Tia - Deal with the devil · forum

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-10-14T09:40:07+00:00

HAHAHAHAHAHA MINE DOESN'T CHANGE

this is really cool though

Sulfur

278 posts

Joined December 2014

Sulfur 2017-10-14T18:59:17+00:00

short mod coz i have no clue how to mod stuff like this ;_;
Normal
00:21:884 (2,1) - I dont think normal is a good place for overlaps like this
00:28:645 (2,3) - also i think it would be better to stack those or something just so ppl dont missread this as a 1/1 gap

Advanced
00:47:895 (1,2) - and 00:49:585 (4,5) - i dont think its actually clear what u want to follow with those coz u skipping over white ticks, i think 1/2 reverses would work better for vocal

Hard
00:29:930 (2) - maybe NC for sv change

kwk
00:07:131 (3) - maybe 1/3 slider for this held sound idk
01:01:416 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - i think you could try something similar to this to give more emphasis on vocal at 01:02:261 -

top
01:27:402 (1) - this sliderbody is just a tiny bit offscreen on 4:3 res

hope it help a bit

defiance

503 posts

Joined July 2015

defiance 2017-10-14T19:09:50+00:00

on the advanced 00:18:081 (2) - has the whistle on the slider body, not sure if intentional or not

Yusomi

553 posts

Joined March 2014

Yusomi 2017-10-14T23:19:37+00:00

hii m4m request from your stream~

Expert

00:04:684 (4,5) - are you sure you wanna space this differently than the other patterns like this?
00:08:579 (2) - i'm not sure a sliderend is the most fitting object for the sound here
00:20:405 (3,1) - maybe stack this under the sliderend to match the stacking of other similar sounds?
if u agree with that then here too 00:27:166 (3,1) -
maybe stack 00:32:050 (2) - under 00:31:522 (2) - as it evens out the spacing for that pattern
just my opinion but maybe stack 00:32:895 (1) - 's sliderend on 00:32:156 (3) - as it helps to avoided the overlap with 00:32:684 (3) - which i don't think is very pretty
you could move 00:34:480 (2) - closer to 00:34:585 (3) - like you've done previously
00:34:797 (1) - same here
00:35:325 (1,2,3) - just a suggestion but maybe arrange like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9310900
01:15:571 (2,1) - are you sure you wanna make this 1/8 gap such similar spacing to the following 1/4 01:15:783 (2,3) - ?
01:30:256 (2,1,2) - haha i love the spacing but not sure it's appropriate, or at least i can't see it's reasoning. maybe move 01:30:470 (2) - closer to 01:30:363 (1) -

kwk's Expert

00:57:402 (2,3) - imo it feels odd to ignore the held vocal here. maybe change 00:57:613 (3) - for a 1/2 slider?

very clean map can't find anything to talk about ; w;

Xilver's Expert

00:08:372 (8,9) - i think maybe these should be spaced the same as 00:07:234 (2,3) - for consistency
00:50:008 (4,5) - maybe make this 1/4 spacing same as 00:48:106 (3,4) - ?
01:05:747 (7,8) - are you sure you wanna make the spacing smaller here despite the added cymbals(?) in the music?
01:20:853 (3) - i think the white node in this slider is an accident?

cool map

AIR's Insane

00:29:282 (1) - is this rankable?
01:13:318 (3,4) - ctrl+g this ? and then also ctrl+g this 01:13:599 (5,6) - . i think this change gives the notes the emphasis they deserve, just my opinion tho
01:28:439 (1) - remove nc here?

_83's insane

00:06:705 (1) - are you sure you want to use a sliderend to map such an intense sound?
00:47:261 (5,6) - maybe make this spacing the same as 00:46:205 (2,3) -
01:01:628 (3) - maybe just stack this under sliderend of 01:01:205 (1) -
01:14:726 (1,3) - if you agreed to the previous suggestion, here should be changed too
01:29:212 (2,3) - maybe make these not overlap perfectly to mimic the pattern at the start 00:03:727 (1,2,1,2) - ?
01:33:324 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - i think these sounds are much stronger than 01:26:557 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - so maybe a more intense pattern would be more fitting?

Good luck with the map, and thanks for introducing me to this song i love it !

Maffe

104 posts

Joined August 2014

Maffe 2017-10-15T11:50:33+00:00

expert

01:13:036 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This could be better if it was represented as 1,2,3 - 1,2,3

praise: its really cool

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kwk's expert

00:07:234 - Place something on this tick

00:08:372 - This could be held

00:29:930 (1) - Too much happening in the song here which is why it could be something else than 1 big slider

praise: good consistency

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xilver's expert

00:08:579 (9) - This could be disconnected from the rest

00:52:226 (4) - Im not sure if this is on the right tick

00:52:966 (6) - sliderend at a syllable start is kinda gross in this instance

01:04:057 (1,2) - This seems kind of uninteresting. Theres a bit of music there that could have some circles

praise: really reflective of the music kind of arrangements

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mir's expert

lol... im not sure if my brain suddenly stopped functioning but nothing really seems offputting here

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sdafsf's expert

00:18:926 (1,2,1,2,1) - Seems visually uncohesive

00:45:571 (1) - not sure if on the right tick

00:50:219 - music here

AIR's insane

00:32:473 (8) - nc

nc???????

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_83's insane

00:06:705 (1) - This could be a different object and disconnected from the pattern

00:30:146 - some music around here?

praise: bor

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Shani's hyper

00:16:180 (5,6) - not sure about spacing here

00:35:430 (5) - you can emphasize held vocals by making the slider bigger than the others. You dont have to extend the slider for all the vocal cuz then it just kills it. theres music under the slider map it

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I cant mod lower diffs and i also cant really mod at all because i can just think of an explanation for every point i make then it just becomes a subjective thing

sdafsf

309 posts

Joined October 2013

sdafsf 2017-10-15T11:59:46+00:00

Maffe wrote:
sdafsf's expert

00:18:926 (1,2,1,2,1) - Seems visually uncohesive dont see how

00:45:571 (1) - not sure if on the right tick timing for this song is weird. i think this is right considering the timing

00:50:219 - music here not what im following

use better formatting if you want to get into modding :p anyways thanks for the mod!

Asaiga

848 posts

Joined July 2013

Asaiga 2017-10-20T13:44:48+00:00

kwk xxx

UndeadCapulet

1,100 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

UndeadCapulet 2017-10-22T20:59:41+00:00

Sulfur wrote:
short mod coz i have no clue how to mod stuff like this ;_; giving your best attempt is all that matters~

top
01:27:402 (1) - this sliderbody is just a tiny bit offscreen on 4:3 res fixt

hope it help a bit

Yusomi wrote:
hii m4m request from your stream~

00:04:684 (4,5) - are you sure you wanna space this differently than the other patterns like this? was for emphasis but yeah the change in rhythm is prob enough
00:08:579 (2) - i'm not sure a sliderend is the most fitting object for the sound here slidertail gives a nice stopping feeling for me
00:20:405 (3,1) - maybe stack this under the sliderend to match the stacking of other similar sounds? looking for more motion here to transition from vocal line to vocal line
if u agree with that then here too 00:27:166 (3,1) -
maybe stack 00:32:050 (2) - under 00:31:522 (2) - as it evens out the spacing for that pattern prefer current for more obvious pitch separation of the 1 circle, don't want same spacings here
just my opinion but maybe stack 00:32:895 (1) - 's sliderend on 00:32:156 (3) - as it helps to avoided the overlap with 00:32:684 (3) - which i don't think is very pretty that overlap isn't an issue for me, prefer current arrange for nice slider handlings
you could move 00:34:480 (2) - closer to 00:34:585 (3) - like you've done previously this big snappingmotion is a pretty common theme of the map
00:34:797 (1) - same here
00:35:325 (1,2,3) - just a suggestion but maybe arrange like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9310900 similar to earlier, prefer current varied spacing arrange
01:15:571 (2,1) - are you sure you wanna make this 1/8 gap such similar spacing to the following 1/4 01:15:783 (2,3) - ? yes ww this isn't an issue at all, players will understand the spacing very easily
01:30:256 (2,1,2) - haha i love the spacing but not sure it's appropriate, or at least i can't see it's reasoning. maybe move 01:30:470 (2) - closer to 01:30:363 (1) - fixed by changing rhythm around, doesn't rly make much sense for me to have such heavy vocal clicking there ^^'

Good luck with the map, and thanks for introducing me to this song i love it !

EDIT: forgot to respond to maffe oops

Maffe wrote:
expert

01:13:036 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This could be better if it was represented as 1,2,3 - 1,2,3 prefer mine, think it matches the prominentsounding beats better

praise: its really cool thanks <3

Thanks for modding, y'all <3

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Foxy Grandpa 2017-10-24T03:11:18+00:00

placeholder aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa im lazy sorry

Aeril

Beatmap Nominator

666 posts

Joined May 2014

Aeril 2017-10-26T02:25:52+00:00

D

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-10-28T06:28:50+00:00

Yusomi wrote:
_83's insane

00:06:705 (1) - are you sure you want to use a sliderend to map such an intense sound? yes, basically how this works is, to play the next object, the player has to complete this slider, but also cannot move right afterwards, so there is a jarring effect on the blue tick here, so I will keep this.
00:47:261 (5,6) - maybe make this spacing the same as 00:46:205 (2,3) - ok sure, but note it doesn't really affect the player
01:01:628 (3) - maybe just stack this under sliderend of 01:01:205 (1) - I would prefer the higher spacing provided by my current arrangement
01:14:726 (1,3) - if you agreed to the previous suggestion, here should be changed too read above
01:29:212 (2,3) - maybe make these not overlap perfectly to mimic the pattern at the start 00:03:727 (1,2,1,2) - ? ok sure
01:33:324 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - i think these sounds are much stronger than 01:26:557 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - so maybe a more intense pattern would be more fitting? I guess so, so what I did was space the triples a little further away from eachother

Maffe wrote:
expert

_83's insane

00:06:705 (1) - This could be a different object and disconnected from the pattern responded to this above, basically the slider end has a jarring effect to it because to play the following note the movement completely stops.

00:30:146 - some music around here? there are held notes from previous beats but nothing articulated so I don't want to put any objects here.

praise: bor

hopefully someone enjoys my hitsounds lmao https://bor.s-ul.eu/nQJjkKlc.osu

kwk

572 posts

Joined May 2010

kwk 2017-10-28T06:47:48+00:00

Sulfur wrote:
kwk
00:07:131 (3) - maybe 1/3 slider for this held sound idk i think keeping it as a note gives it more impact
01:01:416 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - i think you could try something similar to this to give more emphasis on vocal at 01:02:261 - changed patterning around here

Yusomi wrote:
00:57:402 (2,3) - imo it feels odd to ignore the held vocal here. maybe change 00:57:613 (3) - for a 1/2 slider? sure

very clean map can't find anything to talk about ; w;

Maffe wrote:
kwk's expert

00:07:234 - Place something on this tick unnecessary imo

00:08:372 - This could be held sure

00:29:930 (1) - Too much happening in the song here which is why it could be something else than 1 big slider changed rhythm

thanks for the mods!

dfgh

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_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-10-31T14:46:27+00:00

legend says if you believe hard enough this post will be edited with replies

AIR

1,577 posts

Joined November 2012

AIR 2017-11-01T12:04:09+00:00

spomacmega wrote:
00:17:447 to 00:20:511 and 00:24:208 to 00:27:166 feels weird when i play it, i think it's not in the rhythm.
idk how to explain or where to put the note's in this reply section lol im a noob so i just copy the [Hit Objects] code of the AIR's Insane diff. map.

Yusomi wrote:
00:29:282 (1) - is this rankable? isn't? not certain
01:13:318 (3,4) - ctrl+g this ? and then also ctrl+g this 01:13:599 (5,6) - . i think this change gives the notes the emphasis they deserve, just my opinion tho
01:28:439 (1) - remove nc here? redline here

Maffe wrote:
00:32:473 (8) - nc fixed

nc??????? ???????

thanks!

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Halfslashed

Global Moderator

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Halfslashed 2017-11-27T05:17:10+00:00

[General]
Change drum-hitfinish5.mp3 into a wav.
Might just be me, but it sounds to me like 00:15:546 to 00:17:236 is either off-timed or each beat starts 1/6 later.

[Kissulet's Advanced]
00:06:705 (6,1) - Your current spacing makes it hard to tell that 00:06:705 (6,1) - is an unusual gap. Try rotating 6 by 36 degrees.
00:07:131 (1) - The slider track overlap and an instant loop right after clicking the circle seems too unintuitive for players to grasp at this level. Try moving the point on the head to something like this.
00:18:081 (2) - Remove slider body whistle.

[Shiguma's Hard]
00:06:812 (6) - I recommend using a normal-hitwhistle to match the big brass more appropriately.
00:07:234 (2,3) - This is the most straining part of the map due to all of the consecutive 1/2 after a 1/4, so I recommend breaking up the note chain by changing this into a 1/2 slider.
00:10:476 - 00:30:361 - Make sure that the green and red lines have the same volume settings.
00:17:236 - 00:23:997 - 00:47:684 - I recommend replacing these claps with soft finishes, since these are all ends of 4 measure groups and they're more musically appropriate.
00:29:067 - Remove drum sampleset from slider body.
01:12:825 - 01:26:346 - A normal-hitclap would work well here.
01:20:853 (1) - You really are oko's mentee.
01:33:324 (1) - At least use some 1/6 sliders to finish off the map, you already used 1/6 sliders all through the kiai with things like 01:13:036 (1,2,3) -.

[Shani's Hyper]
00:20:616 (1) - Remove sliderbody whistle.

[_83's Insane]
Bring back bor.
00:17:236 - I think you should change all of your 3/4 sliders in this section to 5/6 sliders since the hihats for the tails of things like 00:18:081 (3) - 00:18:926 (1) - are on 00:18:433 - 00:19:278 - respectively, especially since you acknowledge the purple ticks starting from 00:30:783 -.

[AIR's Insane]
00:10:476 - Make sure that the green and red lines have the same volume settings.
00:10:476 (1) - Remove sliderbody whistle.
00:11:321 (3,4) - Spacing here is too large for your typical 1/4 spacing, especially when compared to 00:14:701 (4,5) - which is a similar part. I would suggest ctrl+g on 4 and putting 3 in a straight line with 4 like you did for 00:14:701 (4,5) -, but you might have a better idea of how to fix.
00:12:166 (1,2) - This jump is way too large for the intensity of the song, I recommend moving 00:12:377 (2,3,4,5,6) - to the left to reduce spacing here.
00:18:715 (4,5,6) - Spacing here is a bit large after nothing but stacks, try using similar spacing to what you did for 00:25:476 (5,6,7) -.
01:14:726 (1,2) - The low spacing here contradicts your spacing for 01:01:205 (1,2) - which makes 01:14:937 - feel extremely underwhelming, so I recommend trying to use similar spacing. One way you could fix this is by rotating 1 180 degrees and moving 01:15:149 (2,3,4) - (if you do this, match the spacing of 3,4 with 01:01:733 (3,4) - ) but there is probably a better way.
01:28:439 (1,2) - Uhh... This looks like a spacing error, spacing is absurdly large for 1/4. I suggest 01:28:552 (2,3) - to the left and putting 01:28:439 (1) - in a line with them.

[sdafsf's Expert]
00:03:727 - 00:07:131 - 00:10:476 - 01:28:247 - Make sure that the green and red lines have the same volume settings.
00:05:003 (1,2) - The large spacing here takes away from the emphasis on 00:05:429 (1) - and also doesn't acknowledge the lower intensity of the drums here. I recommend moving 2 to create a triangle with 00:04:684 (3,4) - like this.
00:22:517 (1) - Missing soft-hitwhistle.
00:29:067 (1) - Remove slider body whistle.
00:37:015 (1,2) - I recommend adding soft-hitwhistles here to complement the whistle on 00:36:486 (5) -., since the lack of hitsounding for 00:35:747 (1,2,3,4) - makes it sound out of place as is.
00:56:874 (4) - A soft-hitclap would work really well here to complement 00:57:085 (1) -.
01:10:395 (4) - Offscreen object.
01:12:825 (2) - 01:26:346 (2) - Add soft-hitclap.

[Aeril's Expert]
00:04:046 (1,2) - I recommend increasing spacing here for consistency with 00:05:748 (1,2) -.
00:49:585 (2,3) - I think if you swap the order of these, it will fit the decreasing instrumental pitch more appropriately in terms of spacing, as well as provide a nice contrast with 00:50:536 (6,7,8,1) -. It should look like this.
00:54:444 (1,2,1,2,1) - As is, the transition between 00:55:712 (2,1) - doesn't have very much impact since it doesn't really have contrast aside from the spacing. I recommend reworking your pattern to have a circular motion between each pair of sliders by doing ctrl+g individually on 00:54:444 (1) - 00:55:290 (1) - .
01:10:395 (4,5,6,7) - Hitsounding is pretty dull here, I recommend adding drum-hitfinishes on 4,6 and the tail of 5 and a normal-hitnormal on 7 (make sure to change to soft additions).
01:12:719 (1) - I know you wanted to express the vocal with hold here but I don't really think this fits well. You're better off doing ctrl+g on 01:12:508 (4,1) -'s rhythm and stacking 1 under the tail of 4 to get a stop with a fast release like you currently have.
01:12:508 - 01:12:825 - If you changed above, I recommend drum-hitfinishes on both of these to patch up the lack of hitsounding compared to the rest of the kiai.
01:26:557 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - The angles and spacings here have almost no resemblence to what you did for the 1/3 pattern at 01:13:036 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - due to the types of spacing changes you use and differences in angles. I recommend making them consistent to avoid an unnecessary difficulty increase.

[Mir's Expert]
00:06:705 (1,2) - I recommend a placement like this to contrast from stuff like 00:06:067 (1,2,3,4) - and emphasize the change in the instrumental.
00:23:257 - Delete one of these timing lines.
00:23:574 (3) - This is hella offscreen on 4:3.
00:30:074 (1) - Remove the normal-hitnormals on everything except the head, it's very jarring and provides no differentiation from the next rhythm.
00:30:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you're going to use normal-hitnormals on a stream like this, lower the volume, since currently this is extremely jarring in terms of feedback.
00:37:966 (3,4,5,1) - 00:39:233 (1,2,3,4,1) - Neither of these placements seem to fit well with the angles you chose to use due to not really emphasizing transitions between sections or anything particular in the song, unlike 00:36:275 (3,4,5,6) - which at least makes some sense, so I think you're better off using curves like you did for most 1/4 in the section before and save the more intense things for stuff like 00:40:395 (5,6,1) -.
00:42:613 (1) - Try ctrl+g on this slider to correlate it more to your pattern from 00:15:546 (1,2) -
00:47:473 (6,1) - Way too extreme of a transition for a calm section. If you're going to use the stack on 00:47:473 (6,1) -, you're better off doing ctrl+h on 00:47:684 (1,2,3,4) - with some rearrangements and using a spacing like this for a less abrupt transition.
00:52:966 (1,2) - I recommend reducing spacing here by moving 1 down so that distance between slider heads is similar to 00:53:599 (3,4,5,6) - in order to contrast between the two vocal rhythms.

[kwk's Expert]
00:15:123 - Add soft whistle here.
00:56:346 (1,2,3,4,1) - Since you didn't use 1/4 patterns with abrupt spacing changes like this for similar sections of the song, this large spacing change comes off as unpredictable. I recommend either reducing the spacing here or building momentum more gradually like you did for 00:15:968 (1,2,3,1) - 00:43:036 (1,2,3,1) -.
01:03:952 (2,3) - I recommend buffing spacing here to match 01:03:318 (2,3) - 01:03:635 (4,1) - since they are of similar intensity.

[Xilver's Expert]
00:13:574 (9,10) - I recommend using a 1/4 slider here to represent the brass a bit better and differentiate a bit more from 00:11:954 (9) -
01:30:470 - I think adding a circle here would match the percussion better and would be more predictable due to 01:29:520 (2,3) -
00:39:233 (1) - Remove normal-hitnormal here.

[Expert]
01:04:057 (2,1,2,3) - I'm still not really convinced this is appropriate due to combination of the high spacing and the wide angle due to all of the momentum players have coming is, since this ends up more stressed than 01:03:106 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) -. I think it'd be better to match the pacing of the previous back and forth and lower your spacing here to also make this more manageable.
01:10:360 (1,2) - I agree with MaridiuS on this, there is overall too much emphasis being put on 2 with the tail aiming away from the next note and the high spacing. Rotating 1 to point towards 2 would work better here.

If we can get the snapping/timing sorted out for the section in general, this should be all.

UndeadCapulet

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Topic Starter

UndeadCapulet 2017-11-27T05:58:17+00:00

if i respond for a gder it's bc they asked me to

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]
Change drum-hitfinish5.mp3 into a wav. fixt w/ foxyhelp
Might just be me, but it sounds to me like 00:15:546 to 00:17:236 is either off-timed or each beat starts 1/6 later. we talked in irc, gonna get more onions on this

[Shani's Hyper]
00:20:616 (1) - Remove sliderbody whistle. fixt

[Expert]
01:04:057 (2,1,2,3) - I'm still not really convinced this is appropriate due to combination of the high spacing and the wide angle due to all of the momentum players have coming is, since this ends up more stressed than 01:03:106 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) -. I think it'd be better to match the pacing of the previous back and forth and lower your spacing here to also make this more manageable. hehe well, i think it's fitting since this is the peak of this vocal line with the high pitch, and then the decrease sv to fit the winddown, i know it's like, hard to hit, but im rly attached to the thought that it's fittingly hard to hit ^^'
01:10:360 (1,2) - I agree with MaridiuS on this, there is overall too much emphasis being put on 2 with the tail aiming away from the next note and the high spacing. Rotating 1 to point towards 2 would work better here. yeah as i said to maridius i was waiting for further opinions, willing to nerf since it does stick out, hope the new arrange is acceptable

If we can get the snapping/timing sorted out for the section in general, this should be all.

Thanks so much Halfslashed, I know how much work checking this massive set is and really appreciate the time and help ;-;
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kwk

572 posts

Joined May 2010

kwk 2017-11-27T06:02:02+00:00

i think whistle patterning is following piano but foxy can deal with it [?!]
fixed everything else

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sdafsf

309 posts

Joined October 2013

sdafsf 2017-11-27T07:57:14+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]

[sdafsf's Expert]
00:03:727 - 00:07:131 - 00:10:476 - 01:28:247 - Make sure that the green and red lines have the same volume settings. fixed
00:05:003 (1,2) - The large spacing here takes away from the emphasis on 00:05:429 (1) - and also doesn't acknowledge the lower intensity of the drums here. I recommend moving 2 to create a triangle with 00:04:684 (3,4) - like this. done
00:22:517 (1) - Missing soft-hitwhistle. yes
00:29:067 (1) - Remove slider body whistle.hm ok
00:37:015 (1,2) - I recommend adding soft-hitwhistles here to complement the whistle on 00:36:486 (5) -., since the lack of hitsounding for 00:35:747 (1,2,3,4) - makes it sound out of place as is. this would contradict the way i use soft whistles in this map. these 4 sliders go over a long vocal so the lack of whistles reflects that.
00:56:874 (4) - A soft-hitclap would work really well here to complement 00:57:085 (1) -. sure
01:10:395 (4) - Offscreen object. fixed
01:12:825 (2) - 01:26:346 (2) - Add soft-hitclap. sure

tfw its 9 am and i could be sleeping

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Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2017-11-27T08:44:32+00:00

Sulfur wrote:

Hard
00:29:930 (2) - maybe NC for sv change k

Halfslashed wrote:
[Shiguma's Hard]
00:06:812 (6) - I recommend using a normal-hitwhistle to match the big brass more appropriately. but it is using a normal hitwhistle lol
00:07:234 (2,3) - This is the most straining part of the map due to all of the consecutive 1/2 after a 1/4, so I recommend breaking up the note chain by changing this into a 1/2 slider. sure
00:10:476 - 00:30:361 - Make sure that the green and red lines have the same volume settings. whoops fixed
00:17:236 - 00:23:997 - 00:47:684 - I recommend replacing these claps with soft finishes, since these are all ends of 4 measure groups and they're more musically appropriate. okay
00:29:067 - Remove drum sampleset from slider body. i dont see why, its not like there is silence in the song here, and i dont find the sliderslide annoying
01:12:825 - 01:26:346 - A normal-hitclap would work well here. ok
01:20:853 (1) - You really are oko's mentee. and UC's mentee!
01:33:324 (1) - At least use some 1/6 sliders to finish off the map, you already used 1/6 sliders all through the kiai with things like 01:13:036 (1,2,3) -. so i had it as 1/6th sliders, but i didn't like the effect as much as the repeat 1/6th i have it as now, i think the back and forth is a good contrast imo

update

AIR

1,577 posts

Joined November 2012

AIR 2017-11-27T11:05:01+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[AIR's Insane]
00:10:476 - Make sure that the green and red lines have the same volume settings. fixed
00:10:476 (1) - Remove sliderbody whistle. fixed
00:11:321 (3,4) - Spacing here is too large for your typical 1/4 spacing, especially when compared to 00:14:701 (4,5) - which is a similar part. I would suggest ctrl+g on 4 and putting 3 in a straight line with 4 like you did for 00:14:701 (4,5) -, but you might have a better idea of how to fix. fixed
00:12:166 (1,2) - This jump is way too large for the intensity of the song, I recommend moving 00:12:377 (2,3,4,5,6) - to the left to reduce spacing here. fixed
00:18:715 (4,5,6) - Spacing here is a bit large after nothing but stacks, try using similar spacing to what you did for 00:25:476 (5,6,7) -.fixed
01:14:726 (1,2) - The low spacing here contradicts your spacing for 01:01:205 (1,2) - which makes 01:14:937 - feel extremely underwhelming, so I recommend trying to use similar spacing. One way you could fix this is by rotating 1 180 degrees and moving 01:15:149 (2,3,4) - (if you do this, match the spacing of 3,4 with 01:01:733 (3,4) - ) but there is probably a better way. fixed
01:28:439 (1,2) - Uhh... This looks like a spacing error, spacing is absurdly large for 1/4. I suggest 01:28:552 (2,3) - to the left and putting 01:28:439 (1) - in a line with them.fixed

thanks! update

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Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-11-27T16:46:16+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[Mir's Expert]
00:06:705 (1,2) - I recommend a placement like this to contrast from stuff like 00:06:067 (1,2,3,4) - and emphasize the change in the instrumental.
00:23:257 - Delete one of these timing lines.
00:23:574 (3) - This is hella offscreen on 4:3.
00:30:074 (1) - Remove the normal-hitnormals on everything except the head, it's very jarring and provides no differentiation from the next rhythm.
00:30:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you're going to use normal-hitnormals on a stream like this, lower the volume, since currently this is extremely jarring in terms of feedback.
00:37:966 (3,4,5,1) - 00:39:233 (1,2,3,4,1) - Neither of these placements seem to fit well with the angles you chose to use due to not really emphasizing transitions between sections or anything particular in the song, unlike 00:36:275 (3,4,5,6) - which at least makes some sense, so I think you're better off using curves like you did for most 1/4 in the section before and save the more intense things for stuff like 00:40:395 (5,6,1) -.
00:42:613 (1) - Try ctrl+g on this slider to correlate it more to your pattern from 00:15:546 (1,2) -
00:47:473 (6,1) - Way too extreme of a transition for a calm section. If you're going to use the stack on 00:47:473 (6,1) -, you're better off doing ctrl+h on 00:47:684 (1,2,3,4) - with some rearrangements and using a spacing like this for a less abrupt transition.
00:52:966 (1,2) - I recommend reducing spacing here by moving 1 down so that distance between slider heads is similar to 00:53:599 (3,4,5,6) - in order to contrast between the two vocal rhythms.

More or less fixed all of it.

I didn't think this would get seriously checked lmao I would have toned down the diff if I knew it would be. Anyways:

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anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-11-27T20:05:24+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]
Might just be me, but it sounds to me like 00:15:546 to 00:17:236 is either off-timed or each beat starts 1/6 later.

lol

~~I'll respond with my stuff later tonight~~

actually just call me when everyone else has responded and I'll work on the timing for all the diffs

Xilver15

Former osu! Champion: 2015

510 posts

Joined August 2013

Xilver15 2017-11-27T21:36:03+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]

[Xilver's Expert]
00:13:574 (9,10) - I recommend using a 1/4 slider here to represent the brass a bit better and differentiate a bit more from 00:11:954 (9) - I think it gives emphasis to 00:13:856 (1) - , and I feel like it's different enough when compared to 00:11:673 (7,8,9) -
01:30:470 - I think adding a circle here would match the percussion better and would be more predictable due to 01:29:520 (2,3) - Done.
00:39:233 (1) - Remove normal-hitnormal here. Done.

Yusomi wrote:
00:08:372 (8,9) - i think maybe these should be spaced the same as 00:07:234 (2,3) - for consistency Done.
00:50:008 (4,5) - maybe make this 1/4 spacing same as 00:48:106 (3,4) - ? Done.
01:05:747 (7,8) - are you sure you wanna make the spacing smaller here despite the added cymbals(?) in the music? Sliders are mapped to vocals, and I don't think the cymbal sound is strong enough to call for a spacing change.
01:20:853 (3) - i think the white node in this slider is an accident? Nope, it still places the slider on the grid.

cool map Thanks!

Maffe wrote:
xilver's expert

00:52:226 (4) - Im not sure if this is on the right tick Mapped to vocals.

00:52:966 (6) - sliderend at a syllable start is kinda gross in this instance Fair, changed.

01:04:057 (1,2) - This seems kind of uninteresting. Theres a bit of music there that could have some circles I changed the spacing arrange a bit.

praise: really reflective of the music kind of arrangements Thanks!

Thanks for modding!! https://puu.sh/yuLni/1ad4f3fe6f.osu

Aeril

Beatmap Nominator

666 posts

Joined May 2014

Aeril 2017-11-27T23:47:29+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[Aeril's Expert]
00:04:046 (1,2) - I recommend increasing spacing here for consistency with 00:05:748 (1,2) -. yea
00:49:585 (2,3) - I think if you swap the order of these, it will fit the decreasing instrumental pitch more appropriately in terms of spacing, as well as provide a nice contrast with 00:50:536 (6,7,8,1) -. It should look like this. it is mapped to the slight emphasis on 3 and less on 2 and 4
00:54:444 (1,2,1,2,1) - As is, the transition between 00:55:712 (2,1) - doesn't have very much impact since it doesn't really have contrast aside from the spacing. I recommend reworking your pattern to have a circular motion between each pair of sliders by doing ctrl+g individually on 00:54:444 (1) - 00:55:290 (1) - . ye thats cool, fits the phrasing by the vocalist
01:10:395 (4,5,6,7) - Hitsounding is pretty dull here, I recommend adding drum-hitfinishes on 4,6 and the tail of 5 and a normal-hitnormal on 7 (make sure to change to soft additions). oh i missed a few hitsounds here thx for the catch
01:12:719 (1) - I know you wanted to express the vocal with hold here but I don't really think this fits well. You're better off doing ctrl+g on 01:12:508 (4,1) -'s rhythm and stacking 1 under the tail of 4 to get a stop with a fast release like you currently have. yea
01:12:508 - 01:12:825 - If you changed above, I recommend drum-hitfinishes on both of these to patch up the lack of hitsounding compared to the rest of the kiai. yea
01:26:557 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - The angles and spacings here have almost no resemblence to what you did for the 1/3 pattern at 01:13:036 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - due to the types of spacing changes you use and differences in angles. I recommend making them consistent to avoid an unnecessary difficulty increase. its different due to the change in vocal intensity from the previous one and also how it's enunciated; the first has the words "coming in" kind of to keep that feel of harshness while this one has the words "leaving" kind of so it got a change in angular flow to emphasize that as it is the end of the chorus

map

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
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[Editor]
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TitleUnicode:Deal with the devil
Artist:Tia
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UndeadCapulet 2017-11-28T01:19:21+00:00

ok thats everyone, applied the stuff in our collab as well hope darling kisses doesnt mind

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