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Guilty Kiss - Shadow gate to love [Osu|Taiko]

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want sexy bg
DreaM117er

Left wrote:

want sexy bg
Hentai, but I like it :)
Rizen
background too sexy for osu?!?!

e
00:53:852 (2,3,4,5) - flow direction here pretty misleading for an easy diff. consider repositioning the slider
01:04:138 (5) - perhaps add NC because it's a highlight of the chorus like 01:13:281 (1) -

n
00:22:328 (5) -1/6 vocal?
seemsgood

h
00:22:138 (2,3) - perhaps this could be a slider ffor consistency with 00:31:281 (2) - , 00:26:709 (2) - , etc.
00:27:566 (1,2) - shouldn't spacing be higher going towards (1)? much stronger sound than (2)
this diff is sex

L's i
no complaints except for rhythm at 01:29:281 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - being rather ambiguous on what it's following. e.g. from 01:28:423 (2,1,1) - , it seems you are following the vocals. if so, you would add a circle to 01:29:709 - but u didn't and mapped the snare drum at 01:29:852 (3) - instead, then switched to bongo drums at 01:30:138 (1) - , 01:30:281 (2) - start of vocal(?), 01:30:423 - ignoring the bongo drums u mapped before + vocals, 01:30:566 (1) - returning to map the bongo, 01:30:709 (2) - returning to map vocals, etc etc. I guess what i'm trying to say is that you should really be following one or two things over here instead of switching between what you're following here

glgl
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a q p w wrote:

e
01:04:138 (5) - perhaps add NC because it's a highlight of the chorus like 01:13:281 (1) - I don't want there to be more hp gain from the NC when object density is fairly high as it is.

n
00:22:328 (5) -1/6 vocal? 1/6 sounds a bit late and I think the blue would be better since it correlates with the spacing in the entire map making it very unlikely to be misread/mistimed whilst playing
seemsgood
fixed the other thing, ty for the mod!

I called kin back but I think he is really busy atm O.o
Left
nope i was just following drum

made it easier tho
DreaM117er
@a q p w: well, I change a slider at 00:22:138 (2) - I think it's better now. coz 1/6 follow vocal is a bad way in Hard diff, it would make lots of problem. Other one fixed :)

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Topic Starter
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Updated ~

Call back time :eyes:
Topic Starter
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Lol i forgot to reply

Zero Wind

Zero__wind wrote:

NM from my queue

Red: unrankable issues
Purple: highly recommend to fix

General
seems fine

Easy
00:30:566 - recommended to add a circle here just like how you mapped this blue tick rhythm before with 00:11:566 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and else I wanted this to have a lower rhythm density than the intro as I did feel it's a bit calmer here. Also didn't want complete copy pasted rhythms for 30 secs
00:35:138 - ^ ^

Normal

00:27:566 (1,2) - starting a slider from 00:27:566 - to follow vocal should make the rhythm more consistent and easier for beginners to grab, as you've already been mapping to vocal for the whole part from 00:20:709 (1) - I think it's better to map the drums here since I move on to map the drums heavily with 00:28:281 (3,4) -

call me back

Aeril

Aeril wrote:

easy

  1. 00:21:423 - i think you should map all these vocals you skipped considering thats what ur mapping this section and it just feels odd Same reasoning as given to Zero Wind (too lazy to copy paste owo)
  2. 00:59:566 (5) - id recommend nc here just cuz its start of new phrase but not really that imporant but if anything id nc 01:04:138 (5) - this because emphasis I don't really believe in NC-ing just for emphasis as it messes up the NC density in the map without a real need therefor screwing up the desired hp. Because the object density is higher here I don't want players getting more hp back than other parts
  3. 01:26:995 (4) - id nc this too for emphasis ^
normal

  1. 00:36:709 (1,2) - id either change this to a 1/4 slider or 00:37:423 (4,5) - this to a 1/2 slider because this part right here is pretty intense clicking wise and i dont think this really deserves it I don't feel it's that hard to play nor the denisty is unjustified.
  2. i like ur normal diffs
kisses

  1. 01:09:423 (1,2,3) - if you recreated that pattern before with the overlaps and close spacing would make this part feel more fitting rather than being the exact same as the rest Sorry I don't see what the real problem is, I just wanted to make the chorus mapped with a consistent structure
  2. 01:13:281 (1) - id probably change this to two 1/4 sliders because you cant really hear what your following here well rn I tried that but the 1/2 sliders didn't capture as big of a different feeling than the rest of the kiai so I'm sticking with these :v
ki

Halfslashed

Halfslashed wrote:

Year old ticket.

I hate sunshine. same

[Easy]
00:21:423 - I don't see why you're skipping this vocal when you map it over at 00:23:709 -. The player already gets a 2/1 break after 00:21:709 (2) - anyways. Same responce as Aeril (too lazy to copy paste :p )

[Kisses]
00:12:852 (1) - Feels really weird to start a repeat here when the repeating vocals start on the red tick like they do. I think you're better off ending 00:12:566 (3) - on a slider then using large 1/2 spacing and starting a 1/2 slider on 00:12:995 -. I did this pretty much based on feeling. All the sliders start on drums and the repeat is an extended duration between drum beats
01:00:566 (2,3) - This overlap felt out of place due to the low amount of cursor motion involved here compared to places like 00:58:281 (2,3) - 01:09:709 (2,3) - I recommend changing this to be more consistent with other similar parts, since this feels like a drop in cursor pacing in play. I was kind of focusing on structure and dynamicness of play. I did think it was cool do this one off and still keep with the composure of the rest of the kiai
01:13:281 (1,2) - These double repeats don't really work too well due to how weak the background synth is here. I recommend using toe 1/2 sliders instead to focus the vocals, since the rest of the instrumentals pretty much died out here. same as Aeril :p

Good luck!

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Zero__wind
why making Kisses diff longer than the other diffs? I don't think you have that part at the time I modded your map
tbh, I don't think very last part from 01:33:852 (1) - in Kisses diff adds anything to the entire map, it just feels really redundant and weird to me and the combo colors too
whether from mapping quality or from ranking rules I suggest that you remove the last part 01:33:852 (1) - from Kisses diff, as it's highly recommended to end your own diffs at the same time. taikos are ok to be different from std diffs though

besides, please turn on widescreen support fro Nardo's diff to make it consistent with all the other diffs

I'm fine with the rest
Topic Starter
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I actually thought it was the end part was the best part of the map too (in terms of composure) O.o

After getting a few opinions I decided to just delete it. I ended the diff with a spinner instead like in dream117er's diff

Turned on widescreen in Nardo's diff too ~
Zero__wind
seXy
Kin

Kin wrote:

SV is bugged on Oni, you can only fix it by using the notepad D:
sorry but it's still not fixed >_>
your current SV on Oni is: SliderMultiplier:1.39999994039535
also, it's sad, but gotta get rid of this sexy BG ;w;

pm back please
Mir
whatever
Topic Starter
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map improved 110% by Kin ~
Kin
Okay, NSFW bg removed & nothing is broken.
Nao Tomori
rip satania nipple 2017-2017
Kin

Kin wrote:

Okay, NSFW bg removed & nothing is broken.
changed png to jpg >_>
Shiirn
bg img size status: reduced by 99%
nipple status: reduced by 99%
Topic Starter
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made very slight changes to the map
Nao Tomori
qualified

changed some stream patterns
rip bg
Pentori
The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to a username.
Nitrous
bg reminds of chuunibyou tbh. grats on qualify
pishifat
as requested
Nao Tomori
this is a different situation than that rule is intended to prevent, which was stuff like just naming a diff "skystar" or "LKs" or "AHO" instead of an actual difficulty name. since kisses is related to the song, and would be fine if his name was anything else, it should be fine here too.
Monstrata
Can't tell if meme or serious. Diff name is fine.
Topic Starter
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ok fixed tags ~
pishifat
ギルティキス was added to tags
Topic Starter
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ty Pishi for allowing to do that quick fix and thank you both Kin, Nao, and Zero Wind for nominating my map. Of course this extends to modders that helped improve the set.


I would most of all like to thank Left, Karen, Nardo, and Dream117er ~ I couldn't have made this set without you guys!
iYiyo
idk what's happening here, but that diff name IS related to the mapper...

the idea to have a rule like that is to not break it. Now you can just say whatever you may think so you're "not breaking it". At the end it's just my "opinion" you can say.

it'd be totally different if you maybe use "Kiss" as diffname, similar to what kage do https://osu.ppy.sh/s/424295 with his naruto maps...

Ughh. I guess now i should change my nickname to something i can use as a diffname ... ¿?¿? what kind of other rule should we break now? why are you so flexible with users so they can easily break the rules? This really looks like a joke to me.
Nao Tomori
plz... read my explanation.. look at the intention of the rule vs the wording. we should follow the INTENTION not the wording
same thing as why SL0 is rankable
iYiyo
This is obviously a meme by using kisses as the diffname. Hes just making fun of the rule and u guys are supporting it. Its different if it uses some elements of his username, like "kiss" or 'kage" in the case of kagetsu.

And not because SL0 is ranked (dont know that map), its rankeable. That shouldnt be an argument.

Just reword the rule by supporting this kind of things, or you guys are just breaking it.
Foxy Grandpa
Hi! I have some issues with the last difficulty

  • [Kisses]
  1. 00:36:281 (1) - What is this slider supposed to follow? It clearly doesn't follow the vocals since they end on 00:36:566 - and it goes right over the drum beat on 00:36:423 -
  2. 00:38:995 - I don't understand the NC spam in this entire section, 00:38:995 (1,1) - this is the same vocal sound but why are they NC'd? The SV change isn't high enough to warrant the spam for the entire section
  3. 00:56:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is so bad to look at and play, and it completely takes away from the building up sound that increases on 00:56:995 -
  4. 01:06:138 (1,2,3,4) - Literally no point in having these be sliders, I get the gimmick and what not but it plays so badly
  5. 01:14:423 (3) - Why, what is the point of having this A. Look so gross B. Not follow the vocals, the synth or anything and C. Have a slider so completely out of place with the rest of the map for a sound that doesn't even stand out that much
anna apple
Loved seeing this deviation from your normal approach :D

8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Topic Starter
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FoxyGrandpa wrote:

Hi! I have some issues with the last difficulty

  • [Kisses]
  1. 00:36:281 (1) - What is this slider supposed to follow? It clearly doesn't follow the vocals since they end on 00:36:566 - and it goes right over the drum beat on 00:36:423 - The first part follows the vocals. I extended the end to capture the more explosive sound of the object that comes after it. I also did it 00:27:138 (1) . I believe this to be a mre intuitive transition than just flat out following the vocals for the whole thing
  2. 00:38:995 - I don't understand the NC spam in this entire section, 00:38:995 (1,1) - this is the same vocal sound but why are they NC'd? The SV change isn't high enough to warrant the spam for the entire section This is part of a core aspect of the map. White = slow SV, Red = Medium SV,
    Purple = Fast SV, Turquoise = neutral or stand alone SV (or an NC pattern that would break the SV code). I built the map around that. I of course hadnt for the first part of the verse and outro because in the former there was a multiple of of SV changes which I believe would be better reflected in the current colour hax. As for the outro, there are no SV changes... so yeah ~

  3. 00:56:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is so bad to look at and play, and it completely takes away from the building up sound that increases on 00:56:995 -It's not that bad though I might take into consideration what other ppl say about this since I originally had a longer stream (typical stream like wave) but removed it due a number of people combo breaking and I thought it would come off as more frustrating for a player to keep messing up what they would perceive to be an overly hard pattern.

  4. 01:06:138 (1,2,3,4) - Literally no point in having these be sliders, I get the gimmick and what not but it plays so badly i don't see why it's overly bad to play at all. And there is a point to it, not only will it take away from the structure and concept of the map but because the rest of the map is built around OD 10 this stream would end up being so different from the rest of the map in terms of accuracy
  5. 01:14:423 (3) - Why, what is the point of having this A. Look so gross B. Not follow the vocals, the synth or anything and C. Have a slider so completely out of place with the rest of the map for a sound that doesn't even stand out that much I don't know what to say about it looking gross, to me it looks fairly clean. The prupose of this is to map that vibrato like wub sound. I dont know what else to say apart from listen more clearly
iYiyo
Seems like you guys dont want to pay attention to this issue and just let it pass. Therefore I'd like to address some other discussions on a fellow mapper's map who had the same issue with the custom diffname.

Sonnyc's argument: t/548782
Bakari's argument (+ MrSergio & Sonnyc reasons in the same page): p/5770488

After all this discussion, Hazu had to change the custom diffname. If you do this one time, you should stand firm with any new cases.

And I just want to say it again, reword the rule so you can make it a meme, otherwise you are breaking the rule, and that shouldn't be allowed in any case.
schoolboy
rly cool map, congrats!
Aeril
Plural


DreaM117er
sexy kisses :)

graz~~
Incomp
This map is pretty fun to play for the most part, but quickly goes downhill. At least, in my opinion.

[Kisses]
00:24:281 (2) - This slider passes through a sound that the next few sliders emphasize (the bubble pop sound). A little strange.
00:35:995 (2) - This slider passes right through a snare sound, which is really awkward. The vocal it follows seems to also end on that snare sound, so there's no point having the slider go through it.
00:36:281 (1) - Same from FoxyGrandpa's post. This slider is following nothing consistently.
00:56:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is just hideous to look at, and playing it isn't any better. Please consider revising this.
01:06:138 (1,2,3,4) - Consider making these look like actual sliders.
01:14:423 (3) - Not very pretty and I have no idea what it's emphasizing. Once again, please consider revising this.
pkhg
kisses already explained 00:36:281 (1) -
the rest doesnt rly matter 👀
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