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Evandragon and Nana-mai - Youmu-chan Fukubukuro [Osu|Taiko]

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Doguu
Just fixing my part... I also altered my part to correlate with ASPIRIN's part better. Let Coopertine be aware as his part was correlated with mine and now it's in a state of disarray.

The slider and NC were just broken but my response to the clockwise vs counterclockwise flow mod towards the end is: there is a prominent background sound increasing in intensity and I represent that with a sudden change in flow and difficulty spike with the jumps.

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TomArrow
My part : #37 - Po Pi Po


[References]
wazgul - Po Pi Po (Ryu* Remix) + TF2 [MaD] feat. Ippon Manzoku. by Bara-
IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita by DJPop


.osu
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melloe
#38: Gettan/Get Down

hello
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voynich
This looks cool as shit
Write a part ror me and I'll get back to you in the afternoon
Mantle
Ty Yusomi for mod :)
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Joe Castle
Hi, can I take the Platinum disco part?
voynich
#27
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Kondou-Shinichi
k
#17
Map referred: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/27441
my part (sv and notes only of my part)
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Custom hitsounds: http://puu.sh/xQpar/f5aba2ec7f.rar
.osz (if everything fails): http://puu.sh/xQpfv/f835c59fae.osz
jean400
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waefwerf
M4M from queue
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/669692

sry if latest update invalidates any points

[Youmu-chan's Amazing Collab!]

In general, there are several rhythm issues, both some regarding emphasis and simply incorrect rhythms or indication of same.

00:11:416 (1,2,7,1) - Iffy looking blankets
00:16:616 (2) - Typically Ctrl+G makes for a clearer indication of the rhythm and also makes movement more interesting
00:42:216 (4,1) - what is the difference between this and 00:40:616 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ? Same with 00:45:416 (4,1,2) -
00:50:216 (3,4) - This having the same spacing as 00:49:816 (1,2) - indicates the same rhythm, when it's not the case. Suggest moving 00:50:616 (4,5) - somewhere else, where it's not part of the same pattern
01:06:416 (1,2,3) - This rhythm doesn't at all feel like it's actually in the song. Something like https://i.imgur.com/nygPn4f.png fits better in terms of emphasis
01:08:316 - Really missing a note here, both due to emphasis and readability, refer to Charles445's video on polarity switching.
01:11:516 - ^, even worse here
01:05:816 - 01:18:016 - this whole section has lots of wierd small spacings that could easily be improved to make the map more interesting. Simplest example is simply making 01:15:416 (3,1) - much bigger, rotating 01:16:016 (1,2,3) - an additional amount (45 degrees?)
01:55:416 - Maybe add some sort of SV increase here? Sounds like there could be more in the song here
02:01:816 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing feels really big compared to the volume of the song, maybe tone it down a bit? (nice pattern though)
02:04:416 (1,2,1,2) - this sort of spacing is not at all intuitive given the rest of the map. This really needs to be toned down. Same goes for 02:07:616 (1,2,1,2) -
02:16:216 (1,2,3,4) - Listening without hitsounds, this sound a lot like kickslider abuse not in the song. There are more interesting rhythms to map than repeated kicksliders. Goes for whole section
02:44:616 - 02:44:716 - Why aren't these mapped? :( You're mapping the nyan sounds, don't skip them randomly
02:48:216 - 03:01:016 - Several rhythm issues here. 02:49:216 - is stronger than 02:49:316 - yet map doesn't reflect that. 02:51:416 (1,2,3,4) - doesn't match anything in the song. In general, it would likely make much more sense to map the vocals than the drum beat when the drums don't do anything special.
03:13:816 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ^Much better here, this reflects the music way better.
02:56:216 (1,2,3,4,5) - This zig is also really precise compared to what it looks like and compared to the map being 5.1*.
03:19:416 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Something like https://i.imgur.com/oYJ5HfI.png would fit this particular drumbeat better (maybe not with that kind of object placement, though :p)
03:21:816 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same point about rhythms
03:24:416 (8,9) - Misleading spacing
03:32:416 (5,6) - 03:32:516 - is a weaker sound than both 03:32:416 - and 03:32:616 - , but the rhythm emphasizes the weak sound much more.
03:39:416 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - Nice part. The blanket spacings are a bit rude, but mostly playable IMO
03:56:179 (5,6) - please no
04:09:512 (5,6) - ^^^wtf?
04:17:846 (7,8,9) - All night of knights maps i've seen map a 1/6 thing from 04:17:846 - (that's also what's in the music).
04:29:012 (1,2) - Seems really hard to decipher this spacing. Move 04:29:262 (2) - onwards somewhere further away from 04:29:012 (1) -
04:36:346 (4,1) - Really misleading spacing here.
04:36:846 (3,1) - ^ This also feels like 04:37:179 (1,2,3) - should be directly Ctrl+H of 04:36:512 (1,2,3) -, placement as well
04:37:512 (3,1) - ^re spacing
04:37:846 (1,2,3) - 1/3 rhythm is more appropriate here.
04:45:596 (2,3,4) - There isn't any good way to recognize that this is snapped on blue ticks. Refer to Charles445's video on polarity
05:09:012 (1,2,3,4) - This sort of stacking is not readable. Unstack 05:09:012 (1) - from 05:09:179 (2,3,4) -
05:11:346 (6,7,8,1) - ^
05:34:846 (3,1) - Really huge spacing here, probably should be nerfed.
05:35:679 - 05:57:012 - largely a quite nice section. Still a couple of nitpicks.
05:41:846 (7) - I'd suggest pulling this out of the same pattern as 05:41:346 (4,5,6) - due to vocal being quite different. For the same reason, make it just an ordinary circle.
05:43:179 (7) - ^minus the circle part
05:52:512 (7) - Same point about kickslider
05:46:346 (3,1) - Probably would map this with a slider for clarity
Kondou-Shinichi
I can’t reply fully to any mods since my pc is behaving like a cuck and its not fucking working
for why is there so many streams/strange emphasis on part 17 (the 1min one), its because the only ranked version to refer to is: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/27441
I tried to make it more reasonable, but im keeping the overdone stream rhythm choise
melloe

waefwerf wrote:

05:35:679 - 05:57:012 - largely a quite nice section. thanks Still a couple of nitpicks.
05:41:846 (7) - I'd suggest pulling this out of the same pattern as 05:41:346 (4,5,6) - due to vocal being quite different. For the same reason, make it just an ordinary circle.
05:43:179 (7) - ^minus the circle part sliders to reflect vocal, circle is non-vocal (just filler to make it satisfying). and i'd like to keep the patterns simpler for this collab and not overcomplicate things as i like to do in my other maps
05:52:512 (7) - Same point about kickslider the vocals sound pretty similar to me
05:46:346 (3,1) - Probably would map this with a slider for clarity 05:45:679 (1,2) - are both held notes vocally, but 05:46:346 (3) - is much sharper so i want a circle instead of slider, more instant
no fix but ty for mod!

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Joe Castle
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY PART IS FINALLY DONE YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS

sorry for taking too much time, i was trying to put some of my style on it too...

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Map style was based on the following maps:

1. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/45720
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/547494
ScubDomino

waefwerf wrote:

02:04:416 (1,2,1,2) - this sort of spacing is not at all intuitive given the rest of the map. This really needs to be toned down. Same goes for 02:07:616 (1,2,1,2) - kk fixed
Maffe

waefwerf wrote:

02:01:816 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing feels really big compared to the volume of the song, maybe tone it down a bit? (nice pattern though)

It's fine the way it is. The base spacing as it is is really not outrageous because sliders have leniency and 1/4's play much like circles, but easier. In 02:01:816 - new sounds are introduced which i decide to follow. The song is climaxing obviously. I guess i could summarize it as progression through movement, where the movement is accelerating as the song progresses since it is climaxing.
P4ndemonium
#1
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Daiyousei

waefwerf wrote:

04:29:012 (1,2) - Seems really hard to decipher this spacing. Move 04:29:262 (2) - onwards somewhere further away from 04:29:012 (1) - ok
thanks for the mod
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A1caida

waefwerf wrote:

M4M from queue
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/669692

sry if latest update invalidates any points

[Youmu-chan's Amazing Collab!]

03:56:179 (5,6) - please no lol
04:09:512 (5,6) - ^^^wtf? ^^
04:17:846 (7,8,9) - All night of knights maps i've seen map a 1/6 thing from 04:17:846 - (that's also what's in the music). wow
Thank you!

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Hanswall

waefwerf wrote:

04:36:346 (4,1) - Really misleading spacing here. Fixed
04:36:846 (3,1) - ^ This also feels like 04:37:179 (1,2,3) - should be directly Ctrl+H of 04:36:512 (1,2,3) -, placement as well Didn't really understand what you meant :|
04:37:512 (3,1) - ^re spacing Fixed
04:37:846 (1,2,3) - 1/3 rhythm is more appropriate here. No it start sounds worse
Thx for mod :)

There's my updated part
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melloe
someone wanted me to fix the first sliders of #38 to fix spacing issue between #37 and #38

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Luna Flina
sorry i was busy with things outside osu

Yusomi wrote:

Youma-chan's Amazing Collab
04:54:679 (2,6) - move 6 left a little to avoid overlap, makes things look tidier
04:56:679 (3,2) - stack the 2 under 3's sliderend don't think this is necessary, and it's not hard to read when it's stacked under 1
05:00:512 (2,1) - overlap can be avoided here
05:02:346 (3,4) - i think NC would be nice here for such sv changes

good luck !
all others applied

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Mantle
ty waefwerf for mod :)
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Cyrzai
I can't delete this oml
ItashaS13

  • COLLAB
    01:08:216 - missed a beat uh.. this seems to be on purpose, but I feel like a double doesn't really fit at all, makes a misleading rhythm and you have a strong sound on 01:11:516 - so Id recommend making streams instead
    01:20:216 (1,5) - stack triplet head with slider www
    01:22:016 (2,3) - I don't really see the point of this since it's like the only time you used this kickslider+circle on this kind of sound... so you used triplets later and kickslider+circle for other kind of sounds which doesn't make sense to me ==
    01:22:916 (7,2) - map clean pls stack :)
    01:28:216 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - flow could be improved by ctrl+g'ing some circles - eg-.01:28:416 (2,3) - 01:29:216 (2,3) - and then adjust their spacing
    01:54:616 - missed a beat? I don't think this is on porpuse :thinking:
    01:55:416 (1,1,1) - imo these could have better emphasize, add more spacing maybe, it doesn't really stand out from the rest :thonkang:
    02:04:416 (1,2,1,2) - I recommend using less spacing here, and increase it in every part like this, hard to read the first time, but once you use this again, it becomes more natural
    02:12:016 (1,1) - LOOOOK AT THAT STACK PAPA MIRA ESOOo loL fix pls XD thanks
    02:17:316 (2,3) - maybe stack this with the 3? the slider? to make it more clean, 02:22:816 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
    02:22:816 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I noticed something weird in this part while playing, I see its because everything is on blue ticks but I can't say it's wrong because the song goes like that hmm
    02:44:616 - 02:44:716 - missed beats
    02:52:316 (7) - make this a double, plays better
    02:53:416 (6,7) - I also don't like this, flow is awkward and doesn't emphasize anything, I feel like this was one of the most intense parts of the song but it has low spacing
    02:59:716 (4) - this is also confusing, the slider should be placed in the WHITE tick
    03:02:616 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - awkward flow and weird placement, looks messy :thanking:
    03:16:816 (3,7,8,2) - pls avoid ugly overlaps like this :<
    03:20:216 - this SHOULD be clickable
    03:20:416 (1,2,3,4,5) - flow and emphasize could be improved, maybe make something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9276002 idk just a suggestion
    03:21:416 (2,3) - ctrl+g?
    04:17:846 (7,8) - NC? to make clear that there's a change in rhythm
    04:32:846 (1,2,3) - 04:36:179 (2,3,4) - any reason for such spacing? I don't hear anything that should be emphasized by those high spaced triplets
    overall: fun, some parts could be emphasized better and work on aesthetics to make everything clear, some parts looks like too random
Lorkee
Hiiiii m4m <3
Youmu-chan's Amazing Collab!


SPOILER

  • P4ndemonium
  1. 00:06:416 (10,2,3,4) - Overlaps :S
  2. 00:05:916 (7,5,6) - Too close

  • Joe Castle
  1. 01:18:616 - Remove this inherited timing point!

  • ScubDomino
  1. 02:03:416 - Delete this inherited timing point!
  2. 02:04:416 - There are two inherited timing points on the same point: https://puu.sh/xTRMG/4ebc049d35.png

  • Dinocrit
  1. 02:09:816 - Again, delete the inherited timing point!
Origuon
Yo M4M from #modreqs

00:11:816 (2) - this sliders looks kinda weird this is not flowing really good
00:14:616 (1,2,3,4) - nice pattern but you need to keep the consistency and repeat it cuz you can hear the same sound repeating and 00:15:416 (5) - NC
00:56:216 (1,2,3) - 00:57:016 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try kepping the same spacing bewtween those two cuz they are representing the same sound the 2nd is just a bit longer than the 1st
01:22:016 (2,3) - that's not bad bgut it looks kinda weird i think a triple should be really better
01:23:616 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - Hey nice concept :D
02:36:216 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I know that it's a short low bpm stream but in my opinion the spacing is too big
02:56:216 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Keep this consistent with this plz 02:57:816 (1,2) - exatcly same sounds but not sames objects
03:02:016 (4,5) - a 1/1 kickslider should be good
04:34:346 (1,2) - Why the sliders are slow ?
I really like all the Luna Flina Part :D
05:11:346 (6,7,8,1) - i Think the 6 shouldn't be stacked to the two other notes
Hey nice collab with a lot of nice songs :D
voynich
should probably mod this since i wanna see this ranked.

oof
YelloJello
00:13:816 (3,4,5,6,7) - round this out more
00:14:616 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - put these into an even shape,something like this:

00:17:616 (9) - this could overlap with 00:16:616 (2)
Cream Cookies
00:43:816 (1,2,1,2) - these could be too sharp to easily play.use something like this instead.

00:49:016 (9) - wouldn't it make sense to nc this?

DeRandomOtaku
00:53:716 - there's a note here that's unaccounted for
Mantle
my guy mantle why??????
there are quite a few problems with rhythm and placement of sliders here.

please take a look at the actual map for this song.
a few things to take note of:
  1. the order of every object has a reasonable placement for its existence
  2. time distance equality is a must.please for the love of god use distance snap. 1.4x is fine.
  3. everything is spaced very far apart
  4. there is an nc on every note
  5. also use grid snap
with those in mind:
space things out a lot more.
01:06:016 (2,3,4) - no angles.
01:06:216 (4) - there is a 1/2 slider on this beat.what are you doing mantle????this is such an easy spot to break on!!
01:06:416 (1) - the 1/4 sliders aren't needed until 01:06:616 (2) ,and even then it should be this:

01:12:016 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - at least be consistent with your hitsounding.
01:13:016 (3) - just use ctrl+c
01:15:416 (3) - only bezier curves.add another white tick.it'll look ugly but that's the point if you're going for a match with the original.
Little
01:22:016 (2,3) - this is a bit too weird to read.refrain from doing something like this,especially since you're already a minute in and this hasn't been shown before.
01:29:016 (1,2,3,4) - order please.this doesn't look good at all.
-Inyafaze-
01:35:816 (3) - just use this slider instead of 01:34:616 (1) .
01:37:616 (4) - good try but it doesn't line up well at all.
01:41:816 (1,2,3) - what is with you people and intentionally confusing slider placements.this is an easy combo breaker.there is no reason for these to be here.

01:49:816 (6,7) - angle these vertical like so:

01:52:016 (1) - rotate clockwise by 4 maybe?
01:53:816 (1) - why?
01:54:416 (2) - why??
01:55:716 (1) - turn down the slider velocity multiplier just a bit here and ctrl+g that bitch.it'll be beautiful
ScubDomino
good map.
Dinocrit
02:10:616 (4,1) - that's a gross slider.angle it a bit more obtuse.
02:10:216 (2) - lower this a bit
02:10:416 (3) - stack this on 02:11:016 (1) 's tail
02:11:016 (1) - take away this nc and put it on 02:11:416 (2) instead.
02:10:616 (4,1,2,3,4) - this feels too claustrophobic (holy shit i spelled that right on the first try i'm amazed).
02:13:616 (4) - this is a bit weird.why have this match 02:13:016 (2) 's tail's y-position and not 02:13:416 (3) ?
02:15:416 (2) - let this overlap with 02:14:616 (3)
akwari
you have the same issues as mantle.
please learn rhythm.
it's super ambiguous as to what rhythm you're following.
is it the background or the main vocals?
otherwise your placement is okay.

02:25:816 (5) - what's with the random clap.
Rudmorph
02:37:216 (2) - delete this, take 02:37:016 (1) , copy it, and rotate the slider by -120 degrees.looks way better.
02:44:616 - why the gap
Kondou-Shinichi
02:53:416 (6) - shouldn't this be at 99,18?
02:56:216 (1,2,3,4) - this is weird.
03:01:416 (2) - move this a bit so it doesn't overlap.
03:01:616 (3) - make this a simple 1/4 slider; no repeats. then put a 1/2 slider on the white tick after it.like this:

03:03:416 (1,2,3,4) - make the spacing even here.
03:05:216 (1) - better off with a repeat.
03:07:716 (2) - don't overlap.
03:10:816 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this is an easy place to break.please stop with the weird af overlaps.
03:15:416 (1,2,3,4,5) - treat the slider end as the beginning of the stream and continue the stream in a round shape.the current version looks gross.
03:20:116 (8) - there's an important sound on the slider end.always have important sounds use an active beat (as in "you can click it")
03:19:416 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - imo you should've kept with the 90 degree streams.they're an interesting contrast.
03:22:616 (1,2,3) - as long as it's leading onto another slider,i'm fine with this overlap,especially since it's easily visible.
03:24:016 (4,5,6,7,8) - treat streams as sliders in this circumstance.there is an important sound in the middle of this stream.
03:25:416 (3) - no. angle this please.
03:25:616 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - way too ambiguous.easy spot to break combo.
03:29:616 (4) - angle a bit
03:41:816 (1,2,1) - that's a bit risky to have.

don't beat yourself over the long mod.your part is just long.
-Alcaida
03:55:679 (1) - treat this as part of the stream beforehand.

i'll continue my mod another time since this map is long af

you should probably update storyboard since you have everyone lol
Cyrzai

waefwerf wrote:

02:16:216 (1,2,3,4) - Listening without hitsounds, this sound a lot like kickslider abuse not in the song. There are more interesting rhythms to map than repeated kicksliders. Goes for whole section. The whole idea of the kicksliders is to emphasize the voice cuts while the sample says "pupupue" :V
Joe Castle
All right :)

I used almost all the things that all 4 modders mentioned about my part (except one from Itasha and one from -Nishiki-), hopefully now it looks better :) thank you guys!

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YelloJello
I actually got off my ass and fixed my section wooo

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- Woooooo
clayton

Origuon wrote:

04:34:346 (1,2) - Why the sliders are slow ?
I wanted to give the last slider 1.5x because it has a higher tone so I kept these previous two slower. It shouldn't be hard to read because there's a stack before it and it's pretty clear that they're 1/1

no change, but thanks for mod! :D
Mantle
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DeRandom Otaku
00:50:216 (3,4) - This is intended because i wanted to give the pattern a gimmicky feeling even tho it sucks and i aint changing it no matter how many timesits pointed out
00:52:616 (8,9,10,1,2) - this is intentional
00:56:216 (1,2,3) - 00:57:016 (1,2,3,4,5) - The triple has higher spacing because of stronger pitch

Thanks all.
ye no change
dvxnl
Late respond to Yusomi's mod
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Hanswall
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Kondou-Shinichi
the timing point remains the same. just replace the objects.
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