KANA-BOON - Baton Road · forum

anna apple

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-09-28T00:46:33+00:00

squirrelpascals wrote:
Hi, part 2

bor
• 00:18:182 (7,1) - would feel more structure with symmetry here, since you have 2 near-exact curves mirroring eachother they already are the same slider

• 00:35:960 (6,1) - really awkward overlap, the way you chose to satack this just makes it feel very cluttered. better alternative its not awkward for me

• 00:36:700 (2,3) - would recommend doing something here to point out the 3/4 gap because this is different from whats usually played. More spacing, nc, something to indicate this I already did something, I made the travel angle for the double opposing to the incoming angle

• 00:41:145 (2,3) - going to assume this is mapped to vocals because of your rhythm choice on 00:40:589 (1,2) - , but i dont agree with the way you choose to 00:40:589 - 00:41:145 - 00:41:515 - to end before the next vocal (so its clickable) but you chose to put 00:41:700 - on a slidertail. The last one would be better clickable adjusted

• 01:02:256 (3,4) - same as 00:36:700 (2,3) - , this is even more misreadable though because of the faster pace during the kiai the spacing here is much higher than the previous 1/2 plus angles

• 01:04:386 (6,1) - angle this toward 01:04:663 (2) - or sliderhead of 01:04:849 (3) - , right now the way you have it looks kinda unstructured compared to objects around it. better done at 01:09:571 (2,3,4,5) - looks kinda structured to me, why not say something about how 01:05:867 (8,1) - looks, they do similar concept.

• 01:14:108 (4,5) - seems like really low spacing, would rather more spacing contrast between this and 01:14:015 (3,4) - same for 01:17:812 (1,2) - 01:18:553 (5,6) - (strange overlap choice there in general) spacing after a slider is arbitrary, there is a halt ish motion on doubles so notes after are unique regardless of spacing

• 01:27:812 (8,9,1) - why the sharper curve here than 01:26:886 (2,3,4) - 01:27:256 (5,6,7) - ? the way this doesn't fit in with the previous again makes it look misstructured it looks structured to me

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bor
• 00:32:812 (3) - feel like this slider would work better if it started on 00:32:997 - because of that guitar strum thing that would go better with a hold rhythm. not following the guitar

• 00:47:812 (4,1) - putting this to the left of this sliderend 00:47:812 (4) - would show more structure because it would give better symmetry with 00:47:256 (2,3) - I changed a rhythm here and now it happens to be less symmetry

• 01:00:034 (1,2,3) - i think if you simplified your rhythm here it would be more consistent with 00:52:626 (1,2,3) - and kinda 00:57:256 (2,3,1) - because the vocals do the shame kind of rhythm here I don't see issue

• 01:11:886 (1,2,3) - flow is very off here and there are weird corners on sliderend of 1 and sliderhead of 3. i think placing 2 like this would make the pattern feel more natural for the player to hit flow is good here, just like 00:43:552 (1,2) -

• 01:14:108 (3) - i dont know why you chose to map the reverse arrow on the blue tick like this, it seems to be placed surrounding noticable drum beats but not ON them, and its also confusing because its the first time you used this rhythm. the melodic instrument is the guitar right here so that's what I'm following

normal

sorry I took too long to respond

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-10-01T10:21:52+00:00

@squirrelpascals

• 00:08:923 (7,8,1,2) - not a fan of the kickslider > circle change here because it feels as if you're recognizing both the drums and vocals with 7,8. then at 1,2 you purely recognize vocals by leaving 00:09:386 - 00:09:571 - empty. long story short it feels inconsistent The NC helps to separate them, also I think the way its set up the kicksliders relate with the 1/4 stream and the two circles help to come out of the drum focus rhythm.

• 00:37:997 (1,2,3) - might introduce nice circular triangular flow if you flipped the triangle this way i prefer this flow cuz it creates a linear movement parallel with 00:37:441 (5,6,1,2) - which is more enjoyable imo than creating a wide angle with 6>1>2 (in 3's location)

@nao

monstrata
ok so given that the rest of the map is completely logical and also EXACTLY THE SAME as when it was 5.2 stars or whatever, it's REALLY OBVIOUS that the jumps were added just to raise the SR to maintain the top diff sr, and as a result are completely disproportionate and illogical in the context of the map as a whole.

not to mention you didnt even get the highest sr -_- Added some bigger jumps

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Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Gero 2017-10-01T19:32:19+00:00

Enough time already. I didn't want to do this, but since some others didn't posted their changes or at the least send me a message about if they're still interested on working in their difficulties, I'll proceed to delete them.

Last chance to them. Waiting at the moment.

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-10-01T19:55:08+00:00

http://puu.sh/xNBNS/cf88a881cf.txt

Fixed all except last suggestion, I feel like the 1/4 is there haha

Mekki

1,793 posts

Joined November 2014

Mekki 2017-10-02T17:51:15+00:00

squirrelpascals wrote:
Part. Number. Three.

light insane
• 00:06:330 (5,6,7) - this stack gets in the way of the even spacing between 00:05:960 (3,4,5) - and the aesthetic. move it down and to the right so it looks even with circle 5

• 00:19:849 (6,7,1) - same here

• 00:34:108 - doesnt feel right to skip this vocal since the slider of 00:33:367 (1) - emphasizes it

• 00:40:589 (1,2) - 00:43:552 (1,2) - again with stacks REEEE, just space these two tho

• 01:14:478 (6,1,2) - this makes flow kind of jagged, would be better if you put 1 right in front of the slidertail like this

• 01:22:997 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this stream seems like a lot because you never really use anything more than a triple until this, then its like 9 notes all at once and big diff spike. replace with something simpler

marianna
• 00:08:552 (3,4) - since vocals stop here and there's a snare roll, maybe replace this rhythm with something different? suggesting so it doesnt make the jumps feel too forced on the intense vocal parts

• 00:11:145 (1,2,3,4) - the 1/2 sliders here also sound like they can be varied, there is a kick on 00:11:330 - and a potential triple at 00:11:886 - so it just feels strange to stick to 1/2 sliders here

• 00:55:219 (4,5,1) - really big difference in spacing here feels weird to play, can you make the two jumps spaced more similar

• 01:04:478 - Don't leave sliderends on the downbeats like this, since it starts off a new measure it takes more priority. also guitar, vocal and drum beat here to show that

• 01:22:997 (3,4,5) - same as 00:55:219 (4,5,1) -

mk
• 00:37:626 (5,1) - would sound better ctrl+g imo, i think this prioritizes the snare and guitar note better unccorforrtaable junp

• 00:57:626 (3) - turn this into a triple? it feels strange because this is the only times you use a kickslider like this, lol semms fin for me lol

• 01:14:478 - the way you totally skip this beat feels awkward, its a pretty powreful snare + guitar note i liek to foloow the bakground bets like dat

sh1n1
• 00:23:737 (3) - it feels strange how the vocal lands on that reverse arrow after you follow 00:22:997 (1,2) - these vocals with 1/2 sliders, try circle + 1/2 slider maybe

• 00:31:701 (4,1,2) - fix blanket

• 00:41:515 (2,3) - picky, but maybe rotate this to the right a tiny bit so its on the same axis as 00:41:145 (1) -

polka
• 00:13:923 (4,5) - i think ctrl+g works better here because it prioritizes this bass note 00:13:923 - better (with a held slider) and the snare at 00:14:293 - with a clickable

• 00:46:700 (2) - i think this works better as 2 1/1 sliders because 00:46:700 and 00:47:441 - are two different vocal phrases

• 01:10:219 (5,6) - disagree with sliderend on this downbeat, because of the exaggerated vocal + snare here. also, if you're trying to map to drums here consider also mapping the snare at 01:10:774 - somehow

• 01:23:552 (1) - the way you continue this repeat slider pattern feels forced, because you map to the drums at 01:22:071 (5,7) - but that just makes this one confusing. if you want a hold rhythm for the vocals i'd recommend just a 1/1 slider

• 01:25:960 (8) - make this wave slider symmetric reeeee

hazu
• 00:42:997 (3) - make this wave slider symmetric, the tail is a bit less curvy

• 00:47:441 - i'd like it if 00:47:441 - were clickable also because of the way you prioritized it with a circle on 00:46:700 (4) -

• 01:27:441 (4,5) - rhythm here feels strange because you're not able to map to these snares like the two circles before, it would be better though if you found a way to make that sliderend clickable

bor
• 00:32:812 (3) - feel like this slider would work better if it started on 00:32:997 - because of that guitar strum thing that would go better with a hold rhythm.

• 00:47:812 (4,1) - putting this to the left of this sliderend 00:47:812 (4) - would show more structure because it would give better symmetry with 00:47:256 (2,3) -

• 01:00:034 (1,2,3) - i think if you simplified your rhythm here it would be more consistent with 00:52:626 (1,2,3) - and kinda 00:57:256 (2,3,1) - because the vocals do the shame kind of rhythm here

• 01:11:886 (1,2,3) - flow is very off here and there are weird corners on sliderend of 1 and sliderhead of 3. i think placing 2 like this would make the pattern feel more natural for the player to hit

• 01:14:108 (3) - i dont know why you chose to map the reverse arrow on the blue tick like this, it seems to be placed surrounding noticable drum beats but not ON them, and its also confusing because its the first time you used this rhythm.

cosmo
• 00:38:923 - it think you would benefit more from putting something clickable here because there's an intense drum roll that starts here, so putting a sliderend here is underwhelming
thats all honestly lol

easy
• 00:30:404 (1,2) - 11 slider would probably be better here, since you usually simplify these vocals a lot more like at 00:18:552 (1) -

• 01:16:330 (1) - i feel like this slider looks too cramed, try doing something like this to make the aesthetic nicer

iyiyo
• 00:36:330 (1) - maybe split this up into 2 sliders, with another starting at 00:37:812 - ? suggesting because the drums get more intense there, so it would fit

• 01:25:219 (1) - think it would be better to start this at 01:26:700 - because the long guitar note starts there, so the spinner would represent that better if you started it there as well

when you say you'll get the rest tomorrow but you accidentally take 10 day s uuhhhh opps

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thank you
@gero: victorious, 2 more weeks b4 i reply it for u

Haruto

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Joined December 2013

Haruto 2017-10-14T23:09:02+00:00

squirrelpascals wrote:
Hi, part 2

haruto
• 00:11:978 - since you make the snare right before this clickable, it feels strange how this one isnt as well. consider moving the triple forward 1/2 a beat? right, changed the rhythm here.

• 00:12:626 (1) - would be nice to be consistent in the way you map this snare at 00:11:052 (6) - okay

• 00:33:923 (3) - you skip over the snare you usually map to here 00:34:015 - (like at 00:29:478 (3,4) - etc.) and a strong vocal on the white tick after, making this feel undermapped. Modify this pattern to make it feel otherwise i actually wanted for a different feeling here but uhh since you want it to be consistent then i changed the rhythming here as well.

will do the others

basically fixed all, thanks squirrel!
update : https://haruto.s-ul.eu/63FrJkal

Venix

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Joined February 2015

Venix 2017-10-15T20:12:53+00:00

@squirrelpascals

I don't agree about streams, there's strong 1/4 sound

@naotoshi
00:13:923 (7,1) - tbh i think there's important sound on 1

00:57:071 (1,2) - // 01:24:108 (2,3) - it's ok i guess

01:25:774 (4,6) - This spacing fits well imo lol

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Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Gero 2017-10-21T23:34:07+00:00

Waiting for Polka.

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-11-01T23:33:29+00:00

IM HERE IM HERE SORRY

@squirrel
• 00:13:923 (4,5) - i think ctrl+g works better here because it prioritizes this bass note 00:13:923 - better (with a held slider) and the snare at 00:14:293 - with a clickable

k

• 00:46:700 (2) - i think this works better as 2 1/1 sliders because 00:46:700 and 00:47:441 - are two different vocal phrases

going to drums so its alright

• 01:10:219 (5,6) - disagree with sliderend on this downbeat, because of the exaggerated vocal + snare here. also, if you're trying to map to drums here consider also mapping the snare at 01:10:774 - somehow

fixed

• 01:23:552 (1) - the way you continue this repeat slider pattern feels forced, because you map to the drums at 01:22:071 (5,7) - but that just makes this one confusing. if you want a hold rhythm for the vocals i'd recommend just a 1/1 slider

fixed

• 01:25:960 (8) - make this wave slider symmetric reeeee

wops

gero can you copy hitsounds my copiers an asshole

osu file format v14

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Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Gero 2017-11-02T00:42:05+00:00

Finally. I'll get this one Requalified soon.

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-11-02T03:17:36+00:00

Before it gets requal, don't you think that would be better to rename Polka's diff by Veridian's instead? Just a suggestion since he rename! Good luck on re-qual Gerito

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Gero 2017-11-11T22:59:43+00:00

Enough time, I'll move this forward already.

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,218 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2017-11-12T03:23:38+00:00

hooray~

Cosmolade

1,289 posts

Joined December 2012

Cosmolade 2017-11-12T17:49:09+00:00

yay finally!
Σ(￣w￣ﾉ)ﾉ

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2017-11-17T15:17:45+00:00

omg pkhg's diff is back

hype

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-11-19T21:24:58+00:00

Pachiru wrote:
Before it gets requal, don't you think that would be better to rename Polka's diff by Veridian's instead? Just a suggestion since he rename! Good luck on re-qual Gerito

I'd like to keep using polka as my gd name actually.

It's a nice name yaknow

But gero do add veridian to the tags if ya can thanks!

bite you death

Beatmap Nominator

654 posts

Joined May 2015

bite you death 2017-11-20T06:01:19+00:00

hey, about 00:53:645 (6) - in top diff; why is there a circle at this place when there isnt one at 00:56:608 - etc, i cant hear anything different really, care to explain to me?

~~(also nc at 00:11:793 (1) - seems kinda random, if anything 00:11:886 (2) - should be nced because of the pitch change idk)~~ nvm after looking through the map i realized ncs are used to distinguishing patterns, my bad.

other than that really fun diff, im looking forward to seeing it in ranked!

Lost The Lights

566 posts

Joined December 2011

Lost The Lights 2017-12-07T06:16:27+00:00

Pointed some stuff in Gero's The Pure Eye.

Some rhythm fixed and stuff.

log

03:07 Lost The Lights: estas ignorando la guitarra
03:07 Lost The Lights: en puntos donde suena MUY claro
03:07 Gero: si, estoy arreglando eso
03:07 Lost The Lights: queres una mano?
03:07 Gero: marcame donde estan
03:07 Gero: para fixearlos
03:07 Lost The Lights: 01:13:460 - 
03:07 Gero: 01:13:460 - aqui hay uno
03:07 Gero: 01:19:386 - aca
03:07 Lost The Lights: 01:19:386 - 
03:07 Gero: tambien no?
03:08 Lost The Lights: 01:25:589 - 
03:08 Lost The Lights: aca
03:08 Lost The Lights: pudiste hacer
03:08 Lost The Lights: slider nota slider
03:08 Lost The Lights: si escuchas un poquito
03:08 Lost The Lights: la guitarra hace un riff agudo
03:08 Gero: algo como 1/2 triple a blanco?
03:08 Lost The Lights: claro
03:09 Gero: perfecto
03:09 Gero: y lo demas esta bien?
03:09 Lost The Lights: a ver
03:09 Lost The Lights: dejame checkearla de vuelta
03:09 Gero: oki
03:10 Lost The Lights: 00:42:071 - 
03:10 Lost The Lights: sonido claro
03:10 Lost The Lights: de la guitarra
03:10 Lost The Lights: lo que podes hacer
03:11 Lost The Lights: es hacer 5 un slider

Gero

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Topic Starter

Gero 2017-12-07T06:56:52+00:00

bite you death

hey, about 00:53:645 (6) - in top diff; why is there a circle at this place when there isnt one at 00:56:608 - etc, i cant hear anything different really, care to explain to me? I already deleted this circle, so it should be fine.

~~(also nc at 00:11:793 (1) - seems kinda random, if anything 00:11:886 (2) - should be nced because of the pitch change idk)~~ nvm after looking through the map i realized ncs are used to distinguishing patterns, my bad. Yeah.

other than that really fun diff, im looking forward to seeing it in ranked!

Thanks a lot.

Gero

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Gero 2017-12-07T06:58:43+00:00

I've remapped some parts of the last difficulty, so it should be good enough to get it qualified once again.

Metadata: p/6188557

Updated~

Gero

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Gero 2017-12-17T06:59:45+00:00

Me: Waiting for squirrelpascals.

-Sh1n1-

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-Sh1n1- 2017-12-17T09:08:37+00:00

squirrelpascals

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squirrelpascals 2017-12-18T21:40:45+00:00

^remembering i need to recheck this every other day

squirrelpascals

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squirrelpascals 2017-12-18T22:25:22+00:00

@venix
you say that you hear strong 1/4 sounds but it sounds overmapped with effect volume turned off. im mostly concerned with this one 01:22:812 (4,5,6,7,8,9) -
also, where do the jumps at 01:25:589 (3,4,5,6) - come from in the music, i can only hear 1/1 no matter how hard i try.

i'd like more complete replies from marvollo and armin, they didn't fix much and i wnat to know why. marianna still also needs to reply lol. grrrrr

Pachiru wrote:
Before it gets requal, don't you think that would be better to rename Polka's diff by Veridian's instead? Just a suggestion since he rename! Good luck on re-qual Gerito

Shmiklak

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Shmiklak 2017-12-19T01:24:48+00:00

I didn't post anything except the update because everything was fixed. Will run through the mod later tho

Marianna

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Marianna 2017-12-19T02:15:26+00:00

squirrelpascals wrote:
marianna
• 00:08:552 (3,4) - since vocals stop here and there's a snare roll, maybe replace this rhythm with something different? suggesting so it doesnt make the jumps feel too forced on the intense vocal parts For me this jump flows very well, mixing vocal and instrumental, I see no need to follow just one of them since both are very strong in this session

• 00:11:145 (1,2,3,4) - the 1/2 sliders here also sound like they can be varied, there is a kick on 00:11:330 - and a potential triple at 00:11:886 - so it just feels strange to stick to 1/2 sliders here Fixed

• 00:55:219 (4,5,1) - really big difference in spacing here feels weird to play, can you make the two jumps spaced more similar It is for emphasis on the note with NC

• 01:04:478 - Don't leave sliderends on the downbeats like this, since it starts off a new measure it takes more priority. also guitar, vocal and drum beat here to show that Fixed

• 01:22:997 (3,4,5) - same as 00:55:219 (4,5,1) - Fixed this one

sorry for the delay @Gero >.<
Thanks @squirrelpascals <3

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Gero

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Topic Starter

Gero 2017-12-19T02:24:30+00:00

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Log with squirrelpascals

15:16 Gero: ;_;
15:16 squirrelpascals: oh shit
15:17 squirrelpascals: i was going to message you about burrito
15:24 squirrelpascals: okay ill only go over the stuff thats most important
15:24 squirrelpascals: i have like hald an hour
15:24 squirrelpascals: half
15:24 Gero: it's fine
15:25 Gero: I can wait for you more anyway
15:25 squirrelpascals: 00:05:219 (3,4,1,2,1,2) - i feel like a more 1/1 -based rhythm would fit here because the notes underneath the red ticks aren't obvious
15:25 squirrelpascals: and for 00:06:886 (2) - too
15:25 squirrelpascals: okay cool
15:25 Gero: alright keep going, I'll fix your stuff as well
15:25 squirrelpascals: okay
15:26 squirrelpascals: just tell me when youve fixed it because i wait
15:26 squirrelpascals: unless you want me to just list them one after another
15:27 squirrelpascals: • 00:25:589 (5,1) - spacing seems to get really big here all the sudden, also you should increase the spacing a little here 00:26:330 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - because the drums are louder
15:29 squirrelpascals: • 01:24:478 (3,4) - feel like it's more appropriate for this spacing to be higher because its an intense guitar part here and theres a big vocal yell to go with it
15:29 Gero: about the first two suggestions, I'm not quite agree cause vocals are like being increasing the pitch, that's why I decided to use that patern,  00:05:960 (1,2) - here 1/2 is quite noticiable on the background music, so I'd rather to keep them as they are
15:29 Gero: 00:25:589 (5,1) - Agreed
15:29 Gero: 01:24:478 (3,4) - Agreed as well
15:30 squirrelpascals: ok
15:31 squirrelpascals: 01:02:997 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this rhythm gets kind of repetitive, can you make some small variation every other beat or something
15:32 squirrelpascals: 00:51:700 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same
15:32 squirrelpascals: i dont care if its like a kickslider every other beat or something as long as it's a little different
15:33 squirrelpascals: thats the important stuff
15:33 Gero: ugh :( it'll destroy what I wanted to do that was avoiding using a lot of sliders, plus rhythm is basically the same in the whole section, but well, I can try with kicksliders
15:34 squirrelpascals: yeah i see what youre saying
15:34 squirrelpascals: it just gets kinda predicatble
15:36 Gero: for what you're saying, could you give me an example with kick sliders? cause I have no idea what you say
15:36 squirrelpascals: okay
15:37 squirrelpascals: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Few3Try.png
15:37 squirrelpascals: this would work well because kicksliders are over vocals, and its still symmetrical
15:38 squirrelpascals: at00:52:441 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
15:38 Gero: are you sure that it should be fine?
15:38 Gero: D:
15:39 Gero: should I silence the end of those kicksliders as well?
15:39 squirrelpascals: thats just an example
15:39 squirrelpascals: silencing is up to you
15:39 Gero: alright
15:39 Gero: I'll work on that stuff
15:41 squirrelpascals: okay cool
15:41 Gero: is there more stuff that should be fixed?
15:41 squirrelpascals: besides for that not yet
15:42 Gero: gotcha
15:42 Gero: I'll let you know once I get everything done
15:42 squirrelpascals: kk
15:42 Gero: thanks
15:42 squirrelpascals: npnp

squirrelpascals wrote:
Pachiru wrote:
Before it gets requal, don't you think that would be better to rename Polka's diff by Veridian's instead? Just a suggestion since he rename! Good luck on re-qual Gerito

Veridian wrote:
It's a nice name yaknow

But gero do add veridian to the tags if ya can thanks!

Also "Veridian" is on the tags already.

Gero

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Gero 2017-12-19T03:02:24+00:00

Waiting for Venix, M a r v o l l o, and A r M i N.

Updated~

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

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Shmiklak 2017-12-19T15:14:29+00:00

As I told before, I applied everything, but blame Gero, he didn't update my difficulty -__

A r M i N

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A r M i N 2017-12-19T15:27:05+00:00

squirrelpascals wrote:
armin
• 00:11:700 (2,3) - just feels strange to skip over this blue tick with a jump after you mapped the same one at 00:10:034 (3,4,5) - I focused more on the very prominent guitar sounds rather than the drumrolls ^^

• 00:35:960 (1) - downbeat on the slidertail feels like it shoudl naturally be clicked Right, fixed

• 01:14:293 (7) - feels like this slider should start at 01:14:478 - because thats where the bigger and ampped guitar strum starts done

• 01:25:589 (3,4,5) - notes 4,5 feel too vague for a triple to be here imo done

stopping here for tonight, but i got the hard ones done. ill get the rest tomorrow cuz its late8-)
probably better for my formatting anyways LOL

Sorry for not replying properly :c
I hope Its all good now :3
Now lets go for qual <3

the fix

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Venix 2017-12-19T15:30:13+00:00

@squirrelpascals
I'm not the author of hitsounds and I still can hear 1/2 here :thinking:

@Gero Could you add hitsounds to this 1/4?

Gero

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Gero 2017-12-19T23:39:11+00:00

Alright.

Fixed, and Updated~

squirrelpascals

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squirrelpascals 2017-12-20T00:45:27+00:00

i liked this thread better with the cute squirrel reaction gifs

Gero

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Gero 2017-12-20T01:03:34+00:00

Thanks a lot.

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squirrelpascals 2017-12-20T04:47:58+00:00

no prob. wont be checking a set that big any time soon :^)

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Mir 2017-12-20T14:32:34+00:00

hello, caught wind of this earlier

doesn't look like topdiff really changed all that much from what lasse/nao suggested earlier in the thread. Still ignoring 80% of the song and not doing anything with the majority of patterns movement-wise to compensate

The Pure Eye:
- 00:27:441 - 00:32:997 - ignores all the variation of the song/vocals/section changes etc etc and spams literally the same rhythm for 6 seconds. I get you're following the drums but even then you can use some variation by using changes in flow to be linear, wide-angle or whatnot instead of just constantly comfortable angle jumps
- 00:33:367 - 00:35:960 - Same pretty much except this ignores even more by using an even simpler rhythm and just symmetry that doesn't attempt to show variation through flow changes or anything either :l

-00:51:145 - the kiai is... just the same thing as the beginning of the map (^ those two sections) like, there's no change at all except for a spacing increase which is kind of underwhelming. The rhythm is basically the same and doesn't really represent the variations of the song at all and despite that there aren't even movement changes to represent it either it's actually in the most literal sense of the phrase "jump spam." Using sliders or using more harsh angles/movement for particular sounds would make for better representation:
- 00:55:960 (5,1) - 1/2 slider would be nice here and for most of these patterns
- the snare is just covered up completely with all these triples and is kinda sad when the primary focus seems to be drums 00:54:756 (2) - etc are all given the least amount of emphasis possible. Even this would be better imo: https://i.imgur.com/LyxBFpw.png and be a lot more interesting to play and represent the song in a more fun way

compare 00:56:886 - 00:59:849 - to 00:27:441 - 00:32:997 - and it's basically the same thing even though the song is clearly different. I think honestly the map could use a lot of work both rhythmically and with movement. The stacking of the triples make the same movement every single time they're used it just gets boring and repetitive and just generally not fun to play at all.

basically my issue with the topdiff is it just doesn't even follow the song, like unironically. I don't think should be ranked in its current state at all

I realize I'm basically asking you to remap this but yeah I can't put it any other way. I don't agree with the map in its fundamental state/idea/concept since that concept ignores the song itself. I'm mainly pointing out why I don't agree and giving some pointers and tips to push you in the right direction to make it more agreeable to more people. If you want more information Lasse and Nao had some good points for the topdiff but they sort of got ignored and slapped with the "subjective lol" card and then "it's symmetry stop killing unique maps".

Sure you can interpret the music with "jumps throughout the whole difficulty" but you can do that with some regards to the song right? This is taking that statement to the extreme by showing rather than telling "jumps throughout the whole difficulty = only jumps throughout the difficulty." That's what it looks like at least.

"I've decided to map it with jumps to emphasize the changes of all stanzas," you said in p/6206506 but even then your map doesn't show that change. You don't use any significantly different angles or movement or even pressure (using corners for higher strain/emphasis) to show those differences. Like, if emphasizing changes in the song is using the exact same movement pattern triple > jumps > triple > jumps for literally tens of seconds on end I don't think you really pulled off what you were trying to accomplish.

most of these streams also fail to capture the rather unique drum rhythm
^this seems to go for most I/X diffs in this set actually I'm aware that it feels a bit overmapped but it's not. Did you actually try to hear it closer? That's why I've asked a lot of friends to help me out if the rhythm I used was the correct for them.

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh they're barely audible so it's hard to say, but it's definitely audible that the snare on the blue gets glossed over pretty consistently as i stated in my point about 00:54:756 (2) - etc so using sliders to show that off would be more interesting perhaps?

anyways yeah, feel free to pm me to clarify further if necessary but i'd first redirect you to what nao/lasse said since they're basically saying the same thing as me.

ps. to clarify yes this is a veto for now

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Gero 2017-12-20T15:06:10+00:00

I'm too tired about this set already. I've deleted the last difficulty.

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Mir 2017-12-20T15:11:19+00:00

Ehm, in that case carry on I suppose..

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squirrelpascals 2017-12-20T15:53:55+00:00

well that's one way to handle a veto

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-Sh1n1- 2017-12-20T20:09:50+00:00

Monstrata is top diff again, dunno if you wanna change it into "MONSTRATA'S SAGE ART: SUPER TAILED BEAST RASENSHURIKAN" as it was before, it can be uploaded with next BN check :3 I love such diff name >.<

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