Riko (CV: Tomita Miyu), Reg (CV: Mariya Ise) - Deep in Abyss · forum

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-10-25T18:22:52+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
First layer
=== Note density does still seem pretty high for the lowest diff in the set. Stuff like 00:36:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:53:373 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - are pretty significant chains of 1/2 seperated objects, and there's quite a few of them in the diff. I do think an Easy is required since nerfing the diff into the ground isn't very nice. ok easy added
- 00:18:484 (1) - 00:26:040 (1) - I think it might be better to map more accurately to the music rather than cover these sections with spinners (specifically background sounds). The first one misses a vocal beat at 00:19:151 while the second one the held vocal stops at 00:27:151. If you want at least one spinner in this diff, then you could probably get away with keeping the first one, but start it at 00:19:151, or place it 01:20:484 like in Hard. both spinners are after the vocals: it's not meant to be a spinner over the held vocal, the parts without vocals have less emphasis in the song and to represent the lack of intensity/give the player a break without it literally being a break, i made them both spinners. they're consistent and the same length and both end on vital points with a finish with enough recovery time for the next object, i don't see why these are an issue.

Second layer
- 00:16:262 (5,6,1) - Minor thing, I would arrange the circles to follow the curve of the slider rather than make a straight line, just so it looks a bit neater. all the triples in the map are like this (asides from the ones that are stacked) and it looks/flows fine so i don't want to break consistency
- 00:17:151 - Any particular reason for missing this beat? I feel like you might as well map this if the vocals are being followed, and if you mapped 00:18:040. i wanted to emphasize the piano: i'm not really particularly trying to follow the vocal here, the reason i map 00:18:040 (3) - is because there has to be some sort of lead into the next rhythm at 00:18:262 - or it would be awkward. i could change this pattern if you really want me to, but it would make the map worse so i don't want to unless i have to
- 00:30:707 (3) - Is a loop necessary? In my opinion I don't like these kinds of sliders where the loop isn't clear (no visible hole) since players tend to play them in an unintended way (leaving their cursor still on the loop part) or maybe even get confused by them. There's not much room to make a proper loop with a visible hole, however. the two slider ticks make it very very clear where the loop is, and i really don't think it'll be confusing to any player, i can get some testplays on the hard if that helps? i just don't see this being an issue at all really and removing it just makes the map more boring
- 01:00:929 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Repeating the same sort of motion over these two combos seemed to stick out in a boring kind of way to me. I think this could work well if you reversed the direction of the second combo somehow. the purpose of this pattern is to explicitly outline the concept of the map: the first vocalist's sliders are lines 01:00:929 (1,2,3,4) - and the second vocalist's are curves 01:02:707 (1,2,3,4) - i could switch the direction of the pattern but it would be awkward and confusing

Bottom layer
=== The gap between this diff and the previous diffs is pretty significant. Given the added difficulty elements, I really don't feel like this is a reasonable enough spread, and I recommend adding another diff in between this and kusano's too (kusano and VINXIS's were very comfortable FCs for me, but this I can only barely pass after a couple of attempts). VINXIS's diff is much harder than kusano's from an objective standpoint and introduces every concept used in the top diff at a lower level: 1/4 highly spaced movement, higher density, and overall rhythm complexity with stuff like the doubles rhythms he uses. Despite the star rating disparity, there is MORE than enough introduction of the concepts used in the top diff in the set, and making an overstarred insane just for the sake of trying to fill a spread by star rating would both bloat the set and be completely unnecessary. i hope you can understand my perspective on why the spread is ok, if you want to talk more about it we can. i can lower the ar and hp of my diff if that helps?
- 00:03:484 (7) - I would say that this sort of rhythm would be better so that you map that weird clap thing on the white tick, and so there's less of a gap before the next combo.
doesn't really fit the song very well to me.. the gap is just following the music, adding a note "dumbs down" the rhythm
- 00:44:040 (1,2,3) - Would've liked to see more spacing between these to match with the build up better. spaced them a little more
- 00:52:040 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - What is this spike for aaaaaaaa. I think there's way too much going on through here in terms of movement that it feels less like playing according to the song and more just a big difficult mess. I would at least keep 00:52:040 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) this part somewhat similar since this is all part of the same vocal melody (maybe keep it as the ladder thing like the first 4 notes but keep the spacing increase) so that change at 00:52:929 (1,2,1,2) supports the dropped vocals and high pitched violins. 00:53:040 (2,2) don't even seem to be supported by music but I want to give a benefit of the doubt for adding extra emphasis for the build up/vioins.

this is the most intense part of the entire song, in the middle of the most intense section so it makes sense for it to be the hardest pattern in the map: this is not a jumbled mess, this is very comfortable 1/4 flow and a completely justified peak in intensity in the map. there is a constant 1/4 in the background that it is following that becomes more emphasized when the spacing increases if you're wondering how the pattern is supported by music. you
say there is "too much going on here in terms of movement" but i really don't think that's the case at all, it's completely reasonable to expect the player to be able to handle this after the clear introduction of the spaced 1/4 at 00:31:151 - how come THIS pattern isn't too much while this one is? multiple testplays from a varied amount of skill levels have hit both of these patterns consistently on sightread/after one play because they are well arranged, set up well within the context of the map and are overall reasonable movements to ask of the player: everyone from xilver to rlc was able to play them so i really do not think the pattern is too much, especially not when the entire map is built around it existing

thank you for the mod, i hope you understand my points: i will make an easy and hopefully that will be fine for spread

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-10-25T19:18:48+00:00

HP8 on last diff feels super unconfortable with that kind of mapping btw.

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-10-25T19:19:57+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
HP8 on last diff feels super unconfortable with that kind of mapping btw.

one can play a map well, but you can't. then you're just too weak

changed to hp 6 anyways Lol

VINXIS

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VINXIS 2017-10-25T19:23:40+00:00

shudup ur name rhymes wit coffin

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-10-25T21:55:01+00:00

Updated: added easy, changed expert stats to ar 9.2/od 8.5/hp 6, applied mods

@kusano i changed your HP to 6 for consistency i hope that is ok

Karen

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Karen 2017-10-26T12:16:32+00:00

i can qualify if you need

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-10-26T22:28:44+00:00

Karen wrote:
i can qualify if you need

yes please

i am not suring if mo is vetoing or not now that i have added easy, just waiting on him to recheck rn

Einja

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Einja 2017-10-28T19:36:25+00:00

add video pls thanx

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-11-02T22:28:32+00:00

kwk's insane to fix spread

video added bgs adjusted to accommodate new diffs

ready now!

irc mod with kwk on his diff kds myself

15:34 kwk: http://puu.sh/ydmeL/6cd3a39f59.osu
15:34 kwk: copy hitsounds from ur diff or soemthing
15:34 Kaifin: ill copy the hitsouonds
15:34 Kaifin: can we irc it rn
15:35 kwk: go
15:35 Kaifin: it fits the spread really well
15:35 Kaifin: btw
15:35 Kaifin: like perfectly
15:35 kwk: thats good
15:36 Kaifin: 00:13:818 (5,6) - i understand what you wer going for with the emphasis here but i think you should lower spacing a bit/make consistent with the other spacing
15:36 Kaifin: not cause its difficult it just looks weird
15:37 Kaifin: stuff like 00:36:040 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - is cool
15:43 Kaifin: 01:25:151 (5) -
15:43 Kaifin: would make this circles like 01:26:040 (2,3) - for consistency
15:43 Kaifin: 00:07:929 (2,3) - why is this far and this 00:08:373 (4,5) - close
15:43 Kaifin: imo would be better if you made both far cause 00:08:373 (4,5) - is the only close one
15:43 Kaifin: in the whole segment
15:44 kwk: 01:25:373 - beat here is weaker
15:44 Kaifin: 00:19:151 - consider something like this, would look a lot nicer + be easier to read/more what you're going for i think https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9455673
15:45 Kaifin: 01:27:373 - sad you didnt map out this double
15:45 kwk: the logic there was if it was the same ds then you wouldnt be able to highlight the piano 00:07:596 (1,2,3) -
15:45 kwk: maybe it makes better sense if the dsing was the other way around
15:45 Kaifin: yes
15:45 Kaifin: then flip them around i'd say
15:46 Kaifin: 00:23:373 (7,8,1) - this seems a little big randomly
15:47 Kaifin: considering the spacing of the 1/4 jumps in the last sectioion
15:47 Kaifin: at 00:18:262 -
15:49 kwk: ya made that smaller
15:49 Kaifin: 00:17:262 (4,1) -
15:49 Kaifin: y not just stack thes
15:51 kwk: cause shit never stacks properly
15:51 kwk: every map yo
15:51 kwk: always
15:51 kwk: idk why
15:51 Kaifin: 01:00:929 - this rhythm might get pointed out as a point but i think its prob fine
15:51 Kaifin: ok send updated ver whenever you're ready
15:52 kwk: also i legit didnt realise there was more stuff at the end
15:52 kwk: whats wrong witht hat rhythm
15:52 kwk: vinxis does it
15:53 Kaifin: its about what you make clickable
15:53 Kaifin: and what you dont make clickable
15:53 Kaifin: not about the rhythm itself
15:53 Kaifin: i do the same rhythm too just with different clickable objects
15:53 Kaifin: compare that rhythm to the rhythm you use at 01:02:707 -
15:54 Kaifin: 01:03:484 (5) - you make all the vocal syllables clickable here
15:54 Kaifin: 01:01:707 (5) - but not here
15:54 kwk: mm
15:57 kwk: well i'll change it later when i can think of a rhythm cause with what i have i think i'll have to make it like 3 1/4 sliders 01:00:929 (1,2,3) - which i dont really want
15:58 kwk: or maybe thats ok
15:58 kwk: hmm
15:58 Kaifin: its probably fine like that
15:58 Kaifin: i was pointing it out just in case
15:58 kwk: killing my patterns
15:59 Kaifin: send updated version so i can copy hs
15:59 kwk: sec, modding harder than mapping
16:00 Kaifin: Ok
16:06 Kaifin: 00:44:484 (5,3) - fix this stak too Lol
16:06 kwk: http://puu.sh/ydnsU/8c7b0b71f2.osu
16:06 kwk: u can fix it
16:06 kwk: lol
16:06 kwk: fix all the other ones u see
16:06 Kaifin: OOk
16:06 Kaifin: no reply = fixed?
16:06 kwk: also why is countdown enabled
16:06 kwk: angry
16:06 Kaifin: Unenabld
16:07 kwk: post logs in thread i give u kd
16:08 Kaifin: Niice

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2017-11-03T18:54:55+00:00

cute map

-Mo-

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-Mo- 2017-11-04T13:22:47+00:00

Easy looks fine.

kwk's
- 00:43:818 - Expected this to be clickable since your rhythm so far seems to imply following the vocals, and since the vocals are extra important here I would've kept to it.
- 01:01:929 - Similar thing. Each of the vocal notes in this section seems to be mapped to something clickable apart from this one, so it makes 01:02:040 (6) - stick out too.
- 01:18:707 (1,1,1,1) - If you care about stacking then you could fix these if you wanted, first two are off by a tiny amount but it's nazi so /shrug

I still don't fully agree with that one section in the top diff though. 00:31:151 is more acceptable to me because at least the spaced parts follow roughly a smooth path without a bunch of sharp angles everywhere like a more conventional stream, while 00:52:040 you're changing directions and speeds a lot. Since the spread is actually fixed though, it's probably more acceptable, but I do find it hard to believe that it's intuitive enough for as large a skill level as you claim.

I'm fine with it being pushed though even though I personally disagree with some of the choices, so you can get Delis/Karen to repair.

kwk

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kwk 2017-11-04T20:58:49+00:00

fixed all 3 points, thanks -Mo-

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Delis

1,433 posts

Joined May 2012

Delis 2017-11-05T16:29:44+00:00

kwk

00:02:929 (6,7,8) - yeah the piano is still different from 00:01:151 (2,3,4) - like it's stronk already at 00:01:262 - and 00:01:151 - is noticeable, 00:02:929 (6,7,8) - here the volume is increasingly raised. although with these I still don't get why this has a smaller spacing but weird patterning instead, like x0.6 and more clearn patterning for them is what would be most appropriate here. the 1/4 jump 00:03:484 (9,10) - is also questionable to me but should be your style, I see a lot people tend to use it as well so.

00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - not very comfortable because of the combo hitsounding and the patterning. as long as I tried to figure out the hitsound is random that is irrelevant to the song it self, whistle is constantly on 1/2 which doesn't support the pianos really, the clap is uh idk what it's supposed to do. 00:06:596 (2) - should remove the clap or 00:06:818 (4) - add one to do something reasonable if 00:06:484 (1,2,3,4) - has to be in the equivalent spacing, same goes for 00:07:151 (3,4,5,6) - like this totally looks like it needed to be as a group but is in 00:06:929 (1,2,3,4) - group instead, if this were increasingly spaced from 00:07:151 - the hitsounding would've worked nice enough though this isn't so this does look really weird to me.

00:09:707 (2,3) - any reason behind this has to be like this not 00:07:929 (2,3) - ? tbh this doesn't make sense besides intended to be bad on purpose.

00:13:818 - the normal sample feels out of place so 00:14:151 - is also not something would fill the sound in background.

00:18:262 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - they don't really play pretty when this isn't either spaced out, or being close enough. you're forced to keep the cursor movement slow on the overlapped streams then jumping around, that's common these days but still how the streams mapped out is what I don't really feel comfy at all :/. 00:18:707 (5,6,7) - how this plays would be one of the reasons the cursor feels stuck likely. would just not blanket with 00:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - then place it to be smoother like https://delisha.s-ul.eu/UcF2ttV5 (I fucked up making it but still a lot better to me) though making this no stream jumps at all is what this makes the best ideally after all since the 1/6 slider is very cancerous in a stream already.

00:24:373 (3,4) - swapping the hitsound doesn't make it reasonably having emphasis?? I assume that happened because of hitsound copier so would just move the normal sample 00:24:484 - but it still doesn't make any sense conflicting the usage of emphasis with 00:23:373 (7,8,1) -. if 00:23:596 (1) - meant to be emphasizing the vocal most likely I wouldn't understand what you're doing here lol, you didn't really do it until here.

00:39:596 - the part much getting less intensity can i just ask why. this part deserves more intense pattern than 00:36:040 - (or at least not this huge difference), but this feels like the mapper switched suddenly then mapped out with a different concept.

01:01:596 (4,5) - for the sake of playability, would rather put them closer not making them jumpy.

01:09:040 - 01:09:929 - no need to lower the volume.
not really a problem found in the kiai except it's quite messy in comparison lol

What would I do, this set has gone too far, uh.

kwk

572 posts

Joined May 2010

kwk 2017-11-05T20:57:00+00:00

Delis wrote:
kwk

00:02:929 (6,7,8) - yeah the piano is still different from 00:01:151 (2,3,4) - like it's stronk already at 00:01:262 - and 00:01:151 - is noticeable, 00:02:929 (6,7,8) - here the volume is increasingly raised. although with these I still don't get why this has a smaller spacing but weird patterning instead, like x0.6 and more clearn patterning for them is what would be most appropriate here. the 1/4 jump 00:03:484 (9,10) - is also questionable to me but should be your style, I see a lot people tend to use it as well so. spacing is lower cause piano is overall softer,i smoothed out the patterning though.

00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - not very comfortable because of the combo hitsounding and the patterning. as long as I tried to figure out the hitsound is random that is irrelevant to the song it self, whistle is constantly on 1/2 which doesn't support the pianos really, the clap is uh idk what it's supposed to do. 00:06:596 (2) - should remove the clap or 00:06:818 (4) - add one to do something reasonable if 00:06:484 (1,2,3,4) - has to be in the equivalent spacing, same goes for 00:07:151 (3,4,5,6) - like this totally looks like it needed to be as a group but is in 00:06:929 (1,2,3,4) - group instead, if this were increasingly spaced from 00:07:151 - the hitsounding would've worked nice enough though this isn't so this does look really weird to me. remapped patterning,should be more fitting with the hitsounding now

00:09:707 (2,3) - any reason behind this has to be like this not 00:07:929 (2,3) - ? tbh this doesn't make sense besides intended to be bad on purpose. made same

00:13:818 - the normal sample feels out of place so 00:14:151 - is also not something would fill the sound in background. 00:14:151 - is this only referring to the hitsound and not the rhythm? i changed it to soft

00:18:262 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - they don't really play pretty when this isn't either spaced out, or being close enough. you're forced to keep the cursor movement slow on the overlapped streams then jumping around, that's common these days but still how the streams mapped out is what I don't really feel comfy at all :/. 00:18:707 (5,6,7) - how this plays would be one of the reasons the cursor feels stuck likely. would just not blanket with 00:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - then place it to be smoother like https://delisha.s-ul.eu/UcF2ttV5 (I fucked up making it but still a lot better to me) though making this no stream jumps at all is what this makes the best ideally after all since the 1/6 slider is very cancerous in a stream already. remapped

00:24:373 (3,4) - swapping the hitsound doesn't make it reasonably having emphasis?? I assume that happened because of hitsound copier so would just move the normal sample 00:24:484 - but it still doesn't make any sense conflicting the usage of emphasis with 00:23:373 (7,8,1) -. if 00:23:596 (1) - meant to be emphasizing the vocal most likely I wouldn't understand what you're doing here lol, you didn't really do it until here. not really fully understanding what you're trying to say but 00:23:596 (1) vocal emphasis here is what im doing, and it doesnt really occur until this part because none of the other vocals before this bit is worth emphasising. i think normal sample is fine since 00:24:373 (3) - is vocal beat?

00:39:596 - the part much getting less intensity can i just ask why. this part deserves more intense pattern than 00:36:040 - (or at least not this huge difference), but this feels like the mapper switched suddenly then mapped out with a different concept. i interpret this bit more intense than the next part due to the presence of the drums+violin? on every white tick

01:01:596 (4,5) - for the sake of playability, would rather put them closer not making them jumpy. changed this and spacing stuff for the next 5 seconds

01:09:040 - 01:09:929 - no need to lower the volume. i cleaned it up
not really a problem found in the kiai except it's quite messy in comparison lol

What would I do, this set has gone too far, uh.

thanks for mod Delis

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ailv

403 posts

Joined August 2015

ailv 2017-12-12T08:23:42+00:00

kwk's

00:03:484 (9,10) - i think spacing should be higher its even smaller than 6-7-8 earleir

00:36:373 (2,3) - prolly increase spacing a little? 00:37:263 (2,3) - and 00:38:151 (2,3) - are all higher by a lot

00:47:373 (4,5) - high spacing here vs 00:54:707 (5) - lower spacing here, increase 00:54:707 (5) - spacing here and 00:55:373 (8,1) -

01:08:929 (5,6) - i think by keeping the pattern here the same the "So" vocal loses emphasis,

top diff

00:52:929 (1,2,1,2) - can you move 00:52:929 (1,2) - slightly up so it like looks cleaner https://ailv.s-ul.eu/504h4YmD

01:01:373 (3,4) - i think this spacing is slightly too large, 01:03:151 (3,4) - is smaller for example

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-12-12T20:43:27+00:00

ailv wrote:
top diff

00:52:929 (1,2,1,2) - can you move 00:52:929 (1,2) - slightly up so it like looks cleaner https://ailv.s-ul.eu/504h4YmD its a line right now,
i dont think it looks unclean? your suggestion makes it look worse because of the overlap between 2 and slider end

01:01:373 (3,4) - i think this spacing is slightly too large, 01:03:151 (3,4) - is smaller for example different kinds of movement, one follows the slider flow and one goes against it, which is why the second is smaller

thank you for mod!

alden

206 posts

Joined November 2013

alden 2017-12-13T02:03:33+00:00

hey nice diff kwk! just a few suggestions =w=

*00:08:929 (6,7,8) - I don't think this is really needed, there is no real sound on 00:09:040 (7) - that warrants this being clickable. I suggest using a slider into a circle like you did in 00:07:929 (2,3) -
*00:10:151 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - similarly I think the object usage here could be used better.00:10:151 (4) - The white tick is pretty important so i'd suggest making it clickable and I think the circles would play better if it started here 00:10:596 (6) - .Something like this would make more sense imo. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752325
*00:17:262 (4) - not really important but maybe make it parallel with 00:16:484 (1) - ?
00:19:596 (5,6,1) - i dont think there's any reason for these objects to be so close to each other and i think you can be more generous with the spacing here. Maybe like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752370. Oh and 00:20:262 (2) - isn't lined up with the stream but that's just nitpicking and it's barely noticeable.
*00:28:262 (2,3,4,5) - it'd be cool to see these 2 sets could be the same angle. I'm not feeling the asymmetry too much.
*01:13:596 (2,4) - dat blanket
*01:15:596 (3,1) - i dont think there's enough spacing here. What you could do is just ctrl+g all the notes individually for 01:15:818 (1,2,3,4) - but idk if you'll like it. I think changing the movement while keeping the structure looking the same would be nice since it'll be consistent with what you do here 01:08:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
*01:18:262 (3,4,5,6,1) - i mean u might as well make this a perfect hemisphere, I think it'll look at lot nicer that way.

kwk

572 posts

Joined May 2010

kwk 2017-12-13T02:31:52+00:00

ailv wrote:
kwk's

00:03:484 (9,10) - i think spacing should be higher its even smaller than 6-7-8 earleir made it the same, wont make it bigger cause want to focus on emphasizing the piano which occurs on 9 and not on 10

00:36:373 (2,3) - prolly increase spacing a little? 00:37:263 (2,3) - and 00:38:151 (2,3) - are all higher by a lot how, without breaking the entire structure?though i think the spacing is fine, its not that big of a distance that it requires them to all be similar

00:47:373 (4,5) - high spacing here vs 00:54:707 (5) - lower spacing here, increase 00:54:707 (5) - spacing here and 00:55:373 (8,1) - made 00:47:373 (4,5) - smaller a bit

01:08:929 (5,6) - i think by keeping the pattern here the same the "So" vocal loses emphasis, 01:09:151 (6) - i ctrl+g maybe its better

thanks ailv

ChronoNig wrote:
hey nice diff kwk! just a few suggestions =w=
*00:08:929 (6,7,8) - I don't think this is really needed, there is no real sound on 00:09:040 (7) - that warrants this being clickable. I suggest using a slider into a circle like you did in 00:07:929 (2,3) - but there is a sound though
*00:10:151 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - similarly I think the object usage here could be used better.00:10:151 (4) - The white tick is pretty important so i'd suggest making it clickable and I think the circles would play better if it started here 00:10:596 (6) - .Something like this would make more sense imo. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752325 im following piano rhythm mainly, and they occur on blue ticks, i changed rhythm here tho 00:10:596 -
*00:17:262 (4) - not really important but maybe make it parallel with 00:16:484 (1) - ? nope, i think its better aesthetically this way
00:19:596 (5,6,1) - i dont think there's any reason for these objects to be so close to each other and i think you can be more generous with the spacing here. Maybe like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9752370. Oh and 00:20:262 (2) - isn't lined up with the stream but that's just nitpicking and it's barely noticeable. ok
*00:28:262 (2,3,4,5) - it'd be cool to see these 2 sets could be the same angle. I'm not feeling the asymmetry too much. not sure how to do this without changing how the flow currently is, and i like how it flows atm
*01:13:596 (2,4) - dat blanket
*01:15:596 (3,1) - i dont think there's enough spacing here. What you could do is just ctrl+g all the notes individually for 01:15:818 (1,2,3,4) - but idk if you'll like it. I think changing the movement while keeping the structure looking the same would be nice since it'll be consistent with what you do here 01:08:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - hmm i ctrl+h'd the second set, and shifted some stuff around
*01:18:262 (3,4,5,6,1) - i mean u might as well make this a perfect hemisphere, I think it'll look at lot nicer that way. how do i make it 3d? :thinking: ,maybe its better now idk

thanks for mod ChronoNig

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Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Kaifin 2017-12-13T03:04:21+00:00

updated

Delis

1,433 posts

Joined May 2012

Delis 2017-12-13T09:42:27+00:00

kwk

00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - you apparently tried to fix things here but I really would say the spacing usage between the combos should be the other way around (I mean the smaller spacing for 00:06:484 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and the bigger for 00:07:151 (1,2,3,4) - ) because this is more like representing the piano by spacing rather than you doing for the hitsounds accordingly aka the drums. and for the sake of playability because the smaller spaced stream section plays quite awkward to jump onto the slider.

00:10:596 (1) - I have no clue why a new combo is here, a single combo along with the equally spaced stream looks a mess. I assume the new combo for 00:10:707 (1) - is probably supposed to emphasize the piano notes but that only makes 00:10:596 (1) - useless as a note as well. https://delisha.s-ul.eu/zBaWiA1W reworking the rhythm like this way will improve the aesthetic + would be more obvious what you're trying to do on this.

00:17:596 (5) - is this jump really something? the rhythm here is randomly mapped with a 1/4 reverse slider which forces the players sightread this a bit, overlap it with the spacing like 00:16:484 (1,2) - has.

00:27:373 (5) - tbh whistle fits

00:31:596 (5) - is spaced too much?? don't think the jump does do anything special in the first place but this unnecessarily placed away with such a huge spacing, could decrease it at least where the follow points don't show up.

00:39:929 (2,3) - 00:40:818 (6,7) - these circles still can be spaced up more the intensity from the monstrata alt patterns to this it's incredibly a big change when the violins and the little bigger drums are the only reason you ended up making this gap.

01:00:484 (7) - making a jump from 01:00:373 (6) - could give a better flow and somewhat consistency with the other patterns here

01:16:707 (1) - this overlap with 01:16:263 (3) - is really gross to me, literally you can do anything to avoid https://delisha.s-ul.eu/l9rlq8PA / https://delisha.s-ul.eu/iWEE3zJQ theres a lot of the ways to map it better

kwk

572 posts

Joined May 2010

kwk 2017-12-13T14:35:49+00:00

fixed everything
last point did some other pattern

thx delis

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Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-12-13T21:11:28+00:00

all updated

Karen

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Karen 2017-12-14T12:57:37+00:00

what is bgplaceholder.png

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00:03:484 (7) - the sound ends 00:03:818 - here imo so try extend the slider?
00:21:707 (5,1) - pretty weird that you don't space them when you did something different 00:14:596 (5,1) - here
00:38:596 (4,1) - spacing could be larger than 00:38:707 (1,2) - this to emphasize 00:38:707 (1) - this note

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-12-14T22:47:30+00:00

Karen wrote:
what is bgplaceholder.png woops removed it

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00:03:484 (7) - the sound ends 00:03:818 - here imo so try extend the slider? sure i extended it and lowered the sv a little to keep the pattern
00:21:707 (5,1) - pretty weird that you don't space them when you did something different 00:14:596 (5,1) - here spaced and changed up the pattern a bit, now i think its a much better pattern
00:38:596 (4,1) - spacing could be larger than 00:38:707 (1,2) - this to emphasize 00:38:707 (1) - this note shifted its position + angle slightly,
i didn't want the emphasis to be too big but hopefully now its more noticeable

thank you, all applied, i moved 00:46:707 (1,2,1,2) - down slightly as well so that the transition from 00:46:040 (1,2,3) - would play a bit better as well

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Congratulations! :0

riptiondesc

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riptiondesc 2017-12-16T17:57:35+00:00

Cool set

I initially failed like 10 times on kwk's diff at 01:07:151 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - without having any HP issues elsewhere

but I'm probably just too weak xd - a rank 200k has a pass

obviously this pattern isn't meant to be comfortable to hit

noticed HP for top diff was lowered to 6 and it's 6 on kwk's so maybe something to consider for spread... it's probably fine tho since kusano's diff is HP 6 too

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-12-16T19:05:06+00:00

thank you everyone!

@ription the hp on the kwk diff is fine, i havent seen anyone else run into issues with it yet but i will keep it in mind for the future, thanks for the feedback

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Doormat 2017-12-17T02:56:32+00:00

oh, been meaning to check this but then exams lol. grats though!

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