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Kuron-kun
grats!
Omedetou kuronkun
It seems no one made a final confirmation on Taiko based on the thread, since the latest change from ghm12 7 days ago.
[Taiko-tou]
> 00:15:883 - from this 0.8x section, 1/6s are hard to distiguish the actual incoming time visually. While in musical sense, 1/6 usage could be implemented right after the Kiai since the after Kiai session contains more layers. No need to make some early bursts in the introduction part imo unless strong rationale behind.
> 01:42:714 - shifting the SV green timing point to 01:42:080 - can give a small notice to players that: SVs are going to change due to different velocity of barlines.
> 02:16:517 - you missed a note here?
> 02:37:432 - imitating the similar SV changes at 02:50:953 - , a 1.01x timing point should be put here.
! 04:02:362 - redundant barline here, you should have a red timing point with barline omission set. Make sure add it in EVERY difficulty.
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I am confused that no one checked the Taiko diff. before the whole set was approved, what a pity.
[Taiko-tou]
> 00:15:883 - from this 0.8x section, 1/6s are hard to distiguish the actual incoming time visually. While in musical sense, 1/6 usage could be implemented right after the Kiai since the after Kiai session contains more layers. No need to make some early bursts in the introduction part imo unless strong rationale behind.
> 01:42:714 - shifting the SV green timing point to 01:42:080 - can give a small notice to players that: SVs are going to change due to different velocity of barlines.
> 02:16:517 - you missed a note here?
> 02:37:432 - imitating the similar SV changes at 02:50:953 - , a 1.01x timing point should be put here.
! 04:02:362 - redundant barline here, you should have a red timing point with barline omission set. Make sure add it in EVERY difficulty.
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I am confused that no one checked the Taiko diff. before the whole set was approved, what a pity.
Kuron-kun
disqualifying as the bar line issue in the taiko diff actually exists
the solutions are either
- adding a red line to 04:02:362 - with the "Omit first bar line" option checked (ALL difficulties), or
- moving the entire ending -2 ms since natural progression ends up landing at 04:02:362 -
(also tons of unnecessary bar lines in 04:20:364 - , please do omit every single one that doesn't correspond to a downbeat)
be sure to check the rest of Skylish's mod, too!
the solutions are either
- adding a red line to 04:02:362 - with the "Omit first bar line" option checked (ALL difficulties), or
- moving the entire ending -2 ms since natural progression ends up landing at 04:02:362 -
(also tons of unnecessary bar lines in 04:20:364 - , please do omit every single one that doesn't correspond to a downbeat)
be sure to check the rest of Skylish's mod, too!
why are u using tragic in the diffname when the story is not really tragic? sad is definitely a better adjective to describe it
except that this isnt mentioned in the song and the video of it also doesnt support ur argument
also worth to mention is that od8 is way too low because the patterns u are using are pretty easy and hp5 is making it way too easy to pass the map with the same argument
also worth to mention is that od8 is way too low because the patterns u are using are pretty easy and hp5 is making it way too easy to pass the map with the same argument
Kuron-kun
It's kinda irrelevant if the "tragic" fits on the diffname... it really fits to me. And I can see people falling from the tower, lol
I can't see why having pretty easy patterns (they aren't that easy) is a reason to increase the OD or HP. The HP isn't that low to be increased and the reason I kept it under the average (which is 6, I guess) is that I don't want people to insta-fail on sections like the ones in the middle of the song, where you even have 1/4 jumps.
As for the OD... I can't see why 8 isn't a good OD. Don't want to make it super hard to get a good accuracy.
I can't see why having pretty easy patterns (they aren't that easy) is a reason to increase the OD or HP. The HP isn't that low to be increased and the reason I kept it under the average (which is 6, I guess) is that I don't want people to insta-fail on sections like the ones in the middle of the song, where you even have 1/4 jumps.
As for the OD... I can't see why 8 isn't a good OD. Don't want to make it super hard to get a good accuracy.
Diff name is fine if it has a relation to the song/theme of the map/context, etc, which seems to be the case here.
keep in mind that from what we've seen from when it was qualified, it had a low pass rate and only a handful of 98%+ scoresStjpa wrote:
also worth to mention is that od8 is way too low because the patterns u are using are pretty easy and hp5 is making it way too easy to pass the map with the same argument
od8 isnt low for this kind of map with different rhythms being thrown at the player constantly
hp5 is probably so people dont die from missing a single jumpstream since that's a frustrating experience for the player
Dada wrote:
keep in mind that from what we've seen from when it was qualified, it had a low pass rate and only a handful of 98%+ scoresStjpa wrote:
also worth to mention is that od8 is way too low because the patterns u are using are pretty easy and hp5 is making it way too easy to pass the map with the same argument
od8 isnt low for this kind of map with different rhythms being thrown at the player constantly
hp5 is probably so people dont die from missing a single jumpstream (jumpstreams only exist in mania and you are talking about the standard difficulty) since that's a frustrating experience for the player
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jumpstream as in stream with occasional 1/4 jumps in it, not a stream with double notes like in maniaCra Dow wrote:
keep in mind that from what we've seen from when it was qualified, it had a low pass rate and only a handful of 98%+ scores
od8 isnt low for this kind of map with different rhythms being thrown at the player constantly
hp5 is probably so people dont die from missing a single jumpstream (jumpstreams only exist in mania and you are talking about the standard difficulty
03:04:052 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - wots up with the diff spike here, just seems totally unreasonable to play and is like a 0.20 sr boost lol. something like 04:56:007 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - is more in line with the difficulty of the map
00:56:799 (2) - 00:57:644 (2) - 00:58:489 (2) - 00:59:334 (2) - and the snapping with this seems a little pointless, especially when you use the same visuals as 1/4 - i wasn't even aware it was 1/6 until opening the editor. could just snap to 1/4 for intuition, or at least make it visually apparent that the snapping is different
but ye fun map
00:56:799 (2) - 00:57:644 (2) - 00:58:489 (2) - 00:59:334 (2) - and the snapping with this seems a little pointless, especially when you use the same visuals as 1/4 - i wasn't even aware it was 1/6 until opening the editor. could just snap to 1/4 for intuition, or at least make it visually apparent that the snapping is different
but ye fun map
ta falando q o mapa é trágico? lulNet0 wrote:
Diff name is fine if it has a relation to the song/theme of the map/context, etc, which seems to be the case here.
Awhh...but I think the diffname is fine since the diffname is suitable with the song, i mean with the lyrics (Kuron-kun already tell before this map is qualify)
Kuron-kun
applied Raiden's changes as well, wasn't aware about the Omit first bar line rule in Taiko.Pentori wrote:
03:04:052 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - wots up with the diff spike here, just seems totally unreasonable to play and is like a 0.20 sr boost lol. something like 04:56:007 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - is more in line with the difficulty of the map I don't really see why it's unreasonable, it's definitely the most emphasized and strong part of the whole song, along with its ending. The second one doesn't have big jumps as the first one because it's not as strong as the first you mentioned. Imo it's pretty reasonable, even though it increases a lot the sr.
00:56:799 (2) - 00:57:644 (2) - 00:58:489 (2) - 00:59:334 (2) - and the snapping with this seems a little pointless, especially when you use the same visuals as 1/4 - i wasn't even aware it was 1/6 until opening the editor. could just snap to 1/4 for intuition, or at least make it visually apparent that the snapping is different Yeah, was going to change that anyway. I was really surprised that only a few people were confused by this, the big majority who played this really didn't think this was 1/4. But changed it since I didn't like it anyway.
but ye fun map ♥
waiting for gh's reply on Skylish's mod.
thanks a lot :3/Skylish wrote:
It seems no one made a final confirmation on Taiko based on the thread, since the latest change from ghm12 7 days ago.
[Taiko-tou]
> 00:15:883 - from this 0.8x section, 1/6s are hard to distiguish the actual incoming time visually. While in musical sense, 1/6 usage could be implemented right after the Kiai since the after Kiai session contains more layers. No need to make some early bursts in the introduction part imo unless strong rationale behind. I really, really, really feel like I should follow this 1/6. It's literally the only strong thing about this part. I'm going to change the sv to 0,9 in this part to help the reding, and do some 0,8 ~ 0,86 after 00:14:193 - just so it doesn't feel sudden. Also, changed 00:22:221 - from 0,9 ~ 1,0 to 0,95 ~ 1,0.
> 01:42:714 - shifting the SV green timing point to 01:42:080 - can give a small notice to players that: SVs are going to change due to different velocity of barlines. i honestly think it looks weird while playing since there's no note in the barline. also, the break itself gives the idea there'll be something different, at least it's what i've been doing in the map. because of those, i prefer not.
> 02:16:517 - you missed a note here? yes. i swear i didn't hear it until now.
> 02:37:432 - imitating the similar SV changes at 02:50:953 - , a 1.01x timing point should be put here. yeah, also put its volume to 76% (not like it changes much)
! 04:02:362 - redundant barline here, you should have a red timing point with barline omission set. Make sure add it in EVERY difficulty. fixed
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I am confused that no one checked the Taiko diff. before the whole set was approved, what a pity. ):
@Kuron-kun: tu arrumou a barline redundante de uma outra forma. como o Skylish disse, é pra adicionar uma em 04:02:362 - e ocultá-la, não esconder a de 04:02:364 -. Da forma que tu deixou, fica assim ingame
Adiciona a line certinha nas outras diffs só pra garantir que não tenha mais nenhum problema, se tiver dúvida é só copiar o point da minha diff. Also, ty por arrumar as downbeats, eu não fazia ideia de como arrumar lol
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Oh I see, learning everyday... Sorry to Dada for thinking he was wrong, Thanks...Eraser wrote:
jumpstream as in stream with occasional 1/4 jumps in it, not a stream with double notes like in maniaCra Dow wrote:
keep in mind that from what we've seen from when it was qualified, it had a low pass rate and only a handful of 98%+ scores
od8 isnt low for this kind of map with different rhythms being thrown at the player constantly
hp5 is probably so people dont die from missing a single jumpstream (jumpstreams only exist in mania and you are talking about the standard difficulty
Actually in standard mode context jumps make more sense than some ddr term in mania...
haha, it's no big dealCra Dow wrote:
Oh I see, learning everyday... Sorry to Dada for thinking he was wrong, Thanks...
Actually in standard mode context jumps make more sense than some ddr term in mania...
terms for different modes are confusing
Hop in to help a bit in setting those red timing points behind the spinner at 04:19:818 - :
> For 04:19:816 - and 04:21:932 - , the display of barlines are fine. But things go wrong a bit at 04:27:698 - , since the gap between it with 04:28:543 - is not a bar, which makes the latter look a bit weird.
If I remove all retarded (delayed) timings points, 04:26:364 - would be 1 bar of BPM=110 right before 04:28:543 - . I assume that it is the compromised barline display for showing a relationship linkage between the delayed vocal and main theme. Set a red timing point at 04:26:364 - BPM= 110.
> Then you will see 04:25:390 - this would make less sense if you adopt the above suggestion. Imo, the whole long vocal will be treated as a Fermata. 04:25:390 - will be an open ending without a proper 'calculable' timing value. Set a red timing point at 04:25:390 - BPM=what you were using right now (104), with Barline Omission set.
tl;dr, look at the BOLD WORDS
> For 04:19:816 - and 04:21:932 - , the display of barlines are fine. But things go wrong a bit at 04:27:698 - , since the gap between it with 04:28:543 - is not a bar, which makes the latter look a bit weird.
If I remove all retarded (delayed) timings points, 04:26:364 - would be 1 bar of BPM=110 right before 04:28:543 - . I assume that it is the compromised barline display for showing a relationship linkage between the delayed vocal and main theme. Set a red timing point at 04:26:364 - BPM= 110.
> Then you will see 04:25:390 - this would make less sense if you adopt the above suggestion. Imo, the whole long vocal will be treated as a Fermata. 04:25:390 - will be an open ending without a proper 'calculable' timing value. Set a red timing point at 04:25:390 - BPM=what you were using right now (104), with Barline Omission set.
tl;dr, look at the BOLD WORDS
slight change because of added bpm
https://puu.sh/ydPFt/9a952641f6.osu
https://puu.sh/ydPFt/9a952641f6.osu
Repairing~
there's 2 redline almost stacking each other. All of the diff
the volume is different (for std) though but whats the point of having them 2 ms apart?
edit: confirmed this.
for mania
normalization sv is 15 ms from the actual redline. was it intended?
its quite affecting the scroll speed
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@kuron help me put it back to the red line please
@kuron help me put it back to the red line please
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