jesse1412 wrote:
And I'll say it again. If you have a 20 star 20 second map and someone fc's it, you'd have to be braindead to argue that it should be worth less than 900pp; thus 20 second maps CAN give 900pp.
you have some misconception of what i meant there, we have a clear comparison of maps with kinda same star rating, right? so lets say, we have these two freedom dive hdhr and haitai 3mod. the first one demands all the possible abilities to get an FC (reading, speed, aim, stamina, memorization), its 4 min and u get a 800 pp for it.
the second one is ONLY focused on ONE aspect of the game, which is aim, and its literally x12 times shorter than freedom dive map.
x12 times, and its only requires one ability to have (FD requires at least 5).
so even if the HAITAI was 4 min with the same jumps all over the table, it would still be less valuable than FD score, cause it requires less anyway.
I know it sounds kinda strange but... Ill never be ok with the thought that less effort gives more rewards. its just not how life works.
True but you're relying on the touchscreen player to only use touchscreen. If the player uses keyboard/mouse/tablet to do the first few stream sections of a map and then swaps to touchscreen for an ending jump spike, it becomes possible.
Cmon, we both know its impossible.
Completely wrong, did you read the OP and watch the video provided? It explains why. If a tablet player could set the scores that freedom diver set, they'd definitely deserve 800+pp. That play is FUCKING INSANE, regardless of whether jumps are slightly overweighted. PP is mostly not the issue, touchscreen is the issue.
I still disagree, if the system would work normally, there wouldnt be a 20 sec 900 pp scores on a map that was made in literally 30-40 mins with no effort at all. People are ranking short maps because of the score in first place, not cause its fun and shit.
Talking about touchscreens again in particular, its just allows AIM-aspect to dissapear from the actual diffuculty, but it struggles with other aspects of the gameplay (reading, streaming etc).
Nerfing the touchscreen will not resolve the issue because people will find other techniques to abuse JUMPS, the issue is more in the map, in my opinion.