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-PC

Joined July 2013

-PC 2017-09-03T09:36:24+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[-PC's hexagon :]
First, I agree with Natsu about stuff like 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - / 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - / etc who don't provide a correct feedback of what the song offer. Ignoring these strong sounds for background one is confusing and sounds a bit off, and make your diff more flat since you're using too often these kind of structure. I expressed my thoughts on these in detail in my response to Natsu's mod. I don't want to follow your higher spacing == intensity rules and personally feel the LOW spacing is what matches the intensity on this part. It throws the players off, which is the point. That's what makes it interesting to play. And at the same time, it fits the intensity with its bizarrely low spaced linear stream, followed by a bigger square stream.

As for the etc bit: unless you specifically note what you mean here, I can't change anything.
Second, on kiai I don't see the point of doing jump streams on 1st half if you just don't on the 2nd half. I would rather do all of them without and just play with spacing like you did from 01:31:402 - . There's no major differences to make a such change. I've explained this in detail at Manu028's mod. Not going to do this differently.

Thanks for the mod!

.osu (fixed hitsounds at 00:18:299 (1,2,3,4) - )

Sebu

95 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Sebu 2017-09-04T15:18:55+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[General :]
00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point.okay
[digon :]
00:23:816 (3) - NC is not necessary if you want to keep like how you did them before.
removed NC
[trigon :]
00:57:609 (2,3) - I would avoid the stack to make sure arrow is readable. Right now it's too hidden behind the circle.
moved a bit so that the arrow isnt hidden
01:04:333 (2,3,4) - Use simple stack pls, that's not an Insane and could be a bit disturbing.
fixed
01:07:781 (1,1) - Spacing is too low and don't give the good visual rhythm from it. Also once again, reverse arrow is not much visible with 01:08:385 (6,7) - .
Made a change that should be acceptable
01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of pattern is a big no. Clearly a pattern you would see more on an Insane or above, but the reading is not the best and playability too edgy for that diff. Also nothing on the song call for 01:31:402 (1,2) - being stacked. Simple stack or small burst like https://puu.sh/xpYvO/44cc236e40.png would definitly be better.
I would disagree that the song doesnt call for it as the first two sounds are higher(and the same) pitch, but then again I guess this kind of thing might be a bit too much for a hard diff.. even tho I'd really like to keep it.
[tetragon :]
00:57:781 (3,4,5) - Unstack them, the 1st of them is really hard to catch correctly due to it and lead to a easy unwanted break. Just space them a bit is enough.
ok
00:35:540 (2) - / 01:08:471 (7) - / 01:18:988 (1,2) - / 01:52:954 (3) - and more if I forgot some -> Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
I get your point but on 01:18:988 (1,2) - I'll only make the second one have a 1/4 gap as the distance between the first and the second is basically nothing. Having it repeat fully shouldnt be a gameplay issue at all.
[heptagon :]
00:01:919 (1,2,3) - I would stack them to create a similar effect like 00:02:436 (1,2,3) - who share the same kind of sound, also represent more the rhythm you used here -> https://puu.sh/xq0Nk/a3f88d0ea3.png .
First off, I'd say those two triples dont share similar sound at all. the first has one distinct sound with for each hit, kind of a high pitch tap(idk),
while the other is nothing like it at all, so spacing them out would make more sense to me. also the pattern as a whole kind of foreshadows these: 00:52:436 (2,1,2,1) - 00:56:574 (5,1,2,3) - . Even so I think I'm gonna change to your suggestion just cause it plays a lot better and doesnt catch the player off guard as much as the inital pattern does.
00:05:195 (1,2,1,2) - If I believe what you answered to Natsu, then why spacing is different from stuff like 00:10:712 (1,2,3,4) - who share exactly the same rhythm and music ? They should yes.
If you take into account how you actually play those patterns, they don't play much differently at all. very minor movement with a jump to the last note.
00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - Natsu means the curve could be a bit better, the angle you did with 00:32:436 (3,4) - is a bit broken and could be more smooth.
clarified in pm. changed it a tiny bit
01:31:057 (1,2,3) - Imo that's a bit overkill for a 1/4. The back and forth create a non intuitive pattern to follow unlike stuff like 01:42:092 (1,2,3) - .
I feel like a back and forth movement really fits the music here, but I changed up the pattern a bit so that the spacing isn't as crazy. generally the first 2 notes in a 1/4 jump like this is much easier to hit than the 3rd, so I feel like this should be a decent compromise
Mukyu~

Last edited by Sebu 2017-09-04T18:44:11+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

-GN

Champion Above Champions

734 posts

Joined June 2011

-GN 2017-09-04T17:10:48+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
sebu sucks
[-GN's pentagon :]
00:43:471 (3,4,5) - I would expect them straight after the slider and not a bit on the side of it to make like between 00:42:954 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/xpZmV/9fa948f7ee.png .
i aligned the triple properly here, but this really doesn't matter for playability so i'm keeping the shape. the two sliders are connected linearly because they're mapped to the same kind of sound
00:46:403 (3,4) - Could they have the same shape than 00:45:884 (1,2) - ? Would be more clean visually https://puu.sh/xpZp4/057a191eda.png .
i suppose
01:03:816 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Why spacing between both is so different ? 01:03:816 (1,2,3) - and 01:04:505 (3,4,5) - sounds the same but are done differently and make it weird. Would rather use a coherent one who respect same song part or a consistent spacing for both.
i don't think it sounds the same at all, also it's referencing the buildup. same pattern is found here 00:58:299 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5)
01:18:988 (1,2,3) - / 01:52:954 (2) - Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
this actually sounds ridiculous to me, but i'll do it in accordance with the old hexagon diff
sebu sucks

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hanks
for
mod!

.osu

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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2017-09-05T21:00:12+00:00

Trigon : 00:57:781 (3) - still not visible enough, also it's weird to stack this 1/2 after you did a huge spacing for the same gap for 00:57:436 (1,2) - .
Also try to see with Natsu is everything is clean before next step.

Sebu

95 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Sebu 2017-09-06T13:39:27+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Trigon : 00:57:781 (3) - still not visible enough, also it's weird to stack this 1/2 after you did a huge spacing for the same gap for 00:57:436 (1,2) - .

fixed this

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-09-12T01:33:54+00:00

-PC wrote:
Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action I get that you mean this is the start of a new beat, but that doesn't mean it needs to be clickable. Note how the sliderhead of 00:23:643 (3) - is a kick in the song? the slidertail is not. I feel the kick weighs way more than the definition of a starting beat, and in this case, I see zero issue not mapping a click to the sliderend. This pattern also flows really nicely into the next one imo. I really can't agree with your reasoning here, the end of the slider is basically the start of the melody of 00:23:988 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -, by not giving a click action to that beat you are really killing the song rhythm

-PC

00:04:161 (3,4,5,6) - the 4 beats stream sounds bad, since the music is suggesting you to bring click actions to only two of them 00:04:161 (3,5) - , check the top diff and listen how better the two 1/4 sliders sounds compared to your stream and tbh it's weird that you mapped a similar rhythm in a more properly way at 00:06:919 (3,4) - and we aren't talking about spacing, but rhythm

I'm fine with the rest of things

-PC

135 posts

Joined July 2013

-PC 2017-09-12T13:37:42+00:00

Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action I get that you mean this is the start of a new beat, but that doesn't mean it needs to be clickable. Note how the sliderhead of 00:23:643 (3) - is a kick in the song? the slidertail is not. I feel the kick weighs way more than the definition of a starting beat, and in this case, I see zero issue not mapping a click to the sliderend. This pattern also flows really nicely into the next one imo. I really can't agree with your reasoning here, the end of the slider is basically the start of the melody of 00:23:988 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -, by not giving a click action to that beat you are really killing the song rhythm Alright, I see what you mean and it makes sense, but it honestly kills the charm of this part changing this, especially if I need to make 00:23:643 (3) - a 1/4 slider. Closest I could get to mapping this beat without having two identical sliders for completely different sounds was to map 00:23:643 (3) - as a 3/8 slider with a circle on the new beat. It plays well and should be fine.

-PC

00:04:161 (3,4,5,6) - the 4 beats stream sounds bad, since the music is suggesting you to bring click actions to only two of them 00:04:161 (3,5) - , check the top diff and listen how better the two 1/4 sliders sounds compared to your stream and tbh it's weird that you mapped a similar rhythm in a more properly way at 00:06:919 (3,4) - and we aren't talking about spacing, but rhythm Yeah, these are inconsistent with the rest. Changed to sliders. Although I disagree the previous stream sounds bad, since it's mapped to the background arpeggio. (Also what's with comparing diffs? I checked top diff and 00:04:074 (3) - isn't mapped to any sound in the part you linked. 00:09:592 (3) - nor is this one sebu....)

Thanks!

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Nozhomi 2017-09-12T15:51:59+00:00

Okay since Natsu is k with that, let's go~

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-09-12T22:04:26+00:00

congrats!

CXu

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CXu 2017-09-12T22:05:15+00:00

Actually why is this even in WIP and not pending xd

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-13T01:04:45+00:00

Kaifin wrote:
congrats!

thanks!

-Tochi

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-Tochi 2017-09-13T17:47:38+00:00

nice, gratz!

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-09-13T22:56:05+00:00

01:05:884 (4) - unsnapped tail (trigon)

call nozhomi for rebub and then call me for qualify

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-14T03:44:41+00:00

Natsu wrote:
01:05:884 (4) - unsnapped tail (trigon)

call nozhomi for rebub and then call me for qualify

well, thats kinda gay rip, will call u guys asap

Arutsuki

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Arutsuki 2017-09-14T08:58:35+00:00

Isn't a monogon just a straight line...
Also grats

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Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-09-14T10:11:22+00:00

In geometry a monogon is a polygon with one edge and one vertex. It has Schläfli symbol. Since a monogon has only one side and only one vertex, every monogon is regular by definition.

Back~

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Enon 2017-09-14T23:48:11+00:00

btw Your title and name color are nice, Natsu Nozhomi!

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Natsu 2017-09-15T12:34:11+00:00

Enon wrote:
btw Your title and name color are nice, Natsu Nozhomi!

thanks

jeanbernard8865

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jeanbernard8865 2017-09-15T12:38:49+00:00

Arutsuki wrote:
Isn't a monogon just a straight line...

I request royalties on this

anyway congrats on qual

CXu

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CXu 2017-09-15T16:00:45+00:00

Congrats!

Asphyxia

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Asphyxia 2017-09-15T18:11:19+00:00

Grats!!!

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-09-16T09:05:22+00:00

Finally, conGeeZ sebu D:

Avena

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Avena 2017-09-16T14:35:22+00:00

interesting map
but nc use is just like, ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-09-18T07:48:20+00:00

im not sure why unicode artist is 日本原声带, which is not even related to Sota Fujimori

http://www.konamistyle.jp/sp/jubeat_copious/index.html

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IamKwaN 2017-09-18T14:13:15+00:00

disqualify to fix unicode artist

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-18T14:17:12+00:00

report _vu69 for giving me mp3 that autofilled unicode artist 1.5 years ago

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IamKwaN 2017-09-18T14:19:03+00:00

ok back

Len

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Len 2017-09-18T20:08:57+00:00

the highest diff is masterpiece. really well done i love it

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-20T10:27:16+00:00

thanks everyone

-GN

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-GN 2017-09-22T19:32:31+00:00

yeeaaa i refcd

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Rieri 2017-09-24T03:12:21+00:00

didnt really check the mods from before to see if this was already denied but

00:52:092 (1) - i can hear a distinct sound on 00:52:178 - but im not sure why you decided not to map it.

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Sebu 2017-09-24T17:08:20+00:00

ProEzreal wrote:
didnt really check the mods from before to see if this was already denied but

00:52:092 (1) - i can hear a distinct sound on 00:52:178 - but im not sure why you decided not to map it.

The sound(or similar sounds) is often on yellow ticks(1/8ths) and switches between this, blues, reds and whites. so instead of just focusing on mapping each clickable object to it, it's more in the movement of sliders that represents the rhythm. example: 00:51:186 - 00:48:428 - . as you can see both of these have basically non-existent movement, while the one u pointed out 00:52:178 - has a lot higher pitch, hence the increased sv.

I mapped the section in a consistent way to make it easier to play while still trying to represent the variety in the song appropriately

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Chewin 2017-09-29T18:03:09+00:00

This is amazing

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-GN 2017-09-29T23:29:08+00:00

thanks