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Hanss
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 12:00:56 AM

Artist: Fear, and Loathing in Las Vegas
Title: Just Awake (TV Size)
Source: HUNTER×HUNTER
Tags: ハンター×ハンター hxh ending Nippon Animation 日本アニメーション asherz007 thetoaphster
BPM: 191
Filesize: 2606kb
Play Time: 01:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Achromatic - 4Key (4.2 stars, 976 notes)
  2. Ash's Normal - 4Key (1.98 stars, 485 notes)
  3. Toaph's Hard - 4Key (3.12 stars, 701 notes)
Download: Fear, and Loathing in Las Vegas - Just Awake (TV Size)
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Alter-
-EX-
00:02:210 (2210|3) - u should add another single note as there is a bass to equal all the other jack patterns.
00:03:467 (3467|2) - same here.
00:04:723 (4723|1) - same here.

00:10:535 (10535|1) - this LN should be moved from the white tick to the blue tick due to the high pitch sound being shorter.
00:24:514 (24514|1,24514|0,24592|2,24592|3) - perhaps change this from 1 2 - 3 4 to a 1 3 - 2 4 to add a change (lower, less bass), instead of it being the same as 00:24:200 (24200|2,24200|3,24278|1,24278|0) - (louder, drum) which both patterns do not have the same sound, might be best.
this 00:36:765 (36765|2,36765|3) - is the same as 00:36:451 (36451|1,36451|3,36451|2) - , must be consistent.
00:39:278 (39278|3,39278|2) - this should be a hand (3 notes) for the guitar sound.
00:37:393 (37393|0,37393|3) - same here.
00:37:707 (37707|0,37707|3,37707|2) - this should be switch from a hand to a jack (2 notes) due to not having the guitar.
00:38:022 (38022|0,38022|1) - here should be a jack.
00:47:760 (47760|2) - this definitely needs to be a jack, so try adding a single note next to the LN to fit the rest of those patterns.
01:18:074 (78074|0,78152|1) - this should be rethought just a bit, it feels a little unnatural with how your mapping usually was.
Topic Starter
Hanss

Alternater wrote:

-EX-
00:02:210 (2210|3) - u should add another single note as there is a bass to equal all the other jack patterns.
00:03:467 (3467|2) - same here.
00:04:723 (4723|1) - same here.

00:10:535 (10535|1) - this LN should be moved from the white tick to the blue tick due to the high pitch sound being shorter.
00:24:514 (24514|1,24514|0,24592|2,24592|3) - perhaps change this from 1 2 - 3 4 to a 1 3 - 2 4 to add a change (lower, less bass), instead of it being the same as 00:24:200 (24200|2,24200|3,24278|1,24278|0) - (louder, drum) which both patterns do not have the same sound, might be best.
this 00:36:765 (36765|2,36765|3) - is the same as 00:36:451 (36451|1,36451|3,36451|2) - , must be consistent.
00:39:278 (39278|3,39278|2) - this should be a hand (3 notes) for the guitar sound.
00:37:393 (37393|0,37393|3) - same here.
00:37:707 (37707|0,37707|3,37707|2) - this should be switch from a hand to a jack (2 notes) due to not having the guitar.
00:38:022 (38022|0,38022|1) - here should be a jack.
00:47:760 (47760|2) - this definitely needs to be a jack, so try adding a single note next to the LN to fit the rest of those patterns.
01:18:074 (78074|0,78152|1) - this should be rethought just a bit, it feels a little unnatural with how your mapping usually was. No change because I used that column so the LN dont form a trill and so a retarded mini jack doesn't come out of those patterns

Applied everything else though, thank you~
Wonki
hey

EX
00:10:613 (10613|1) - It must come down to the bottom. lol 00:10:535 -

00:36:451 - Should add to kick sound.

00:59:854 - Add note for vocal. definitely exist.

01:08:179 (68179|1) - I think it should be split accodring to the vocal sound (1/2)

01:17:917 (77917|1,77917|2) - Change it to make it easier to play.

01:18:859 (78859|1) - I think single note for this sound doesn't give the expression of ending sound, due to vocal and guitar sounds. I'd recommend to change it into LN

good luck !
Topic Starter
Hanss

Wonki wrote:

hey

00:10:613 (10613|1) - It must come down to the bottom. lol 00:10:535 - Applied

00:36:451 - Should add to kick sound. Applied

00:59:854 - Add note for vocal. definitely exist. No change, vocal already exists in column 1

01:08:179 (68179|1) - I think it should be split accodring to the vocal sound (1/2) Applied

01:17:917 (77917|1,77917|2) - Change it to make it easier to play.Applied

01:18:859 (78859|1) - I think single note for this sound doesn't give the expression of ending sound, due to vocal and guitar sounds. I'd recommend to change it into LN Applied

good luck !
Thank you <3
Toaph Daddy
o look another mod, here ya go boi

mod
2017-10-10 15:54 Noxus: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1433598 Fear, and Loathing in Las Vegas - Just Awake (TV Size)]
2017-10-10 15:54 Noxus: finished and polished
2017-10-10 15:54 Noxus: along with a alternater and wonki mod
2017-10-10 15:54 Noxus: give it a try if youd like :D
2017-10-10 15:56 TheToaphster: hmmmm
2017-10-10 15:56 TheToaphster: its interesting for sure, more interesting than your other maps lmao
2017-10-10 15:57 Noxus: not competing with much
2017-10-10 15:57 Noxus: variety in intrument charting wise
2017-10-10 15:57 Noxus: lmfao
2017-10-10 15:57 Noxus: i focused on drums for the most part
2017-10-10 15:57 TheToaphster: alright lets start this
2017-10-10 15:57 TheToaphster: 00:10:535 (10535|1,10692|3) - these could probably be LN jacks to keep PR
2017-10-10 15:58 Noxus: LN jack
2017-10-10 15:58 TheToaphster: yes
2017-10-10 15:58 Noxus: how do i even chart that
2017-10-10 15:58 Noxus: two LN on top of each other
2017-10-10 15:58 Noxus: eW
2017-10-10 15:58 TheToaphster: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9288183
2017-10-10 15:59 TheToaphster: this is with a little bit of stuff im looking at in the next measure
2017-10-10 15:59 TheToaphster: speaking of which, I assume the LNs are to the synth noise for the section right
2017-10-10 15:59 Noxus: ye
2017-10-10 16:00 Noxus: oh wait i missed a synth
2017-10-10 16:00 Noxus: in the start of it
2017-10-10 16:00 Noxus: oopS
2017-10-10 16:00 TheToaphster: because if that is so then the LNs should be 00:11:006 - 00:11:320 - 00:11:634 - and 00:11:948 -
2017-10-10 16:00 TheToaphster: not on the upbeats
2017-10-10 16:01 Noxus: I charted some of those as single notes
2017-10-10 16:01 Noxus: not LN
2017-10-10 16:01 Noxus: maybe i should switch to LN
2017-10-10 16:02 Noxus: fixed
2017-10-10 16:02 TheToaphster: well, what i meant by that is it should be something closer to this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9288206
2017-10-10 16:02 TheToaphster: since the synth is only on the downbeats
2017-10-10 16:04 Noxus: fixed
2017-10-10 16:04 TheToaphster: 00:13:519 (13519|0,13519|3,13676|1,13833|0,13833|3,13833|2,13990|3,14147|2,14147|1,14304|0,14461|3,14461|2,14461|1,14618|3,14618|1) - could probably say the same about this part (but if you want variety for this just make the patterns change or like mirror or something)
2017-10-10 16:05 TheToaphster: now starting 00:12:262 - is something a bit awkward because what i would end up doing would make this part really terrible to play almost surely
2017-10-10 16:07 Noxus: lmao
2017-10-10 16:07 TheToaphster: you remember how i suggested an LN jack earlier
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: if you accepted that, then that would kinda be how i imagine this measure to go
2017-10-10 16:08 Noxus: NO
2017-10-10 16:08 Noxus: NO
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: lmao
2017-10-10 16:08 Noxus: TOAPH
2017-10-10 16:08 Noxus: NO
2017-10-10 16:08 Noxus: LOL
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: see thats what i expected
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: i mean
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: tbf
2017-10-10 16:08 Noxus: UR SO MEAN
2017-10-10 16:08 the LN jack isnt *that* bad playability wise
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: its worse than what you have
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: but not bad by any means
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9288249
2017-10-10 16:08 TheToaphster: like, this is what i probably would have done with the measure
2017-10-10 16:09 TheToaphster: if, however, you dont want to accept my absolutely wonderful suggestion
2017-10-10 16:09 TheToaphster: why are some of the LNs jumps
2017-10-10 16:09 Noxus: wdym
2017-10-10 16:09 Noxus: im just charting keys and drums at the same time
2017-10-10 16:09 TheToaphster: 00:12:419 -
2017-10-10 16:09 TheToaphster: like here
2017-10-10 16:10 TheToaphster: why is that a jump
2017-10-10 16:10 TheToaphster: like why are there two LNs
2017-10-10 16:10 Noxus: keyboard note
2017-10-10 16:10 Noxus: hihat accent
2017-10-10 16:10 Noxus: cause i originally charted the hihat accents as LN
2017-10-10 16:10 Noxus: and you wanted it to be single notes
2017-10-10 16:11 TheToaphster: hmmmm
2017-10-10 16:11 TheToaphster: ok i see what youre talking about now
2017-10-10 16:11 TheToaphster: tho i dont know if i necessarily like the idea of mapping LNs to hihat sounds
2017-10-10 16:11 TheToaphster: it feels, weird to me
2017-10-10 16:11 Noxus: i do it too much through the map
2017-10-10 16:11 Noxus: to change it now
2017-10-10 16:11 Noxus: i prefer to leave it that way
2017-10-10 16:12 Noxus: i feel its justifiable enough
2017-10-10 16:12 TheToaphster: not really wrong in any way just a personal thing that feels weird
2017-10-10 16:12 Noxus: and just left to preference
2017-10-10 16:12 TheToaphster: hmm, ok so what did you change the 00:11:006 - measure to
2017-10-10 16:12 TheToaphster: was it what i suggested or did you keep the hihat as LNs
2017-10-10 16:14 Noxus: i changed to yours
2017-10-10 16:14 Noxus: but i kinda wanna change it back
2017-10-10 16:14 Noxus: cause i thought you noticed it before making that change
2017-10-10 16:14 Noxus: lol
2017-10-10 16:14 TheToaphster: let me look at the rest of the map really quick hold up
2017-10-10 16:15 TheToaphster: ok i looked at the rest of the map
2017-10-10 16:15 TheToaphster: and literally you only mapped LNs to the percussion hihat thing in the beginning and one section
2017-10-10 16:15 TheToaphster: which even without mapping to the hihat you could defend the placement and usage of the LNs
2017-10-10 16:15 Noxus: ye
2017-10-10 16:16 TheToaphster: so personally i dont find it would change too much of the map if you were to take out LNs for the hihats
2017-10-10 16:17 Noxus: so instead of the high hat
2017-10-10 16:17 Noxus: you want me to change it to a single note
2017-10-10 16:17 Noxus: on the upbeat
2017-10-10 16:17 Noxus: of where the LN originally started
2017-10-10 16:17 TheToaphster: especially since you showed that you were mapping LNs to the synth right before it, and hihat and synth are two veeerryy different sounds, and should probably be differentiated
2017-10-10 16:17 TheToaphster: that is my basic suggestion for the intro yeah
2017-10-10 16:18 TheToaphster: 00:51:372 - but take right here, which is the only other part of the map you put LNs on high hat sounds, you probably dont even have to change this section at all, since the synth is likely more than enough there to defend your LN usage
2017-10-10 16:19 TheToaphster: i think something that has thrown me off for a few of your maps (i recall inferno doing this to me) is that you change what instruments you focus on on a measure by measure basis, which isnt really something i enjoy from a mapping viewpoint
2017-10-10 16:23 Noxus: alright
2017-10-10 16:23 Noxus: updated
2017-10-10 16:23 Noxus: check if i missed anyhting
2017-10-10 16:24 TheToaphster: intro looks good imo
2017-10-10 16:25 TheToaphster: 00:37:393 (37393|0,37393|1,37393|3) - this not could probably be a jump since theres no kick
2017-10-10 16:25 TheToaphster: plus jump jump hand ur evil
2017-10-10 16:25 TheToaphster: oh shoot your mapping the cowbell
2017-10-10 16:25 TheToaphster: hmmmm
2017-10-10 16:25 Noxus: guitar
2017-10-10 16:26 Noxus: not cowbell
2017-10-10 16:26 TheToaphster: the guitar is why that is a hand and not a jump?
2017-10-10 16:26 Noxus: but actually that is a evil though
2017-10-10 16:26 Noxus: thought
2017-10-10 16:26 Noxus: ill justify it as cowbell LMAO
2017-10-10 16:26 TheToaphster: fuk u
2017-10-10 16:27 TheToaphster: just goootta keep ur jumptrill hands in the map dont you boi
2017-10-10 16:27 Noxus: ;3
2017-10-10 16:27 TheToaphster: well hey at least 00:37:393 (37393|3,37393|1,37393|0) - this one is fully justified in my eyes
2017-10-10 16:27 TheToaphster: 00:31:111 -
2017-10-10 16:27 TheToaphster: this
2017-10-10 16:27 TheToaphster: not the first thing i linked
2017-10-10 16:28 TheToaphster: alright moving on
2017-10-10 16:28 Noxus: OKAY ILL TAKE IT OUT
2017-10-10 16:28 Noxus: JESUS
2017-10-10 16:28 Noxus: ARE YOU HAPPY
2017-10-10 16:28 TheToaphster: yes
2017-10-10 16:28 TheToaphster: anyways
2017-10-10 16:28 TheToaphster: onto the chorus
2017-10-10 16:28 TheToaphster: this 00:46:032 (46032|1) - LN is to the synth noise thing right
2017-10-10 16:29 Noxus: ye
2017-10-10 16:29 TheToaphster: 00:46:032 (46032|1) - was the lack of synth LN here because you wanted to focus on the drums
2017-10-10 16:29 TheToaphster: fuck im bad at this
2017-10-10 16:29 TheToaphster: 00:48:074 -
2017-10-10 16:29 TheToaphster: here
2017-10-10 16:30 TheToaphster: god damnit dude highlighting notes makes me hate my life
2017-10-10 16:30 Noxus: yes
2017-10-10 16:30 TheToaphster: hmmm, alright ill accept that reasoning
2017-10-10 16:30 TheToaphster: 00:46:817 (46817|2,46974|1) - these tho i feel should probably be one LN
2017-10-10 16:30 TheToaphster: since the synth is just one note for the time of those two
2017-10-10 16:31 Noxus: no its not
2017-10-10 16:31 Noxus: listen closer bb lol
2017-10-10 16:31 TheToaphster: yes it absolutely is one note
2017-10-10 16:31 Noxus: no its not LMAO
2017-10-10 16:31 TheToaphster: i listened to it fucking 15 times
2017-10-10 16:31 Noxus: toaph i will literally fight u
2017-10-10 16:31 TheToaphster: the drums make it sound like its two separate notes
2017-10-10 16:31 TheToaphster: but i promise you
2017-10-10 16:31 TheToaphster: its one
2017-10-10 16:32 Noxus: ok
2017-10-10 16:32 Noxus: ill change it
2017-10-10 16:32 Noxus: u punk
2017-10-10 16:32 TheToaphster: good ;)
2017-10-10 16:32 TheToaphster: alright onward
2017-10-10 16:32 TheToaphster: like i said this section 00:46:817 (46817|2,46974|1) - is good owob was fun
2017-10-10 16:33 TheToaphster: 00:46:817 (46817|2,46974|1,56870|3,57027|2) - lol wanna
2017-10-10 16:33 TheToaphster: wann
2017-10-10 16:33 TheToaphster: wanna xd
2017-10-10 16:33 TheToaphster: put a ln jack here
2017-10-10 16:33 TheToaphster: for PR
2017-10-10 16:33 Noxus: stfu
2017-10-10 16:33 Noxus: :<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
2017-10-10 16:33 TheToaphster: lmao
2017-10-10 16:33 Noxus: no
2017-10-10 16:33 Noxus: im not doing that
2017-10-10 16:33 Noxus: thats WAY too ham
2017-10-10 16:33 Noxus: lol
2017-10-10 16:33 TheToaphster: 00:56:870 (56870|3,57027|2) - should have a note here
2017-10-10 16:34 Noxus: just 1?
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: 01:07:707 (67707|0,67864|2,68022|3) - these three should probs be LNs
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: and yeah
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: FUCK
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: HIGHLIGHTED NOTES
2017-10-10 16:34 Noxus: lOL
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: FUCK THIS EDITOR
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: 01:06:529 -
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: here
2017-10-10 16:34 TheToaphster: thats where there should be a note
2017-10-10 16:35 TheToaphster: when i post this i should probably take out that
2017-10-10 16:35 Noxus: fixed
2017-10-10 16:35 TheToaphster: me saying fuck the editor
2017-10-10 16:35 Noxus: lol
2017-10-10 16:35 TheToaphster: 01:09:121 (69121|0,69278|1,69435|3,69592|1,69749|0) - presumably these are synth?
2017-10-10 16:37 Noxus: yes
2017-10-10 16:37 TheToaphster: mmmk
2017-10-10 16:38 TheToaphster: it could be argued that 01:09:592 (69592|1) - shouldnt exist but because of human brains being stupid and making a sound there anyways i dont necessarilly mind it
2017-10-10 16:38 TheToaphster: 01:10:692 (70692|3) - though, that definitely should not be there
2017-10-10 16:38 TheToaphster: 01:14:618 (74618|2) - neither should this
2017-10-10 16:38 TheToaphster: 01:14:933 (74933|0) - or this?
2017-10-10 16:38 TheToaphster: 01:15:718 (75718|2) - or this
2017-10-10 16:39 TheToaphster: and 01:15:718 (75718|2,78231|2,78388|1) - these two should probably be one LN
2017-10-10 16:39 TheToaphster: sorry i selected the wrong two there
2017-10-10 16:39 TheToaphster: 01:18:074 (78074|0,78231|2) -
2017-10-10 16:39 TheToaphster: these two should be one
2017-10-10 16:40 Noxus: alright
2017-10-10 16:40 Noxus: fixed
2017-10-10 16:40 TheToaphster: and thats it for my mod
- Ly0572 -
allo et mappers
m4m with lia-tan nox-san >w<

|1|2|3|4|

NM
00:03:152 - would rearrange them to like this


00:06:294 (6294|0,6451|2,6608|1,6922|3,7079|0,7236|2,7393|1,7550|3,7707|2,7864|1,8022|0,8179|2,8336|3) - prefer following the roll here ~ change to 1/1 ln's

00:26:320 - missed a note~ if u ignore this then 00:09:985 (9985|2) - should be deleted too?

00:28:833 - ^
HD
00:11:006 - Would add another note for impact(loud sound snare cymbal and kick)

00:17:446 (17446|0,17603|3) - ctrl+h coz left part has to many ln's

00:25:299 (25299|3,25456|0,25613|3,25770|3,25770|0) - ctrl+h as well~ feels more comfy that way

00:26:320 - missed a note here ~ so add to |2| then move this 00:26:399 (26399|1) - to |4|
00:37:001 (37001|3) - move to |3| well its just annoying to have a note after a 1/2 ln
00:38:336 (38336|2,38336|3) - remove one note~ its over mapped imo

00:40:063 - suggestion for this part


00:41:320 (41320|3) - move to |2| if previous suggestion is accepted

00:41:163 (41163|2) - ln ends here 00:41:477 -

00:41:477 - suggestion


00:42:891 (42891|3) - move this here 00:42:812 -

00:43:440 - add
00:47:760 - add
01:06:765 (66765|2,66765|3) - delete one note
01:18:545 (78545|3,78545|0) - delete one note
EX
00:19:723 - maybe add here
00:31:111 (31111|2,31111|3,31268|3,31268|1,31268|0) - triple should be here 00:31:111 - then remove one note 00:31:268 (31268|1,31268|3,31268|0) -
00:34:880 (34880|1) - move to |3|
00:35:037 (35037|1) - to |1|
00:35:351 (35351|3) - to |3|
Raveille
quick mod of Ash

Ash
tbh if I could find ways to reduce the SR
00:09:906 (9906|1,9985|2) - 00:21:058 (21058|2,21137|1) - 00:21:844 (21844|1,21922|3) - turn these into 1/2 LNs
00:31:111 - im guessing this portion, the LNs represent the fast 1/4 drum sounds? so 00:31:739 (31739|2) - 00:32:995 (32995|3) - 00:34:252 (34252|2) - can be LNs

Everything else should be fine though, a bit hard to reduce the SR if 00:11:006 - this portion keeps all the 1/2 notes but I guess this is the nature of this song. gl :D
Soul Evans
IRC
2017-10-11 07:05 Soul Evans: yes haha
2017-10-11 07:08 Soul Evans: 00:06:294 (6294|3,6372|2,6451|1,6529|0,6608|2,6608|3,6686|1,6765|2,6844|3,6922|1,7001|2,7079|3,7158|1) - feels like the rolls are a bit centered around
2017-10-11 07:08 Soul Evans: the last 3 columns
2017-10-11 07:09 Soul Evans: hold on
2017-10-11 07:09 Noxus: id say it balances itself out for the rest of the patterns
2017-10-11 07:09 Noxus: im not too concerned about that
2017-10-11 07:09 Soul Evans: hmm
2017-10-11 07:10 Soul Evans: you make a point
2017-10-11 07:11 Soul Evans: 00:11:634 (11634|2,11948|2,12105|2,12262|3) - this feels a bit tricky to do i suggest 00:12:105 (12105|2,12105|1) - ctrl+H this for a better playfeild
2017-10-11 07:12 Soul Evans: did you pr the LNs lol
2017-10-11 07:13 Soul Evans: 00:18:859 (18859|1) - this would be less rigid if it was moved to 3 i feel
2017-10-11 07:13 Soul Evans: you layered this diff to be really rigid to the LNs it seems
2017-10-11 07:17 Noxus: alrighty fixed
2017-10-11 07:18 Soul Evans: the note on col 1 seems like you really cramped it up there if it's not intentional, do move it to 3 and the note in column 4 can be put on column 1 instead
2017-10-11 07:18 Soul Evans: to give some sort of ladder type of feel when they play the last verse
2017-10-11 07:20 Soul Evans: oh
2017-10-11 07:20 Soul Evans: shit
2017-10-11 07:20 Soul Evans: i forgot to include the timing stamp LOL
2017-10-11 07:20 Soul Evans: 00:19:645 (19645|3,19802|0) -
2017-10-11 07:20 Noxus: LOL
2017-10-11 07:21 Noxus: fixed :3
2017-10-11 07:22 Soul Evans: 00:23:571 - i think it's safe to say this can have a note for the beat at column 3
2017-10-11 07:22 Soul Evans: since you included chords for the same sound
2017-10-11 07:22 Noxus: oh nice catch
2017-10-11 07:22 Noxus: forgot about that
2017-10-11 07:25 Soul Evans: 00:34:409 (34409|1,34566|1,34723|1,34880|1,35037|1,35194|1) - this could be considered a 6 note anchor
2017-10-11 07:25 Soul Evans: fwiw
2017-10-11 07:26 Noxus: fixed
2017-10-11 07:26 Noxus: 00:34:566 (34566|0) -
2017-10-11 07:26 Noxus: moved to column 1
2017-10-11 07:26 Noxus: xd
2017-10-11 07:27 Soul Evans: 00:51:215 - i think you can add a note on 1 here for the specific sound
2017-10-11 07:27 Soul Evans: i don't know i never went to figure out what those sounds are called
2017-10-11 07:28 Noxus: lmao
2017-10-11 07:30 Soul Evans: 01:01:268 - same for this i guess
2017-10-11 07:30 Soul Evans: i think that's it
2017-10-11 07:33 Noxus: thx daddy
2017-10-11 07:33 Noxus: throw it in the forum so i can give you some pp
2017-10-11 07:33 Soul Evans: aren't you my daddy technically
2017-10-11 07:34 Noxus: no i suck ass
Topic Starter
Hanss
00:19:723 - maybe add here - No change i dont think that note is loud or relevant enough to put in since itll make the pattern obnoxious
00:31:111 (31111|2,31111|3,31268|3,31268|1,31268|0) - triple should be here 00:31:111 - then remove one note 00:31:268 (31268|1,31268|3,31268|0) - I'd prefer to avoid minijack jumptrills and im not removing a note from the triple chord cause that's a snare drum and all my snare drums are hands
00:34:880 (34880|1) - move to |3|- was already in column 3 ?_?
00:35:037 (35037|1) - to |1|- Applied
00:35:351 (35351|3) - to |3| - Applied
Toaph Daddy

- Ly0572 - wrote:

allo et mappers
m4m with lia-tan nox-san >w<

|1|2|3|4|

HD
00:11:006 - Would add another note for impact(loud sound snare cymbal and kick) mmmk

00:17:446 (17446|0,17603|3) - ctrl+h coz left part has to many ln's mimics earlier pattern/mirrors earlier pattern, won't change unless theres enough discomfort with both sections

00:25:299 (25299|3,25456|0,25613|3,25770|3,25770|0) - ctrl+h as well~ feels more comfy that way changed the first 3 notes, but im keeping the last two the way they are in favor of holding PR

00:26:320 - missed a note here ~ so add to |2| then move this 00:26:399 (26399|1) - to |4| awkward, since this is an HD diff, I kept triplets while holding LNs out of it for the sake of keeping spikes out (though maybe that's not too big of a deal, I'll discuss with some people about that)
00:37:001 (37001|3) - move to |3| well its just annoying to have a note after a 1/2 ln hmmm, alright
00:38:336 (38336|2,38336|3) - remove one note~ its over mapped imo i dont knoooooow that sound is preeetty loud

00:40:063 - suggestion for this part did something similar, but changed around the patterns a little bit from your suggestion


00:41:320 (41320|3) - move to |2| if previous suggestion is accepted not necessary imo

00:41:163 (41163|2) - ln ends here 00:41:477 - sure

00:41:477 - suggestion did something similar


00:42:891 (42891|3) - move this here 00:42:812 - HD diff - three note bursts (especially with the short LN patterning here) would likely be pretty hard compared to the rest

00:43:440 - add see above
00:47:760 - add sure
01:06:765 (66765|2,66765|3) - delete one note sound is clearly louder + kick so it should be represented by a jump
01:18:545 (78545|3,78545|0) - delete one note sure
thanks for the mod! Will send the new .osu to Noxus shortly for him to update
riunosk
mod requested 1234
ashy
00:09:514 (9514|3) - might be better if placed at 2 for easier reading
00:11:006 (11006|3,11006|1) - 24 seems rather awkward to begin, why not try 14?
00:23:885 (23885|3,23964|0,24200|2,24278|1,24514|0,24592|3) - rather oddly timed, might be better to follow the piano instead
00:30:482 (30482|0,30639|1,30796|2) - what are these 3 LNs following? i can't really tell
01:13:126 (73126|2) - seems oddly snapped, was it meant to be on the red line?
Decent chart
ToaphhpaoT
00:12:577 (12577|0,12577|1,12577|2) - snares seem to be mapped as doubles, but here it's triples. consistency error?
00:13:205 (13205|1,13205|0,13205|2) - ^ and so forth, will not mention this
00:42:105 - you mapped the double kick sound before, why not continue it?
Consistency errors, look out for them as they are almost all over the chart
EX EX EX EX
00:08:728 (8728|0,8807|0) - might be better to avoid this kind of pattern when there are additional trills ahead, generally this pattern is found when the jumptrill ends
00:09:985 (9985|0,10063|0) - same goes
00:12:419 - quite the focus on col 1
00:17:917 (17917|1,17917|3,17917|0) - its a kick, not a snare, no reason for this to be a triple
00:18:859 - missing note for snare
00:19:488 - ^
00:20:116 - ^
00:31:268 (31268|1,31425|1,31582|1,31739|1) - anchor
00:32:367 (32367|2,32524|2,32681|2,32838|2) - ^
00:33:624 (33624|1,33781|1,33938|1,34095|1) - ^
00:34:095 (34095|3,34252|3,34409|3,34566|3,34723|3,34880|3) - ^
00:36:294 (36294|2,36451|2,36608|2,36765|2,36922|2,37079|2) - ^
00:39:121 (39121|2,39278|2,39435|2,39592|2) - ^
00:41:163 (41163|2,41320|2,41477|2,41634|2,41791|2) - ^
00:43:205 (43205|2,43362|2,43519|2,43676|2) - ^
00:43:990 - for this i think it's better to continue the pattern that i'm seeing at 00:44:304 - instead of suddenly cutting it at the start
00:48:859 (48859|2) - probably better to move to col 1 to balance the hands due to 00:48:388 (48388|2,48545|2) - and 00:49:330 (49330|2,49488|2,49645|2) -
01:13:519 (73519|0) - similar to above but col 2
01:14:461 (74461|2,74461|0,74461|1) - doesn't sound like a snare to me
Multiple issues of all sorts, look out for anchors as well
gud luk for renk
Toaph Daddy

riunosk wrote:

mod requested 1234
ToaphhpaoT
00:12:577 (12577|0,12577|1,12577|2) - snares seem to be mapped as doubles, but here it's triples. consistency error? check
00:13:205 (13205|1,13205|0,13205|2) - ^ and so forth, will not mention this check
00:42:105 - you mapped the double kick sound before, why not continue it? so instead of continuing to map the kick sound, I took it out in favor of avoiding triplet patterns while holding LNs down

checked through the rest of the chart to make sure everything looked alright, fixed any consistency errors I found, thanks!
Consistency errors, look out for them as they are almost all over the chart
Topic Starter
Hanss

riunosk wrote:

mod requested 1234

00:08:728 (8728|0,8807|0) - might be better to avoid this kind of pattern when there are additional trills ahead, generally this pattern is found when the jumptrill ends Applied
00:09:985 (9985|0,10063|0) - same goes Applied
00:12:419 - quite the focus on col 1- Fixed
00:17:917 (17917|1,17917|3,17917|0) - its a kick, not a snare, no reason for this to be a triple - Fixed
00:18:859 - missing note for snare Applied
00:19:488 - ^ - Applied
00:20:116 - ^ - Applied
00:31:268 (31268|1,31425|1,31582|1,31739|1) - anchor - Fixed
00:32:367 (32367|2,32524|2,32681|2,32838|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:33:624 (33624|1,33781|1,33938|1,34095|1) - ^ - Fixed
00:34:095 (34095|3,34252|3,34409|3,34566|3,34723|3,34880|3) - ^ - Fixed
00:36:294 (36294|2,36451|2,36608|2,36765|2,36922|2,37079|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:39:121 (39121|2,39278|2,39435|2,39592|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:41:163 (41163|2,41320|2,41477|2,41634|2,41791|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:43:205 (43205|2,43362|2,43519|2,43676|2) - ^ - Fixed
00:43:990 - for this i think it's better to continue the pattern that i'm seeing at 00:44:304 - instead of suddenly cutting it at the start
00:48:859 (48859|2) - probably better to move to col 1 to balance the hands due to 00:48:388 (48388|2,48545|2) - and 00:49:330 (49330|2,49488|2,49645|2) - - Fixed
01:13:519 (73519|0) - similar to above but col 2 - Fixed
01:14:461 (74461|2,74461|0,74461|1) - doesn't sound like a snare to me - Fixed
Multiple issues of all sorts, look out for anchors as well - Fixed
gud luk for renk
Thanks for the mod! <3
Asherz007

- Ly0572 - wrote:

allo et mappers
m4m with lia-tan nox-san >w<

|1|2|3|4|

NM
00:03:152 - would rearrange them to like this sure owo)b


00:06:294 (6294|0,6451|2,6608|1,6922|3,7079|0,7236|2,7393|1,7550|3,7707|2,7864|1,8022|0,8179|2,8336|3) - prefer following the roll here ~ change to 1/1 ln's lol xD I was trying to do anything but the 1/1 LN spam qwq so I followed just the kicks and the piano here.

00:26:320 - missed a note~ if u ignore this then 00:09:985 (9985|2) - should be deleted too?

00:28:833 - ^ I was thinking to have that early 1/4 in because it was surrounded by a break, so it's not going to be too bad if the player missed this note. (also trying to keep SR down ._.)

Raveille wrote:

quick mod of Ash

Ash
tbh if I could find ways to reduce the SR
00:09:906 (9906|1,9985|2) - 00:21:058 (21058|2,21137|1) - 00:21:844 (21844|1,21922|3) - turn these into 1/2 LNs But that makes the map super boring by eliminating the LNs and I dun want that uwu
00:31:111 - im guessing this portion, the LNs represent the fast 1/4 drum sounds? so 00:31:739 (31739|2) - 00:32:995 (32995|3) - 00:34:252 (34252|2) - can be LNs idk... yes, there are 1/4s here, but there nowhere near as audible as the ones that are mapped as LNs.

Everything else should be fine though, a bit hard to reduce the SR if 00:11:006 - this portion keeps all the 1/2 notes but I guess this is the nature of this song. gl :D I was trying to keep that damned SR down xD

riunosk wrote:

mod requested 1234
ashy
00:09:514 (9514|3) - might be better if placed at 2 for easier reading Fair point. Was just a little concerned about the OH movement for this one.
00:11:006 (11006|3,11006|1) - 24 seems rather awkward to begin, why not try 14? Yeah, the previous notes were [14] as well but oh well xD
00:23:885 (23885|3,23964|0,24200|2,24278|1,24514|0,24592|3) - rather oddly timed, might be better to follow the piano instead Hmm...
probably gonna need some more opinions on this one. I mean, the section doesn't really follow piano at all for this section, so might be a little odd to start following it again. (plus variation cus everyone knows constant js at this speed kinda sux)

00:30:482 (30482|0,30639|1,30796|2) - what are these 3 LNs following? i can't really tell Guitar whilst also covering that 1/4 drum roll
01:13:126 (73126|2) - seems oddly snapped, was it meant to be on the red line? Nope, deliberate. I thought the snare on the 1/4 was more prominent that the one on the 1/2, hence why the note's there
Decent chart thanks owo)b

gud luk for renk
Thanks guys!
Update sent through discord

Nox pls leave the end of muh diff alone ._.
Falcon
Mod requested.
(0/1/2/3)
Ash's NM (Done)
00:07:079 (7079|0) - I don't know what the LN follows here. I think it flows better as a NM.
00:09:592 - The tone of the drum rolls changes here slightly, but you could still continue the LN pattern by putting one on 3 (screencapped for reference).

00:26:241 (26241|1,28755|1) - Could be changed to LNs to follow the drum rolls.
00:29:226 (29226|2,29383|0,29697|2) - Same comment as above.
Toaph's HD (Done)
00:08:807 (8807|2,8807|3) - You use a double note here, but later use a triple on 00:10:063 (10063|0,10063|2,10063|3) - I think they sound similar, could be a consistency issue but I am indecisive.
00:25:927 (25927|2) - I'd add a NM note to go with this LN, there is a drum hit with the vocal.
00:28:283 (28283|3) - Should be another NM note here, to be consistent with the part right after 00:28:440 (28440|2,28440|1)
00:29:540 (29540|1) - Double NM here to be consistent (all these hands could be problems for an HD difficulty though, I recognize that).
00:35:980 (35980|1) - Could be double NM, more emphasis on drum sound here.
00:36:451 (36451|3,36451|0) - You use a single NM here, but later a double NM at 00:38:964 (38964|3,38964|0,38964|2) - I'd review this section for consistency.
00:40:221 (40221|2,40221|3) - Don't think this needs to be a double NM, its not really different from the rest of the drum roll.
Shima Rin
Hi, NM Request from PM.

4K:1|2|3|4


[General]
  1. Make sure you turn off Widescreen Support in all diffs.
  2. The hitsound volume is too high for me. I would suggest some value like 50%.
[EX]
  1. 00:10:063 - Here you can perceive a much stronger drum sound than before, so I would like to make a triple note here. If you want to avoid mini-jack just delete 00:09:985 (9985|0) - , but it depends on you.
  2. 00:21:058 - to 00:22:315 - You can try this way to rearrange your pattern to at least give some more difference with HD: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385522
  3. 00:22:472 - And for here I would rather think double notes fit with the volume of these strong drums. Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385527
  4. 00:32:367 (32367|2,32367|1,32524|2,32524|0,32524|3,32681|3,32681|1,32760|2,32838|0,32838|1,32838|3) - It is better to rearrange this pattern so it will not repeat with the patterns before.
  5. 00:34:566 (34566|0,34566|3,34645|2,34723|1,34723|3,34723|0) - You may want to ctrl+h this pattern to mirror 00:33:938 (33938|3,33938|0,34016|2,34095|0,34095|1,34095|3) -
  6. 00:42:105 (42105|0,42105|3,42184|1,42262|2,42262|3,42262|0) - Ctrl+h this pattern to mirror 00:41:477 (41477|0,41477|3,41556|1,41634|2,41634|3,41634|0) -
  7. 01:07:236 (67236|1,67236|2) - Just like HD, it is a nice idea to make them into double 1/2 LNs as they reflect the song better.

Sorry for short mods. Good luck!
Toaph Daddy

Captain Falcon wrote:

Mod requested.
(0/1/2/3)
Toaph's HD (Done)
00:08:807 (8807|2,8807|3) - You use a double note here, but later use a triple on 00:10:063 (10063|0,10063|2,10063|3) - I think they sound similar, could be a consistency issue but I am indecisive. mmmmk
00:25:927 (25927|2) - I'd add a NM note to go with this LN, there is a drum hit with the vocal. fair
00:28:283 (28283|3) - Should be another NM note here, to be consistent with the part right after 00:28:440 (28440|2,28440|1) 28.440 has a cymbal crash on top of the other sounds so 28:253 shouldn't have the same representation
00:29:540 (29540|1) - Double NM here to be consistent (all these hands could be problems for an HD difficulty though, I recognize that). will accept for now
00:35:980 (35980|1) - Could be double NM, more emphasis on drum sound here. fair
00:36:451 (36451|3,36451|0) - You use a single NM here, but later a double NM at 00:38:964 (38964|3,38964|0,38964|2) - I'd review this section for consistency. don't remember why i did that...fixed
00:40:221 (40221|2,40221|3) - Don't think this needs to be a double NM, its not really different from the rest of the drum roll. there's an inflection in the drum sound that defends the placement of this jump
thanks for the mod my guy! Will send the new result to Hanss through discord for him to update soon
Topic Starter
Hanss

Tofu1222 wrote:

Hi, NM Request from PM.

4K:1|2|3|4


[General]
  1. Make sure you turn off Widescreen Support in all diffs.
  2. The hitsound volume is too high for me. I would suggest some value like 50%.
[EX]
  1. 00:10:063 - Here you can perceive a much stronger drum sound than before, so I would like to make a triple note here. If you want to avoid mini-jack just delete 00:09:985 (9985|0) - , but it depends on you.
  2. 00:21:058 - to 00:22:315 - You can try this way to rearrange your pattern to at least give some more difference with HD: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385522
  3. 00:22:472 - And for here I would rather think double notes fit with the volume of these strong drums. Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9385527
  4. 00:32:367 (32367|2,32367|1,32524|2,32524|0,32524|3,32681|3,32681|1,32760|2,32838|0,32838|1,32838|3) - It is better to rearrange this pattern so it will not repeat with the patterns before.
  5. 00:34:566 (34566|0,34566|3,34645|2,34723|1,34723|3,34723|0) - You may want to ctrl+h this pattern to mirror 00:33:938 (33938|3,33938|0,34016|2,34095|0,34095|1,34095|3) -
  6. 00:42:105 (42105|0,42105|3,42184|1,42262|2,42262|3,42262|0) - Ctrl+h this pattern to mirror 00:41:477 (41477|0,41477|3,41556|1,41634|2,41634|3,41634|0) -
  7. 01:07:236 (67236|1,67236|2) - Just like HD, it is a nice idea to make them into double 1/2 LNs as they reflect the song better.

Sorry for short mods. Good luck!
Applied everything, thank you <3
Asherz007
Totally not a late response or anything
(tofu's nudging me)

Falcon wrote:

Mod requested.
(0/1/2/3)
Ash's NM (Done)
00:07:079 (7079|0) - I don't know what the LN follows here. I think it flows better as a NM. This covers the 1/4 piano,
which is what I focus on for the next measure. I think it's ok tbh

00:09:592 - The tone of the drum rolls changes here slightly, but you could still continue the LN pattern by putting one on 3 (screencapped for reference).

Fair point, but since the drums moved to the more towards the background, I chose not to map these.
00:26:241 (26241|1,28755|1) - Could be changed to LNs to follow the drum rolls. I think it was more of a personal preference to not have LNs in this small section more than anything else.
00:29:226 (29226|2,29383|0,29697|2) - Same comment as above. I guess I have the same response here then lol
tofu irc
2017-12-17 05:26 Tofu1222: well are you still online
2017-12-17 05:26 Tofu1222: ;w;
2017-12-17 05:26 Asherz007: ya
2017-12-17 05:26 Asherz007: uwu
2017-12-17 05:27 Tofu1222: the thing is noxus wanna me to bub his just awake today
2017-12-17 05:27 Tofu1222: and if you dont care we may fast settle down your diff uwu
2017-12-17 05:27 Asherz007: lol sure
2017-12-17 05:27 Asherz007: I actually need to redownload it xd
2017-12-17 05:28 Asherz007: Oh crap I didn't even respond to that last mod lol
2017-12-17 05:30 Asherz007: and hitsounds have magically appeared lmao
2017-12-17 05:30 Tofu1222: xd
2017-12-17 05:31 Tofu1222: may i post my mod here first when you are replying the other one?
2017-12-17 05:32 Asherz007: yeah it's only like 4 points so go ahead
2017-12-17 05:32 Tofu1222: ok
2017-12-17 05:32 Tofu1222: 00:17:289 (17289|3) - move to col3 for balance
2017-12-17 05:34 Tofu1222: 00:42:891 (42891|3) - better move to col3 imo
2017-12-17 05:36 Asherz007: What kinda balance we looking at
2017-12-17 05:37 Tofu1222: 00:16:974 (16974|3,17289|3,17603|3) - avoid such stuff
2017-12-17 05:37 Asherz007: I wouldn't have thought a 3-note stack was much of a big deal
2017-12-17 05:38 Asherz007: trying not to make everything so rolly n that
2017-12-17 05:39 Tofu1222: just my personal opinion tho
2017-12-17 05:39 Asherz007: that's fair enough
2017-12-17 05:39 Tofu1222: xd it's not that big deal to urge you change that
2017-12-17 05:39 Asherz007: I'll move the second one for a mirror pattern I guess
2017-12-17 05:39 Tofu1222: yeah
2017-12-17 05:39 Asherz007: Probs a slight rearrange for the first one
2017-12-17 05:40 Asherz007: also get them to sort out this doubled hitsound thing cus it's annoying me lol
2017-12-17 05:41 Asherz007: I'll sort it for my diff I guess
2017-12-17 05:41 Tofu1222: yea
2017-12-17 05:41 Tofu1222: Noxus should have known sth bout hitsound?
2017-12-17 05:42 Asherz007: dunno who hitsounded
2017-12-17 05:42 Tofu1222: your patterns i think are well to go xd
2017-12-17 05:42 Asherz007: alrighty then
2017-12-17 05:42 Asherz007: I'll just sort the hitsounds out a little bit for my diff then
2017-12-17 05:43 Tofu1222: Ok
2017-12-17 05:52 Asherz007: yeah it's kinda not that well hitsounded imo
2017-12-17 05:52 Tofu1222: i will address this to him ofc

diff with hitsounds reapplied cus they sucked
osu file format v14

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320,192,12577,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,12734,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,13205,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,13676,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,13833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,17603,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,17917,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,18231,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,18388,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,19645,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,19959,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,22315,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,22943,128,2,23100:0:0:0:0:
320,192,23100,128,2,23257:0:0:0:0:
448,192,23257,128,10,23414:0:0:0:0:
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192,192,23571,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,24200,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,24278,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,25613,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,26241,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,27027,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,27027,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,27498,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,27655,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,27969,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,28283,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,28440,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,28755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,29226,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,29540,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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320,192,29697,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,29854,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,31896,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,32681,128,2,32838:0:0:0:0:
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192,192,33467,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,192,34880,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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448,192,66294,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,66451,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,66608,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,66765,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,66765,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,67079,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,67236,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,67236,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,68807,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,68807,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,69121,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,69121,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,69435,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,69749,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,69749,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,70063,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,70378,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,70378,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,70692,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,71006,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,71006,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,71320,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,71477,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,71477,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,71791,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,71791,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,72105,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,72105,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,72262,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,72262,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,72577,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,72891,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,72891,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,73126,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,73205,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,73362,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,73519,128,2,73833:0:0:0:0:
64,192,73833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,73833,1,4,0:0:0:0:
192,192,74147,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,74147,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,74461,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,74775,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,74775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,75090,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,75404,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,75404,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,75718,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,76032,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,76032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,76346,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,76503,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,76503,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,76817,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,76817,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,77132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,77132,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,77289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,77289,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,77603,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,77917,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,77917,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,78152,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,78231,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,78388,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,192,78545,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,192,78702,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,78859,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,78859,1,4,0:0:0:0:
Shima Rin
4K:1|2|3|4


[Toaph's Hard]
  1. 00:09:435 - to 00:09:749 - How about rearranging in this way to make things easier since 1/4 patterns are still a bit challenging for this diff? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9784209.
  2. 00:24:357 - Same as above. Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9784216.
  3. 00:28:126 (28126|0) - You may rearrange the patterns around to make this LN the same length as the highest diff. It looks a bit inconsistent.
  4. 00:42:419 (42419|0) - There is a stop in this sound, so better split the LN into two, with the 2nd from 00:42:577 - .
  5. 00:45:796 (45796|0) - Why not putting on col4 to finish this stair and help with balance?
  6. 00:46:032 - to 00:51:215 - I don't mean that your patterns are bad, but compared to Normal, it is a huge gap due to the focus on LNs. A solution for you to resolve this gap issue is to abandon either the vocal or guitar sounds you are using LNs to represent for. And it will be reasonable going with no LNs in normal, LNs for one instrument in Hard and for two in Expert.
  7. 00:54:985 (54985|1) - Move to col1 for balance.
  8. 00:56:084 - to 00:54:985 (54985|1) - The same gap issue pointed out earlier. Apply your solution here too.
  9. To avoid 01:02:838 (62838|0,62995|0) - this, you may move 01:02:995 (62995|0) - to col2, and then 01:03:310 (63310|1,63467|0) - flip these two objects.
  10. 01:03:467 (63467|2) - The guitars here seem a bit unclear. Actually following the Expert LN placement here will be nice.
  11. 01:06:608 (66608|0) - If you are following the melody, it should start at 01:06:765 - .
  12. 01:08:179 (68179|2) - Suggest shorten the length of this LN and follow the Expert.
  13. 01:08:807 (68807|0) - 01:13:048 (73048|1) - You may take a look at Expert and adjust your LNs here.
  14. 01:18:231 - Single note here is quite enough compared to the volume of 01:18:388 - such sound.
[Expert]
Chat Log
14:29 Noxus: okie :3
14:29 Noxus: am ready ;3
14:29 Tofu1222: nice
14:29 Tofu1222: I have already talked with asherz and his diff is ok now
14:29 *Noxus is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1433598 Fear, and Loathing in Las Vegas - Just Awake (TV Size)]
14:30 Noxus: okie
14:30 Tofu1222: and now my first concern will be on your hitsound
14:30 Tofu1222: there are really too many double/triple hitsounds, but they are truly not needed
14:31 Noxus: i just had murumoo do my hitsounds
14:31 Tofu1222: oh
14:31 Tofu1222: they placements are right tho, but there should be multiple same hitsounds on the same line
14:32 Tofu1222: should not be
14:32 Tofu1222: you may talk to him later about this
14:32 Tofu1222: let's look at patterns first
14:34 Tofu1222: 00:12:184 - I guess you can add a note here since there is one melody sound on this line
14:35 Tofu1222: 00:17:210 - ^
14:35 Tofu1222: 00:18:231 (18231|3) - This LN should be on 00:18:074 - for the melody
14:35 Noxus: okie done
14:36 Noxus: alrighty
14:37 Tofu1222: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9784156 you may do some rearrangements like this to avoid 4-note stack
14:38 Noxus: can you give me the time stamp
14:39 Tofu1222: 00:31:425 - to 00:32:524 -
14:40 Noxus: okay
14:40 Noxus: changed
14:41 Tofu1222: 00:34:016 (34016|1,34095|2,34645|1,34723|2) - how about ctrl+h them to mirro the patterns from 00:32:681 - to 00:33:467 -
14:41 Noxus: sounds good
14:41 Tofu1222: 00:36:922 (36922|3) - move to col2 to avoid the 5-note stack on col4
14:42 Noxus: okie
14:44 Tofu1222: 01:09:592 (69592|1) - If you are following the melody not the vocal I think you need to delete this
14:45 Noxus: \okie
14:45 Tofu1222: then this diff is good now
14:46 Noxus: owob
14:46 Tofu1222: you may upload it and I will do a testplay. Then the two things you need to do are to find murumoo for hitsound and toaphster for modding HD
14:46 Tofu1222: and when all done -> bubbled
14:46 Tofu1222: xd
14:46 Noxus: owob
14:47 Tofu1222: (and dont forget to update ash's diff too
14:48 Noxus: okie i did
14:48 Noxus: go ahead and testplay
14:49 Tofu1222: rip SS
14:50 Noxus: ;p

Good Luck! ;)
Toaph Daddy
[quote="Tofu1222"][notice]
4K:1|2|3|4


[Toaph's Hard]
  1. 00:09:435 - to 00:09:749 - How about rearranging in this way to make things easier since 1/4 patterns are still a bit challenging for this diff? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9784209. sure why not
  2. 00:24:357 - Same as above. Try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9784216. i see what you want, but I'm gonna make a small change to that pattern to avoid the anchor right at the end
  3. 00:28:126 (28126|0) - You may rearrange the patterns around to make this LN the same length as the highest diff. It looks a bit inconsistent. this is specifically done for PR so I'd rather not change it
  4. 00:42:419 (42419|0) - There is a stop in this sound, so better split the LN into two, with the 2nd from 00:42:577 - . sure? this one is pretty hard for me to hear but sure
  5. 00:45:796 (45796|0) - Why not putting on col4 to finish this stair and help with balance? Don't necessarily see the point but w/e
  6. 00:46:032 - to 00:51:215 - I don't mean that your patterns are bad, but compared to Normal, it is a huge gap due to the focus on LNs. A solution for you to resolve this gap issue is to abandon either the vocal or guitar sounds you are using LNs to represent for. And it will be reasonable going with no LNs in normal, LNs for one instrument in Hard and for two in Expert. yeah that's fair
  7. 00:54:985 (54985|1) - Move to col1 for balance. i suppose, but didn't change it for "balance", which isn't my main concern. Did it to avoid a small "minijack" type thing, and tried to avoid it anywhere else.
  8. 00:56:084 - to 00:54:985 (54985|1) - The same gap issue pointed out earlier. Apply your solution here too. Thought you were talking about like gaps between notes at first lol. Figured it out tho. Fixed owob
  9. To avoid 01:02:838 (62838|0,62995|0) - this, you may move 01:02:995 (62995|0) - to col2, and then 01:03:310 (63310|1,63467|0) - flip these two objects. good catch, talked about earlier
  10. 01:03:467 (63467|2) - The guitars here seem a bit unclear. Actually following the Expert LN placement here will be nice. tfw expert placement is wrong but i have to follow it smh. Fixed tho. 01:12:577 (72577|3,73048|1) - these two are staying as is to follow the length of the sound though
  11. 01:06:608 (66608|0) - If you are following the melody, it should start at 01:06:765 - . how about i start it at 01:06:294 - instead
  12. 01:08:179 (68179|2) - Suggest shorten the length of this LN and follow the Expert. no. That one is following the length of the voice,
    and shortening it sacrifices quality imo. Plus this is really minor so
  13. 01:08:807 (68807|0) - 01:13:048 (73048|1) - You may take a look at Expert and adjust your LNs here. somewhat fixed, not following the EX for the lengths of some of the notes
  14. 01:18:231 - Single note here is quite enough compared to the volume of 01:18:388 - such sound. sure
Thanks for the mod! Hope everything is good to go now, will send it to Hanss and he'll probably get the hitsounds fixed or w/e and it'll hopefully be good enough quality to go!
Asherz007
Hitsounds redone by yours truly. Hopefully not a problem now :P

BNs please check that "hithat.wav" is no longer present in the mapset as it is no longer used.
Shima Rin
[Hitsound]
  • Chat Log
    00:37 Tofu1222: Well, I was suggesting noxus to find a hitnormal sample for just awake since the default one is really not good to hear (quite loud too)
    00:37 Tofu1222: and he said you are in charge of hitsound
    00:37 Asherz007: I am indeed
    00:37 Tofu1222: are you able to find any sample and message to noxus?
    00:38 Asherz007: wdym by it's not good to hear
    00:39 Tofu1222: cuz it is too loud, and when adding with other hitsounds you added, they sound somtimes even louder, which I don't think you are going to let hitnormal be the most representative one i guess
    00:40 Asherz007: where exactly might I ask
    00:41 Tofu1222: 00:11:006 - to 00:20:744 - they are a bit misleading(?) when they are with other hitsounds
    00:41 Tofu1222: in normal for example
    00:43 Asherz007: I mean I can nerf the hitnormal volume
    00:43 Tofu1222: yeah you also can definitely
    00:43 Asherz007: Since there's a point in Expert where I make it louder deliberately
    00:44 Tofu1222: was thinking that finding a new sample would be easy for all hmm but yeah that's a way too
    00:44 Asherz007: tbh I'm not really seeing it as too much of a problem
    00:45 Tofu1222: it may be my own dislike of default ones but well if you can nerf some volume that would be nice tho
    00:49 Asherz007: was that just to my diff
    00:51 Tofu1222: maybe yes cuz becuase there are much more hitsounds placed on higher diffs they look more compact and stronger than hitnormal
    00:51 Asherz007: you can nerf the hitnormal hs volume through the timing points
    00:51 Asherz007: since everything else has volume overrides
    00:51 Tofu1222: yeah
    00:52 Tofu1222: (it
    00:52 Tofu1222: it's just my preference to have new samples xd but anyway both way can solve this
    00:52 Asherz007: lol
    00:53 Asherz007: I was just working with what was there already
    00:56 Tofu1222: and hitsounds would be fine for all diffs
    00:56 Asherz007: I changed the hitnormals on mine to 33%
    00:57 Asherz007: except a couple intentionally left high
    00:57 Tofu1222: nice
    00:57 Tofu1222: 'w'
    00:57 Asherz007: 'w'
  1. Besides, hitsounds in all diffs are checked. They are fine now.
[Toaph's Hard]

  • Chat Log
    00:55 Tofu1222: Hey toaph, still got a few issues with your diffs. Mostly about spreads. solve -> bubble
    00:55 Tofu1222: xd
    00:56 TheToaphster: mmk whats the issues my man
    00:57 Tofu1222: 00:06:294 - to 00:08:493 - your layering ( i mean note amount) is just the same with expert, but actually this causes a huge gap with normal
    00:57 Tofu1222: a solution is to nerf those double notes in between
    00:57 TheToaphster: ye i figured this part would come up
    00:57 TheToaphster: would doing a jump for every 2 that are there now work?
    00:57 TheToaphster: like 1 every other white line?
    00:58 Tofu1222: hmm, may you screenshot your idea?
    00:58 TheToaphster: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/FOiXZlI.png
    00:58 TheToaphster: something like this?
    00:58 TheToaphster: actually looking at that its missing jumps from my initial plan but ya know
    00:58 Tofu1222: yeah its nice way
    01:02 Tofu1222: 00:11:006 - from here, the layering somtimes are even denser than expert. A solution is to nerf triples to doubles, so the logic will be "LNs keeps, but whenever you hear a drum you only place a single note but not discerning snare and kick with 1 or 2 notes"
    01:02 Tofu1222: is it clear?
    01:03 TheToaphster: ye i getcha
    01:04 TheToaphster: ok fixed
    01:05 Tofu1222: and some more about this thing like 00:27:027 - 00:28:912 -
    01:05 TheToaphster: would you want me to do some toning down of the little transition 00:20:587 (20587|3) - here?
    01:05 TheToaphster: 00:22:315 -
    01:05 TheToaphster: sorry
    01:05 TheToaphster: here
    01:06 Tofu1222: toning down? what kind of transition do you mean?
    01:06 TheToaphster: ok the part you mentioned i took out the doubles and made em singles
    01:06 Tofu1222: nice
    01:09 Tofu1222: 00:36:451 - 00:36:765 - 00:37:079 - 00:37:393 - and so on, such doubles are suggested to nerf to single cuz the 1/4 notes make a gap already with normal, and it will be reasonable to just use single for better spread
    01:09 Tofu1222: 00:39:592 - till this one i guess
    01:09 TheToaphster: yeah, fair
    01:10 TheToaphster: alright fixed
    01:10 Tofu1222: 01:05:980 - double here is enough? its a W not a C here
    01:11 TheToaphster: u right
    01:11 TheToaphster: fixed
    01:11 Tofu1222: 01:08:807 - from here maybe doing the same nerf thing as 00:11:006 - ?
    01:14 Tofu1222: and others that I haven't pointed out are parts only C sounds present, and because they are quite noticeable, I believe you double them in those parts are logical. The parts I point out have snares and kicks both in
    01:14 TheToaphster: ok hold up i did something wrong and now a bunch of the changes got reverted
    01:14 Tofu1222: oh rip
    01:14 TheToaphster: so i need to go back through the map and fix it again
    01:14 Tofu1222: ;w; i will wait for you
    01:14 Tofu1222: 00:34:095 (34095|1) - maybe wanna move to col1 to avoid stack?
    01:15 Tofu1222: call me when you are done with changes xd
    01:15 TheToaphster: will do
    01:17 TheToaphster: alright everything is fixed plus stack avoided owob
    01:17 Tofu1222: nice
    01:18 Tofu1222: now maybe let noxus update and i will go thru this real quick
    01:18 Tofu1222: xd
    01:18 TheToaphster: update sent
    01:27 Tofu1222: why no hitsound on ur diff qwq
    01:27 TheToaphster: I dont know
    01:27 TheToaphster: ill figure it out
    01:29 Tofu1222: hmm i still have a few concerns on your patterns tho. Might we fix em first?
    01:30 Tofu1222: 00:22:315 - to 00:23:571 - Actually you don't need to double all cuz this will create many stacks, which increases the difficulty tbh. How about only double 00:22:315 - 00:22:786 - 00:23:257 - where you can hear C sounds on them?
    01:31 TheToaphster: sure
    01:31 Tofu1222: 00:24:828 - to 00:25:770 - following my previous idea, might wanna double 00:24:828 - 00:24:985 - 00:25:456 - 00:25:927 - ?
    01:32 TheToaphster: done
    01:33 Tofu1222: 00:34:880 - to 00:35:980 - , might wanna double 00:34:880 - 00:35:666 - 00:35:823 - 00:35:980 - these only?
    01:34 Tofu1222: and for above did you rearrange to avoid stacks as possible?
    01:34 TheToaphster: hold up a sec dad is calling
    01:35 Tofu1222: yeah
    01:35 TheToaphster: alright back
    01:36 Tofu1222: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9795419 how about rearranging in this way at last to avoid all the stacks lol?
    01:36 TheToaphster: alright i will look at the mod in a sec, i figured out the problems with hitsounds
    01:36 TheToaphster: will have it fixed in like 4 minutes
    01:36 Tofu1222: (noxus said he will fix for you
    01:37 TheToaphster: nah this is ez pz
    01:37 Tofu1222: oh ok owo
    01:37 TheToaphster: it was because i accidentally editted a version without hitsounds
    01:37 Tofu1222: oh gosh lol
    01:37 TheToaphster: got one with it and am just fixing it up to be like the new one
    01:37 TheToaphster: which wasnt too many changes
    01:38 Tofu1222: so you may just making the hitsounded one by looking at unhitsounded one?
    01:38 TheToaphster: yeah
    01:38 Tofu1222: owob
    01:38 TheToaphster: i have it in the reference thing and am just copying it
    01:46 TheToaphster: done
    01:46 Tofu1222: fixed all i said?
    01:46 TheToaphster: it is now fully hitsounded and updated to the mod that isnt the link you sent
    01:46 TheToaphster: will look at the screenshot right quick
    01:48 TheToaphster: ok looked at it
    01:48 TheToaphster: and id prefer not to change it to be only regular notes
    01:49 TheToaphster: kinda takes away from the point of the map
    01:49 TheToaphster: and the conventions i applied seconds earlier
    01:49 Tofu1222: so you think the stacks can express the music at the end better?
    01:49 Tofu1222: well that's a way to think too
    01:49 TheToaphster: plus i avoided a majority of the stacks by moving stuff around a bit
    01:50 TheToaphster: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/ZwxJ0xF.png
    01:50 Tofu1222: well yeah this looks better too xd
    01:50 TheToaphster: by doing this theres only one stack (assuming im interpreting what you mean by stack correctly) and its basically unavoidable with the mapping choices here
    01:50 Tofu1222: if it fits your idea, then I am totally fine with this
    01:51 Tofu1222: you may send to noxus
    01:51 Tofu1222: if you feel things are good
    01:51 Tofu1222: (or maybe you wanna go over your diff again idk xd
    01:53 TheToaphster: im aight with the diff now
    01:53 TheToaphster: thank you for the help!
    01:53 TheToaphster: also sent to noxus
    01:53 Tofu1222: no prob 'w'
  1. We nerfed his diff, and the spread now is quite reasonable.
Normal and Expert are good to go a few days ago.

Everything should be fine now. Bubbled!
Umo-
expert

00:10:535 (10535|1) - shouldn't this end at 00:10:613 - ?
error_exe777
well this is not how i would go about this map honestly.

open
okay its hard to make objective points with this map since im basically contradicting your mapping style but i thought id say something after i heard concerns from a couple people.

m o s t of the map is charted with vocal or guitar over the drums. and quite frankly i feel that they have all blocked you from creating any sort of interesting patterns or concepts and instead its just a blur of LNs which seriously aren't nice to play. there is tons of strain and pressure behind them and it really ruins the experience from a playing point of view. from a mappers view, it doesnt give any emphasis towards the drums, which in this song are prominent throughout the song and since you prioritised (by the looks of it) the guitar, vocals etc it takes away that kind of emphasis or feeling that the drums give off during the song.

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

the whole kiai is also very sudden and in a way shocking after the whole note spams at 00:36:294 - to 00:46:032 - . you would kind of expect more notes but i guess this is fine.

take a look at ash's diff, specifically kiai. its pretty much exactly how i would map this, and if these concepts were applied to higher diffs, it would work perfectly.

now this was a pretty subjective argument, since i disagree with how you've mapped the song as a whole, rather than sections within the map. im not asking you to change anything since its your mapping style and you're allowed to have that, i just feel in this instance it gets in the way of what the song is trying to portray/convey. if you were open to changes (which i doubt since its bubbled and blocko is on the way) i recommend you chart the drums over all else within the map. it would show the song (imo) alot better than it is now, since there will be more emphasis on the more prominent sounds which is essentially a basic osu mania principle.

here's a mod bc i found some stuff

[top diff]

i have to say it is pretty well polished.

00:06:294 (6294|1,6372|2,6451|1,6608|2,6686|1,6765|2,7079|3,7158|1,7236|3,7707|0,7786|3,7864|0,8100|3,8179|1,8257|3) - this whole section is infested with some weird trills which kinda make it awkward to play and hinders flow slightly. if its intended then go ahead but i personally would prefer rolls or bursts rather than trills because they are more comfortable to play

00:10:535 (10535|1) - like umo said, this should end 1/4 earlier but its up to you really, since it would flow better as 1/2

00:11:948 (11948|0,12184|0) - this LN shield here makes no sense to me since it only makes it cancer to play and doesnt give any chart benefits or whatever. a simple solution is to CTRL+H these 00:12:184 (12184|0,12262|3) -

00:33:624 - triple for cymbal, right? or a quad like at 00:38:493 -

01:00:011 (60011|3,60090|2,60168|0,60247|3,60325|0) - these need to trill like at 00:49:959 (49959|3,50037|0,50116|3,50194|0,50273|3) -

nothing here was meant to be rude. if i came across as rude then i apologise.

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx
Litharrale

error_exe777 wrote:

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx



I concur!
Topic Starter
Hanss

error_exe777 wrote:

well this is not how i would go about this map honestly.

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okay its hard to make objective points with this map since im basically contradicting your mapping style but i thought id say something after i heard concerns from a couple people.

m o s t of the map is charted with vocal or guitar over the drums. and quite frankly i feel that they have all blocked you from creating any sort of interesting patterns or concepts and instead its just a blur of LNs which seriously aren't nice to play. there is tons of strain and pressure behind them and it really ruins the experience from a playing point of view. from a mappers view, it doesnt give any emphasis towards the drums, which in this song are prominent throughout the song and since you prioritised (by the looks of it) the guitar, vocals etc it takes away that kind of emphasis or feeling that the drums give off during the song.

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

the whole kiai is also very sudden and in a way shocking after the whole note spams at 00:36:294 - to 00:46:032 - . you would kind of expect more notes but i guess this is fine. Charting Keys, Vocals and Drums in the same part to make a dense, challenging and rewarding section to hit. It's the hardest difficulty after all. Not going to make this another bland TV Size, sorry. The whole twist of the chart people won't see coming is a nice barrage of LN which are reasonable.

take a look at ash's diff, specifically kiai. its pretty much exactly how i would map this, and if these concepts were applied to higher diffs, it would work perfectly. I'd prefer the current style I have in the kiai section. Thanks for your opinion though.

now this was a pretty subjective argument, since i disagree with how you've mapped the song as a whole, rather than sections within the map. im not asking you to change anything since its your mapping style and you're allowed to have that, i just feel in this instance it gets in the way of what the song is trying to portray/convey. if you were open to changes (which i doubt since its bubbled and blocko is on the way) i recommend you chart the drums over all else within the map. it would show the song (imo) alot better than it is now, since there will be more emphasis on the more prominent sounds which is essentially a basic osu mania principle. - "I'm not asking you to change anything".... well I did with a self mod to help flow and decrease density in certain parts of the kiai and with Tofu, I created a smoother transition for some of the Vocal + Synth melody change sections.

here's a mod bc i found some stuff - Thanks

[top diff]

i have to say it is pretty well polished. - Thanks

00:06:294 (6294|1,6372|2,6451|1,6608|2,6686|1,6765|2,7079|3,7158|1,7236|3,7707|0,7786|3,7864|0,8100|3,8179|1,8257|3) - this whole section is infested with some weird trills which kinda make it awkward to play and hinders flow slightly. if its intended then go ahead but i personally would prefer rolls or bursts rather than trills because they are more comfortable to play - No change, I think it plays out well enough and would use the term "awkward" a bit less loosely..it's not really that awkward at all.

00:10:535 (10535|1) - like umo said, this should end 1/4 earlier but its up to you really, since it would flow better as 1/2 - No change, I prefer the flow.

00:11:948 (11948|0,12184|0) - this LN shield here makes no sense to me since it only makes it cancer to play and doesnt give any chart benefits or whatever. a simple solution is to CTRL+H these 00:12:184 (12184|0,12262|3) - Changed, applied the CTRL+H.

00:33:624 - triple for cymbal, right? or a quad like at 00:38:493 -Fixed, changed it to a triple chord. Avoided the quad chord at 33 seconds in to avoid an insane stack on the 1st and 4th column.

01:00:011 (60011|3,60090|2,60168|0,60247|3,60325|0) - these need to trill like at 00:49:959 (49959|3,50037|0,50116|3,50194|0,50273|3) -Fixed.

nothing here was meant to be rude. if i came across as rude then i apologise. - I'm not a child, you're fine lol.

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx - Nope c:
Topic Starter
Hanss

Litharrale wrote:

error_exe777 wrote:

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx



I concur!
shhhhhhh (;
Shima Rin
Recheck.

[Achromatic]
  1. 00:44:147 (44147|0,44304|0,44461|0,44618|0,44775|0) - Maybe you can rearrange this part to avoid this stack?
  2. 00:49:645 (49645|2) - I think this LN should be splited into two cuz they represent different melody sounds.
  3. 00:59:697 (59697|0) - Same as above.

Not really spot any other problems. Check these first and I guess this diff should be good to go. ;)
Topic Starter
Hanss

Tofu1222 wrote:

Recheck.

[Achromatic]
  1. 00:44:147 (44147|0,44304|0,44461|0,44618|0,44775|0) - Maybe you can rearrange this part to avoid this stack? - Fixed
  2. 00:49:645 (49645|2) - I think this LN should be splited into two cuz they represent different melody sounds. - Fixed
  3. 00:59:697 (59697|0) - Same as above. - Fixed

Not really spot any other problems. Check these first and I guess this diff should be good to go. ;)
Shima Rin
Rechecked and top diff is quite well polished. Rebubbled!
Topic Starter
Hanss

Tofu1222 wrote:

Rechecked and top diff is quite well polished. Rebubbled!


(´・ω・`)
Crumpey

Tofu1222 wrote:

Rechecked and top diff is quite well polished. Rebubbled!
i think this rebubble is incredibly hasty, expecially because of how... questionable the top difficulty is.

Some of the mods that have been posted have either been shoved to the side or straight out ignored and i really thing as a mapper you really should go back and read the mods and think about what people are asking you to do before you respond.

From what ive seen in discord talking to you and others who have also spoken to you, you seem incredibly reluctant to change even when its clearly beneficial.


Error's mod

error_exe777 wrote:

well this is not how i would go about this map honestly.

okay its hard to make objective points with this map since im basically contradicting your mapping style but i thought id say something after i heard concerns from a couple people.

m o s t of the map is charted with vocal or guitar over the drums. and quite frankly i feel that they have all blocked you from creating any sort of interesting patterns or concepts and instead its just a blur of LNs which seriously aren't nice to play. there is tons of strain and pressure behind them and it really ruins the experience from a playing point of view. from a mappers view, it doesnt give any emphasis towards the drums, which in this song are prominent throughout the song and since you prioritised (by the looks of it) the guitar, vocals etc it takes away that kind of emphasis or feeling that the drums give off during the song.

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

the whole kiai is also very sudden and in a way shocking after the whole note spams at 00:36:294 - to 00:46:032 - . you would kind of expect more notes but i guess this is fine.

take a look at ash's diff, specifically kiai. its pretty much exactly how i would map this, and if these concepts were applied to higher diffs, it would work perfectly.

now this was a pretty subjective argument, since i disagree with how you've mapped the song as a whole, rather than sections within the map. im not asking you to change anything since its your mapping style and you're allowed to have that, i just feel in this instance it gets in the way of what the song is trying to portray/convey. if you were open to changes (which i doubt since its bubbled and blocko is on the way) i recommend you chart the drums over all else within the map. it would show the song (imo) alot better than it is now, since there will be more emphasis on the more prominent sounds which is essentially a basic osu mania principle.

here's a mod bc i found some stuff

[top diff]

i have to say it is pretty well polished.

00:06:294 (6294|1,6372|2,6451|1,6608|2,6686|1,6765|2,7079|3,7158|1,7236|3,7707|0,7786|3,7864|0,8100|3,8179|1,8257|3) - this whole section is infested with some weird trills which kinda make it awkward to play and hinders flow slightly. if its intended then go ahead but i personally would prefer rolls or bursts rather than trills because they are more comfortable to play

00:10:535 (10535|1) - like umo said, this should end 1/4 earlier but its up to you really, since it would flow better as 1/2

00:11:948 (11948|0,12184|0) - this LN shield here makes no sense to me since it only makes it cancer to play and doesnt give any chart benefits or whatever. a simple solution is to CTRL+H these 00:12:184 (12184|0,12262|3) -

00:33:624 - triple for cymbal, right? or a quad like at 00:38:493 -

01:00:011 (60011|3,60090|2,60168|0,60247|3,60325|0) - these need to trill like at 00:49:959 (49959|3,50037|0,50116|3,50194|0,50273|3) -

nothing here was meant to be rude. if i came across as rude then i apologise.

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx

This mod inparticular expresses concerns with the map, most prominently the play-ability of the song during the kiai time which had some very valid points that absolutely could of been resolved or reasoned against.
Instead from all i can gather theres reluctance to change, or even consider change.


I feel this map still has a ton of room for discussion and think its way to early to result in a bubble, i feel more selfmodding / mods from other modders should be gathered to assist this map in becoming the best it can be.

TO CLARIFY ; Im not making this post to be an ass, im making this to help have this map be the best it can be, especially since its clear your going for ranked.
I'm looking forward to your response on errors mod as i think that was heavily overlooked.

I wish you luck on furthering this map, its got alot of potential, but i dont think its quite ready yet.

~Crumpey
Topic Starter
Hanss

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

Tofu1222 wrote:

Rechecked and top diff is quite well polished. Rebubbled!
i think this rebubble is incredibly hasty, expecially because of how... questionable the top difficulty is. - Yikes

Some of the mods that have been posted have either been shoved to the side or straight out ignored and i really thing as a mapper you really should go back and read the mods and think about what people are asking you to do before you respond. - Find one that has been completely shoved to the side and come back to me, thanks.

From what ive seen in discord talking to you and others who have also spoken to you, you seem incredibly reluctant to change even when its clearly beneficial.
"Reluctant" lol error is literally the only person you are referring to (which wasn't ignored). So stop with the baseless accusations lmfao


Pics 1
Useless pics


Error's mod

error_exe777 wrote:

well this is not how i would go about this map honestly.

okay its hard to make objective points with this map since im basically contradicting your mapping style but i thought id say something after i heard concerns from a couple people.

m o s t of the map is charted with vocal or guitar over the drums. and quite frankly i feel that they have all blocked you from creating any sort of interesting patterns or concepts and instead its just a blur of LNs which seriously aren't nice to play. there is tons of strain and pressure behind them and it really ruins the experience from a playing point of view. from a mappers view, it doesnt give any emphasis towards the drums, which in this song are prominent throughout the song and since you prioritised (by the looks of it) the guitar, vocals etc it takes away that kind of emphasis or feeling that the drums give off during the song.

oh god and kiai. ah kiai. if this didnt exist i wouldn't make this post but here i am. my god kiai is an absolute state. since you again charted vocals AND another synth sound thing it takes this feeling of lost emphasis to a whole new extent. it feels extremely overmapped to the point where it feels like an attempt at something cool but instead is a mess of LNs that contradicts the music. the song itself is very sharp and in a way sophisticated and by charting LNs it completely goes against what the song is trying to convey. if it was another keymode it would be less of a pain to play and chart but since its 4k you're stuck with the mess that is this section.

the whole kiai is also very sudden and in a way shocking after the whole note spams at 00:36:294 - to 00:46:032 - . you would kind of expect more notes but i guess this is fine.

take a look at ash's diff, specifically kiai. its pretty much exactly how i would map this, and if these concepts were applied to higher diffs, it would work perfectly.

now this was a pretty subjective argument, since i disagree with how you've mapped the song as a whole, rather than sections within the map. im not asking you to change anything since its your mapping style and you're allowed to have that, i just feel in this instance it gets in the way of what the song is trying to portray/convey. if you were open to changes (which i doubt since its bubbled and blocko is on the way) i recommend you chart the drums over all else within the map. it would show the song (imo) alot better than it is now, since there will be more emphasis on the more prominent sounds which is essentially a basic osu mania principle.

here's a mod bc i found some stuff

[top diff]

i have to say it is pretty well polished.

00:06:294 (6294|1,6372|2,6451|1,6608|2,6686|1,6765|2,7079|3,7158|1,7236|3,7707|0,7786|3,7864|0,8100|3,8179|1,8257|3) - this whole section is infested with some weird trills which kinda make it awkward to play and hinders flow slightly. if its intended then go ahead but i personally would prefer rolls or bursts rather than trills because they are more comfortable to play

00:10:535 (10535|1) - like umo said, this should end 1/4 earlier but its up to you really, since it would flow better as 1/2

00:11:948 (11948|0,12184|0) - this LN shield here makes no sense to me since it only makes it cancer to play and doesnt give any chart benefits or whatever. a simple solution is to CTRL+H these 00:12:184 (12184|0,12262|3) -

00:33:624 - triple for cymbal, right? or a quad like at 00:38:493 -

01:00:011 (60011|3,60090|2,60168|0,60247|3,60325|0) - these need to trill like at 00:49:959 (49959|3,50037|0,50116|3,50194|0,50273|3) -

nothing here was meant to be rude. if i came across as rude then i apologise.

btw alluka doesnt appear until one of the later arcs in hxh and the song is from the first arc so pls change bg kthx

This mod inparticular expresses concerns with the map, most prominently the play-ability of the song during the kiai time which had some very valid points that absolutely could of been resolved or reasoned against.
Instead from all i can gather theres reluctance to change, or even consider change.
You blind my dude?

Me memeing for the most part, oh my lord! Sorry! (referring to "Pics 2" box)

I feel this map still has a ton of room for discussion and think its way to early to result in a bubble, i feel more selfmodding / mods from other modders should be gathered to assist this map in becoming the best it can be. - Thanks for your opinion, how about you mod it then

TO CLARIFY ; Im not making this post to be an ass (I'll be nice and not resort to screenshots lmao), im making this to help have this map be the best it can be, especially since its clear your going for ranked.
I'm looking forward to your response on errors mod as i think that was heavily overlooked.
"Heavily overlooked", once again are you blind? lmfao


I wish you luck on furthering this map, its got alot of potential, but i dont think its quite ready yet. Thanks

~Crumpey

Said "scummy" then edited it lol, it's fine if you want to look at little more mature in the public eye though c:
The picture above is referring to me editing the post in error's mod. The self mod and rebubble modding was done after error's post was already out and the edit (which was me toning my response further after the recent mods done by myself and tofu) was done before CrumpetFiddlers post lol..
try being more perceptive before you bag on someone my dude :)
DDMythical
hanss stop being a fucking tool
DDMythical
no seriously why do i have to come in and settle this
DDMythical
Yes this chart is entirely fine -- anyone saying its unpolished is weird; I don't know whats wrong with this in the slightest
error_exe777
oh you know what you are being an absolute fucking asshole.

your replies to mine and crumpets concerns have been condescending and very passive aggressive. we have said our concerns about the map in a relatively civil way and you've just replied like you don't give a shit about your own map. seriously, stop acting like you are above us because that is seriously the vibe you're giving off.

i'm really not happy with any of your replies. they dont help with trying to improve your own map let alone help us try to help you, or even just understand the map some more. everything you have said it just treated like trash and thrown away before we can act. now i beg that you grow up and reply to the concerns placed in front of you properly instead of reply with something like "are you blind? lmfao". this shit is just rude and immature.

all i ask is that you reply properly, actually acknowledging what crumpet is trying to say.

edit: ok i was angry and i apoligised so nobody smite me for this smh
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