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himmel feat. YooSanHyakurei - Seraphim [Taiko]

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JUDYDANNY
Hello, from M4M Queue.
"xfrac"
[Oni]
  1. 00:38:234 - remove? feels not good emphasized for next finish.
  2. 00:41:149 - remove finish? there're not appearance as a big accent following the instrumental.
  3. 00:57:263 (113,114,115) - kkd?
    • 00:54:863 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - →kdkdk-dkd , 00:56:577 (110,111,112,113,114,115) - ddk-kkd
  4. 01:01:549 (136,137) - kd? to following the synthesizer pitch.(*-1)
  5. 01:02:663 - recommend to remove, I think using the 5plet is early(*-2)
  6. 01:07:891 (180,181,182,183,184) - change to (k-ddk)?

    • *-2 5plet seems early, over power imo.
      * pitch seems up, kat-begining flow seems not well followed the instrumental. """ Try to use don-begining flow *-3 """ .
  7. 01:12:691 - d? kat seems too over.
  8. about01:15:263 (235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246) - ddk-k-kdddk-kkk
    1. 01:15:263 (235,236,237,238) - change to(k-ddk), to refer there 01:15:091 (234,235) - (*-1) and, to make a consistent with 01:11:663 (207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216) - 3-1-5 plet flow.
    2. 01:16:292 (244,245,246) - change to (d-k or k-k)? seems over plet 1/4 triple.
  9. 01:17:491 - d, kat seems too over.
  10. 01:17:749 - same.
  11. 01:18:177 - same.
  12. 02:21:777 - d, kat seems too over.
  13. 02:22:463 (361,362) - k-d? refer to there *-3
  14. 02:33:691 - move to 02:33:520 - ? it seems better for variation.
  15. 02:26:235 (393) - d? linked with before kdddk (and, make a conistenc. 02:18:863 - 1st kiai flow kdkkd-kdkkddk)
  16. 02:28:206 - remove, 02:28:463 (409,410) - change to k-d?
    • * 02:28:463 - seems better to same color for drums with 02:28:120 - , 02:28:291 - ,and seems better to different color for vocal with 02:28:634 - .
      *02:28:206 -feels over *-2
  17. 02:35:406 - not d?
  18. 02:39:177 - remove , same as 2:28:206.
  19. 02:40:034 - k? to follow the vocal slar.
  20. 02:40:377 - add, drums still sounds.
  21. 02:40:634 - , 02:40:891 - , 02:43:291 (535,536) - , 02:43:806 - , should remove. Its too long as after kiai ._.
  22. 02:51:606 - , 02:51:863 - same.
  23. 02:55:377 - change to k? distortion guitar sounds cut up.
    :!: 03:01:034 (659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668) - seems weird the decreasing SV, Should keep 1.0.
    • 1.0→0.9 from 03:02:406 - , 0.9→0.8 from 03:04:463 - seems better.
  24. About 04:30:863 - , 04:41:834 - , 04:42:520 - ,and 04:52:806 - , k plays better as personal opinion.

"Dark"
[Oni]
  1. About 01:41:491 (107,108,109,110,111,112) - k-d-k-kk-k.Suddenly vocal lost... ._.
    1. 01:42:177 - move to 1/2 left, and change to k-d.It should make a consistency (with 01:35:149 (85,86) - , 01:37:891 (93,94) - , 01:40:634 (104,105) - ).
    2. 01:42:349 - , 01:42:863 - add d to follow the vocal.
  2. 01:52:463 - remove finish? to make a conistent with 01:46:977 - ,and 01:49:720 - .
  3. 02:10:634 (281,282) - change to k-d or k-k?
    • * Its not same 1st vocal pitch(02:06:177 - ,02:07:549 - ,02:08:920 - ) with 3rd vocal pitch(02:06:863 - , 02:08:234 - , 02:09:606 - ). It seems better to make a variation imo.
  4. 03:39:777 (98,99) - k-k or k-d? same.
  5. 02:12:863 (292,293) - kd? to follow the snare.
  6. 03:41:834 (107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - dkddkdk-kkd? same as above.
  7. 03:44:749 (126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - change to kkd-k-k-ddkkd?
    • * About 03:44:749 (126,127,128) - , snare sounds, and bass sounds variated.
      * About 03:45:263 - , snare sounds,
      * About 03:45:434 (131,132,133,134,135) - , it seems much better than use kat-begining flow.
  8. 04:09:263 (323,324) - remove the green, 04:09:263 (323,324) - change SV[1.1], 04:09:949 - add green SV[1.0] ? seems weird the decreasing SV.
  9. 04:12:263 - , 04:14:063 - ,04:14:320 - , 04:17:749 - removing seems better to emphasize for calm.
  10. 04:28:120 - change to k? pitch up :3
    :!: 04:59:149 (677,678) - remove, 04:58:634 (672,673,674,675) - remove the green, 04:58:977 - change SV [1.1], 04:59:149 - add SV [1.0] .
    • *seems very weird decreasing sv... ._.
  11. 05:04:463 - cymbal sounds, should add k.
That's all for now!
Try to collect more +2~3mods. I'll be back after that.
Good luck~(¦3[___]
Topic Starter
Aisha

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello, from M4M Queue.
o/ Juda
"xfrac"
[Oni]
  1. 00:38:234 - remove? feels not good emphasized for next finish.
  2. 00:41:149 - remove finish? there're not appearance as a big accent following the instrumental.
    done both
  3. 00:57:263 (113,114,115) - kkd?
    • 00:54:863 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - →kdkdk-dkd , 00:56:577 (110,111,112,113,114,115) - ddk-kkd
    I would like to hold an extense from 00:56:577 (110,111,112) - so making a increase build up to 00:57:949 (116,118,119) - kdk / 00:58:634 (120,122,123) - kkd
  4. 01:01:549 (136,137) - kd? to following the synthesizer pitch.(*-1)
  5. 01:02:663 - recommend to remove, I think using the 5plet is early(*-2)
  6. 01:07:891 (180,181,182,183,184) - change to (k-ddk)?

    • *-2 5plet seems early, over power imo.
      * pitch seems up, kat-begining flow seems not well followed the instrumental. """ Try to use don-begining flow *-3 """ .
    Yeah I can agree with you on these points, fixed~
  7. 01:12:691 - d? kat seems too over.
    fixed
  8. about01:15:263 (235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246) - ddk-k-kdddk-kkk
    1. 01:15:263 (235,236,237,238) - change to(k-ddk), to refer there 01:15:091 (234,235) - (*-1) and, to make a consistent with 01:11:663 (207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216) - 3-1-5 plet flow.
      I think it's not neccesary to be consistent cause both patterns sound different (specially the electronic sound, that I'm following)
    2. 01:16:292 (244,245,246) - change to (d-k or k-k)? seems over plet 1/4 triple.
    Both sounds great, stucking at d k
  9. 01:17:491 - d, kat seems too over.
  10. 01:17:749 - same.
  11. 01:18:177 - same.
  12. 02:21:777 - d, kat seems too over.
    Applied these
  13. 02:22:463 (361,362) - k-d? refer to there *-3
    I think it's mostly about variation so kdd sound really fine. Most important notes are kxd
  14. 02:33:691 - move to 02:33:520 - ? it seems better for variation.
    Yup, I like variation
  15. 02:26:235 (393) - d? linked with before kdddk (and, make a conistenc. 02:18:863 - 1st kiai flow kdkkd-kdkkddk)
    It's already a don D:
  16. 02:28:206 - remove, 02:28:463 (409,410) - change to k-d?
    02:28:034 - removed this instead.
    • * 02:28:463 - seems better to same color for drums with 02:28:120 - , 02:28:291 - ,and seems better to different color for vocal with 02:28:634 - .
      *02:28:206 -feels over *-2
      I made other changes here, should be fine imo
  17. 02:35:406 - not d?
    This is kat D:
  18. 02:39:177 - remove , same as 2:28:206.
    Removed 02:39:006 - for consistency
  19. 02:40:034 - k? to follow the vocal slar.
    Hmmm even both sounds good, kat here is great too
  20. 02:40:377 - add, drums still sounds.
    True, added d
  21. 02:40:634 - , 02:40:891 - , 02:43:291 (535,536) - , 02:43:806 - , should remove. Its too long as after kiai ._.
  22. 02:51:606 - , 02:51:863 - same.
    I made other changes here, should be fine aswell
  23. 02:55:377 - change to k? distortion guitar sounds cut up.
    Done
    :!: 03:01:034 (659,660,661,662,663,664,665,666,667,668) - seems weird the decreasing SV, Should keep 1.0.
    • 1.0→0.9 from 03:02:406 - , 0.9→0.8 from 03:04:463 - seems better.
      Second comment about it, changing them :p
  24. About 04:30:863 - , 04:41:834 - , 04:42:520 - ,and 04:52:806 - , k plays better as personal opinion.
    I like the current drum-follow effect, they're not common patterns so I like them :3

That's all for now!
Try to collect more +2~3mods. I'll be back after that.
Good luck~(¦3[___]
Thank you for the mod! Waiting for Vortex now :')
Aurele
hi! from #modreqs

Collab Oni
*The difficulty name is not bad, but it would be really nice if you'd change it for something that would follow the theme of the song and the song's title. I'd suggest maybe "Celestial" or "Angelic", since the "Seraphim" is a celestial creature from the #bible.
  1. 00:07:891 (6) - Shouldn't this note be moved to 00:07:549 - if you would follow 00:04:806 (3) - ?
  2. 00:19:549 (22,23) - In my opinion, I'd rather switch these two notes as the note (23) should be more high pitched than (22) and if you switch both of them, the note (23) will follow these two notes: 00:20:406 (26,27) -, which both lands on red ticks.
  3. 00:33:434 (14) - I suggest you to change this note for a don instead, as it would follow your consistency starting at the note 00:27:434 (1) -
  4. 02:22:463 (359) - I'd suggest you to replace this don for a kat to emphasize the vocals which you were following with the previous kats.
  5. 02:24:006 (372) - At this point, I feel like there is a lack of intonation. In the song, we can totally hear a drum sound that is similar to where a 'finisher' would be. In this case, I suggest you to add a finish hitsound to this note to emphasize the sound coming from this part.
  6. 02:29:491 (417) - Similar to what I said on 02:24:006 (372) -, there is a loud sound here as well. To keep the consistency from my previous suggestion, I'm suggesting you to add a finish hitsound to this note too. Also, I'd recommend you to delete this note (02:29:577 (418) - ) to make sure the note (417) is greatly emphasized.
  7. 02:42:349 (527,528,529) - I believe you should follow the same idea as 02:40:806 (515,516,517,518) - , but having the last kat moved further away. In this case, take these notes and reverse them with CTRL+G, making it kdd instead. It will also give more intonation with the guitar to these notes: 02:42:691 (530,531,532,533) -
  8. 03:58:291 (229) - This note should be the prolongation of the previous note, which means it would be better if you'd change this note for a kat instead, as it will follow the same 'intonation', if we can say.
  9. 04:53:491 (634) - Looking back at 04:42:520 (548) - , you don't have a kat note and surprisingly, you were following the sounds which you greatly emphasized with 04:41:149 (541,542,543,544,545,546,547) - and 04:52:120 (627,628,629,630,631,632,633) - . If we compare both notes now, one has a simple don, while the other has a kat with a finish hitsound. In this case, to make sure you're keeping a nice consistency, I'd suggest you change the kat from the second note for a don. I would also recommend you to KEEP the finish hitsound of the second note as well, as there is a sound which you can emphasize the finish with, which there is nothing to emphasize on the first note.
Great map! :3c
DarkVortex
Fixed pretty much everything from JUDYDANNY's and Gabe's mods I hope it's fine for you to answer your mods like this lol
Topic Starter
Aisha

Gabe wrote:

hi! from #modreqs
!! I thought that channel was just for spam your map :3 thank you for coming
Collab Oni
*The difficulty name is not bad, but it would be really nice if you'd change it for something that would follow the theme of the song and the song's title. I'd suggest maybe "Celestial" or "Angelic", since the "Seraphim" is a celestial creature from the #bible.
I was thinking about that. Gotta need to discuss with Vortex. Just stucked at it cause I don't want to rest credits to him xD
  1. 00:07:891 (6) - Shouldn't this note be moved to 00:07:549 - if you would follow 00:04:806 (3) - ?
    I would pref to move 00:07:720 - according to your same reason :p
  2. 00:19:549 (22,23) - In my opinion, I'd rather switch these two notes as the note (23) should be more high pitched than (22) and if you switch both of them, the note (23) will follow these two notes: 00:20:406 (26,27) -, which both lands on red ticks.
    Yeah sounds pretty great, fixed~
  3. 00:33:434 (14) - I suggest you to change this note for a don instead, as it would follow your consistency starting at the note 00:27:434 (1) -
    I think 00:33:434 (14) - makes already a good difference between 00:32:920 - and 00:33:949 - pitches. If I make id D d d it will get strange and wont follow pitches that good :c
  4. 02:22:463 (359) - I'd suggest you to replace this don for a kat to emphasize the vocals which you were following with the previous kats.
    Applied
  5. 02:24:006 (372) - At this point, I feel like there is a lack of intonation. In the song, we can totally hear a drum sound that is similar to where a 'finisher' would be. In this case, I suggest you to add a finish hitsound to this note to emphasize the sound coming from this part.
  6. 02:29:491 (417) - Similar to what I said on 02:24:006 (372) -, there is a loud sound here as well. To keep the consistency from my previous suggestion, I'm suggesting you to add a finish hitsound to this note too. Also, I'd recommend you to delete this note (02:29:577 (418) - ) to make sure the note (417) is greatly emphasized.
    I can agree somehow with your suggestion, but I think using only one big note in the Kiai makes it looks weird. I think it's not neccesary and should be good like it is :3. Also I think it gives more liberty to make other patterns than a single note on these :p (variation stuff)
  7. 02:42:349 (527,528,529) - I believe you should follow the same idea as 02:40:806 (515,516,517,518) - , but having the last kat moved further away. In
    this case, take these notes and reverse them with CTRL+G, making it kdd instead. It will also give more intonation with the guitar to these notes: 02:42:691 (530,531,532,533) -
    I only applied 02:42:691 (531,532) - ctrl+g on these cause I think current breaks are nice :p
Great map! :3c
ty :3
Thank you so much for the mod Gabe :3~
Updated mine + vortex parts
Aurele
:3c
Topic Starter
Aisha

Gabe wrote:

:3c
Greatt! c:
JUDYDANNY
once again.
[xfrac]
  1. 00:18:863 (18,19) - boring dkd chain.. and broken the linked with 00:21:777 (29,30,31,32) - kkdd.. should return the ddkk.
  2. again, 00:57:263 (113,114,115) - kkd? its not same sound from before ddk.
  3. 01:15:263 (235,236,237,238) - k-ddk? really werid rhythm there. I dont think its not worried.
  4. 02:27:949 - k? 02:27:777 (404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414) - too much don there, flow seems very weird.
  5. 03:04:463 - move the green to 03:03:777 - . the white bar seems weird because of be different speed.
[Dark]
  1. 01:41:149 - add k, if you wont change the flow there. 01:41:491 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
  2. 03:27:520 - remove ...or move to 03:29:234 - ? 5plet seems over power a bit.
  3. 05:04:463 - should add k
DarkVortex

JUDYDANNY wrote:

once again.

[Dark]
  1. 01:41:149 - add k, if you wont change the flow there. 01:41:491 (1,2,3,4,5) - . Somehow I don't really think a k would fit there...
  2. 03:27:520 - remove ...or move to 03:29:234 - ? 5plet seems over power a bit. Good point, fixed that
  3. 05:04:463 - should add k Here's no distinctive sound for a k and i think leaving that last beat open sounds pretty good to finish the map with as introduces the echo nicely imo
Thanks again for modding! :)
Topic Starter
Aisha

JUDYDANNY wrote:

once again.
[xfrac]
  1. 00:18:863 (18,19) - boring dkd chain.. and broken the linked with 00:21:777 (29,30,31,32) - kkdd.. should return the ddkk.
    ddkk sounds great, applied
  2. again, 00:57:263 (113,114,115) - kkd? its not same sound from before ddk.
    I think 00:56:920 (112,115) - are great emphasized at using kat on them and should be enough imo :p
  3. 01:15:263 (235,236,237,238) - k-ddk? really werid rhythm there. I dont think its not worried.
    Okay, fixing this time
  4. 02:27:949 - k? 02:27:777 (404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414) - too much don there, flow seems very weird.
    Done
  5. 03:04:463 - move the green to 03:03:777 - . the white bar seems weird because of be different speed.
    Fixed
Thank you juda :D. Also added 'Collab' to tags
JUDYDANNY
OK, ready go!
For saving, Rebubbled
Topic Starter
Aisha

JUDYDANNY wrote:

OK, ready go!
For saving, Rebubbled
Thank you so much for the support juda!
Aurele
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DarkVortex
Wew, thank you guys to make this possible! :)
Nishizumi
grats bruh
crim
gratz!! >w<
yuzu__rinrin
gratz~ :)
Charlotte
gratz :D
Surono
cook me spicy fried rice pls gratz sir fraco
Ozu
woowow congratz xfrac and dark gj =v=b
Topic Starter
Aisha
yay, thank you all <3
Battle
Would you like to explain why it's YooSanHyakurei and not Yoohimemiya?

I didn't really see a source around here and I found http://shop.attackthemusic.com/album/frequency-blitz-2 as metadata so ya
Topic Starter
Aisha

Battle wrote:

Would you like to explain why it's YooSanHyakurei and not Yoohimemiya?

I didn't really see a source around here and I found http://shop.attackthemusic.com/album/frequency-blitz-2 as metadata so ya
Quote from STD set:

Lasse
current should be fine p/6257673
Battle
alright thanks for the confirmation w
Doyak
I still wonder if 'himmel' (lowercase 'h') is ever confirmed. All the references I could find use 'Himmel' (even on the fanzhen's post). The screenshot doesn't show if the artist was saying "the whole metadata is correct" or it's just about "Yoohimemiya" part.
Topic Starter
Aisha

Doyak wrote:

I still wonder if 'himmel' (lowercase 'h') is ever confirmed. All the references I could find use 'Himmel' (even on the fanzhen's post). The screenshot doesn't show if the artist was saying "the whole metadata is correct" or it's just about "Yoohimemiya" part.
As I could find on https://soundcloud.com/himmeltengoku he usses to refer himself (he uses himmel on every social network). Anyways I wrote him to confirm it.

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