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Rieri

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2017-11-18T06:14:56+00:00

23:58 *ProEzreal is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1379446 Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Extra]]
23:58 Revia: 앜ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
23:59 ProEzreal: 00:10:467 (1) - 여기 뉴콤빼고 00:10:783 (2) - 여기다가 하실 생각 없으신가요
00:01 ProEzreal: 00:22:467 (1,2) - 블랭킷 조정해주셈요
00:02 ProEzreal: 00:27:204 (6,7) - 여기에다가는 뉴콤을 안하셨는데 00:37:309 (1,2) - 여기에다는 하셨네요
00:02 ProEzreal: 6,7에도 해주는게 좋을듯해요
00:03 ProEzreal: 00:29:414 (5) - 이건 좀 더 떨어지게 하는게 좋을거에요.. 첨에 다 이어져있는줄알고 좀 빨리눌러서 콤보 깨질뻔하ㅁ
00:04 Revia: 네넵
00:04 Revia: 다고쳤어여
00:04 Revia: 마지막 빼고 다 고쳤어요!
00:04 ProEzreal: 01:01:625 (2,3,4) - 이걸 00:59:098 (1,2,3) - 이거랑 컨셉 이어주면 좋을듯
00:04 Revia: 쿠도수
00:04 Revia: 필요하심녀
00:05 Revia: 올리셈 이거
00:05 ProEzreal: 일관성
00:05 ProEzreal: 넴
00:05 Revia: 다봐주시구
00:05 ProEzreal: ㅋㅋ
00:05 Revia: 아 저 원래 저 비슷한거 돌려쓰는거 안좋아해서..
00:06 ProEzreal: 01:04:151 (2,3,4) - 이런것도 슬라 모양들이 다 다른데 딱히 각각 의미가 없어보이고 사람마다 다르지만 안좋아 보일수도 있어욤
00:06 ProEzreal: 아하
00:06 ProEzreal: 그래도 그 2번 슬라를 곡선을 만들어주시면
00:06 ProEzreal: 01:01:625 (2) - 
00:06 ProEzreal: 그나마 일관성 있어보이게 하는게 좋을거에요
00:06 Revia: ㅏ앙
00:07 Revia: 네네넵
00:13 ProEzreal: 일단
00:13 ProEzreal: 여기까지
00:13 ProEzreal: 제가 포럼으로 올릴게욤
00:13 ProEzreal: 쿠도스 부탁드립니당

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,361 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-12-01T13:02:27+00:00

As requested.
[General]
It's better to end the spinner at the very last of each diff at one time point.
Please post metadata source on the creator's words for future references :3

[Habi's Normal]
Raise AR to 5 please for mitigating imbalance gap between the respective three most easy diffs within this mapset.
00:19:625 (1) - I think this slider is too short for Normal (180 for 4/1 but this is 190 as to BPM) Maybe just use normal notes instead.
00:54:993 (1) - ^
01:27:835 (1) - ^
00:57:519 (1,1) - I think 3/2 reverse sliders are not suitable here. It is a common sense to utilize a more intense rhythm during Kiai, but this 3/2 reverses look abridged as they results in overlooking quite a few noticeable beats. A possible solution might be: https://puu.sh/yAnp2/59e8938654.png

[Enon's Hard]
00:44:256 (5,6,7,8) - I would like to cast doubt on these four singletaps as I wonder if they really deserve such a strong emphasis. They are quite calm and smooth beats, and even softer compared to beats like 00:42:362 (1,2,3,4) - for which you placed sliders.

[Dailycare's Insane]
01:13:309 (1,2,1,2) - Why not continue placing jumps like 01:12:677 (1,2,1,2) - ? They certainly deserve that! In case you are worrying about the star difficulty, you could definitely decrease other jumps or place smaller but more jumps here.

[Beom's Insane]
00:15:519 (3,4) - This kinda triggered me. Please do this: https://puu.sh/yBIAu/a71f1a431c.png
00:41:730 (1) - Don't think it is necessary to NC here.
00:48:519 (1) - ^
00:50:888 (1) - ^ Also NC here is quite confusing.
01:06:993 (1,1) - ^ Frequent NCs are really confusing players.
01:09:835 (1) - ^
01:13:309 (1) - 01:14:572 (1) - 01:15:835 (1) - 01:17:098 (1) - ^

00:59:098 (1,2) - Too close from each other to own enough emphasis. 01:01:625 (1,2) - Same.
01:05:888 (2,3) - Put them further like 01:05:256 (2,3) - to give enough emphasis on the clap.
01:16:783 (3,1) - I think they are too far.
01:33:046 (1) - Finish on the end is pretty excessive.

[Extra]
00:25:941 (4) - Whistle.

[Ezreal's Extra]
The normal whistles in the intro part kinda triggered me.
00:06:204 (2,3) - This high spacing is not very reasonable imo. It should be at 00:05:730 (1,2) - instead for the piano.
00:16:783 (7,8) - This sudden decrease in spacing really catches me off.
00:31:625 (3,4) - Why normal claps ;w;
00:53:414 (4,5) - You might consider putting them closer. There is no any other place in this diff applied with such a large spacing for 1/4, even if with the leniency of sliders.
00:55:625 (1,2,1) - I think you don't need NC for them. What actually is in need of NC should be 00:56:098 (2) - for the enormous decrease as to SV.
Do you really need slider tick rate 2?

[Cellina's Extra]
01:20:256 (1,2) - O'blankettttt
Cool diff. Almost fc'ed at the first try.

Call me back.

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2017-12-09T07:45:19+00:00

Regraz wrote:
As requested.

[Habi's Normal]
Raise AR to 5 please for mitigating imbalance gap between the respective three most easy diffs within this mapset.
00:19:625 (1) - I think this slider is too short for Normal (180 for 4/1 but this is 190 as to BPM) Maybe just use normal notes instead. // Remove spiner
00:54:993 (1) - ^ // Remove spiner
01:27:835 (1) - ^ // Remove spiner
00:57:519 (1,1) - I think 3/2 reverse sliders are not suitable here. It is a common sense to utilize a more intense rhythm during Kiai, but this 3/2 reverses look abridged as they results in overlooking quite a few noticeable beats. A possible solution might be: https://puu.sh/yAnp2/59e8938654.png // Better for now :3

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Rieri

905 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2017-12-13T03:17:37+00:00

Regraz wrote:
As requested.

[Ezreal's Extra]
The normal whistles in the intro part kinda triggered me. It was to differentiate the supporting melody with the main melody, I'll fix either the volume or the sounds itself
00:06:204 (2,3) - This high spacing is not very reasonable imo. It should be at 00:05:730 (1,2) - instead for the piano. fixed it up
00:16:783 (7,8) - This sudden decrease in spacing really catches me off. It's to represent the pitch descending.
00:31:625 (3,4) - Why normal claps ;w; switched to soft
00:53:414 (4,5) - You might consider putting them closer. There is no any other place in this diff applied with such a large spacing for 1/4, even if with the leniency of sliders. fix fix
00:55:625 (1,2,1) - I think you don't need NC for them. What actually is in need of NC should be 00:56:098 (2) - for the enormous decrease as to SV. changed.
Do you really need slider tick rate 2? I feel like that I should for the long sliders that I have

Call me back.

okdad

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Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-12-13T07:52:53+00:00

Regraz wrote:
[Beom's Insane]
00:15:519 (3,4) - This kinda triggered me. Please do this: https://puu.sh/yBIAu/a71f1a431c.png - I don't know why but ok
00:41:730 (1) - Don't think it is necessary to NC here.
00:48:519 (1) - ^
00:50:888 (1) - ^ Also NC here is quite confusing.
01:06:993 (1,1) - ^ Frequent NCs are really confusing players. - I agree only in this part, fixed.
01:09:835 (1) - ^
01:13:309 (1) - 01:14:572 (1) - 01:15:835 (1) - 01:17:098 (1) - ^

00:59:098 (1,2) - Too close from each other to own enough emphasis. 01:01:625 (1,2) - Same. - I intended to minimize movement, there's no special reason here but I heard the song so and imo this will not be a big problem. (This doesn't mean that I acknowledge this as a problem.)
01:05:888 (2,3) - Put them further like 01:05:256 (2,3) - to give enough emphasis on the clap.- 01:05:098 (1) - I felt weak intensity 01:05:730 - here ("ko" sound) and 01:06:046 - here so I think it makes enough sense.
01:16:783 (3,1) - I think they are too far. - This isn't seriously difficult to play I guess.
01:33:046 (1) - Finish on the end is pretty excessive. - there's no finish here already :thumbsup:

about NC, I just made the cycle shorter.
as far as I know this type of NC is allowed so I don't feel the need to fix it, also I didn't feel uncomfortable at all.
(This may seem aesthetic... at least to me.)
I'm sorry but if you want to make me understand, do it.
then the decision will be made next

I want to quit this game

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Beatmap Nominator

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Joined May 2012

Dailycare 2017-12-14T04:03:27+00:00

It seems to be better to change the jump pattern so circles are just replaced by four 1/4s. Thanks for the check.

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56888
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Hotaru Murasaki
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:Revia
Version:Dailycare's Insane
Source:Re:LieF〜親愛なるあなたへ〜
Tags:rask relief retryment opening op short eroge visual novel 甘利紗陽 Cellina ProEzreal Beomsan Dailycare Enon HabiHolic Len
BeatmapID:1407446
BeatmapSetID:651062

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.7
OverallDifficulty:6.7
ApproachRate:8.7
SliderMultiplier:1.18
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Re.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

Topic Starter

YooA 2017-12-14T09:01:15+00:00

All fixed!!

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,361 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-12-15T15:01:14+00:00

Recheck, NO KUDOSU

[General]
Kiai consistency?

[Habi's Normal]
00:19:625 (4) - NC

[Beom's Insane]
01:33:046 (1) -I still think it is necessary to lower the spacing a bit.

[Ezreal's Extra]
I still think the normals whistles are beyond what I can abide.
00:05:730 (1,2) - It is good to see you enlarged the spacing but the flow is pretty broken. Please change the placment somehow.
00:31:625 (3,4) - Lower the volume a bit for them.
For the slider tick rate: what do you mean by I feel like that I should for the long sliders that I have ?

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Rieri

905 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2017-12-16T07:18:03+00:00

Regraz wrote:
Recheck, NO KUDOSU

[Ezreal's Extra]
I still think the normals whistles are beyond what I can abide. I've removed some of it, I won't remove the rest however. want to keep those for the minimum
00:05:730 (1,2) - It is good to see you enlarged the spacing but the flow is pretty broken. Please change the placment somehow. this is to contrast the high pitch and the low pitch of the instrumentals
00:31:625 (3,4) - Lower the volume a bit for them. done
For the slider tick rate: what do you mean by I feel like that I should for the long sliders that I have ? A lot of 1/1 sliders used but there's a lot of instrumental echoing going on which makes me feel like the slider ticks should be there to complement it.

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afaf

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YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

Topic Starter

YooA 2017-12-16T11:12:46+00:00

Regraz wrote:
Recheck, NO KUDOSU

[General]
Kiai consistency?

[Habi's Normal]
00:19:625 (4) - NC

[Beom's Insane]
01:33:046 (1) -I still think it is necessary to lower the spacing a bit.

[Ezreal's Extra]
I still think the normals whistles are beyond what I can abide.
00:05:730 (1,2) - It is good to see you enlarged the spacing but the flow is pretty broken. Please change the placment somehow.
00:31:625 (3,4) - Lower the volume a bit for them.
For the slider tick rate: what do you mean by I feel like that I should for the long sliders that I have ?

Call me back.

all fixed :>

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,361 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-12-16T15:54:08+00:00

[Ezreal's Extra]
I think Stack Leniency 2 is not tolerable from my end. Needs to be at least 4.

call me back

Rieri

905 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2017-12-17T19:30:32+00:00

Regraz wrote:
[Ezreal's Extra]
I think Stack Leniency 2 is not tolerable from my end. Needs to be at least 4.

call me back

revia will fix.

YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

Topic Starter

YooA 2017-12-18T03:38:23+00:00

Regraz wrote:
[Ezreal's Extra]
I think Stack Leniency 2 is not tolerable from my end. Needs to be at least 4.

call me back

fixedddddddddddddd

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,361 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-12-19T04:48:59+00:00

Seems the SL is back on a normal value. Bubbled!

YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

Topic Starter

YooA 2017-12-19T04:56:37+00:00

Thanks!!! :>

Euny

2,274 posts

Joined January 2014

Euny 2017-12-23T13:07:50+00:00

내가 발견한 보석같은 매퍼. 궁디퉁탁퉁탁

YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

Topic Starter

YooA 2017-12-23T13:55:12+00:00

Euny wrote:
내가 발견한 보석같은 매퍼. 궁디퉁탁퉁탁

앜ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 고마워 ㅎ

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-12-24T14:10:48+00:00

general
Make combo color consistent

easy od2 ar3 hp2

habi's normal od4 ar5

enon's hard od6

dailycare's insane od 7

beom's insane
01:16:783 (3,1) - the spacing is too big, try to reduce it a bit

extra
01:16:941 (3,1) - this is really uncomfortable to play, reduce the spacing a lot

Ezreal's Extra black combo color is a no

Len

2,812 posts

Joined June 2012

Len 2017-12-24T14:18:54+00:00

i think its k since my diff isnt easy i wanted to make a bit harder so i did +0.5
but agree that normals what you pointed

YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

Topic Starter

YooA 2017-12-24T15:13:50+00:00

Natsu wrote:
general
Make combo color consistent

easy od2 ar3 hp2
fixed

habi's normal od4 ar5
fixed

enon's hard od6
fixed

dailycare's insane od 7
fixed

extra
01:16:941 (3,1) - this is really uncomfortable to play, reduce the spacing a lot

i think current distance with pattern is fine with this diff.
much of people test play my diff and no one said its hard to play. i really want to keep this pattern but also if it will be problem for rank because of i deny your suggestion, then of course, ill fix.

thanks for your mod :>

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-12-24T16:32:18+00:00

The thing is that the rest is super easy to play compared to the pattern, reducing the spacing a bit would do

Rieri

905 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2017-12-24T19:51:16+00:00

would have been better if you explained why the black was a no lmao

made it a lighter shade for now

up

osu file format v14

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Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-12-24T21:10:41+00:00

Because it’s too hard to see with the dim thing

YooA

80 posts

Joined September 2011

Topic Starter

YooA 2017-12-26T04:26:36+00:00

Natsu wrote:
beom's insane
01:16:783 (3,1) - the spacing is too big, try to reduce it a bit
fixed

extra
01:16:941 (3,1) - this is really uncomfortable to play, reduce the spacing a lot
fixed

:>

Rieri

905 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2017-12-26T04:28:04+00:00

Also I have different combo colors to differentiate parts of the song effectively. It's dependent on the mapper tho

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-12-31T10:27:26+00:00

OK

Euny