 (3) - i would use another sliderform here since the blanket with 00:43:154 (2) - looks super cramped and kinda chaning it to another slider would make the part more visual appearing^^ (imo))
- 00:45:680 (5,6,1,2,3) - imo using constant DS here would make the pattern alot more cleaner
(- 00:46:554 (4,5) - maybe stack theese since it would fit with the previous pattering)
- 01:26:969 (4,5) - stacking this wouldve be nice since you show the difference in melody ^^ (and it would fit to the above but this wouldnt matter too much imo cause here you have a more dominant downfall of the music (dont really know how to describe))
- (ok sorry that i stick so much to that pattern but it kinda bothers me :D) 01:38:724 (1,2,3) - and 01:26:289 (1,2,3) - compared looks kinda random to me, what DS you use for that - maybe clear hat up ^^)

[Yauxo's]

- the upper left side of he playfield is pretty free - idk if this is a problem tho
- 01:43:387 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe space them out over time for that build up like: https://puu.sh/yV73s/ab561e3ebb.png
(this pause is soo long :()

[Sahuang's]

- 00:15:369 (2,1) - this is very hard readable as a 1/2 tbh - looks so much like a 1/4 ~
- 00:36:062 (3,1,2,3,4,1) - you can blanket 3 with the straeam alot better ~

the rest of the topdiffs looks fine to me ( im prolly not able to judge them correctly but whatever ;) )
I hope you can push this set asap ^^

Note: all the diffs are super well made and im just nitpicking her and there - dont think i critizising your mapping at all ^^
TheKingHenry
Hello mod from my queue~
Since it seems the latest mod is still unanswered hopefully I won't be saying too much of the same things mentioned in there.
Asaiga's BASIC
  1. 00:59:864 (4,1) - I guess it'd be fine this way too but personally I'd switch the NC to 00:59:864 (4) -
  2. 01:21:626 (1) - not really good looking wave slider tbh, not only do the curves seem different compared to each other, they aren't smooth and for example the blanket between 01:20:460 (1,1) - doesn't quite work; similar issue with for example 01:27:843 (1) - 01:34:061 (1) -
STANDARD
  1. 00:12:649 (6) - not really good place for sliderend, the sound would be better off being clicked instead due how strong it is. It's also the sound that'd probably be NCd in that case.
  2. 00:55:298 (3) - this isn't that good position here either, even though the sound begins where this starts, because the emphasis point of the sound this slider is positioned to is now in the middle of this slider (in the red tick) making it feel quite off. Same with 01:01:515 (4) -
  3. 01:55:434 (7) - similarly to the first point here as well very strong sound under sliderend
  4. 00:28:776 - why doesn't AiMod complain about this less than 15 seconds long kiai similarly to 01:46:496 - lol. Seems to be the case in multiple diffs AiMod ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Underdogs' ADVANCED
  1. 00:51:412 (4,5) - blanket?
  2. 01:06:081 (1,2) - should these be stacked? Because they aren't atm. Anyways either stack them or use the same distance that is between 01:06:664 (2,3) - for example
  3. 01:21:431 (1,1) - blanket? Blanket at 01:24:540 (6,1) - needs kinda fixing as well (the head and tail of slider are clearly close to the circle than the body)
  4. 01:44:942 (1,1) - stack these?
Yauxo's HYPER
  1. 00:05:265 (1) - is this really necessary? Same with 00:11:483 (1) - and so on in the next same section (00:42:571 (1) - onwards)
  2. 00:43:348 (4,6,7,1) - nothing really wrong but comes off as very messy compared to what the map so far has felt
  3. 01:51:742 (1,2,1) - why this way here when similar pattern at 00:40:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - done differently. Also for 3rd variation see for example 00:34:022 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ; not like the places around them are exactly the same but the sounds itself in the music are very similar
sahuang's EXHAUST
  1. Already looking at the earlier parts this seems like a huge jump in things mapset-wise from the last diff, but let's see
  2. 00:40:337 (4) - why no slider for the 1/8 similarly to 00:38:782 (3) -
  3. Yeah basically the first point. This diff basically contains all the rhythms and even very gimmicky stuff to go with them, which doesn't really necessarily need to be only in the top diff, sure, but it's huge jump from the last diff in this set.
Chaoz's GRAVITY
  1. 00:56:755 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 3 times similar-styled pattern for 3 different rhythms. The first two work as a pair there but I think it'd be better to use something different for 01:01:710 (1,2,3) - considering there's nothing close-by to it that it could be related to so this pair few secs before is what it reminds most of.
asdf
  1. Is that the final diffname? lol
  2. 00:02:933 (1,2) - not actually sure if it's related to the length of the stream or whatnot but completely stacked streams are no-no as far as I know. That being said since for now these are triples only I don't know what's the judgment. That being said differentiating the triples from the completely stacked doubles like 00:16:923 (3,4,5,6) - is completely another matter. Well since I can't play these anyways you'd better get feedback from someone who knows his shit
  3. 00:55:298 (1,2) - not only here but you've been ignoring quite a few rhythms here and there already, not really wrong tbh but I'd implement them considering this is top diff and already the 2 couple ones under this were doing that.
  4. 01:49:410 (1) - you should tune the beginning of this slider since you can't see from the body where the path is going and you should be able to do that. (you can probably just be still for the first round with this tbh but the same case might not be with HR for example)
Liking this song more than your average Camellia stuff and the mapset seems pretty cool too (as you can probably see from the content of the mod).
Good luck!
Yauxo

lazyboy007 wrote:

heyho quick nm for fun

[Yauxo's HYPER]

  1. 00:06:528 - feels weird not having anything here, some kind of filler slider would be nice. I dont think this part needs any more objects.
    Works fine with the stop'n'go
  2. 00:07:403 (1) - the starting shape is a little sloppy, should adjust it to blanket better. Adjusted.
  3. 00:26:056 (3,4) - might be fitting to make this a repeat. I dont want to pack too many repeats in this section.
  4. 00:55:978 (3,1) - stacking is offset. Screw Sliderends. Adjusted.
cool diff, mainly the drops are nice. If you got the will to do it, I suggest revising your alignments, some are a little sloppy. 01:38:335 (1,2,3,4,5) - e.g. (just a random example), doesn't have the same tilt on the slider as the stream. Minor stuff but worth fixing if you want the diff to be more polished. I feel like it doesnt matter too much if an angle is off by ~1°, as long as it's not extremely visible while playing.

_Meep_ wrote:

yauxo
00:21:587 (1,1,1) - can u explain to me why is there the NC spam here? Thats nowhere near NCSpam tbh? NCs are here to remove followlines.
01:30:369 - looking at it from here, i think this is a better way to place the kicksliders Youre not wrong, but that'd require me to change the long Slider afterwards since it'd lose all it's strength with the new last Kickslider.

01:36:392 - this as well I feel like this one would take the increased speed/spacing or strength away from the later two Kicksliders, which is not what I want.

IceKalt wrote:

[Yauxo's]

- the upper left side of he playfield is pretty free - idk if this is a problem tho Shouldnt be.
- 01:43:387 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe space them out over time for that build up like I had that in mind as I mapped it, not sure why I didnt apply it. Changed.

TheKingHenry wrote:

Yauxo's HYPER
  1. 00:05:265 (1) - is this really necessary? Same with 00:11:483 (1) - and so on in the next same section (00:42:571 (1) - onwards) Yes,
    and I do not see a problem with that. It fits the music's change in pitch and is consistent throught the map. It's an overlap and this is not a Normal :v
  2. 00:43:348 (4,6,7,1) - nothing really wrong but comes off as very messy compared to what the map so far has felt Fixed, I guess? I basically flipped the enitre part after this.
  3. 01:51:742 (1,2,1) - why this way here when similar pattern at 00:40:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - done differently. Also for 3rd variation see for example 00:34:022 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ; not like the places around them are exactly the same but the sounds itself in the music are very similar Normal, compressed Stream = Non-Kiai / Off, stretched Stream ) Kiai. The Non-Kiai ones are basically the same, too.
Thank

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Asaiga

_Meep_ wrote:

asaiga
00:59:864 (4,1) - maybe make it a reverse slider? I found this a bit weird since players wouldnt expect 4 to be clickable. All the notes in this small section are mapped to a certain sound, yet that one is the only one that doesn't seem to have any sound to it. Some examples to make it simpler for newbies: originally there was no note there but papa wants it ):
00:58:309 - when seen from this timestamp, I think current rhythm goes better with the bells



01:33:284 (4) - probs change this into a single note? players need rest man ;c
also just a bit from me, maybe you would need some more pauses in the kiai, since theres an abundance of it in the earlier parts of the song and none in the chorus at all, theres an imbalance in difficulty throughout the map imo.
well then again the kiai is pretty short so it may just be me ;/ but kiai is hyper :v

TheKingHenry wrote:

Asaiga's BASIC
  1. 00:59:864 (4,1) - I guess it'd be fine this way too but personally I'd switch the NC to 00:59:864 (4) - They follow as set and players would just ignore it because the kick on (1) is stronger
  2. 01:21:626 (1) - not really good looking wave slider tbh, not only do the curves seem different compared to each other, they aren't smooth and for example the blanket between 01:20:460 (1,1) - doesn't quite work; similar issue with for example 01:27:843 (1) - 01:34:061 (1) - but they don't need to be perfect, right? ;;

IceKalt wrote:

[Asaiga's]

- 00:11:677 (2) - this wave seems pretty unbalanced (idk if you want that) adjusted a bit
- 00:19:449 (1) - imo this should go to 00:20:227 - since you did that at 00:22:558 (1) - too^^ I follow drum here. and the latter is simply a filler before the spin. I just feel like it's better to keep it this way
- 00:48:983 (3,4,1) - this dosent seem too visual apperearing cause of the straight pattern - maybe like this would be better https://puu.sh/yV5Fe/793b645ff0.png nice, fixed.
thanks mod
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Topic Starter
Pho
Meep

_Meep_ wrote:

my bad mod


00:52:092 - change rhythm to this? the 2 tick gap feels odd and i dont think players would be able to play this comfortably.
Current rhythm is more distinct and reflects better what's going on in the music, so i'll keep

00:55:298 (3,4,5) - this feels really odd imo. I know this is the nature of the song, but i recommend you stick with the 1/2 notes most of the time since it's much easier for the players to read. from here 00:55:201 - , maybe change the rhythm to: i'm not really a fan of oversimplifying rhythms, and for a normal difficulty this should be still fair enough


00:57:532 (2) - as I said earlier, the gaps may feel odd for the players, so I think putting less guesswork for the player would be best, so maybe make this a reverse? 00:58:309 (3) - this note could also be a 3/4 reverse too, it fits really well, although the next notes may suffer since they'd all be clustered tgt. this one i might eventually agree with, but i don't think this one's particularly hard either, and it makes the beats more distinct from each other.

01:01:515 - same thing as above, dont need to reply if u dont wanna ^

01:03:556 - instead of putting a triple maybe just putting a note here so that you're not completely ignoring the kicks? if you do that, then i suggest you replace 01:02:973 (1) - with a 1/1 slider so the players have an easier time figuring out the rhythm.

01:52:228 (7) - why is this not a 3/4 though? the 1/2 makes the pause seem really abrupt and odd because 3/4 would make the slider miss the snare on the red tick.

suck at modding normals, im sorry

ok i cant mod anything above hyper because i wont be able to properly testplay them,

note that its all my opinon so dont take em so seriously xdxd

iYiyo

iYiyo wrote:

hallo, wie gehts? gut und dir? danke danke oh du sprichst deutsch, nice

m4m with chaoz


  • [General]
  1. background image is 1,28MB, consider reducing it so you can save 1MB~

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  2. 00:04:683 (7,8,1) - the distance you're using here is pretty unbalanced, you have first x3,0 and then x0,78 for the same time gap. However, imo, 00:05:460 - is way more intense, therefore I feel like it may confuse a lot of players considering this is a high bpm song (I got confused tbh). What I would recommend is maybe to rotate 00:04:197 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - so 00:04:683 (7) - is closer to 00:05:265 (8) - . Ich hab das Spacing etwas abgeschwächt, aber der jump ist immer noch drin weil die Trennung ganz gut zur Musik passt.
  3. 00:55:881 (5,6) - this sudden mini jump with 00:55:492 (3,4,5) - this blue-ticks-rhythm feels a bit harder than it should be for this caaaalmer section. Highly recommend you to stack 00:55:881 (5,6) - both on 5. Der Sprung ist beabsichtigt, da 6 stark betont wird und mit der Bewegung mehr Emphasis herauskommt.
  4. 01:20:460 (1,1) - I think it could be better if you make them overlap both end and start while having similar curve shape but with different SV. another idea i guess could be to stack like this: https://puu.sh/yTOn2/792fbf47c8.jpg Right now the current overlap looks a bit messy if compared to the rest of your mapping on this diff so yeah, mainly because of that. Die Overlaps wie sie jetzt gerade sind gefallen mir eigentlich ganz gut, muss nicht gefixt werden.
  5. 01:32:603 (4) - I feel like this should have a NC, like the sliders are totally different from 01:31:535 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this pattern, what do you think? Ich denke so wie es jetzt ist ist es schon Spam genug lol.
  6. cool af

Tbh all I could say is that the diffs are very well mapped and structured, was really hard to find something.

I hope my mod could help out a bit. GL!

aufwiedersehen

TheKingHenry

TheKingHenry wrote:

Hello mod from my queue~
Since it seems the latest mod is still unanswered hopefully I won't be saying too much of the same things mentioned in there.

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  1. 00:12:649 (6) - not really good place for sliderend, the sound would be better off being clicked instead due how strong it is. It's also the sound that'd probably be NCd in that case. Current slider works fine as well, the note at the sliderend isn't more emphasized than the start, and the transition feels a lot smoother with a slider than circles only.
  2. 00:55:298 (3) - this isn't that good position here either, even though the sound begins where this starts, because the emphasis point of the sound this slider is positioned to is now in the middle of this slider (in the red tick) making it feel quite off. Same with 01:01:515 (4) - none of the beats this slider goes through are more emphasized than the other, and i chose the one that encompasses all of them in a way i find the most fitting. Might not be the most intuitive, but it's clear what I am following at this part.
  3. 01:55:434 (7) - similarly to the first point here as well very strong sound under sliderend Yes, but then again the slider follows the swoosh sound in the background much better.
  4. 00:28:776 - why doesn't AiMod complain about this less than 15 seconds long kiai similarly to 01:46:496 - lol. Seems to be the case in multiple diffs AiMod ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Wouldn't rely too much on outdated tools lol

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  1. Is that the final diffname? lol was anime a mistake
  2. 00:02:933 (1,2) - not actually sure if it's related to the length of the stream or whatnot but completely stacked streams are no-no as far as I know. That being said since for now these are triples only I don't know what's the judgment. That being said differentiating the triples from the completely stacked doubles like 00:16:923 (3,4,5,6) - is completely another matter. Well since I can't play these anyways you'd better get feedback from someone who knows his shit Yea this is kind of a grey zone for me too, I actually wanted to ask someone about this lol. Seemed fair enough to me
  3. 00:55:298 (1,2) - not only here but you've been ignoring quite a few rhythms here and there already, not really wrong tbh but I'd implement them considering this is top diff and already the 2 couple ones under this were doing that. I purposefully undermapped this whole section because a) it's not as fast-paced as the previous section and b) mainly following the kicks and snares (which are rhythmically varying a lot) feels more complimenting to the song. It's just another kind of perspective.
  4. 01:49:410 (1) - you should tune the beginning of this slider since you can't see from the body where the path is going and you should be able to do that. (you can probably just be still for the first round with this tbh but the same case might not be with HR for example) The path of this slider is clear enough, there was a discussion years ago concerning these kinds of sliders and they were deemed rankable.
Liking this song more than your average Camellia stuff and the mapset seems pretty cool too (as you can probably see from the content of the mod).
Good luck!i like your mods lol

Did apply all the uncommented stuff, thanks guys :)

Also probably need to change the difficulty names, realized this isn't suitable for reflec beat songs
Myxo
Hey, saw your map on the Modding Association and felt like modding the highest difficulty.

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  1. 00:12:455 (5,6,7) - feels a little bit out of place in this section because of the lower than usual spacing and the movement, it's pretty minor but i think something like this would fit better: http://puu.sh/yW980/a961cf8db6.jpg
  2. 00:21:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the rhythm is weird here, because the strong drums 00:22:072 - and 00:22:267 - aren't clickable which they were in the rest of the section, also having a halfbeat gap after a 1/4-slider 00:22:170 (5,6) - is pretty unintuitive because most players will expect a 1/4-gap after such a slider. i recommend a rhythm like this or similar: http://puu.sh/yW9fy/5071f4d722.jpg
  3. 00:25:278 (1,1) - because the buildup starts at 00:25:667 - it feels weird that these sliders are already part of the buildup pattern and have colorful combos etc. you probably did them like this because the melody changes but it's only a transition into the buildup musically, so it'd be better to express these sliders with special slidershapes for example but don't include them in the next pattern. example: http://puu.sh/yW9n9/4a09434df3.jpg
  4. 00:39:657 (1,1,2) - questionable rhythm choice here because of the strong drum at 00:39:948 -, i understand that 00:39:851 (1,2) - follow the wubs but they are much more quiet compared to 00:39:268 (1,2) - and the drums are dominating here imo. also this pattern looks rather messy so it feels a bit like an afterthought. maybe consider a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/yW9z0/98b7d282cc.jpg ?
  5. 00:45:097 (5,6) - why is it the same rhythm and pattern as 00:44:320 (3,4) - ? the earlier pattern follows the melody well and it makes sense to do so because the whole section follows melody, but here 00:45:097 (5,6) - the long melody note still holds on and there's no repetition so i don't think the same rhythm or even same pattern fits here. i would recommend (again) to follow the drums here as they are the most prominent instrument besides the hold note of the melody.
  6. 00:54:715 (3,1,2,3) - pretty unintuitive to read imo, because it's hard to guess the triplet starts from a blue tick and it's difficult to predict on which kind of tick the slow slider will end. i think it would help to let the slider end at 00:55:298 - instead, so you have a double more intuitively leading into the blue tick pattern.
  7. 01:01:515 (1,2,1,2) - variety is nice but this feels way too different from 00:55:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - and since it's a calm section without so much happening i think most players will notice this, too. in general, it strikes me as odd that you decided to follow the 1/8 triplet here 01:01:515 (1,2) - while you ignored almost every instance of 1/8 triplets in the whole map (00:55:201 - 00:53:160 - 00:51:995 - 00:46:166 - etc). so yeah, i'd suggest doing something similar to the earlier pattern or atleast getting rid of the 1/8-slider.
  8. 01:15:408 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - minor, but the pattern seems a bit too chaotic (in terms of overlaps and degree of curve of the sliders) for such a straight-forward buildup. it would help to copy-paste and rotate the sliders so the slidercurves are consistent, and also somehow avoid this overlap 01:16:185 (1,1) -. i won't put an example screenshot here because i feel that you can make something without much effort that fits your style much better than what i'd do
  9. 01:31:535 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - i like this pattern, but i think it could be even better if it'd follow the pitch of the melody. the pitch reaches its peak at 01:31:729 - and 01:32:118 - and then jumps down again, so a pattern that groups the first 3 notes in the measure together and then 4 each would be awesome (the NCing would look like this http://puu.sh/yWanv/505a034b88.jpg and the jumps would need to be changed accordingly).
  10. 01:40:958 (2,3) - stacking (3) under (2)'s tail like here 01:42:513 (2,3) - would make this pattern more intuitive, right now it feels kinda weird to slow down for the halfbeat gap afterwards
  11. 01:51:936 (1,2,3) - this pattern feels underwhelming to play due to the spacings, even though it sticks out in the music due to the strong drums compared to the parts around it. i don't have a simple pattern suggestion in mind right now but anything with large jumps would work fine
Cool map, it's very exciting and plays nicely, especially the beginning part and the kiai. Sometimes I felt it has a little too much variety in rhythm and patterning, since the song already provides huge variety it would be a better choice to hold the map together by mapping same groups of sounds the same way imo. I really liked Chaoz' and Yauxo's diffs btw. Good luck! :)
Topic Starter
Pho

Myxomatosis wrote:

Hey, saw your map on the Modding Association and felt like modding the highest difficulty.

[asdf]

  1. 00:12:455 (5,6,7) - feels a little bit out of place in this section because of the lower than usual spacing and the movement, it's pretty minor but i think something like this would fit better: http://puu.sh/yW980/a961cf8db6.jpg that spacing feels a bit too much for me, but i increased it a bit and tilted the slider
  2. 00:21:587 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the rhythm is weird here, because the strong drums 00:22:072 - and 00:22:267 - aren't clickable which they were in the rest of the section, also having a halfbeat gap after a 1/4-slider 00:22:170 (5,6) - is pretty unintuitive because most players will expect a 1/4-gap after such a slider. i recommend a rhythm like this or similar: http://puu.sh/yW9fy/5071f4d722.jpg
  3. 00:25:278 (1,1) - because the buildup starts at 00:25:667 - it feels weird that these sliders are already part of the buildup pattern and have colorful combos etc. you probably did them like this because the melody changes but it's only a transition into the buildup musically, so it'd be better to express these sliders with special slidershapes for example but don't include them in the next pattern. example: http://puu.sh/yW9n9/4a09434df3.jpg I don't think the change would be that beneficial, the slidershapes are the same to 00:25:667 (1,1,1,1) - because i thought the variation was already very high at this point, and I also feel the transition is much smoother this way.
  4. 00:39:657 (1,1,2) - questionable rhythm choice here because of the strong drum at 00:39:948 -, i understand that 00:39:851 (1,2) - follow the wubs but they are much more quiet compared to 00:39:268 (1,2) - and the drums are dominating here imo. also this pattern looks rather messy so it feels a bit like an afterthought. maybe consider a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/yW9z0/98b7d282cc.jpg ? I really like the current rhythm pattern, it's meant to follow the wub sounds because that is what stands out most to me. So in that regard, I don't think that needs change. Did change the first overlap sliders however, got several complains about that one already.
  5. 00:45:097 (5,6) - why is it the same rhythm and pattern as 00:44:320 (3,4) - ? the earlier pattern follows the melody well and it makes sense to do so because the whole section follows melody, but here 00:45:097 (5,6) - the long melody note still holds on and there's no repetition so i don't think the same rhythm or even same pattern fits here. i would recommend (again) to follow the drums here as they are the most prominent instrument besides the hold note of the melody.I am pretty sure that the flute sounds on 00:45:097 (5,6) - are rhythmically identical to the main melody at 00:44:320 (3,4) -, so that is what i went for.
  6. 00:54:715 (3,1,2,3) - pretty unintuitive to read imo, because it's hard to guess the triplet starts from a blue tick and it's difficult to predict on which kind of tick the slow slider will end. i think it would help to let the slider end at 00:55:298 - instead, so you have a double more intuitively leading into the blue tick pattern. That doesn't really work for me because I really want all of the kicks to be played. I agree that this isn't the most intuitive pattern, but this section in general is a tricky one and with how i layed it out, I don't think it's too much of a hassle.
  7. 01:01:515 (1,2,1,2) - variety is nice but this feels way too different from 00:55:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - and since it's a calm section without so much happening i think most players will notice this, too. in general, it strikes me as odd that you decided to follow the 1/8 triplet here 01:01:515 (1,2) - while you ignored almost every instance of 1/8 triplets in the whole map (00:55:201 - 00:53:160 - 00:51:995 - 00:46:166 - etc). so yeah, i'd suggest doing something similar to the earlier pattern or atleast getting rid of the 1/8-slider. did it actually because it was a last of its kind and i wanted to highlight that, but i guess it forced me to change too much
  8. 01:15:408 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - minor, but the pattern seems a bit too chaotic (in terms of overlaps and degree of curve of the sliders) for such a straight-forward buildup. it would help to copy-paste and rotate the sliders so the slidercurves are consistent, and also somehow avoid this overlap 01:16:185 (1,1) -. i won't put an example screenshot here because i feel that you can make something without much effort that fits your style much better than what i'd do
  9. 01:31:535 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - i like this pattern, but i think it could be even better if it'd follow the pitch of the melody. the pitch reaches its peak at 01:31:729 - and 01:32:118 - and then jumps down again, so a pattern that groups the first 3 notes in the measure together and then 4 each would be awesome (the NCing would look like this http://puu.sh/yWanv/505a034b88.jpg and the jumps would need to be changed accordingly). that seems like a bad idea to me. i think the current 4-grouping is a technically more sound solution, the melodies for 01:31:535 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:31:923 (1,2,3,4) - each form a unit and cutting through these with your suggestion would kinda destroy it, at least for me (also new NCs on blue ticks is kind of a big question mark to me lol).
  10. 01:40:958 (2,3) - stacking (3) under (2)'s tail like here 01:42:513 (2,3) - would make this pattern more intuitive, right now it feels kinda weird to slow down for the halfbeat gap afterwards
  11. 01:51:936 (1,2,3) - this pattern feels underwhelming to play due to the spacings, even though it sticks out in the music due to the strong drums compared to the parts around it. i don't have a simple pattern suggestion in mind right now but anything with large jumps would work fine tried to increase it, but i really like the pattern and movement that goes with it
Cool map, it's very exciting and plays nicely, especially the beginning part and the kiai. Sometimes I felt it has a little too much variety in rhythm and patterning, since the song already provides huge variety it would be a better choice to hold the map together by mapping same groups of sounds the same way imo. I really liked Chaoz' and Yauxo's diffs btw. Good luck! :)
thanks for the insightful mod mixo, applied quite a few of the suggestions :)
xLolicore-
chaoz's diff is the best one imo, take some of my stars
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