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KASAI HARCORES - Cycle Hit [Taiko]

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Midnaait
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domingo, 8 de octubre de 2017 at 18:41:03

Artist: KASAI HARCORES
Title: Cycle Hit
Tags: DJ Genki Genkianamei かめりあ Kamelcamellia Cametek Camellia C-Show EP2 Episode of pro Allstars Baseball 葛西西高校 Nishi High School M3-39 Marathon
BPM: 175
Filesize: 7831kb
Play Time: 05:12
Difficulties Available:
  1. Strike (7,65 stars, 2022 notes)
Download: KASAI HARCORES - Cycle Hit
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KASAI HARCORES - Cycle Hit






Thanks!
Worminators (For letting me use his metadata and BG :^)
_yu68
Mekelemembe
yassu-
Axer
zigizigiefe
Chromoxx
Chocola_2287
Surono
zigizigiefe
pp hit :thonk:
Topic Starter
Midnaait

zigizigiefe wrote:

pp hit :thonk:
[yes]
yassu-
M4M

General
・HP5 -> 4~4.5?

Strike
・01:49:977 (655,656,657,658,659) - swap? 01:50:063 - follow

・01:54:949 - change to slider for 1/6 sounds

・01:20:577 - change to K 01:20:577 (408,410) - follow and 00:25:720 (7,8,9) - pattern

・04:05:149 (7,9) - change to K ^

・00:08:063 - add d there is sound

・02:14:235 - add d ^

・nice pp map lol

good luck :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Axer
mini mod
02:49:720 (147,148,149,150,151) - Podrías hacer lo que hiciste en 01:38:577 -
tipo así

y hacerlos dobles para que suenen más lindo y ademas porque son sonidos similares.
02:55:206 (187,188,189,190,191) - ^
03:00:692 (227,228,229,230,231) - ^
03:02:063 (235) - aca D
beautiful trabajo con los streams de 1/4 y 1/6 uwu
kasai PP
Topic Starter
Midnaait

yassu- wrote:

M4M

General
・HP5 -> 4~4.5? Changed to 4.5

Strike
・01:49:977 (655,656,657,658,659) - swap? 01:50:063 - follow

・01:54:949 - change to slider for 1/6 sounds I'll keep, because a slider there wouldn't fit too well after a note

・01:20:577 - change to K 01:20:577 (408,410) - follow and 00:25:720 (7,8,9) - pattern

・04:05:149 (7,9) - change to K ^

・00:08:063 - add d there is sound

・02:14:235 - add d ^ Didn't add a don here to make some dinstiction between the patterns and the melody that follows

・nice pp map lol

good luck :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Axer wrote:

mini mod
02:49:720 (147,148,149,150,151) - Podrías hacer lo que hiciste en 01:38:577 -
tipo así

y hacerlos dobles para que suenen más lindo y ademas porque son sonidos similares.
02:55:206 (187,188,189,190,191) - ^
03:00:692 (227,228,229,230,231) - ^ Va para las 3 sugerencias, los sonidos ahi son mucho menos potentes que en donde tengo los 1/8 01:38:577 - Y ademas seria un poco overkill lol
03:02:063 (235) - aca D :^)
beautiful trabajo con los streams de 1/4 y 1/6 uwu
kasai PP
Thanks :)
zigizigiefe
KASAI vs THICC KOISHI
  1. 00:02:749 (9,10,11) - You should have shown the difference between pitches on these two parts imo. 00:05:149 (19,20,21,22,23) - has way higher pitch.
    So maybe change into d k k k d or smth like that. If you changed, adjust 00:16:120 (78,79,80,81,82) - according to the change you did.
  2. 00:22:977 - How about higher SV so ninja notes could represent cheer sounds better :^)
  3. 01:17:835 - Ninja notes are cool, u know :^
  4. 01:36:949 (538,539) - This sound isn't same as 01:35:577 (525,526) -, so maybe change 01:36:692 (535,536,537,538,539) - to kkkkd as you did at 04:45:949 (384,385,386,387,388) - to show the difference. 01:42:435 (589,590) - for consistency.
  5. 01:44:063 (604,605,606) - You missed 1/6 sound?
  6. 02:22:292 (105,106,107,108,109) - Same suggestion as first.
  7. 02:22:292 (105,106,107,108,109) - What do u think about ninjas?
  8. 02:42:863 - Huh? I didn't hear any buzz sound, so maybe change a bit? rip pepes btw
  9. 03:37:720 - Unlike the part I pointed out above, you could use 1/6 notes here so you'll have followed more accurate way.
  10. 03:44:577 (124,125,126,127) - Same suggestion as first.
  11. 03:55:549 (188,189,190,191,192) - it's me mario
  12. 04:02:406 - K A S A I + Ninja = ?
  13. 04:57:177 (481,482) - I suggest CTRL+G to have consistency with 04:45:949 (384,385,386,387,388) -.
taco needs more memes btw
Topic Starter
Midnaait

zigizigiefe wrote:

KASAI vs THICC KOISHI
  1. 00:02:749 (9,10,11) - You should have shown the difference between pitches on these two parts imo. 00:05:149 (19,20,21,22,23) - has way higher pitch.
    So maybe change into d k k k d or smth like that. If you changed, adjust 00:16:120 (78,79,80,81,82) - according to the change you did. I changed to dkkdk, but only on that part and similar
  2. 00:22:977 - How about higher SV so ninja notes could represent cheer sounds better :^) Nah I'm fine with regular SV lol
  3. 01:17:835 - Ninja notes are cool, u know :^ ^
  4. 01:36:949 (538,539) - This sound isn't same as 01:35:577 (525,526) -, so maybe change 01:36:692 (535,536,537,538,539) - to kkkkd as you did at 04:45:949 (384,385,386,387,388) - to show the difference. 01:42:435 (589,590) - for consistency.
  5. 01:44:063 (604,605,606) - You missed 1/6 sound? It's an offset 1/4 as far as I can hear it
  6. 02:22:292 (105,106,107,108,109) - Same suggestion as first. Same
  7. 02:22:292 (105,106,107,108,109) - What do u think about ninjas? Same as before
  8. 02:42:863 - Huh? I didn't hear any buzz sound, so maybe change a bit? rip pepes btw rip pepes, changed a bit
  9. 03:37:720 - Unlike the part I pointed out above, you could use 1/6 notes here so you'll have followed more accurate way. pepes have been revived
  10. 03:44:577 (124,125,126,127) - Same suggestion as first. Same
  11. 03:55:549 (188,189,190,191,192) - it's me mario
  12. 04:02:406 - K A S A I + Ninja = ? :thinking:
  13. 04:57:177 (481,482) - I suggest CTRL+G to have consistency with 04:45:949 (384,385,386,387,388) -. Cymbal there so no change, and it feels weird to play if I change 481 to kat lol
taco needs more memes btw
Thanks :^
Chromoxx
hey, quick check as requested

04:57:349 - delete this note, because this really messes up the playability on the last 1/6, since the same 1/6 pattern was repeated throughout the entire earlier map, which conditions the player to start hit the kddk with the main hand and the kkkkkkd with their secondary hand
00:14:406 - not entirely sure about finishers like this throughout the entire map since you're emphasizing a faint crash over strong main sounds like 00:14:749 - .. its kinda interesting and i can see it working, but i'd suggest rethinking it a little bit and seeing if you can come up with an option that also puts strong emphasis on the main sounds

that's basically it.. very solid map lol
Topic Starter
Midnaait

Chromoxx wrote:

hey, quick check as requested

04:57:349 - delete this note, because this really messes up the playability on the last 1/6, since the same 1/6 pattern was repeated throughout the entire earlier map, which conditions the player to start hit the kddk with the main hand and the kkkkkkd with their secondary hand Alright, deleted
00:14:406 - not entirely sure about finishers like this throughout the entire map since you're emphasizing a faint crash over strong main sounds like 00:14:749 - .. its kinda interesting and i can see it working, but i'd suggest rethinking it a little bit and seeing if you can come up with an option that also puts strong emphasis on the main sounds I tried putting both as finisher kats, Putting the finisher on 00:14:749 - instead, and doing K D. none of them were good enough to change imo

that's basically it.. very solid map lol
Thanks! :)

Also quick log

00:49:206 - Changed this part a bit

01:49:806 - Added a kat
Chromoxx
changed bg back to the old version, looking good!
Surono
"get ready for the next battle" :^)

SurOON TM
Topic Starter
Midnaait

Chromoxx wrote:

changed bg back to the old version, looking good!
OH MAN

HYPE
KamizonoShinobu
Since this map is bubbled I will not go detail modding as quality is ensured.

The only diff

  • I would recommend OD6.5 because BPM is moderate only. But I know this map is intended for pp so /shrug

    00:10:892 (51) - k ? Add variation
    00:21:606 (110) - I would start the spinner here since the long fx started here.
    00:50:063 (223) - finisher to amplify the emphasizing effect
    01:05:492 (354,355,356,357,358) - kkdkd ? The pitch go downwards from 01:05:835 (356) -
    01:16:463 (403) - ^
    01:54:863 (707) - 4^
    02:12:520 (50) - d to emphasize 51
    02:27:777 (137) - ^^
    02:45:263 (109,110) - Finisher? There are heavy percussion sounds
    03:07:549 (277) - ^^
    04:01:035 (226) - ^
    05:06:863 (557) - ^

Good luck!
Wormi
I suggest you to resize/use background from my map because of how C-Show gets cut, especially on 4:3 ratio / thumbnail

good luck
Topic Starter
Midnaait

Chocola_2287 wrote:

Since this map is bubbled I will not go detail modding as quality is ensured.

The only diff

  • I would recommend OD6.5 because BPM is moderate only. But I know this map is intended for pp so /shrug It's fine with OD7 imo lol

    00:10:892 (51) - k ? Add variation I think it's fine, it just the start of the song and there's no melody to put kats there
    00:21:606 (110) - I would start the spinner here since the long fx started here. Yeah, but there's a kick so I put that as a don and then a 1/2 break so it doesn't play weird, I see why tho
    00:50:063 (223) - finisher to amplify the emphasizing effect I think it emphasizes less on 00:50:406 - if I put that as a finisher lol
    01:05:492 (354,355,356,357,358) - kkdkd ? The pitch go downwards from 01:05:835 (356) - changed to dkkkdk, fits better imo
    01:16:463 (403) - ^ I'd do the same here but it's another instrument and doesn't feel well if i repeat the first three notes being ddk
    01:54:863 (707) - 4^ ^
    02:12:520 (50) - d to emphasize 51 Mapping to claps there
    02:27:777 (137) - ^^ But that's already a d lol
    02:45:263 (109,110) - Finisher? There are heavy percussion sounds Might be heavy, but they're not cymbals, putting them as finishers would remove emphasis on the start of the kiai 02:45:606 -
    03:07:549 (277) - ^^
    04:01:035 (226) - ^
    05:06:863 (557) - ^

Good luck!

Worminators wrote:

I suggest you to resize/use background from my map because of how C-Show gets cut, especially on 4:3 ratio / thumbnail sure why not :thinking:

good luck
Thanks, will apply later :)
Surono
https://soundboard.ass-we-can.com

00:41:063 - 00:46:549 - yeah I think these should be don to make clearly differs emphasis with 00:42:435 - 00:43:806 - 00:47:920 - , yeah is not break the consistency alternating hit pls

00:50:063 - finish it cuz yeah powa of aniki or 00:49:977 - add lol, I'd prefer finish :^)

00:53:406 - 00:54:777 - yeah if you want these too, cuz yeh good if have dominant dons too on structure stream. or 00:53:320 - 00:54:692 - don these :^

00:58:720 - don? 00:58:806 - to emphasize the alternate sound

01:38:577 (559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569) - I SEE YOU ARE A CULTURE OF HERMAN LI

03:20:920 - / 03:31:892 - yo kat, its still same with left kats. the alternate sound is start 03:21:263 - here example

04:05:149 - these K D K, how about D D D? cuz yeh I think the vocal are on flat range. just like you did for KA SA I

04:40:463 - have an impact, wanna finish?

Aniki 2014
Topic Starter
Midnaait

Surono wrote:

https://soundboard.ass-we-can.com

00:41:063 - 00:46:549 - yeah I think these should be don to make clearly differs emphasis with 00:42:435 - 00:43:806 - 00:47:920 - , yeah is not break the consistency alternating hit pls I changed 00:40:977 - and 00:46:463 - to d, because your suggestion plays really weird if you alt, and makes you do almost everything with your less experienced hand lol

00:50:063 - finish it cuz yeah powa of aniki or 00:49:977 - add lol, I'd prefer finish :^) Added a note in 00:49:977

00:53:406 - 00:54:777 - yeah if you want these too, cuz yeh good if have dominant dons too on structure stream. or 00:53:320 - 00:54:692 - don these :^ I donned :^

00:58:720 - don? 00:58:806 - to emphasize the alternate sound It's all kats for the wubwub thingy and because of the cymbal in 00:58:635 -

01:38:577 (559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567,568,569) - I SEE YOU ARE A CULTURE OF HERMAN LI :^)

03:20:920 - / 03:31:892 - yo kat, its still same with left kats. the alternate sound is start 03:21:263 - here example idk, I think it plays and flows a bit better with kkd lol

04:05:149 - these K D K, how about D D D? cuz yeh I think the vocal are on flat range. just like you did for KA SA I KDK is for consistency with the rest of the similar parts, as this is the only cheer words that doesn't change

04:40:463 - have an impact, wanna finish? That'd remove the emphasis on the kiai

Aniki 2014
Thanks mang :^)
Surono
International Baseball Festival 2017 -WORLD OF COMPOSSER-
Topic Starter
Midnaait

Surono wrote:

International Baseball Festival 2017 -WORLD OF COMPOSSER-

ayy lmao
thanks to everybody 8-)
Catgirl
if this map gets ranked i'm actually quitting the game

thanks midnaait

please stop mapping songs only because the song screams pp, and better yet don't make shitty repetitive maps with patterns that break star rating and with od that breaks pp

this goes for everyone

but they'll never stop because people love their pp too much

this game is shit and isn't enjoyable at all anymore
Surono
dw sir dont sad, I will make anime maps or piano mode soonTM!
zigizigiefe

Catgirl wrote:

if this map gets ranked i'm actually quitting the game

thanks midnaait

please stop mapping songs only because the song screams pp, and better yet don't make shitty repetitive maps with patterns that break star rating and with od that breaks pp

this goes for everyone

but they'll never stop because people love their pp too much

this game is shit and isn't enjoyable at all anymore
I was thinking of reply that so here I am.

Well, most of the people misunderstand pp mapping. It means that anyone make a map to farm some pp. We all know what kind of song Midnaait maps. He makes meme maps that includes past memes like We are Number One, UNDERTALE, Spooky Scary Skeletons and more. Since STD version of Cycle Hit got so popular lately, it makes sense that he mapped it.

Since you criticized him that heavily, then you are able to tell how else it could be mapped. Strong buzz sounds and 1/6 notes fit clearly, so I can't see any element about overmapping.

I have a bubbled map like this as well and 1/6 patterns are placed over similar sounds. You might say "wtf zigi arent you metal mapper why did you map a song from nanahira" now. Well, I don't map only metal. I map all genres, as long as they're nice to my ears (includes songs about loli, yeah).

Don't think I'm trying to justify the pp. First off, I play this game just for fun. Otherwise, I'd be trying to FC 6,50* maps until my eyesight deteriorate. Also, why would I do that or make a "free pp map"? I won't even attempt to FC them anyway. Even if I do, top players will make 600+ pp play, when I make max. 300pp. By the way, nice top plays. I thought you don't care pp.

I tried to answer potential questions you might go to ask, so you will come with less question mark (or never come lol).

Once and for all, you can criticize anyone's map. That's your god-given right, but if you do it by insulting, they will treat you like you treat them.
Catgirl
not gonna bother making a relevant reply, since because i don't map or mod then i'm not allowed to have an opinion on anything

so i'll ask this instead:

can we please get some kind of update on star rating calculations so that this map and every other map that abuses 1/6 or 1/8 patterns isn't super overweighted? it's overcentralizing the mapping meta by requiring songs to be mapped in a certain way (and only certain songs being viable to map) in order to boost star rating and make the maps relevant. it's getting to a point like in standard where almost every map feels the same, and i think it's a direct result of people caring too much about pp based on a broken star rating system.
Surono
just my opinion about this case, not intended to mean someone here. these words are just parable and derived from the situation
sry sir catgirl and efe, im nub at opinion express

but why so serious to pay attention on the star rating or something something "pepe" ? please, dont blame the mapper if its a system. you need to care it on related context like t/181852/start=630 in here right? mapped like this because yeah song it is, I even more upset if seeing a ranked map with something hard or really trolling with low sr.. but uh its just game and everyone has a different way to enjoy this game. but why with this solid consistent map that would be easier if get pracite more / played alot, you got mad just because of that, the star rating "system"? is not that weird?

yeah,,,
Catgirl

Surono wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/181852/start=630
basically everything has been said in this thread many times and it's beyond dead with nothing ever changed so yeah, what else do you want us to do?
Surono
yes, nothing.. take as it is
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