Kanemoto Hisako & Iwami Manaka & Ookubo Rumi - GAMERS! · forum

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-09-06T07:22:31+00:00

Kocari wrote:
[NiNo's Extra]
Widescreen Support is off for me tho
00:08:513 (5) - Can also continuing the 4-4 NC you had but that's up to you. its pretty unnecessary imo
00:09:804 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Nice apparently you mapped it. The highest diff didn't and decided not to as because it would make sense higher diffs might have it feelsbadman. keeping xd
00:33:998 (1,2) - Could be substituted for a 1/2 repeat and a note. Keep it different from the other 1/2 that play from vocals as well and adds a bit of a change with the vocals. 00:34:320 - here got a stronger vocal so i want to make this clickable
No problems from me I liked this one kool

thx for mod

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-12T02:35:34+00:00

ok, updated and restructured top diff a bit. gonna find bns eventually.

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-09-12T02:47:25+00:00

Underforest wrote:
ok, updated and restructured top diff a bit. gonna find bns eventually.

[Rizen]

00:07:546 (4,5,1) - rhythm sounds kind of confusing here; i don't think you can simplify that stream like this, especially since the repeat slider sounds out of place. why not just follow the vocals instead?
SPOILER

[Advanced]

00:06:417 (3,4,1) - awkward rhythm here; every other pattern around this follow vocals so i feel this sounds out of place. something like this might be more appropriate
SPOILER
why the manual break end at 00:12:062 - ?
00:27:546 (1,2) - sliders are kind of close here; i get that they're 1.2x distance snap, but it looks visually different from other patterns like 00:24:966 (1,2) - and 00:30:127 (1,2) -
00:38:353 (2,3,4) - 00:40:933 (2,3,4) - Ctrl + G the rhythm here for better vocal emphasis like 00:35:772 (2,3,4) -
00:45:611 - to 00:50:611 - even though rhythm density is slightly lower than the rest of the map, i feel that you should also lower the SV a little bit to better reflect the decrease in intensity here. something like 0.9x or 0.8x should be ok
00:51:740 (4,1) - 00:53:030 (4,1) - just my opinion but i feel that stacking these has a snappier play to it, but this is fine too
01:00:127 (2,3,4) - think you should Ctrl + G the rhythm here too; 01:00:288 - and 01:00:611 - actually have more emphasis than their white ticks. same with 01:10:449 (2,3,4) -
01:16:579 (1,2) - should be a different pattern from 01:16:256 (4,5) - since it sounds way different. why not stack 01:16:579 (1,2) - like you did at the beginning with 00:00:450 (1,2) - ? they're the same drum sounds so i think it'd make sense to do so

[Irohas]

missing video
00:12:385 - guessing you changed the AR, cause the break ending is a bit messed up lol
00:16:579 (3,4) - i think it might be better to Ctrl + G the rhythm here; music is placing emphasis on 00:16:579 - and 00:16:740 -
00:36:256 (4,5) - i think stacking these would give better emphasis for 5->1. same with 00:41:417 (4,5) -
00:46:256 (3,1) - 00:47:546 (2,1) - 00:48:191 (2,1) - 00:48:837 (2,1) - etc. tbh i think it'd make more sense to start the NCs on each circle
01:12:385 (4,1,2,3) - doesn't really fit with the actual music. what sounds are this being mapped to? the focus is on the red ticks, not the white ticks

[Pata-Mon]

00:09:320 (1) - slider sounds out of place, cause the sound is being held for much longer than the slider length. if you want to stick with the slider, lengthening it to 00:10:127 - sounds a bit cleaner. otherwise use a spinner or just ignore the held vocals altogether
00:12:466 - fix manual break end
00:14:966 (2,3,1,2) - 00:17:546 (2,3,1,2) - 00:20:127 (2,3,1,2) - this is actually really cool, well done!
00:23:514 (4) - again i think slider needs to be longer; it feels too short as it currently is

[Corinn]

00:15:449 (4,5) - Ctrl + G rhythm here; music places emphasis on 00:15:449 - and 00:15:611 -
00:18:030 (4,5) - here too
00:20:611 (4,5) - 01:18:675 (4,5) - 01:21:256 (4,5) - 01:23:837 (4,5) - please stop with the wrong emphasis reeeee
00:27:224 (3) - 00:32:385 (3) - 00:34:966 (6) - i think it might be a better fit to make these 1/2 slider, actually. the instrument does this sort of droopy sound thing
01:05:449 (4) - remove the hitsound here; it sounds really out of place with the rest of the stream
00:55:772 - 01:16:579 - change the normal whistles to soft claps. the whistles sound way too out of place since those are actually all snares in the music lmfao

[LCFC]

missing video
00:09:320 (1) - slider feels too short; read the suggestion i mentioned in Pata-Mon's Insane
00:23:514 (1) - actually this is the start of a new phrase and isn't part of the same phrasing that 00:22:869 (1,1) - is a part of, so i think it'll be better to change this slider, maybe into a 1/1 slider with 5% volume at the slider end?
00:23:837 (1) - what is this mapped to? there's no sound there, so making this clickable doesn't make sense lol
00:53:998 (1,2) - i think increasing the spacing here to something in between 00:53:675 (1,2) - 00:54:320 (1,2) - makes the buildup feel more dynamic and helps with momentum build up, but this is fine too
00:59:966 (2,1,2,1,2) - 01:10:288 (2,1,2,1,2) - the music doesn't support 1-2 patterning structures here. the music places emphasis on the red ticks, but your patterning places emphasis on the white ticks so it doesn't sit right with me

[NiNo]

00:23:514 (1) - 5% volume for slider end? there's not really a sound there so it sounds out of place
00:44:320 (1,2,3,4,5) - honestly i think making this a perfect star pattern would not only look nicer, but fit the music better too since vocals all have equal emphasis
00:55:127 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - overmapped; music doesn't even have 1/4 density here
01:12:062 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - feels really cramped in comparison to the rest of the spacing of the kiai, don't really recommend spacing it so close cause it feels completely different to play despite no actual change in the music

[Kibb]

00:08:111 - 00:08:917 - stream is still going on.
00:09:320 (2) - feels a tad too short; read what i wrote in Pata-Mon's Insane
01:24:320 (1,2,1,2) - lol spacing. seriously though i think a small nerf to spacing would be more appropriate; doesn't need to be too crazy of a change from what it currently is, but as it is right now hoyl

[GAME START!]

00:02:385 (1,2) - the 1-2s are increasing in spacing for the intro, so why is this decreasing in spacing?
00:13:837 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - why the NC spam, too many colours orz
00:23:514 (1) - 5% on slider end?
00:26:256 (1,2,3) - 00:31:418 (1,2,3,4) - these are the same musically, so i think using similar rhythms would be more appropriate
00:31:740 (2,3) - could use more spacing to emphasize the synth sound on the white tick
00:43:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - tbh i think the buildup would work much more effectively if you increased spacing over time instead of having them all spaced out really far apart, since 00:43:675 (1,2,3,4) - is louder than 00:43:030 (1,2,3,4) - , and 00:44:320 (1,2,3,4,1) - is louder than both
00:44:320 (1,2,3,4,1) - perfect star please reeeeeee
00:46:579 (5) - split into two circles for consistency with the rest of the patterning
00:45:611 - to 00:48:191 - actually i think the pattern consistency would play nicer if it was two circles followed by a slider, like 00:48:191 (1,2,3) -
00:59:643 (1,2) - 01:09:966 (7,1) - i think it would be more appropriate to keep this as a 1/2 slider, maybe with the same shape as 00:58:353 (1) - 00:58:997 (4) - . 1/2 density feels too much here if you make it into two separate circles. also your comboing at 01:09:966 (7,1) - is off lol
01:04:159 (4,5,6,7) - 01:14:482 (4,5,6,7) - again, think it would be more appropriate as 1/2 sliders instead of circles. the song places a constant emphasis on the red ticks over the white ticks, and in this case the white ticks are de-emphasized compared to the red ticks
01:15:610 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this pattern could use some reworking, actually. for starters, the build up ends at 01:15:933 (4) - 01:16:095 (5,6,7) - feel off due to the high spacing despite being relatively calmer than the rest of the pattern
01:15:772 (3,2) - stack these lol

not bad, but some definite things to consider in Irohas' Hard, LCFC's Another, and GAME START!. get a few mods and call me back, i'll decide whether to push this forward then.

Last edited by Doormat 2017-09-12T09:29:52+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-12T02:49:00+00:00

Doormat wrote:
i'm late

hello late, nice to meet you

gonna wait anyway xd

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-12T05:14:13+00:00

fixed manual breaks and videos missing

also fixed advanced - all

Doormat wrote:
[GAME START!]
00:13:837 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - why the NC spam, too many colours orz i prefer to keep due to the 8-bit increasing its pitch, i was inspired by a similar pattern in https://osu.ppy.sh/s/572804's Hikari
00:43:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - tbh i think the buildup would work much more effectively if you increased spacing over time instead of having them all spaced out really far apart, since 00:43:675 (1,2,3,4) - is louder than 00:43:030 (1,2,3,4) - , and 00:44:320 (1,2,3,4,1) - is louder than both I replaced the pattern following ths technique
00:44:320 (1,2,3,4,1) - perfect star please reeeeeee I don't think it's priority to fix xd
01:04:159 (4,5,6,7) - 01:14:482 (4,5,6,7) - again, think it would be more appropriate as 1/2 sliders instead of circles. the song places a constant emphasis on the red ticks over the white ticks, and in this case the white ticks are de-emphasized compared to the red ticks i'm reforcing the rhythm here since the drums become stronger in this part and is more appropiate circles than sliders imho
01:15:610 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this pattern could use some reworking, actually. for starters, the build up ends at 01:15:933 (4) - 01:16:095 (5,6,7) - feel off due to the high spacing despite being relatively calmer than the rest of the pattern replaced following this suggestion

everything else was fixed as stated or something similar to stated

ok will get 3-4 mods for the mentioned diffs, including mine, so i can improve it a bit before callin' you back

Last edited by Underforest 2017-09-13T01:32:57+00:00, edited 7 times in total.

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-09-12T09:35:06+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[LCFC]
00:09:320 (1) - slider feels too short; read the suggestion i mentioned in Pata-Mon's Insane The slider actually isn't following the vocals; the cymbal/finish/whatever starts at its sliderhead and the 8-bit ish sound starts at its slider end.
00:23:514 (1) - actually this is the start of a new phrase and isn't part of the same phrasing that 00:22:869 (1,1) - is a part of, so i think it'll be better to change this slider, maybe into a 1/1 slider with 5% volume at the slider end? It is a new phrase yes, but they all support the same sounds (just with different pitch lol). The two 1/8 before also have that 8-bit ish sound, for the exact same length as this one does. I don't see any reason to hold it for longer.
00:23:837 (1) - what is this mapped to? there's sound there, so making this clickable doesn't make sense lol Alright I know there are no drums here but it felt really empty not mapping these 8-bit sounds (I mention these quite often, huh), thus I did so, with small spacing to indicate the calmness of the section. Honestly I don't have a problem removing them but it just felt empty to me xd
00:53:998 (1,2) - i think increasing the spacing here to something in between 00:53:675 (1,2) - 00:54:320 (1,2) - makes the buildup feel more dynamic and helps with momentum build up, but this is fine too I made quite a nice pattern in here so i'm kinda hesitant changing it, plus 00:53:675 (1,2,1,2) - 's voice pitch doesn't change while 00:54:320 (1,2) - does (I hope I'm not being too confusing lol)
00:59:966 (2,1,2,1,2) - 01:10:288 (2,1,2,1,2) - the music doesn't support 1-2 patterning structures here. the music places emphasis on the red ticks, but your patterning places emphasis on the white ticks so it doesn't sit right with me alright I'd rather stay consistent to the vocals as well so I changed them completely

Thank you Doormat! I understand your logic behind your suggestions, the map obviously wouldn't be negatively affected if I changed all of them but I believe they (the ones I rejected) won't improve the map. Nevertheless I am open to discussions if you insist on me changing a pattern. Personally I believe I fixed the most important issue lol

diff

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 55691
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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[Editor]
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Title:GAMERS!
TitleUnicode:GAMERS！
Artist:Kanemoto Hisako & Iwami Manaka & Ookubo Rumi
ArtistUnicode:金元寿子&石見舞菜香&大久保瑠美
Creator:Underforest
Version:LCFC's Another
Source:ゲーマーズ！
Tags:雨野景太と青春コンティニュー Amano Keita to Seishun Continue Geemaazu Pine Jam TV Size Opening Mafumafu まふまふ 天道花憐 星ノ守千秋 亜玖璃 Tendou Karen Hoshinomori Chiaki Aguri Shortthu Rizen [_Rizen_] a_q_p_w Irohas MugiwaraSekai Pata-Mon Akitoshi Corinn LowComboFC SnowNiNo_ Kibbleru
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Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-09-12T12:21:40+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[Pata-Mon]
00:09:320 (1) - slider sounds out of place, cause the sound is being held for much longer than the slider length. if you want to stick with the slider, lengthening it to 00:10:127 - sounds a bit cleaner. otherwise use a spinner or just ignore the held vocals altogether 00:09:643 - I can hear a drum sound really clearly here. In fact I follow both drum and vocal in this part, so I think ending at here is the best choice.
00:12:466 - fix manual break end I just remove this break
00:14:966 (2,3,1,2) - 00:17:546 (2,3,1,2) - 00:20:127 (2,3,1,2) - this is actually really cool, well done! xDDDD
00:23:514 (4) - again i think slider needs to be longer; it feels too short as it currently is I follow the bass sound here and the bass sound end at 00:23:675 - , so I think it's fine. And I use the same length at 00:22:869 (2,3,4) - because I follow the same sound at them.

Thanks!

@Underforest remove this break (00:09:804 - to 00:12:546 - ) for me plz, thanks!

Nelliel

874 posts

Joined September 2015

Nelliel 2017-09-12T22:31:20+00:00

Irohas

01:25:611 (1) - uhh here maybe you could make the slider end at red tick then put a circle here 01:25:933 (2) -
01:27:062 (1) - single kick?

Nino

00:22:062 (7) - maybe single beat into a 2 beat + slider burst
01:05:449 (4) - why not start the spacing of the stream here since the music since thats where you start hearing the change

Kibb

00:52:708 (1) - any reason why you start spacing this?

GAME START!

00:00:450 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why start spacing these when there's no change in music?
00:13:837 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - MY EYES ARE VERY HURT
01:05:772 (8) - uhh maybe copy this and ctrl+h and replace 01:05:933 (9) - with it
01:25:288 (9) - mentioned this in nino and again maybe replace with single beat into a burst

Get it ranked already so i can farm the fok out of it

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-13T02:10:09+00:00

WhozChaos wrote:
00:00:450 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why start spacing these when there's no change in music? but the guitar
00:13:837 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - MY EYES ARE VERY HURT sorry lol
01:05:772 (8) - uhh maybe copy this and ctrl+h and replace 01:05:933 (9) - with it fixed with something similar
01:25:288 (9) - mentioned this in nino and again maybe replace with single beat into a burst i think its fine, 8-bit music is on the bg

Get it ranked already so i can farm the fok out of it soon buddy, somehow it will be

I remapped some patterns too

Last edited by Underforest 2017-09-13T06:10:25+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-09-13T03:58:44+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[Corinn]
00:15:449 (4,5) - Ctrl + G rhythm here; music places emphasis on 00:15:449 - and 00:15:611 -
00:18:030 (4,5) - here too
00:20:611 (4,5) - 01:18:675 (4,5) - 01:21:256 (4,5) - 01:23:837 (4,5) - please stop with the wrong emphasis reeeee
00:27:224 (3) - 00:32:385 (3) - 00:34:966 (6) - i think it might be a better fit to make these 1/2 slider, actually. the instrument does this sort of droopy sound thing i prefer to put single circle for better intensity difference with 00:35:288 -
01:05:449 (4) - remove the hitsound here; it sounds really out of place with the rest of the stream
00:55:772 - 01:16:579 - change the normal whistles to soft claps. the whistles sound way too out of place since those are actually all snares in the music lmfao normal whistles somehow fits with the music D: also soft claps have some lack of showing energy as ad lib ;;

no reply = fixed ,thanks!

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pkhg

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Joined May 2010

pkhg 2017-09-14T02:19:25+00:00

i love ookubo rumi

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-14T02:56:01+00:00

pkhg wrote:
i love ookubo rumi

same

Rizen

1,662 posts

Joined August 2013

Rizen 2017-09-14T04:20:20+00:00

@doormat applied, thankss

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CPLs

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CPLs 2017-09-14T11:33:04+00:00

hi, m4m. no roasting allowed

ok

[irohard]
00:22:385 (1) shorter slider and a note fits well
00:46:256 (3,1) can be closer stack, intended? (I see the others are also like this) I'd make it closer instead
00:54:804 (1) repeat this

[lcfc]
is this wip, why no video (not important, ignore this)

00:09:320 (1) circle pls, no sound at slider end
00:17:062 (1) ; 01:20:288 (1) this shape looks so random due to being different with most other slides
00:33:837 (4,1) why overlap
00:54:966 (2) make it same like 2 and 3 aka 1/4 slides to be consistent
01:22:385 (3,4,5) the stack can be re-arranged closer, like http://puu.sh/xztQF/fdf00799a1.jpg

[the hardest diff]
can't play this so not a proper mod maybe
00:13:837 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) ...
00:23:998 (2,3,4) can be 1/4 repeat
00:33:998 (1,2,3,4) made further jump to increase difficulty (a bit)
00:55:288 (5) can be made 1/8 for some pre-kiai emphasize (is the terms correct idk)

I still can't get why kiai is divided into two parts

ok bye

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-09-14T11:38:43+00:00

CPLs wrote:
[lcfc]
is this wip, why no video (not important, ignore this)

00:09:320 (1) circle pls, no sound at slider end the 8bit sound thingy starts playing the moment the slider ends, I found it a cool addition
00:17:062 (1) ; 01:20:288 (1) this shape looks so random due to being different with most other slides I don't think so also I used it here 01:20:288 (1) -
00:33:837 (4,1) why overlap mind you telling me why not?
00:54:966 (2) make it same like 2 and 3 aka 1/4 slides to be consistent there are drums at 00:54:804 (1,3) - while not in 00:54:966 (2) - that's why they're emphasized differently
01:22:385 (3,4,5) the stack can be re-arranged closer, like http://puu.sh/xztQF/fdf00799a1.jpg I've used this stack consistently across the map, so no

Thank you for trying, I'm a picky one

CPLs

351 posts

Joined April 2012

CPLs 2017-09-14T11:41:08+00:00

...that was fast

~~I'm hurt~~ nah just a noob trying

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-09-14T11:43:20+00:00

CPLs wrote:
...that was fast

~~I'm hurt~~ nah just a noob trying

Blame desktop notifications B)
I apologize if I seemed to be rude in any way in my replies, your suggestions aren't *bad* or anything, but simply my own preferences of song representation overlap yours xd

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-15T04:31:55+00:00

CPLs wrote:
hi, m4m. no roasting allowed

[the hardest diff]
can't play this so not a proper mod maybe
00:13:837 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) ... explained in doormat's mod
00:23:998 (2,3,4) can be 1/4 repeat circles feel better for 8-bit
00:33:998 (1,2,3,4) made further jump to increase difficulty (a bit) not needed for a calm part like this
00:55:288 (5) can be made 1/8 for some pre-kiai emphasize (is the terms correct idk) this is not even 1/8

I still can't get why kiai is divided into two parts divided for emphasis in the music, there's a pause that I personally don't consider kiai at the end of the first kiai, so this makes sense

ok bye ciao thanks for the mod

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

_DT3 2017-09-15T21:18:01+00:00

As requested ^^
It's been a while since I modded tho, so I am pretty rusty lol
Also if I sound offending, I have no intent to and I apologize

[Irohas' Hard]

00:07:869 (1) - Suggestion but you could maybe lower volume here and increase with every repeat slider? It kinda overpowers the song right now imo.
00:20:127 (2,3) - 01:23:353 (2,3) - Might be for variety or something similar, but it seems weird that these are the only two 1/2 sliders overlapping in the both parts which unnecessarily emphasize the sounds there. I can tell that you use these pattern in the following part but it still is the only pattern like this in the more intense part. An explanation for that is enough though for me
00:29:482 (3,4,1) - Again just a suggestion but because it already kinda looks like one, you could move (1) to 336|144 to create a triangle
00:40:449 (1) - Really minor but if you move this to 181|17, then 00:40:288 (5) - has pretty much equal distance to the slider head and tail, which makes it look neater
00:45:611 (1,2) - No manual stack here? Sticks out imo
00:49:482 (1) - I think this is missing a whistle (I could be wrong though)
00:57:062 (1) - As it's a recurring thing, idk if you want to fix it really but you could make the hitcircle have similar distance to the slider head and tail to make it neater since it's so close to the center anyway
Neat owo

[LCFC's Another]

These aren't wubs u idiot
00:14:965 (3,4) - 00:15:933 (1,2) - 00:17:546 (3,4) - 00:18:514 (1,2) - 00:20:127 (3,4) - 00:21:094 (1,2) - I haven't really had time to listen closer these but I'm kinda confused as to why these all have different spacing between slider heads which impact gameplay quite a bit. Four of them are spaced quite far while the other 2 have small spacing between slider heads and since the 8-bit sounds sound like they have similar intensity I just would like to clarify this, would also be an explanation for the slider arrangements in the final part
00:23:837 (1,2,3,1) - I can tell that this should be curved, but it seems pretty flat imo, could you maybe make it more curvy just for making the curve more clear?
00:37:062 (3,4,5) - Yeah I get that this should be a curve too but it sticks out by how cramped this is imo, could just be a straight line imo or less curved like 00:42:224 (3,4,5) -
00:39:159 (1) - Ctrl+g on this slider feels more appropriate because it is the weakest jump to an NC in this part by quite a bit (at least when I checked lol) and even is it's supposed to be weaker, the distance still would be relatively small with the ctrl+g. Would look like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9097059
01:27:062 (1) - Should probably apply to all diffs, but could volume maybe be decreased here? Would emphasize the volume increase here 01:28:030 (1) - more and represents the removal of the background instruments
I loved the kiai tbh Why do you do this to me I can't farm with this wub mapping

[GAME START!]

00:33:998 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could look good if this were a perfect pentagon tbh, I can tell that 00:34:643 (5) - should have lower distance but that makes this pattern stand out as a whole (due to it being off of the perfect pentagon) and it doesn't really show in-game
Imo it generally looked clean but I can't really understand spacing increases like 01:07:224 (6) - which emphasize the next note less and by itself don't really get much more intense than the previous notes. Also it's so many jumps so I can't really judge those that good xd

GL!

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2017-09-15T21:50:05+00:00

As requested.

Irohas' Hard

00:13:998 (2) - I'm not sure about this, mainly because it can be difficult to read considering that it isn't common in the Hard diff, in addition you use too much sliders like 00:07:869 (1) - it can be confused, I suggest some like this
00:16:579 (3,4) - Ctrl+G? Follow the song better, considering the sound you are following, which is lost by not doing 00:16:901 (4) - clickable, and in 00:16:901 (4) - there is nothing very important.
00:29:320 (2,3) - You can do a Ctrl+G here, follow the vocals better, or you can make something like this.
00:49:482 (1) - Remove NC and add NC in 00:49:643 (2) - for consistency with another sliders.
00:54:804 (1) - You completely ignore the sound in 00:54:966 - xd
00:58:998 (1) - Why NC? xd Nothing important here.
01:09:320 (1) - Same as 00:58:998 (1) -
01:14:320 (2,3,4) - Ctrl+G?, follow the rhythm better.
01:17:224 (1) - Same as 00:13:998 (2) - additionally you can remove NC since a 1 combo in Hard is rare. xd
01:19:804 (3,4) - Same as 00:16:579 (3,4) -
01:27:062 (1) - Same as 00:13:998 (2) -

LCFC's Another

00:00:772 (3,3,3,3,3,3) - ?????? I swear I tried to find a reason for this sliders, and even for the vocals it doesn't make sense because the loudest vocal is in the end of the slider.
00:08:998 (1,1) - Why NC? xd
00:19:159 (3,4,5) - Looks bad tbh.
00:34:320 (1) - Why NC? xdd
00:49:482 (1,2,3) - Same sound, too different spacing, why?
Basically this but it applies in to many parts of the diff, I don't like how this diff is only copy&paste.

GAME START!

00:16:740 (6,1) - Se ve raro el stack de estos dos circles, principalmente por el NC, creo que sería mejor hacer algo como 00:20:288 (3,5) -
00:23:837 - ¿Por qué el 5% de volumen? xd no le encuentro sentido.
00:45:288 (1) - Podrías bajarle el volumen a 5% al final del slider xd
00:52:385 (2) - Que feo overlap tbh.
00:56:417 (4) - Totalmente overmapped xdd Aquí no hay nada y tiene mucho spacing, lo mismo para 01:01:579 (4) - y todos los demás
01:25:933 (3,1) - Con lo fuerte que es 01:26:095 (1) - pierde mucha intensidad por el stack.
01:28:030 (1,1) - Considerando todas las demás diffs y que además en tu Advanced esto es un slider, sería mejor dejarlo como slider en vez de spinner.+
Mmm... para serte sincero no me gusta la diff, la encuentro muy overmapped, no quise explayarme mucho porque la verdad esta diff es muy repetitiva, incluso el principio y el final son exactamente iguales, solo con un Ctrl+H de diferencia.

Fun song xd aunque no me gusta la diff de LCFC y la última diff la dvd.
GL~

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-16T00:43:29+00:00

_DT3 wrote:
As requested ^^
[GAME START!]
00:33:998 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could look good if this were a perfect pentagon tbh, I can tell that 00:34:643 (5) - should have lower distance but that makes this pattern stand out as a whole (due to it being off of the perfect pentagon) and it doesn't really show in-game ok I fixed the symmetry
Imo it generally looked clean but I can't really understand spacing increases like 01:07:224 (6) - which emphasize the next note less and by itself don't really get much more intense than the previous notes. Also it's so many jumps so I can't really judge those that good xd
GL!

Hazu- wrote:
As requested.
GAME START!
00:16:740 (6,1) - Se ve raro el stack de estos dos circles, principalmente por el NC, creo que sería mejor hacer algo como 00:20:288 (3,5) - Uso este stack para hacer énfasis con el 8-bit
00:23:837 - ¿Por qué el 5% de volumen? xd no le encuentro sentido. Doormat lo sugirió ya que no hay sonido 8-bit en esa parte
00:45:288 (1) - Podrías bajarle el volumen a 5% al final del slider xd ok
00:52:385 (2) - Que feo overlap tbh. http://puu.sh/xAKv1.jpg
00:56:417 (4) - Totalmente overmapped xdd Aquí no hay nada y tiene mucho spacing, lo mismo para 01:01:579 (4) - y todos los demás ok
01:25:933 (3,1) - Con lo fuerte que es 01:26:095 (1) - pierde mucha intensidad por el stack. tienes razon, hice una pequeña separación ahí mismo
01:28:030 (1,1) - Considerando todas las demás diffs y que además en tu Advanced esto es un slider, sería mejor dejarlo como slider en vez de spinner. un spinner es mas conveniente, teniendo en cuenta que es la diff mas "dificil" del mapset

Mmm... para serte sincero no me gusta la diff, la encuentro muy overmapped, no quise explayarme mucho porque la verdad esta diff es muy repetitiva, incluso el principio y el final son exactamente iguales, solo con un Ctrl+H de diferencia. en mi opinion, yo no considero mi propia diff overmapped pues hay algunas partes de la cancion que pueden ser consideras para jump, ademas, el "copypaste" es parte de mi estilo de mapping, cuando encuentro que una parte es extremadamente parecida a la otra, tampoco me gusta sobreusar eso. no entiendo que quieres decir con "repetitiva", patterns?
Fun song xd aunque no me gusta la diff de LCFC y la última diff la dvd.
GL~

thanks so much you two, very helpful

Cris-

Beatmap Nominator

551 posts

Joined March 2015

Cris- 2017-09-16T02:18:51+00:00

Hai c:

GAME START!

00:08:837 (5) - Podrias copiar este slider, voltearlo y reemplazarlo por 00:08:353 (2)
00:14:482 (1) - x:232 y:72? Para seguir mas circularmente el stream pienso yo xdd
00:24:320 (4) - Talvez un slider hasta 00:24:643 quedaria mejor aqui

No tengo mucho que decir en realidad, es muy buena esta diff...

Buena suerte~

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-16T02:24:35+00:00

Cris_1 wrote:
Hai c:

GAME START!
00:08:837 (5) - Podrias copiar este slider, voltearlo y reemplazarlo por 00:08:353 (2) ok
00:14:482 (1) - x:232 y:72? Para seguir mas circularmente el stream pienso yo xdd le cambie la posicion mejor xD
00:24:320 (4) - Talvez un slider hasta 00:24:643 quedaria mejor aqui da que pensar, solo veo que esta bien o.o
No tengo mucho que decir en realidad, es muy buena esta diff...
Buena suerte~

gracias

ok i think those are enough mods, gonna wait the replies from kibb, nino, lcfc and irohas before i call back doormat

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-09-16T04:10:34+00:00

_DT3 wrote:
[LCFC's Another]
These aren't wubs u idiot ure mum
00:14:965 (3,4) - 00:15:933 (1,2) - 00:17:546 (3,4) - 00:18:514 (1,2) - 00:20:127 (3,4) - 00:21:094 (1,2) - I haven't really had time to listen closer these but I'm kinda confused as to why these all have different spacing between slider heads which impact gameplay quite a bit. Four of them are spaced quite far while the other 2 have small spacing between slider heads and since the 8-bit sounds sound like they have similar intensity I just would like to clarify this, would also be an explanation for the slider arrangements in the final part Visually yes, but play-wise no.

Also yeah I know the last two pairs are more spaced but they are really easy to hit and they would be pretty cramped overwise (also it's a nice buildup)
00:23:837 (1,2,3,1) - I can tell that this should be curved, but it seems pretty flat imo, could you maybe make it more curvy just for making the curve more clear? that's a pretty damn minor suggestion, I really cba even "fixing" it cause it won't affect the map positively by a tiny bit
00:37:062 (3,4,5) - Yeah I get that this should be a curve too but it sticks out by how cramped this is imo, could just be a straight line imo or less curved like 00:42:224 (3,4,5) - uhm it's the exact copy of 00:42:224 (3,4,5) - LOL also I personally believe it's fine :^)
00:39:159 (1) - Ctrl+g on this slider feels more appropriate because it is the weakest jump to an NC in this part by quite a bit (at least when I checked lol) and even is it's supposed to be weaker, the distance still would be relatively small with the ctrl+g. Would look like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9097059 Good point
01:27:062 (1) - Should probably apply to all diffs, but could volume maybe be decreased here? Would emphasize the volume increase here 01:28:030 (1) - more and represents the removal of the background instruments calling hitsounder B)
I loved the kiai tbh Why do you do this to me I can't farm with this wub mapping ure mum

sankyuuu <3

Hazu- wrote:
LCFC's Another
00:00:772 (3,3,3,3,3,3) - ?????? I swear I tried to find a reason for this sliders, and even for the vocals it doesn't make sense because the loudest vocal is in the end of the slider. filler rhythm, and they land on vocals as well
00:08:998 (1,1) - Why NC? xd all 00:08:837 (1,1,1,1) - these have ncs because they change in sv
00:19:159 (3,4,5) - Looks bad tbh. Terrifyingly subjective.
00:34:320 (1) - Why NC? xdd I organized 00:33:998 (1,2,1,2) - into pairs to improve readability on this funky jump pattern lol
00:49:482 (1,2,3) - Same sound, too different spacing, why? 00:50:449 (3) - has a clap
Basically this but it applies in to many parts of the diff, I don't like how this diff is only copy&paste. it's only 10 seconds that are copy pasted.... where does the "only" go for??

thank you for your time.

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Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-09-16T09:08:42+00:00

Doormat wrote:
Underforest wrote:
ok, updated and restructured top diff a bit. gonna find bns eventually.
[Irohas]
missing video guess forest fixed it lol
00:12:385 - guessing you changed the AR, cause the break ending is a bit messed up
00:16:579 (3,4) - i think it might be better to Ctrl + G the rhythm here; music is placing emphasis on 00:16:579 - and 00:16:740 - really want to make the clap sound on 00:16:901 (4) - clickable, the clap above is a lot stronger than previous imo
00:36:256 (4,5) - i think stacking these would give better emphasis for 5->1. same with 00:41:417 (4,5) - okay did
00:46:256 (3,1) - 00:47:546 (2,1) - 00:48:191 (2,1) - 00:48:837 (2,1) - etc. tbh i think it'd make more sense to start the NCs on each circle
01:12:385 (4,1,2,3) - doesn't really fit with the actual music. what sounds are this being mapped to? the focus is on the red ticks, not the white ticks did hope its fine

Hazu- wrote:
As requested.
Irohas' Hard
00:13:998 (2) - I'm not sure about this, mainly because it can be difficult to read considering that it isn't common in the Hard diff, in addition you use too much sliders like 00:07:869 (1) - it can be confused, I suggest some like this ok did
00:16:579 (3,4) - Ctrl+G? Follow the song better, considering the sound you are following, which is lost by not doing 00:16:901 (4) - clickable, and in 00:16:901 (4) - there is nothing very important. same on doormat's mod
00:29:320 (2,3) - You can do a Ctrl+G here, follow the vocals better, or you can make something like this. im not following vocals here
00:49:482 (1) - Remove NC and add NC in 00:49:643 (2) - for consistency with another sliders. fixed in previous mod
00:54:804 (1) - You completely ignore the sound in 00:54:966 - xd lol not as important imo
00:58:998 (1) - Why NC? xd Nothing important here. vocals emphasize
01:09:320 (1) - Same as 00:58:998 (1) - same
01:14:320 (2,3,4) - Ctrl+G?, follow the rhythm better. okkk
01:17:224 (1) - Same as 00:13:998 (2) - additionally you can remove NC since a 1 combo in Hard is rare. xd ok
01:19:804 (3,4) - Same as 00:16:579 (3,4) - same
01:27:062 (1) - Same as 00:13:998 (2) - did

_DT3 wrote:
As requested ^^
It's been a while since I modded tho, so I am pretty rusty lol
Also if I sound offending, I have no intent to and I apologize

[Irohas' Hard]
00:07:869 (1) - Suggestion but you could maybe lower volume here and increase with every repeat slider? It kinda overpowers the song right now imo. okay did
00:20:127 (2,3) - 01:23:353 (2,3) - Might be for variety or something similar, but it seems weird that these are the only two 1/2 sliders overlapping in the both parts which unnecessarily emphasize the sounds there. I can tell that you use these pattern in the following part but it still is the only pattern like this in the more intense part. An explanation for that is enough though for me mmh i guess the flow on 00:20:127 (2,3,4,5) - plays well and fits the music perfectly? xd plus theres not really emphasis here
00:29:482 (3,4,1) - Again just a suggestion but because it already kinda looks like one, you could move (1) to 336|144 to create a triangle its not really what i want to make tbh
00:40:449 (1) - Really minor but if you move this to 181|17, then 00:40:288 (5) - has pretty much equal distance to the slider head and tail, which makes it look neater i avoided the overlap with (1)'s tail instead
00:45:611 (1,2) - No manual stack here? Sticks out imo ya totally intended
00:49:482 (1) - I think this is missing a whistle (I could be wrong though) nice catch
00:57:062 (1) - As it's a recurring thing, idk if you want to fix it really but you could make the hitcircle have similar distance to the slider head and tail to make it neater since it's so close to the center anyway mmh not really lol
Neat owo uwu
GL!

thx for mods

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SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-09-16T11:03:21+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[NiNo]
00:23:514 (1) - 5% volume for slider end? there's not really a sound there so it sounds out of place
00:44:320 (1,2,3,4,5) - honestly i think making this a perfect star pattern would not only look nicer, but fit the music better too since vocals all have equal emphasis
00:55:127 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - overmapped; music doesn't even have 1/4 density here the stream is expressing the electronic sound
01:12:062 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - feels really cramped in comparison to the rest of the spacing of the kiai, don't really recommend spacing it so close cause it feels completely different to play despite no actual change in the music well its pretty clear that the music got less intense here thats why i used lower spacing and different structure, probably delete the objects so u can heard it more clear

WhozChaos wrote:
Nino
00:22:062 (7) - maybe single beat into a 2 beat + slider burst nah im express the drum
01:05:449 (4) - why not start the spacing of the stream here since the music since thats where you start hearing the change cuz 01:05:611 - here is more obvious then previous music

thx
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Title:GAMERS!
TitleUnicode:GAMERS！
Artist:Kanemoto Hisako & Iwami Manaka & Ookubo Rumi
ArtistUnicode:金元寿子&石見舞菜香&大久保瑠美
Creator:Underforest
Version:NiNo's Extra
Source:ゲーマーズ！
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Doormat

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Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-09-18T17:04:28+00:00

that's probably enough mods, i'll try and recheck this tonight.

Underforest

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Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-18T20:12:30+00:00

yeah, i supposed

ok then~

Shortthu

501 posts

Joined February 2016

Shortthu 2017-09-19T05:04:28+00:00

@forest 00:01:095 (2) - 00:03:030 (1) - idk what happened since the last update in my diff but please fix lol

Underforest

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Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-19T12:47:41+00:00

ok

Irohas

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Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-09-19T18:10:58+00:00

aaaa @underforest pls add a break on 00:09:482 - totally forgot

Underforest

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Underforest 2017-09-19T20:30:42+00:00

ok ok

Doormat

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Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-09-20T03:09:23+00:00

hi here to do a check up

[Shortthu]

00:53:191 (3) - NC this lol

[Advanced]

00:27:546 (1,2) - you didn't really fix this lol; notice how the spacing between the slider borders is really close to each other, unlike 00:24:966 (1,2) - ? maybe try spacing it out like this:
SPOILER

[Irohas]

no video

[Corinn]

Akitoshi wrote:
00:55:772 - 01:16:579 - change the normal whistles to soft claps. the whistles sound way too out of place since those are actually all snares in the music lmfao normal whistles somehow fits with the music D: also soft claps have some lack of showing energy as ad lib ;;

normally i would agree that normal whistles are nice to have, but you're spamming them at every offbeat interval. when used in moderation normal whistles can sound great, but when used a ridiculous amount of times like this, they end up sounding really out of place due to how obnoxiously loud they are. i still believe switching these to a soft-addition clap is a better solution since it sounds less out of place and more importantly, less obnoxious

[LCFC]

no video

LowComboFC wrote:
00:23:837 (1) - what is this mapped to? there's sound there, so making this clickable doesn't make sense lol Alright I know there are no drums here but it felt really empty not mapping these 8-bit sounds (I mention these quite often, huh), thus I did so, with small spacing to indicate the calmness of the section. Honestly I don't have a problem removing them but it just felt empty to me xd

yes, i agree that there are chiptune sounds there, but they don't start until 00:23:998 (2) - , meaning that the circle on 00:23:837 (1) - doesn't have any sound in the music to support it

[NiNo]

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

00:55:127 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - overmapped; music doesn't even have 1/4 density here the stream is expressing the electronic sound okay sure, the stream is expressing the electronic sound, but the electronic sound is so vague that saying that it best fits a 1/4 stream is stretching it, especially since nobody else mapped to a stream here. the music straight up doesn't support a stream here

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
01:12:062 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - feels really cramped in comparison to the rest of the spacing of the kiai, don't really recommend spacing it so close cause it feels completely different to play despite no actual change in the music well its pretty clear that the music got less intense here thats why i used lower spacing and different structure, probably delete the objects so u can heard it more cleareven if the music does decrease in intensity, the drop in intensity is still waaaay too apparent, because it feels like you mapped this part of the chorus completely differently as if it wasn't the same song. even if we compare it to 01:01:417 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3) - which is very similar in musical intensity and composition, your mapping feels too drastically different

[Kibb]

i have yet to see a response from you lol so i'm just going to copy what i wrote before

Doormat wrote:
00:08:111 - 00:08:917 - stream is still going on.
00:09:320 (2) - feels a tad too short; read what i wrote in Pata-Mon's Insane
01:24:320 (1,2,1,2) - lol spacing. seriously though i think a small nerf to spacing would be more appropriate; doesn't need to be too crazy of a change from what it currently is, but as it is right now hoyl

[GAME START!]

holy what happened it dropped .2 stars
00:23:998 (2,3,4) - actually try Ctrl + G-ing this, dropping down instead of moving up feels more comfortable after moving from 1->2
00:59:482 (6,1) - 01:09:804 (6,1) - the stacks here kind of breaks your momentum :/
01:04:159 (4,5,6,7) - 01:14:482 (4,5,6,7) - kind of feels like too many circles, maybe try to 1/2 sliders instead? more-so the first timestamp i linked, second one sort of fits but wouldn't hurt to change either way

not satisfied with some of the reasoning, but everything else looks okay. poke me when everyone replies

Underforest

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Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-20T03:33:14+00:00

Doormat wrote:
hi here to do a check up

[Shortthu]
00:53:191 (3) - NC this lol fixed for him, too minor lol
[Advanced]
00:27:546 (1,2) - you didn't really fix this lol; notice how the spacing between the slider borders is really close to each other, unlike 00:24:966 (1,2) - ? maybe try spacing it out like this: ok
SPOILER
[Irohas]
no video again? xD fixed
[LCFC]
no video ^
[GAME START!]
holy what happened it dropped .2 stars reduced some jumps and poof, noticed i overmapped some things out ;_;
00:23:998 (2,3,4) - actually try Ctrl + G-ing this, dropping down instead of moving up feels more comfortable after moving from 1->2 done
00:59:482 (6,1) - 01:09:804 (6,1) - the stacks here kind of breaks your momentum :/ unstacked I guess
01:04:159 (4,5,6,7) - 01:14:482 (4,5,6,7) - kind of feels like too many circles, maybe try to 1/2 sliders instead? more-so the first timestamp i linked, second one sort of fits but wouldn't hurt to change either way fixed with some arranges in patterns
not satisfied with some of the reasoning, but everything else looks okay. poke me when everyone replies

Last edited by Underforest 2017-09-22T06:01:52+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

lcfc

813 posts

Joined October 2015

lcfc 2017-09-20T10:19:09+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[LCFC]
LowComboFC wrote:
00:23:837 (1) - what is this mapped to? there's sound there, so making this clickable doesn't make sense lol Alright I know there are no drums here but it felt really empty not mapping these 8-bit sounds (I mention these quite often, huh), thus I did so, with small spacing to indicate the calmness of the section. Honestly I don't have a problem removing them but it just felt empty to me xd
yes, i agree that there are chiptune sounds there, but they don't start until 00:23:998 (2) - , meaning that the circle on 00:23:837 (1) - doesn't have any sound in the music to support it

circle removed

diff

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Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-09-20T17:45:10+00:00

used soft whistle then, soft-addition clap sounds still giving me a doubt if it's really ok for personal taste, ofc

osu file format v14

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Title:GAMERS!
TitleUnicode:GAMERS！
Artist:Kanemoto Hisako & Iwami Manaka & Ookubo Rumi
ArtistUnicode:金元寿子&石見舞菜香&大久保瑠美
Creator:Underforest
Version:Corinn's Insane
Source:ゲーマーズ！
Tags:雨野景太と青春コンティニュー Amano Keita to Seishun Continue Geemaazu Pine Jam TV Size Opening Mafumafu まふまふ 天道花憐 星ノ守千秋 亜玖璃 Tendou Karen Hoshinomori Chiaki Aguri Shortthu Rizen [_Rizen_] a_q_p_w Irohas MugiwaraSekai Pata-Mon Akitoshi Corinn LowComboFC SnowNiNo_ Kibbleru
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Shortthu

501 posts

Joined February 2016

Shortthu 2017-09-21T05:18:35+00:00

small update, fixed some blanket, some straight flow, also changed the shape of 01:04:804 (3) -

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Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Topic Starter

Underforest 2017-09-22T06:06:57+00:00

updated you three

also renamed top diff to "Press RESET!" as it references the kiai lyrics which is the following (translated):

SPOILER

and a scene in the start of the video which Amano presses that button

just gonna wait for nino and kibb

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-09-22T07:50:23+00:00

00:08:111 - wana start stream wen the jittery music thing starts
00:08:917 - better emphasis for 00:08:998 - and blanket
00:09:643 - listen to the thing here, there is kinda of a guitar ending sound

other fix

SPOILER

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SnowNiNo_

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SnowNiNo_ 2017-09-22T12:43:36+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[NiNo]
SnowNiNo_ wrote:
00:55:127 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - overmapped; music doesn't even have 1/4 density here the stream is expressing the electronic sound

okay sure, the stream is expressing the electronic sound, but the electronic sound is so vague that saying that it best fits a 1/4 stream is stretching it, especially since nobody else mapped to a stream here. the music straight up doesn't support a stream here
well nobody map stream doenst mean stream wont fit tho, is just a different mapping choice, and u said the sound is vague to used stream, but for me it isnt, since as u can heard there is only the electronic sound at 00:55:369 - to 00:55:611 - and a drum sound at 00:55:288 - , so the strean still make sense to me

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
01:12:062 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - feels really cramped in comparison to the rest of the spacing of the kiai, don't really recommend spacing it so close cause it feels completely different to play despite no actual change in the music well its pretty clear that the music got less intense here thats why i used lower spacing and different structure, probably delete the objects so u can heard it more clear

even if the music does decrease in intensity, the drop in intensity is still waaaay too apparent, because it feels like you mapped this part of the chorus completely differently as if it wasn't the same song. even if we compare it to 01:01:417 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3) - which is very similar in musical intensity and composition i wont agree with this, imo the musical intensity 01:00:933 - and 01:11:256 - is different, is clear if u only heard the drum sound, the first part there are snare sound at red tick and drum sound at white, but the second there isnt rly a sound at red tick, (i think is a hithat sound? , your mapping feels too drastically different
yes, it is rly apparent, cuz this is purpose, to let player know im express different music with different structurethx :>

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