IRC stuff
2017-06-13 19:23 IceKalt: Hey~ are you busy atm?
2017-06-13 19:24 TheMefisto: Hi, not really
2017-06-13 19:24 IceKalt: you free for irc?
2017-06-13 19:25 TheMefisto: Yep, I guess
2017-06-13 19:25 IceKalt: do you know this map
2017-06-13 19:25 IceKalt: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori]
2017-06-13 19:26 TheMefisto: I know song, but not map xd
2017-06-13 19:26 IceKalt: i let a few mutals testplay back then
2017-06-13 19:31 TheMefisto: Map looks pretty good
2017-06-13 19:31 IceKalt: you found nothing yet? :D
2017-06-13 19:32 IceKalt: its great to have the ability to map what you like to play ^^
2017-06-13 19:32 IceKalt: in this one
2017-06-13 19:33 IceKalt: thats the first map im really satisfied
2017-06-13 19:33 TheMefisto: Well, I just go through the map and try to understand your ideas and structure
2017-06-13 19:34 TheMefisto: I have few thing that I can mention here
2017-06-13 19:34 IceKalt: k
2017-06-13 19:36 TheMefisto: First of all, these sections 00:41:931 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-06-13 19:36 TheMefisto: 00:45:203 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 19:37 TheMefisto: It's pretty... Intense
2017-06-13 19:37 TheMefisto: especially 1/2 circles
2017-06-13 19:38 IceKalt: you mean its too hard to play for the intensity of the song?
2017-06-13 19:38 TheMefisto: Compared to pretty same moment 02:05:385 (1,2,3) -
2017-06-13 19:38 TheMefisto: I mean this too intense, song doesn't really provide this 00:43:022 (4,5,6) - rhythm
2017-06-13 19:39 IceKalt: well this is vocal mapping there
2017-06-13 19:39 IceKalt: but i guess
2017-06-13 19:39 TheMefisto: Maybe 1/2 sliders would be better
2017-06-13 19:39 TheMefisto: Like here 02:09:203 (2,3,4,5) -
2017-06-13 19:40 IceKalt: or a reverse?
2017-06-13 19:40 TheMefisto: It's follows vocal, but not that "intense" like circles
2017-06-13 19:40 TheMefisto: Yep, or reverse
2017-06-13 19:40 TheMefisto: You can choose what emphasize vocal better in this case
2017-06-13 19:41 TheMefisto: Both 1/2 slider and reverse slider should work good
2017-06-13 19:41 IceKalt: mh reverse fits better
2017-06-13 19:41 IceKalt: 02:06:203 (3) -
2017-06-13 19:41 IceKalt: a bit like here - only 1/2
2017-06-13 19:42 IceKalt: 00:46:567 (4) -
2017-06-13 19:42 IceKalt: i or more like 00:46:294 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 19:42 TheMefisto: 00:42:749 (3,4,5,6) - you can also try to circle + 1/1 slider
2017-06-13 19:43 IceKalt: i think im doing it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335337
2017-06-13 19:43 IceKalt: so i can emphasis the strang sound on 00:46:567 (4) -
2017-06-13 19:43 TheMefisto: Yep, make sense
2017-06-13 19:44 IceKalt: 00:50:112 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - would you then critizise that too?
2017-06-13 19:44 IceKalt: because i think thats ok
2017-06-13 19:45 TheMefisto: No, thats good
2017-06-13 19:45 TheMefisto: 00:59:112 (4,5,6) -
2017-06-13 19:46 TheMefisto: here is pretty small spacing, coz noone actually draw slider to the end
2017-06-13 19:46 TheMefisto: But you make jump to this one 00:58:840 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 19:47 TheMefisto: Imo, this two sliders 00:59:385 (5,6) - deserve a jump too
2017-06-13 19:47 TheMefisto: There is pretty strong vocal on the head of sliders
2017-06-13 19:47 IceKalt: mhh
2017-06-13 19:47 TheMefisto: And the same drum sound
2017-06-13 19:48 IceKalt: uhh
2017-06-13 19:49 IceKalt: i need to think about this more
2017-06-13 19:49 TheMefisto: Yep, just keep it in mind
2017-06-13 19:49 IceKalt: you mean like only for 00:59:112 (4,5,6) - or for 01:00:749 (4,5,6) -01:04:022 (5,6,7) - etc?
2017-06-13 19:50 TheMefisto: 01:00:749 (4,5,6) - this too
2017-06-13 19:50 TheMefisto: But 01:04:022 (5,6,7) - this feels fine
2017-06-13 19:50 IceKalt: the thing is that i like to introduce the pattern in the beginning - then play with it later
2017-06-13 19:50 TheMefisto: There is no vocal and pretty equal jumps
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: and this is like the main pattern i used for every refrain
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: i'll keep that in mind
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: but wont chnage it no
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: w
2017-06-13 19:51 TheMefisto: Oh, ok
2017-06-13 19:52 TheMefisto: Next thing is 01:10:294 (3) -
2017-06-13 19:52 TheMefisto: DS here a bit weird
2017-06-13 19:53 TheMefisto: This pretty similar to 01:09:340 (5,6,7) -
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: i agree with you
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: but its hard to fix xD
2017-06-13 19:53 TheMefisto: But on this circle 01:10:294 (3) - we also have vocal sound "HAAAAAA"
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: cause that would cause annoying overlap
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: s
2017-06-13 19:54 TheMefisto: You can stack this to end of slider 01:09:749 (1) -
2017-06-13 19:54 IceKalt: HAAAA xD
2017-06-13 19:54 TheMefisto: And then move this 01:10:431 (4) - a bit
2017-06-13 19:54 TheMefisto: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335414
2017-06-13 19:54 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335416
2017-06-13 19:54 IceKalt: i did it like this - didnt see your one yet
2017-06-13 19:55 IceKalt: uh
2017-06-13 19:55 IceKalt: i like both xD
2017-06-13 19:55 TheMefisto: :^)
2017-06-13 19:55 TheMefisto: Btw, about this 00:59:112 (4,5,6) -
2017-06-13 19:55 IceKalt: ahh yours is perfect
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: 01:12:203 (4,5,6) - just look at this
2017-06-13 19:56 IceKalt: cause of overlap with this 01:10:567 (5) -
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: Thats similar sections, but in first case you don't make any jump
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: But in second case you did
2017-06-13 19:56 IceKalt: huh
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: 01:12:203 (4,5) -
2017-06-13 19:56 IceKalt: ahh
2017-06-13 19:57 IceKalt: kicked wrong one xD
2017-06-13 19:57 IceKalt: thats what i meant with playing with pattern
2017-06-13 19:57 IceKalt: but i guess the DS difference is too high
2017-06-13 19:58 TheMefisto: Yep
2017-06-13 19:58 IceKalt: would you suggest changing positions 5+6
2017-06-13 19:58 IceKalt: ahh
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: i know why i did this
2017-06-13 19:59 TheMefisto: Well, that what you should do right now, I guess
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: :D
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: when i change 5+6 the ds would be too low
2017-06-13 19:59 TheMefisto: But you still can think about changing idea of this patterns
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: 01:12:749 (6,1) - would be too low too
2017-06-13 19:59 TheMefisto: Yeah
2017-06-13 20:00 TheMefisto: I mean, every moments like 00:59:112 (4,5,6) - , 01:00:749 (4,5,6) - , 01:12:203 (4,5,6) - should have one idea
2017-06-13 20:01 TheMefisto: If you wont change 1 and 2 for now, you should change 3 (swaping 5 and 6, yeah)
2017-06-13 20:02 TheMefisto: Or you can add jump between 00:59:112 (4,5) - , 01:00:749 (4,5) -
2017-06-13 20:02 TheMefisto: And then keep 01:12:203 (4,5,6) - as it is
2017-06-13 20:03 IceKalt: ill change the placement on 01:11:931 (3,4,5,6) - atm
2017-06-13 20:05 IceKalt: well i changed the compleat placement of 01:12:203 (4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2017-06-13 20:05 IceKalt: that should be ok now
2017-06-13 20:06 TheMefisto: Nice
2017-06-13 20:07 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335502 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335512
2017-06-13 20:08 TheMefisto: Next thing is 01:28:567 (1,2,3) - , I suggest reduse spacing here a bit, coz vocal starting to "fade" here (or something like "became weaker", idk)
2017-06-13 20:09 TheMefisto: Yep, should be fine
2017-06-13 20:11 IceKalt: done
2017-06-13 20:11 TheMefisto: I'm not sure about this 02:19:022 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:11 TheMefisto: I know what you want to do here, but
2017-06-13 20:11 IceKalt: how?
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: i mean i wouldnt have a suggesten
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: 00:57:203 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: wouldnt fit here
2017-06-13 20:12 TheMefisto: But it's different cases
2017-06-13 20:12 TheMefisto: 02:19:294 (2,3) - you made higher DS here to emphasize some clap sound on 02:19:567 (3) -
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: lol
2017-06-13 20:13 TheMefisto: I mean
2017-06-13 20:13 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335558
2017-06-13 20:13 IceKalt: i sould do sth like this?
2017-06-13 20:13 IceKalt: should?
2017-06-13 20:13 TheMefisto: Right
2017-06-13 20:13 TheMefisto: x)
2017-06-13 20:14 IceKalt: i guess that workes but ppl might get confused that this could be a 1/1 gap at first
2017-06-13 20:14 IceKalt: but idk that should work for the beginning
2017-06-13 20:15 TheMefisto: 02:20:112 (1) - Thats pretty strange, compare to these: 00:58:294 (1) - , 03:41:931 (1) -
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: theres a WWUUSHHHH
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: xD
2017-06-13 20:16 TheMefisto: You made 1/1 slider, then suddenly put 2/1 slider and then 1/1 slider again
2017-06-13 20:16 TheMefisto: Hm
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: until 02:20:658 -
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: 02:38:112 (1) - this?
2017-06-13 20:16 TheMefisto: Well, make sense, I guess
2017-06-13 20:17 IceKalt: this is to emphazise the really strong voice there
2017-06-13 20:17 TheMefisto: Hmmmmmmm
2017-06-13 20:17 IceKalt: well the 1st and 3rd refrain is like identical but this is different
2017-06-13 20:18 TheMefisto: You can same thing to this 01:17:931 (1) -
2017-06-13 20:18 TheMefisto: Extend to 01:18:340 -
2017-06-13 20:18 TheMefisto: Should fits vocal pretty nice
2017-06-13 20:19 IceKalt: well done
2017-06-13 20:20 TheMefisto: Anyway, this feels weird 02:21:749 (1,2) -
2017-06-13 20:20 TheMefisto: Maybe because you don't use same thing before
2017-06-13 20:21 TheMefisto: Also it ignore sound here 02:22:158 - and cover strong vocal with end of slider 02:22:294 -
2017-06-13 20:22 TheMefisto: Somethnig like "slider starts on weak sound and ends on strong"
2017-06-13 20:30 TheMefisto: I love bancho
2017-06-13 20:31 IceKalt: damn yea
2017-06-13 20:32 TheMefisto: I mentioned this moment 02:21:749 (1,2) -
2017-06-13 20:32 TheMefisto: And said that second slider has strong sound on the end and weaker sound on start
2017-06-13 20:32 TheMefisto: Vocal sound*, ye
2017-06-13 20:36 TheMefisto: Aaaaaaa
2017-06-13 20:37 IceKalt: :D
2017-06-13 20:37 IceKalt: thats kinda annoying xD
2017-06-13 20:38 TheMefisto: 02:21:749 (1,2) - hope you saw what I mention about this
2017-06-13 20:38 IceKalt: i already changed it xD
2017-06-13 20:38 TheMefisto: Also put NC on this sliders 02:46:294 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:39 TheMefisto: And maybe end this one 02:49:567 (3) - on red tick for consistency
2017-06-13 20:40 TheMefisto: You can add break between spinner and this circle 02:59:385 (1) - (Just for HP)
2017-06-13 20:40 TheMefisto: 03:36:885 (4,1) - And you can increase DS here, because of pretty strong sound
2017-06-13 20:41 TheMefisto: At least stronger than here 03:36:749 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:41 TheMefisto: So emphasize with jump would be good
2017-06-13 20:41 IceKalt: i agree with 03:36:749 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:41 IceKalt: but not with that slider sound - its different tbh
2017-06-13 20:41 IceKalt: "imo"
2017-06-13 20:42 TheMefisto: Okay
2017-06-13 20:42 IceKalt: welli keep it in mind when more ppl complain about this
2017-06-13 20:42 IceKalt: but added ncs
2017-06-13 20:42 TheMefisto: 03:55:840 (4,5,6) - and here is third variation of slider pattern
2017-06-13 20:43 TheMefisto: Jump between 03:56:112 (5,6) -
2017-06-13 20:43 IceKalt: changed
2017-06-13 20:44 TheMefisto: And last thing here 00:01:022 - xd
2017-06-13 20:49 TheMefisto: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/UdAR3oA.png
2017-06-13 20:49 TheMefisto: Conflicted volume
2017-06-13 20:49 TheMefisto: And that's all actually xd
2017-06-13 20:52 TheMefisto: I'll post log in the thread, if you don't mind
2017-06-13 20:53 IceKalt: lol
2017-06-13 20:53 IceKalt: who mind that
2017-06-13 20:53 TheMefisto: xd