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Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars

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Kiddo-Kun
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on December-26-10 at 5:32:58 PM

Artist: Hatsune Miku
Title: Parade of Liars
Source: supercell
Tags: Ryo Vocaloid Krisom Yunacat Astom
BPM: 200
Filesize: 6472kb
Play Time: 03:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Astom's Normal (3.85 stars, 323 notes)
  2. Easy (1.55 stars, 176 notes)
  3. Hard (4.49 stars, 348 notes)
  4. Krisom's Insane (5 stars, 606 notes)
  5. Yunacat's Taiko (4.78 stars, 1185 notes)
Download: Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Special Thanks To:

Krisom - For diff/skin :3
Yunacat - For Taiko Diff :3
Astom - For Normal Diff :3
NatsumeRin - For making the hitsounds on Krisom's diff much better :3
lovhin456 - For helping me with the SB :3

First SB I've ever made, so it's kinda ugly =/
Krisom
Yo! I'll give you some tips.

First,I think source should be ryo. Supercell can go on tags. Nvm, Look this way baby and Love is war use ryo as source, but when the first love ends and black rock shooter use supercell, so do what you want but do not forget to add ryo somewhere too.
Also, vocaloid in tags.
Also, I'm pretty sure BPM is 200, not 100 (this song is quite fast), so doubling the BPM and halving sliderspeed would be <3
Also, consider using this BG instead.
I'll work on a guest insane this weekend. Gogogo parade of liars~
Colin Hou
use supercell plz Orz
Krisom
Ok, better late than never.
It's quite easy for an Insane if you ask me, it's hard to FC due to some specific patterns (and the guitar solo is designed to kill >w<), but meh-ish.

It comes with some skin elements and it also uses a different comboclour than yours so that the approach circles are easier to see, though if you wanna change them back, I won't mind

Download: 21926 Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars.rar

Random fast mod, preview time is not set, and you must add vocaloid to tags. (also, add me~)
Remember to add the preview time in my diff too
supercell is accurate and changing it would be nice :P
Hard-
00:25:190 (1,2,3) - Finishes that wont fit at the end of sliders.
00:28:190 (2) - remove the clap from the start
00:30:290 (2,3) - Finish abuse again
00:32:390 (2,3) - ^
00:34:790 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:44:090 (1,2,3) - Move 1 one grid right and 3 one grid left for symmetry
00:47:090 (1) - I can't say I like this spinner
00:53:090 (4) - Add the new combo here and remove it from 00:54:290 (1) -
00:55:490 (1) - Consider adding a pre-spinner circle
00:55:490 (1) - Either extend to 00:57:590 - or shorten to 00:56:690 -
01:00:290 (6) - use other sliderspeed for the slowdown? 0.65 or 0.75 works fine, anything in between is ok too
01:06:290 (4) - Finish at the repeat?
01:17:090 - Kiai time should end here
01:40:490 (5) - Finish at the end?
01:44:690 (1) - I can't say I like this spinner
01:47:390 (4) - Finish at the end (like in your previous similar patterns?)
01:57:290 (6) - ^
02:02:690 (1) - Similar to 00:55:490. Pre note and extend or shorten.
02:13:490 (4) - Finish at the repeat?
02:20:090 (6) - New combo
02:21:590 (1) - If anything, start this spinner at 02:21:890 -, also, I dont think the finish suits it, maybe silence or normal finish
02:31:490 (1) - Finsih
02:38:690 (1) - I personally like normal hitfinish here mroe
02:50:690 - Add a note with a finish?
02:58:490 (9,1,2,3) - Finish spam! Only (3)'s end finish fits the song imo.
03:03:890 (3) - Remove finish
03:06:890 (4) - iKill the repeat, just let it end at 03:07:490 -
03:10:340 (1,2,3) - Finish 'em all (as in, add hitsounds)
I can't say I like the last kiai hitsounds but meh >w<

Star!
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Done~
Thanks Krisom :3
KIA
^o^
Yunacat
Finished Taiko mode, for now. Its such a long song... didn't really notice till I finished it and went back for a final play, then went to look at the time lol... x: There's a few parts I'm uncertain about, but I'm too tired to bother going over them atm. Maybe when I have some more time...

*tosses a star into the air*

Download: Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars (Kiddo-Kun) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Yay~
Thanks Yuna <3
I just need to wait for Crimmiskye's Someones >w< diff :D
I'll add it when I get to my PC.
Yunacat
I updated mine! O:

Fixed the audio (just realized I left it too low from when I was trying to make it) and changed the BPM to get the slider velocity to read properly. Hope that's ok (the BPM is only half of what you're using on the others...)

Download: Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars (Kiddo-Kun) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu
James2250
Really have nothing to complain about

All the maps are clean and well organized~ No major problems anywhere

Leaves star here for now~
Yunacat
Well I updated mine again. I felt like it was a little over-mapped so I edited it in some places so it wouldn't feel that way.

Download: Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars (Kiddo-Kun) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu
Sander-Don
ok, so on the taiko diff, i'd say to change the BPM to 200.00 and Slider verlocity to 1.40, its seemed waaay too slow, also star~
ouranhshc
ssoooo, why is krisom in the source
Sander-Don
^this
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
I took it out~
Sander-Don
xD ♥
Yunacat

Sander-Don wrote:

ok, so on the taiko diff, i'd say to change the BPM to 200.00 and Slider verlocity to 1.40, its seemed waaay too slow, also star~
I changed the BPM to 100 because 200 felt too fast! @.@
Sander-Don
it was already 100 yuna ._. trust me, that is way too slow for a taiko map, i can barely read the notes o.o
Yunacat
Ok ok fine.. ;o; I kinda see what you're saying, but at the same time one feels too slow and on feels too fast... :/ Oh well...

Changed the BPM back to 200 instead of 100 and changed the slider rate back to 1.4

Download: Hatsune Miku - Parade of Liars (Kiddo-Kun) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
O_O Look at those notes fly by.

Updated~
Lilac
Yeah, just set a preview time on the Taiko difficulty.
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Done
Zelos
Hard:

00:44:090 (1,2,3) - the spacing between these are not of equalness.

01:16:490 (2) - make this slider more pretty and even.

01:46:490 (1,2,3) - spacing spacing spacing spacing spacing spacing

02:31:490 (1) - move down one grid point.

Krisom Insane

00:29:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing change ewwww

02:41:165 (1) - my suggestion is you start this on the red tick instead of the blue tick. this could cost someone a whole 1000 bonus if started so early.

did not see any other issues with any other diffs.

star
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Fixed my things
Thanks Zelos ^^
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Moved to pending~
Added Astoms diff~
Let's do this!
NatsumeRin
lovhin456
Great maps ~~ I'll try to find a BG >w<

S T A R !!
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Kudosu for helping me with the SB in IRC :3
Doomsday
Hi :)

  1. That offset sounds a little early. Try adding +10 to it (I got offset: 9,900)
  2. Are the combo colours for Krisom's Insane supposed to be different? that one has 4 multicoloured ones, while the other diffs have 3 shades of red. Might wanna make those the same.
  3. Maybe make that background 4:3? (changing it to 1024x768, 800x600 resolution or something). Since the storyboard pulse is, it would look better if the background was in the same ratio as the SB.
[EASY]

It works as an easy, even though the rhythms are pretty boring, it must be said. It does work for an easy though, I guess.

[ASTOM'S NORMAL]

Nothing really bugged me, but I'm not keen on how for most of the song, you had constant beats with no little breaks (I guess that was for the hitsounds). It almost felt a bit overmapped. The way you did the last chorus was nice though, with the sliders. Not sure about the constant beats though. Nothing seriously wrong though.

[HARD]

Like Normal, felt alright. Played alright, but it had a lot of streams of constant beats with no little gaps, and like Normal, felt a bit overmapped (and again, probably for the hitsounds).

[KRISOM'S INSANE]

Fun stuff. Looks good, but just one tiny thing:

03:48:440 (1) - Ehh, I dunno, but even for an ending, a spinner this short doesn't feel too great. I think a slider would work better.

[YUNACAT'S TAIKO]

I really like this one. Nice to see a taiko map that doesn't feel completely random. Can't criticise this one much.

Overall, it's a solid map. oddly the harder difficulties feel like the better made ones, while the easier ones feel a bit ropey (It's usually the other way around). There isn't anything really wrong though. It's a solid map all round :)
Roddie
Hi

General:
  1. I'm pretty sure the background size has to be 1024 x 768. Try and fix that if you can.
Easy:
  1. 01:15:890 (4)-Add a finish on the end of that slider.
  2. 01:48:890 (5)-Add a new combo?
Astom's Normal:
  1. 02:14:690 (1)-I would think its better to remove that clap and replacing it with a finish instead, don't you think?
Hard:
  1. 01:02:690 (5)-Add a finish on the beginning of that slider???
  2. 03:46:040 (1)-Add a finish.
Krisom's Insane:
Nicely done.

Nice work. 8-)

Good luck getting this ranked.

Star~
lovhin456
Hey ~ I found 2 BGs you could use, maybe you'll like them >w<
I tried to find the original BG the one Shirow Miwa did for this song but it can only be found on the Vocaloid Visual Works which is a collection of Shirow Miwa art ~

Sallad4ever
Ohai :)

General
- I see fade.png on the folder but I didn't see it used anywhere on the osb, what is it for?

Astom's Normal
00:27:590 (1,2,3) - there's a lot stress in the music here so I strongly suggest to add finish or custom clap on these notes (I prefer clap :3)
00:38:990 (1) - this note after the spinner is unexpected, I think that because of the lyric that start 1/1 after this so I expectantly miss this, I'll doubt you'll change this because of the hitsound pattern though :P
02:35:990 (x) - add a circle with clap?
03:06:890 (x) - ^

Hard
02:56:690 (3) - I think this could be arrange so it follow the vocal more closely, I think, maybe....
03:15:890 (1) - ^ or maybe follow the drum

Krisom's Insane
01:03:590 (3) - eh....could you make it more smoother? this curve looks weird
02:33:140 (8) - cause of the SV this this feels like an ordinary curve slider, just saying
02:35:090 (5) - another one, don't really likes the curves or maybe semi-elbow slider?
03:48:440 (1) - I disagree with doom
I guess I just nitpick on the sliders, oh well it's not a big problem

Solid map, I doubt there will be any major change so...
STAR~
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Thanks Sallad, Doomsday, and Roddie :D
ignorethis
BG is pulsing too fast :o pulsing once in every stanza is enough

<Hard>
01:45:290 (6) - move left a bit

others are cool 8-) don't kd me

[edit] bubbled
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Woops didn't read that last part >w<
Thanks though ^^
Garven
As per your request:

[General]
Apply epilepsy warnings please.
I find that SliderBorder: 150,150,150 or so works well with that approach circle. Add it to the [Colours] section in each .osu if you wish to change it.

[All Difficulties]
03:29:090 - Maybe do a re-kiai here?

[Easy]
00:12:890 (4,5) - Not a fan of stacks in easies, but you use them quite a bit. Just sayin'
00:58:490 (1) - Kind of soon after a spinner for an easy. Eh.
01:13:490 (1,2,3) - This stack is pushing it for an easy to me.
02:05:690 (1) - Soon after spinner
03:07:640 (1) - Maybe have this end with a normal-hitnormal?
03:29:690 (1) - You know what I'll say, hehe

[Astom's Normal]
Settings feel a little high for a normal. They are almost right with the Hard difficulty.
So many tiny overlaps. ;_;
00:22:190 (6,7) - These aren't stacked properly
00:36:590 (2,4) - Forget the claps?
00:53:090 (1,2,3,4) - These would sound cooler with some soft whistles to accent the guitar or something (applies to later iterations)
02:35:390 (4) - No hitsounds?
02:38:990 (2) - This finish intended?
03:43:490 (1) - Kind of expected a finish on the start as well
03:45:890 (3) - Feels kind of weird since there's one more powerful beat that you're missing. Might feel better to map through that last spinner, but up to you.

[Hard]
01:00:290 (6) - Why is this the only slider in all of the chorus' that has a slown-down slider?
01:14:090 (2) - Not centered on the 1 slider properly, if you care about that.
01:16:490 (2) - ^
Felt kind of stagnant in the rhythm department, but oh well.

[Krisom's Insane]
End your kiai ww
01:58:340 (2) - Not quite centered on the slider.

Edit:

Did some irc modding concerning the easy:

00:55:490 (1) - Such an awkward spot to end it. Maybe just map through it with a couple of long sliders? There doesn't seem to be a good spot to end it without it being rather short or strange feeling with missing that strong cymbal crash.
02:02:690 (1) - ^

Looks good now~

Re-bubbled!

:U
Doomsday
Didn't fix my timing fix, but Lybydose seems to think it's fine as is. I'll trust him with that.

Ranked!
Krisom
finally :D!
Way to get ranks when I'm not here to fix what they say :U
w/e, gratz kiddo >w<!
Shiro
I didn't even have time to mod it. :V
lepidopodus
Yeahy, I enjoyed the Taiko map quite much.
(Unfortunatly I'm suffering from lag due to some connection problem so can't FC yet :/)
Lunah_old
Title should be Hatsune Miku feat. supercell D:
Colin Hou

Lunah wrote:

Title should be Hatsune Miku feat. supercell D:
or supercell feat. Hatsune Miku 8-)
Rin Matashime
hello. my name is Rin and i have done this before so im improving^^
ABD007
good taiko map ! love it
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