Placeholder as well after mapper fixes the previous mods
14:01 Charlotte: hi fool
14:02 Nofool: hi
14:02 Charlotte: Can you help me?
14:04 Charlotte: busy now?
14:04 Nofool: help on what
14:04 Charlotte: give me nerf suggestion.
14:04 Charlotte: I need break...
14:04 Charlotte: quick check is no problem
14:07 Nofool: what map/difficulty
14:08 *Charlotte is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1427759 Karen, Koharu Meu, Harukawa Akari - Jounetsu Utopia]
14:08 Charlotte: Muzukashii
14:08 Charlotte: (Kiai time)
14:10 Nofool: 01:08:269 (120) - / - 01:09:581 (127) - / - 01:09:769 (129) - etc remove
14:13 Charlotte: hmm...
14:16 Nofool: https://puu.sh/xSa4U/fa8fb008b8.jpg
14:16 Nofool: https://puu.sh/xSa6E/9cfdeb7e66.jpg
14:16 Nofool: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9260643
14:17 Nofool: all kiai in 3 screens
14:17 Nofool: your notes but with removed 1/2 and 1/4
14:17 Charlotte: btw,Do you think difficult now?
14:18 Nofool: your difficulty now or with changes ?
14:19 Charlotte: now (still no change ver
14:19 Nofool: yes too difficult
14:19 Nofool: not only kiai
14:19 Nofool: too many 1/4
14:19 Charlotte: aha okay.I must nerf
14:20 Charlotte: Thanks Nofool.
14:20 Charlotte: You can post.I'll give kudosu.
14:20 Nofool: futsuu => muzu + 150 notes, muzu => oni + 110 notes
yuzu__rinrin wrote:
よばれてないけどきた、けど特に書くことなかったです。
[Kantan]
look fine.
ちょっとむずい気もしましたが、理にかなってる配置なので多分大丈夫かと思います
[Futsuu][Muzu]
- 00:23:831 (65) - move to 00:23:644 -
多分00:05:456 (16,17,18) - と同じ感じですよね。間違ってたら首つります- 01:14:269 (91) - d?
kkは01:15:769 (95,96) - オンリーで使いたくない?
正直ここはdkでもkdでもいいと思う[ゆーとぴあ]
- 01:22:144 (191,192,193,194) - dd-kk → ddd-k?
Doubletなんか違う気がする。。。
3-1の方が曲きれいに聞こえると思います。01:22:519 (194) - も単発で叩きたい感じの音(?)してますし- 01:25:144 (205,206,207,208) - kkk-d?
same as ^最近modding自信なくしてるので参考にだけなれば...
- 00:02:081 (11,12,13,14) - dk-kd → kd-dk
dk-kdのメリットが見つけられなかった... シンセの強さでkd-dkでいいかと思います。
13にちゃんとスネアあるけど14の高音には勝てないかなって感じ。
(00:05:081 (31,32,33,34) - だと31~32でシンセ上がってるからdk-kd(そのまま)でいいと思う)- 00:09:112 (64) - k
ここの声はfollowしていきたくない...?
00:09:112 (64,65) - でアア~とか聞こえるし- 00:15:019 (109,110) - ctrl+g
^ same as- 00:50:831 (77,78) - delete,
まぁシンセ取りしてるはずです。
vocalのスタッカートめっちゃ表現したいなーって思ったりしました。
(個人的には00:50:644 (76) - の後にnote置きたくない感じです)
この後にも同じパターンがありますけどしっかりvocal伸びてましたし、密度減らしとかにも使えそうです。
まだ404のOni更新されてないので省きました()
more eroge song~ good luck ></
bbj0920 wrote:
aaa
kantan
00:06:394 ~ 00:09:394 - / 00:09:394 ~ 00:12:394 - compare these two parts, they sound 99.9% identical and the density in the former part is a bit too low compared to the latter, whereas these two parts have the same density in Futsuu.
futsuu
00:23:456 (64,65,66) - maybe d d K to emphasize the rhythm well?
muzukashii
00:15:581 (71,72) - 00:16:331 (74,75) - these not being kkk feels a bit too much out of place tbh
01:15:394 (159,160,161) - why lowering density here all of a sudden??
01:18:675 (174) - 3/4 doesn't feel very necessary here considering other 3/4s were almost all vocals which are quite emphasize-able
404
00:22:894 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - 강조를 위하신 거라면 ㄱㅊ하다고 생각하지만 그래도 여기 모노 들어가긴 좀 단조로운 느낌이에요 대략 kkddkkk 어떠심
00:56:644 (114,115,116,117,118,119) - 다른 패턴들에 비해서 단조로운 편인데 좀 색채를 입혀서 kdk ddk 어떠신가요
utopia
01:31:144 (361,362,363,364,365,366,367) - what about dkdkkdk, pitch shift on 01:31:331 (363,364) - sounds quite apparent
stu00608 wrote:
遅くなっちゃってすみませんqwqq
拳でmodしました!(パンッ
[Muzukashii][404's Oni]
00:02:769 00:05:769 00:23:769 - これ必要ないと思うqwq del ,
00:38:269 add a d
00:43:894 → k
00:44:269 add a d
00:47:644 連打または風船に変わる kだけはちょっと物足りないかな
01:07:331 (117,118,119) → dkk
01:15:956 (163) - d ?[Taiko Utopia]
add something from 00:00:394 to 00:06:394 , like
00:00:769 add k , 00:02:269 add d ...etc
also add something from 00:18:394 to 00:19:894 and make 00:19:894 to 00:23:456 more easier ;
also 00:24:394 to 00:36:394
that's allいい譜面です!! ランクドまでがんばってね!
00:01:894 and 00:04:894 → d
00:03:112 add d and 00:06:112 声がなさそうのでdel .
00:26:644 del and 00:26:456 00:26:831 add d . 00:32:644 ここも同じ
01:07:331 (191,192,193) → dkk
01:13:331 → d
01:08:081 (195,196,197) ddk→dkd , also 01:09:581 (206,207,208) and 01:11:081 (217,218,219) and 01:14:081 (238,239,240) .
01:09:956 (209,210,211,212,213,214) - 元はdk_kddk → kd_dkkd
01:11:456 (220,221) dk → kd
Thanks for modsNofool wrote:
log + advices (Muzukashii)14:01 Charlotte: hi fool
14:02 Nofool: hi
14:02 Charlotte: Can you help me?
14:04 Charlotte: busy now?
14:04 Nofool: help on what
14:04 Charlotte: give me nerf suggestion.
14:04 Charlotte: I need break...
14:04 Charlotte: quick check is no problem
14:07 Nofool: what map/difficulty
14:08 *Charlotte is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1427759 Karen, Koharu Meu, Harukawa Akari - Jounetsu Utopia]
14:08 Charlotte: Muzukashii
14:08 Charlotte: (Kiai time)
14:10 Nofool: 01:08:269 (120) - / - 01:09:581 (127) - / - 01:09:769 (129) - etc remove
14:13 Charlotte: hmm...
14:16 Nofool: https://puu.sh/xSa4U/fa8fb008b8.jpg
14:16 Nofool: https://puu.sh/xSa6E/9cfdeb7e66.jpg
14:16 Nofool: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9260643
14:17 Nofool: all kiai in 3 screens
14:17 Nofool: your notes but with removed 1/2 and 1/4
14:17 Charlotte: btw,Do you think difficult now?
14:18 Nofool: your difficulty now or with changes ?
14:19 Charlotte: now (still no change ver
14:19 Nofool: yes too difficult
14:19 Nofool: not only kiai
14:19 Nofool: too many 1/4
14:19 Charlotte: aha okay.I must nerf
14:20 Charlotte: Thanks Nofool.
14:20 Charlotte: You can post.I'll give kudosu.
14:20 Nofool: futsuu => muzu + 150 notes, muzu => oni + 110 notes
- 00:02:769 (12,13) - 1/3 can be deleted for simplicity because 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/3 on the same part is complicated
- 00:05:769 (27,28) - ^
- 00:23:769 (109) - ^
- 00:04:800 (22) - remove for consistency with - 00:01:706 (7,8) -
- 00:09:206 (44) - remove for consistency with - 00:06:926 - break
- 00:15:206 (71) - remove ^ and change - 00:15:394 (72,73,74) - to d kkk for consistency with - 00:09:394 (45,46,47,48) -
- 00:10:144 (49,50,51,52,53) - change to ddkdk 1/2, consistency with - 00:16:144 (74,75,76,77,78) -
- 00:21:206 (96) - remove for consistency with - 00:18:612 - break
- 00:38:644 (12) - move to - 00:38:456 - to respect vocal?
- 00:44:644 (32) - ^
- 00:54:019 (65) - remove for break + vocal extend
- 01:22:144 (191,192,193,194) - ddd k instead ? no reason for duplets
- 01:25:144 (205,206,207,208) - kkk d ^
Ni-Sokkususu wrote:
01:13:706 (228,229) - d K
>오키도키도도키!
01:31:800 (354) - add k?
>샬럿님이 모든난이도에 안넣어서 눈치껏 안넣었어요 저 잘했쬬ㅎㅎ
고칠게없네 ㅆㅅㅌㅊ;;;
>얍얍 아리가또
どころで。。。
なんか。。。その花びらにくちづけを<<が見える。。。。
[R] wrote:
yo
[Oni]
00:12:019 (57,58,59) - change kdk or kkk, high pitch in 00:12:019 -
>good =v= ddd fixed and 00:12:394 (60) - k fixed
00:22:612 - | 00:23:362 - delete, this to make 1/3 easier to read
>00:22:612 (123) - deleted
00:36:769 (18,19) - invert ? there has kick in 00:36:769 -
>fixed
00:48:394 - change D, its more fit
>fixed
01:13:050 - delete, it feels weird (to make 01:13:144 - sound more clear too)
>ok~
01:25:331 - add note
01:22:237 (286,287) - delete, for a consistent space with 01:25:331 - | 01:28:331 -
>both keep here cause wannt put difference with last 5 stream.
01:27:956 - change don, to emphasize kat forward
>fixed
that's all from me
good luck
bbj0920 wrote:
aaa
404
00:22:894 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - 강조를 위하신 거라면 ㄱㅊ하다고 생각하지만 그래도 여기 모노 들어가긴 좀 단조로운 느낌이에요 대략 kkddkkk 어떠심
>여기앞부분 스트림들이 충분히 어려워서 연속 스네어소리에 맞춰 단조로운 7스트림을 해보려했습니다만 이렇게 들어보니 조금 걸리네요. 일단 킾해두고 계속 생각해볼께요!
00:56:644 (114,115,116,117,118,119) - 다른 패턴들에 비해서 단조로운 편인데 좀 색채를 입혀서 kdk ddk 어떠신가요
>굿!
stu00608 wrote:
遅くなっちゃってすみませんqwqq
拳でmodしました!(パンッ
[404's Oni]いい譜面です!! ランクドまでがんばってね!
add something from 00:00:394 to 00:06:394 , like
00:00:769 add k , 00:02:269 add d ...etc
>wanna put only drum sound in first part, keep now
also add something from 00:18:394 to 00:19:894 and make 00:19:894 to 00:23:456 more easier ;
>fixed 00:19:894 this stream more easy.
also 00:24:394 to 00:36:394
>add smth lol
that's all
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Thanks for mods.Greenshell wrote:
ok, here I am as requested:thonking:General:
Add the guest mapper's name to the tags.
Is it intended that you used the same SV changes for all diffs? I think you could nerf the SV on the low diffs, or remove them entirely. I deleted Kantan & Futsuu SV
Why does the Kiai stop on 01:19:519 - ? Moving it to 01:19:894 - would make more sense as the stanza ends there on the major downbeat, even if it doesn't affect gameplay at all. fixed.
[Kantan]
Looks good to me already. The only thing I'd consider to change is 00:48:394 (13) - this note to don finish, as a new stanza is indicated. But this is a suggestion for all difficulties. fixed (all diff)
[Futsuu]
00:07:894 (22) - and 00:13:894 (38) - these notes make the whole stanza a bit too kat-heavy for my taste, changing both to dons wouldn't hurt, moreso to provide a better contrast to 00:10:894 (30) - and 00:16:894 (46) - where the pitch of the sound you're following is significantly higher. fixed.
01:07:331 - to show progression throughout the spread, you can add one or two notes ahead of the Kiai. fixed.
[Muzukashii]
00:36:394 - to 00:48:394 - honestly, I can't agree with how you skipped the strong vocals on 00:38:456 - and 00:44:456 - just to force 2/1 breaks into this stanza. Referring to the new RC, a break of at least 3/2 every 16/1 or 20/1 measure is highly recommended, which will still be given if you add notes on mentioned timestamps. Concerning density with the rest of the map, it shouldn't be an issue really. hmm...I prefer vocal + inst.sono change.
[I don't speak japanese diffInner Oni]
00:48:019 (58,59,60,61) - I highly recommend to add green lines to smoothen the SV transition, felt pretty awkward on sightread.
00:53:081 (89,90,91,92,93) - Try something like this? Imo, this pattern captures the vocals more nicely than the current one. (actually, my intention behind this suggestion is to emphasize 00:53:644 as a kat, since the vocal is quite strong there and doing that would result in a whole different pattern, so it is completely optional.)
00:56:175 (110) - consider changing this to kat, as the pitch of vocals / synth is the same on this tick compared to 00:56:269 (111) -.
Inner Oni All fixed.
Sorry for the short mod, there's barely anything that could be improved imo
I hope this was helpful regardless.
Good luck!
Gabe wrote:
Alright, let's do this!
Oni
- 00:12:019 (57,58,59) - and 00:18:019 (96,97,98) - represents the same sounds, however, you are emphasizing it differently by making the first notes only dons and the last notes only kats. It would be nice if you'd make it the same for the sake of a better consistency.
>change 00:17:644 (94,95,96,97,98) - d k ddd and 00:11:456 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59) - ddkkk ddd, so that make some various pattern at first part and also keep consistency with triple pattern.- 00:52:706 (91) - This note doesn't seem to emphasize the vocals perfectly, I'd suggest you to replace it with a kat. Also, looking previously, you were trying to follow most of the vocals with kat notes, I guess you could do the same thing here
>kat fixed!- 01:12:394 (209,210,211,212,213,214) - The 'kat-stream' seems out of place, mostly when the vocalist's note doesn't get long at this part, but only a short moment before it. In this case, I suggest you to switch them by CTRL+G and delete the note 01:13:144 (215) - , which would feel out of place.
>sounds awesome! 'ctrl g'ed there and delete after triple circle following vocal for emphasize it more.
Call me back~
Greenshell wrote:
Time zones increase the delay by 24 hours or more (´・◡・`) (no kds)
[404's Oni]
00:11:456 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59) - Why are you switching emphasis all off a sudden? Apart from this pattern, you've been following the same sound (idk how to describe it) consequently, while you mapped something different for these notes, causing weird sounding and flow. I'd suggest dkddk or ddkdk for the 5-plet, leaving the ddd triplet as it is. If you insist on keeping the emphasis as it is, change the ddd triplet to ddk to match with the sound you're actually following and to keep a smooth flow.
>ddkkk ddd fixed
00:19:894 (100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - This rhythm choice seems very questionable to me, as the actual climax of this stanza begins at 00:21:394 - , whereas you've put the hardest part right before, but not within the buildup provided by the song, therefore making it quite unbalanced. I highly recommend re-structuring this short part, unless you can give good reasoning to it.
00:23:456 (126) - As the amount of kats feels pretty heavy, consider changing this to don, also to make the contrast between 00:23:269 (125,126) - clear in terms of pitch.
>good. nerf first part and make some difference from 00:21:394 - .
00:54:394 (102) - This could be a finish, to keep the finisher usage each 16/1 from 00:36:394 - to the end of this stanza consistent.
>so weak and almost can't listened finisher sound, than 00:36:394 - you refered . wanna keep here.
01:12:956 (214) - Consider changing this to don to match the decreasing vocal pitch and also to maintain flow.
>fixed
01:19:144 (252,253,254,255,256) - I can see you tried to capture the held notes by the vocals, but the result doesn't sound and play that nicely, hence I suggest changing it to kkddk, both to maintain flow (as mentioned before), and to express both vocals and the electronic sound in a nice way.
>fixed like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9284596
01:24:769 (288) - This gives the player a smoother feeling as a don, too. Alternatively, you can change 01:24:394 (285,286,287) - to kkd to express vocals nicely too, but I suppose you'd prefer the first suggestion to avoid repetitive patterns.
>fix 01:24:769 (285,286,287,288) - k kkk
The ending seems a bit over the top but that's a pretty subjective thing, looks still reasonable.
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That's about it from my side, I guess. I probably would've mapped it differently from the core, but I can see your intentions. I hope this helped~
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Thanks for modsGabe wrote:
Alright, let's do this!
KantanFutsuu
- Ok!
Muzukashii
- Ok!
Inner Oni
- 01:07:331 (114,115,116,117) - I'd suggest you to switch (114) and (115) to do like you've done to 01:13:331 (142,143,144,145) - hmm...nope for various pattern & kdkd is not bad.
- 01:13:894 (145) - Would require a finish hitsound as well. fixed.
Call me back~
- 01:07:331 (189,190,191,192) - As the pitch is higher on (190) and (191), I suggest you to switch both (189) and (190) to make it dkkd. You did something similar on 01:13:331 (232,233,234,235) - . same as Muzu
- 01:13:894 (235) - Would require a finish hitsound to emphasize the cymbal sound. fixed.
Thanks for modsKin wrote:
why the hell the official website use 2 differents metadata lol
http://lovematic.net/koipia/special_include -> 華憐 小春めう 春河あかり
http://lovematic.net/koipia/special_vocal.html -> 華憐 春河あかり 小春めう
I got already metadata suggstion.
I think, both are ok.
anyway.
In futsuu, maybe better delete this 00:12:019 (34) - ; this note doesnt exist in muzu hmm...muzu is need 1/1 break.but,Futsuu is already have 1/1 break.so no change.
feel free to accept or deny, just call me back for the heart \o