Luis Fonsi - Despacito ft. Daddy Yankee [CatchTheBeat|Taiko| · forum

Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2017-10-08T08:07:41+00:00

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Peter

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Peter 2017-10-08T12:53:46+00:00

Gj.

Shunao

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Joined February 2016

Shunao 2017-10-08T14:53:25+00:00

Gratzz!!~

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

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Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-10-08T19:19:40+00:00

I had hoped I'd never have to listen to this song of my own volition, but knowing the song since it freaking sounds everywhere I noticed there's some stuff that sounds off during gameplay. Some additional suggestions are included.

[Ascendance's Rain]

01:06:006 (2) - Why doesn't this (and other similar sliders) have hitsounds? It could have a whistle or something, to emphasize the vocals.
03:42:916 (2,3) - This is quite unexpected, I'd reduce the distance to it a bit. In addition, 03:43:758 (4) - shifts the emphasis to the guitar quite randomly, so I'd suggest adding a circle to follow the 'lli' at 03:43:814 - instead.
03:44:713 (2) - While there is a guitar sound where you have snapped this, there is another one at 03:44:601 - (and accompanied by other instruments), so I suggest making a single slider starting on 03:44:601 - .

[Spec's Overdose]

00:39:880 (4,5,6) - Four single guitar sounds can be heard, therefore this is wrongly snapped. Four 1/12 circles is more accurate.
00:43:418 (4) - I think this is supposed to be following the vocals, since the following circles skip an important guitar sound. In that case, this is a bit late since the accent from the 'soy' can be heard a few ms before the guitar sound at 00:43:418 - . I think the previous 1/12 sounds better.
00:45:441 (1,2,3,4) - If you want to snap these to the vocals, IMO they sound more accurate snapped like the image at the end.
00:49:318 (6,1) - I know there's a guitar sound in the white tick, but since the previous objects place the emphasis on the vocals, I had expected this to be a single slider covering the vocal 'pulso' instead.
01:24:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I have several issues with this pattern. First, the HDashes on 01:24:040 (1,2,3,4) - are placed in a totally opposite way as the previous pattern (between (1,2) instead of (2,3)), despite the sounds being nearly the same. Secondly, while the sounds supporting 01:24:713 (5,6)'s existance exist. they are nowhere that strong to deserve such strong HDashes. I suggest you move 01:24:882 (6) - closer to the previous object. For instance, putting 01:24:882 (6) - on x:192 keeps both 1/8 HDashes while making them much more fitting in terms of strength.
02:24:882 (2,3) - I don't think the vocals are that defined to have them as separate objects; I'd put them as a single slider.
02:51:680 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same issue as mentioned for the first Kiai.
03:43:590 (3) - If this slider is intended to follow vocals, it should end earlier. I think the 1/12 snap before it sounds slightly more accurate, but I'm not sure if it's the best snapping.
03:44:095 (1) - Not sure what this is following. If the ending is following vocals, I think it should end on 03:44:264 - (where the 'do' vocals starts). If it's following the guitar, it should end on the blue tick at 03:44:432 - .

Last edited by ZiRoX 2017-10-08T19:32:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Topic Starter

Monstrata 2017-10-08T19:23:13+00:00

We just had a 2 page discussion about the snaps. No change.

Natsu

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Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-10-08T19:45:32+00:00

hey despacito with the wrong reply, there are no fruits on naruto hue

Dea ex machina

530 posts

Joined January 2014

Dea ex machina 2017-10-09T04:18:16+00:00

so uh

sb / nc error. the final kiai in the Insane and Spec's Overdose (second last kiai for spec's diff) storyboard color flashes are not the same as the combo colors on the objects they're highlighting.

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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Topic Starter

Monstrata 2017-10-09T04:36:24+00:00

damn. i guess im qualifying 5 maps on october 10th lol

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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Joined August 2013

pishifat 2017-10-09T05:14:47+00:00

as req

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

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Ascendance 2017-10-09T06:13:26+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
I had hoped I'd never have to listen to this song of my own volition, but knowing the song since it freaking sounds everywhere I noticed there's some stuff that sounds off during gameplay. Some additional suggestions are included.

[Ascendance's Rain]
01:06:006 (2) - Why doesn't this (and other similar sliders) have hitsounds? It could have a whistle or something, to emphasize the vocals. Ok I tried with whistles, let me know how it is
03:42:916 (2,3) - This is quite unexpected, I'd reduce the distance to it a bit. In addition, 03:43:758 (4) - shifts the emphasis to the guitar quite randomly, so I'd suggest adding a circle to follow the 'lli' at 03:43:814 - instead. You could argue that it's still following the vocal there and then being taken over at 03:44:095 (1) - by the dominant guitar, but I fixed the first part. Basically, I don't really wanna overcomplicate snaps.
03:44:713 (2) - While there is a guitar sound where you have snapped this, there is another one at 03:44:601 - (and accompanied by other instruments), so I suggest making a single slider starting on 03:44:601 - . I prefer keeping it simple with just the most pronounced ones here

Thank you!

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Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-10-09T09:11:33+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
damn. i guess im qualifying 5 maps on october 10th lol

at least u can beat doormat's record :^)

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-10-09T11:07:51+00:00

Ctb :weary: : ok_hand:

Maxylan

242 posts

Joined May 2014

Maxylan 2017-10-09T13:22:19+00:00

It's odd to see a mapset from Monstrata jump back and fourth from qualified like this :thinking:

Also, if I may give my two cents on the issue regarding the snaps. If alot of BN's/QAT's unanimously agree that it's a problem and you're forced to have a 2 page discussion regarding it, then maybe it's better to listen to them no matter how "wrong" you think they are.

Spectator

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,780 posts

Joined February 2011

Spectator 2017-10-09T15:16:45+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
I had hoped I'd never have to listen to this song of my own volition, but knowing the song since it freaking sounds everywhere I noticed there's some stuff that sounds off during gameplay. Some additional suggestions are included.

[Spec's Overdose]
00:39:880 (4,5,6) - Four single guitar sounds can be heard, therefore this is wrongly snapped. Four 1/12 circles is more accurate. fixed
00:43:418 (4) - I think this is supposed to be following the vocals, since the following circles skip an important guitar sound. In that case, this is a bit late since the accent from the 'soy' can be heard a few ms before the guitar sound at 00:43:418 - . I think the previous 1/12 sounds better. okay
00:45:441 (1,2,3,4) - If you want to snap these to the vocals, IMO they sound more accurate snapped like the image at the end.
also fixed!
00:49:318 (6,1) - I know there's a guitar sound in the white tick, but since the previous objects place the emphasis on the vocals, I had expected this to be a single slider covering the vocal 'pulso' instead. yeah but I think it'd still better if it follows the guitar so gonna keep this one
01:24:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I have several issues with this pattern. First, the HDashes on 01:24:040 (1,2,3,4) - are placed in a totally opposite way as the previous pattern (between (1,2) instead of (2,3)), despite the sounds being nearly the same. Secondly, while the sounds supporting 01:24:713 (5,6)'s existance exist. they are nowhere that strong to deserve such strong HDashes. I suggest you move 01:24:882 (6) - closer to the previous object. For instance, putting 01:24:882 (6) - on x:192 keeps both 1/8 HDashes while making them much more fitting in terms of strength. current patten seems totally fine to me for following reasons, first, the 01:24:040 (1,2,3,4) - are supposed to differently mapped with the previous ones as it's meant to be more emphasizing, second the distance between 01:24:713 (5,6) - are pretty much deserved imo even if that can be just my opinion
02:24:882 (2,3) - I don't think the vocals are that defined to have them as separate objects; I'd put them as a single slider. okie, fixed
02:51:680 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same issue as mentioned for the first Kiai. same
03:43:590 (3) - If this slider is intended to follow vocals, it should end earlier. I think the 1/12 snap before it sounds slightly more accurate, but I'm not sure if it's the best snapping. fixed
03:44:095 (1) - Not sure what this is following. If the ending is following vocals, I think it should end on 03:44:264 - (where the 'do' vocals starts). If it's following the guitar, it should end on the blue tick at 03:44:432 - . o nice, fixed

thanks for the mod!

also fixed the issue upon Storyboard & combo colors

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Voli

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Joined April 2013

Voli 2017-10-09T16:34:37+00:00

dunno if this was mentioned somewhere already but i always notice when playing that this object 00:43:418 (7) - is delayed. to follow the vocals properly it should be snapped like this instead.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Topic Starter

Monstrata 2017-10-09T19:30:46+00:00

/facepalm

Monstrata

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Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Monstrata 2017-10-09T19:37:48+00:00

Okay, so catch will follow the 1/12 and other snaps since that game mode can allow for such snapping without really impairing gameplay/rhythm. Standard will continue to use rhythm simplification and I've adjusted my rhythms on Insane and Gangsta to map to the instruments for those vocal sections instead (actually everyone else pretty much did the same, or at least mapped both layers for that section).

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-10-09T19:39:45+00:00

-wwwww wrote:
so uh

sb / nc error. the final kiai in the Insane and Spec's Overdose (second last kiai for spec's diff) storyboard color flashes are not the same as the combo colors on the objects they're highlighting.

: (

Thanks. Fixed all.

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-10-09T19:58:11+00:00

Voli wrote:
dunno if this was mentioned somewhere already but i always notice when playing that this object 00:43:418 (7) - is delayed. to follow the vocals properly it should be snapped like this instead.

Yes it was mentioned. First note is a bit delayed yes, but it lands on the instrument, and the other two notes are accurate. We're using rhythm simplification here to 1/3

MBomb

MBomb 2017-10-10T21:10:17+00:00

Still plays fine with awkward snaps so guess it's fine to push. Hopefully this is the last time I have to be called back here though, looked through a lot stricter this time to make sure important stuff was applied.

Bubbled <3

ZekeyHache

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Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-11T06:56:58+00:00

ezek wrote:
me waiting for despacito to get qualified

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-10-11T14:00:10+00:00

ezek wrote:
me waiting for despacito to get qualified

Terton

134 posts

Joined August 2015

Terton 2017-10-11T17:33:34+00:00

ezek wrote:
me waiting for despacito to get qualified

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

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Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-10-11T20:48:56+00:00

ezek wrote:
me waiting for despacito to get qualified

ronaldonater

39 posts

Joined February 2016

ronaldonater 2017-10-11T23:08:18+00:00

ezek wrote:
ezek wrote:
me waiting for despacito to get qualified

mancuso_JM_

osu! Alumni

4,615 posts

Joined October 2010

mancuso_JM_ 2017-10-11T23:14:02+00:00

Just stop with this spam and wait until this map gets qualified once again.

Thanks!

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-11T23:18:06+00:00

mancuso_JM_ wrote:
Just stop with this spam and wait until this map gets qualified once again.

Thanks!

lol I was about to say that cuz last time people started quoting me the fun ended with deleted posts, so yeah, enough is enough people, better leave it like this than ending up without memories 👀
I'm glad mancuso thinks well and decided to leave these few posts alive~

Doormat

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Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-10-11T23:34:56+00:00

02:54:039 (1) - flashes orange on overdose when it's a yellow combo

fix it and i'll requalify

Spectator

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Spectator 2017-10-12T00:09:43+00:00

Doormat wrote:
02:54:039 (1) - flashes orange on overdose when it's a yellow combo

fix it and i'll requalify

fixed, thank you!

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Doormat

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Doormat 2017-10-12T03:45:53+00:00

confirmed fixes to the storyboard, we also identified similar storyboard issues in the Easy, Advanced, and Insane difficulties and have addressed them.

let's get this going again-

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ZekeyHache

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Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-12T03:46:11+00:00

woo

Nifty

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined September 2014

Nifty 2017-10-12T05:14:49+00:00

Taiko is still utter bullshit, but I don't want to listen to this song any more than I have to to be able to point specifics out and wallmod.

Those completely unnecessary finishers and overmapping, definitely a case of "it's not overmapped, it's undersonged!" In which case every single possible rhythm can be accompanied by doublets and 1/6 to raise sr on any song ever. Improvisation is not viable on this song, as the song itself has no possibility of actual musical improvisation that would accompany the track appropriately. It honestly feels like the Inner is mapped to a drumstep remix of Despacito, because the rhythms match those I would use in a Camellia map.

Lumenite-

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Lumenite- 2017-10-12T16:02:20+00:00

Nifty wrote:
Taiko is still utter bullshit, but I don't want to listen to this song any more than I have to to be able to point specifics out and wallmod.

Those completely unnecessary finishers and overmapping, definitely a case of "it's not overmapped, it's undersonged!" In which case every single possible rhythm can be accompanied by doublets and 1/6 to raise sr on any song ever. Improvisation is not viable on this song, as the song itself has no possibility of actual musical improvisation that would accompany the track appropriately. It honestly feels like the Inner is mapped to a drumstep remix of Despacito, because the rhythms match those I would use in a Camellia map.

language is a bit strong, no need for such language here
but yes i agree with the overall message here

Skeletroll

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Joined January 2017

Skeletroll 2017-10-12T22:22:52+00:00

There seems to be a bug with a map. I loaded the insane difficulty but it was as easy as normal.

Ethan

226 posts

Joined September 2015

Ethan 2017-10-16T20:23:03+00:00

Incoming most played map because of all the white girls that play osu! once for this song

-celly-

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-celly- 2017-10-18T15:35:21+00:00

i love how well made the beatmaps are

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2017-10-18T18:01:57+00:00

Hi, I would like to raise my concerns regarding the taiko difficulties of this set.

[Chromozzy's Oni]

01:22:691 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - these finishes sound rather out of context in my opinion as the music there is rather calm and the pace is just similar to the previous kiai. Mapping all of them as big notes would be overwhelming and result in over-emphasis. If you want to emphasize the exceptionally strong vocal, 01:24:545 (60) - is the most reasonable one to be mapped with a big note. Here is an example: (cursor at 01:23:702 - while 63 being K)
From 02:08:197 to 02:18:983 - as this section is relatively calmer compared to the rest of the song, you may shorten the length of 1/4 (actually 1/2) patterns. This would also fit the note density of the same section in Muzukashii well by doing so. 02:10:051 (140) - 02:12:747 (152) - 02:14:433 (160) - 02:15:444 (165) and 02:17:129 (173) - could be deleted to achieve such a purpose.
02:51:680 (147,148,149) - similar to 01:22:691 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - , finish could be removed.
03:11:736 (152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166) - this one is optional. You may consider slightly simplifying this 1/8 (actually 1/4) pattern as the background instruments are far less intense than that.
From 03:25:050 to 03:29:432 - the finish spam here is quite awkward and does not merge well with the upcoming session due to over-emphasis. What you did in Muzukashii is about right, so I would suggest a pattern reform like this to reduce the use of big notes: (cursor at 03:27:073 - while captured odds are big notes except 40-46 being DkD KdK d)

The same applies to Muzukashii when indicated. I am willing to provide additional modding subsequently to follow through.

OzzyOzrock

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OzzyOzrock 2017-10-18T18:32:11+00:00

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Hi, I would like to raise my concerns regarding the taiko difficulties of this set.

[Chromozzy's Oni]
01:22:691 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - these finishes sound rather out of context in my opinion as the music there is rather calm and the pace is just similar to the previous kiai. Mapping all of them as big notes would be overwhelming and result in over-emphasis. If you want to emphasize the exceptionally strong vocal, 01:24:545 (60) - is the most reasonable one to be mapped with a big note. Here is an example: (cursor at 01:23:702 - while 63 being K)
Call this a bad reason/habit, but the exaggerated vocal is what brings me to map this in a sort of finisher-heavy "TnT-authentic" way. Along with that, I like it this way to differentiate the two kinds of vocals.

From 02:08:197 to 02:18:983 - as this section is relatively calmer compared to the rest of the song, you may shorten the length of 1/4 (actually 1/2) patterns. This would also fit the note density of the same section in Muzukashii well by doing so. 02:10:051 (140) - 02:12:747 (152) - 02:14:433 (160) - 02:15:444 (165) and 02:17:129 (173) - could be deleted to achieve such a purpose.
While your suggestion is nice, I didn't want this part of the song to be too boring. The patterns you suggest almost get simpler than the part with only k notes, and I don't think they're of the same intensity. With longer patterns, I can improvise in a way that, in my opinion, fits the cadence of the song.

02:51:680 (147,148,149) - similar to 01:22:691 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - , finish could be removed.
Same as before!

03:11:736 (152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166) - this one is optional. You may consider slightly simplifying this 1/8 (actually 1/4) pattern as the background instruments are far less intense than that.
I like the idea of "final chorus leads into quiet" being a bit dramatic in its transition. I didn't want make the stream too complex for reasons like the ones you described, and I think that's enough.

From 03:25:050 to 03:29:432 - the finish spam here is quite awkward and does not merge well with the upcoming session due to over-emphasis. What you did in Muzukashii is about right, so I would suggest a pattern reform like this to reduce the use of big notes: (cursor at 03:27:073 - while captured odds are big notes except 40-46 being DkD KdK d)
Again, "blah im inspired by authentic practice" might sound iffy, but using finishers this way to provide a very distinct variety in the structure of the notes (instead of some simple patterns or something) also allows me to give it much more emphasis to a rather convivial-sounding part of the song that I'd find unsatisfying to see mapped "normally".

Thanks for the mod Nardo :<

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Monstrata 2017-10-18T19:00:34+00:00

I thought the finish usage was quite satisfying to hit, and complemented the song quite well. What I really aimed for with my difficulties was a mapping style that would be fun to play, not just a typical, bland but objectively "fine" map for a typical song. This clearly isn't a typical song, it will get a lot of plays, so I'm glad the Taiko difficulties reflected my philosophy as well as they did.

I think Ozzy sums up the concerns very well. I would agree to them, and I know the other Taiko BN's associated with this set (there are 5 of us total, and a 6th if we ever needed more opinions) would all agree.

Aurele

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Aurele 2017-10-19T06:39:42+00:00

and.. ranked

nice job!

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